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Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuit - The new defendants

Posted Feb 6, 2011 at 6:35PM EST by Glenn M.

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1. Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuit
2. The new defendants

The latest haul of leaked court documents indicate a few more prominent names in the PS3 hacking scene. Among them are KaKaRoTo, Graf_Chokolo, Hermes, Kmeaw, and Waninkoko, who recently released his PS3 CFW 3.55 v2. The document requests "all information and documents related to the use of your service(s) to register, create, maintain and/or use accounts associated with the user name."

 

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Recently, Sony also turned their attention to the hackers' Github page, where they are able to share their PS3 codes online. Notices and information have since been taken down and Github has been subpoenaed.

 

Previously, Sony had been able to secure a temporary restraining order against Geohot and all those mentioned in the case. Once they are able to pin the others down, they will also be served with the same papers.

 

 

 

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+3 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitGlenn M. 2011-02-06 20:06
sony might not be able to stop the spread of the hack now, but they're really sending a message out to the hackers

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+2 # yepxavis75211 2011-02-06 23:36
with all this, they have dug a grave. people will emerge and hack the shit out of their systems.

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# RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitSnaku 2011-02-08 01:04
I get what Sony is trying to do. They've been trying to draw a line in the sand: you will not hack us anymore. Well the hackers crossed their line and I guess now we'll see if Sony is able to hold it. Personally, I think that hackers are a crazy determined bunch and no amount of threats will actually stop them.

I've always wondered, though, what these prominent hackers were thinking when they use their real names and stuff. I mean, even if you only go by pseudonyms and you use proxies for everything, you can be tracked down... but why make it easier for them by using real personally identifying information?

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# well.joemontana03 2011-02-20 12:19
it's all about fame and glory. some people take it too seriously, as it fulfills the human need of being recognized. it's that or some people are actually stupid enough to believe the system will let them go easily.

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+1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitPhane 2011-02-06 20:54
Consumer rights FAIL.

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+1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitWow... 2011-02-06 20:55
Sonys just gone sue happy its gotten to the point where you install a unofficial app on your ps3 (Msn messenger) they are gonna send you papers to see you in court.

Sony needs to grow up whats done is done this just means the next gen has to come that much faster for them.

Geohot needs to win so shit like this doesn't continue cause all they are doing now is harassing people with lawsuits thats why i am hoping geohot wins just to end this shit.

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-2 # RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitokays... 2011-02-07 01:39
So if someone breaks into your house and steal all your stuff, you should just grow up and get over it? Also, I hope this geohot dude doesn't win. He's nothing but a showboat, and an arrogant fool.

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-1 # RE: RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuittrigger_ftu 2011-02-07 11:02
Quoting okays...:
So if someone breaks into your house and steal all your stuff, you should just grow up and get over it? Also, I hope this geohot dude doesn't win. He's nothing but a showboat, and an arrogant fool.


ok so your admitting that you do not own any of the game systems you have paied for. that in fact. sony owns anything in your home withthe name sony on it. microsoft owns anything in your house with the name microsoft (this includes the computer you use to respond so arrogantly with) as well as nintendo owning anything in your house with the name nintendo on it. i say screw that. i paid my money for my systems they may have the name Sony, Nintendo,and Microsoft on em but it doesn't five them the right to do as they wish to something i own. if i want Linux running on my ps3 heck I'll do just that. i already have cfw on my psp's. my xbox isn't modded. but one day it might. my Nintendo wii and ds is modded software and hard modded and i rather enjoy sitting on me butt playing my games off a usb hard drive w/o the need to go through my disc collections and find the games to play. i rather enjoy being able to install firefox on my wii from a linux OS and surf the web. why because like i said i paid for the systems i can do as i wish.

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-1 # RE: RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitdailyqjnetreader 2011-02-08 01:34
Actually, it's more like a person (or a few people) broke into your house using some spare key that was locked in the depths of the wilderness and robbed nothing (Actually, your sense of security), yet his buddies came along and robbbed a few things, then others did more, and others did more, and eventually many of them did more.
Once a person (or a few) finds and opens the key, the others will come and try to get the rest of the technological goods, while the founders would be persecuted. I think I might be thinking too deep on this, though.

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+1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitJohn 2011-02-06 21:31
It's the 1st time that a company took such measures against piracy.. Wow..!!
The money they've invested (and will invest), could be used on working on the PS5, not only on the PS4.. :P

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# RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitTechni 2011-02-07 06:21
Quote:
It's the 1st time that a company took such measures against piracy


Is that a joke? Companies have sued for years.

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-1 # RE: RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitJohn 2011-02-07 07:09
Have you seen M$ or Nintendo ever being after so many hackers? I know the answer for you, no.

Since the 360 has been flashed, micro$ofts move was to ban consoles, the were not after the Xtreme/iXtreme firmware devs. Nintendo does (almost) the same, brings new system updates that block the HBC etc. They weren't after Waninkoko, Hermes Team Twizzers and the rest of the people in the wii hacking scene.

Yeah, they have been suing 'em for years..

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# fearjoemontana03 2011-02-20 12:23
it's fear factory. scare them off and the next wont try the same -- or something like that.
just for the record, ninty did take action against an aussie guy that leaked the first NSMB.

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+3 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitAramisathei 2011-02-06 21:58
Is Sony gonna start suing gamers for using third party accessories too? Or how about QJ for using the word "hacking" in reference to a PS3? (and how come the PSP never got so much love? Can't we get a PS3 Go?)

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-1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitHangmanSwingset 2011-02-06 22:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc

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# RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitHangmanSwingset 2011-02-06 22:48
That really is how Sueny is acting.

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-1 # wow they suckxavis75211 2011-02-06 23:31
what a baby, crying to the law about this, so much for them being "big"

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# RE: wow they suckJohn 2011-02-07 05:43
They are big. Actually, they are so big, that they can go after all the hackers of the ps3 scene.
If you are able to do that, you HAVE to be big.

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-1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitGreg johnny 2011-02-06 23:45
In my personal belief, Sony has a made mistake to removed the Other OS install. so Sony couldn't stop spared ps3 hack and there will ALWAYS be hacks, mods, jailbreaking etc....ALWAYS....THERE. IS. NO. WAY. TO. STOP. IT.

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-1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitzt05 2011-02-07 00:33
if they keep this attitude next console generation might bring a different story... i'd like to see apple making a videogame run agains ps4

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-2 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitGo Sony 2011-02-07 02:43
Wooooo, sue them all. The less cfw users we see on psn and on online games the better.

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-1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitusjbroly 2011-02-07 02:52
Soldier from TF2 ;-)

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# RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitmothermonster 2011-02-07 03:52
I've always boycotted Sony, and will continue to do so.

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# RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitPS360 Owner1 2011-02-07 10:58
"Bad boys, bad boys, watcha gonna do when they're commin for you"

Sony vs Hackers, this is a pitiful and yet hilarious.

Funny because it's a stupid case but too bad for those hackers they're being sued.

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# RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuittrigger_ftu 2011-02-07 11:18
i'm rather for it. sony is goin to be eating their words. there is only 2 things i despise 1 pirates. 2 people that use cheats. theres nothing wrong with using cfw but there is a problem when people use it irresponsibly. and thouse are the people that should rot in prison. not someone that is smarter than the average joe at computer science and technology. but people that are pirates and boring noobies that think it's fun to modify a few files to ruin everyone else fun on a game.

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# Agreeklosrc 2011-02-07 11:30
You are absolutely right... thats what is important to avoid, it doesnt matter how many people hacked their ps3... but rather who of them have used it to cheat during online gameplays...

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# RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitRicktor 2011-02-07 13:31
Exactly. If you abuse PSN by using cheats with the CFW then you shouldn't have CFW. If you have CFW, use it responsibly and only for legal homebrew coding that does not hack PSN or any other PS3 features :lol: .

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# RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitI 2011-02-07 18:23
I dont even know why $ony is bothering. The cat is out of the bag, and there's nothing they can do about it.

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-2 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitDeino 2011-02-07 22:00
Its their technology, their patents and their rights.

Quit whining about your so called consumer rights.

Imagine you invent something and sell it to your rivals. Do you let him off for hacking your systems, duplicating them, spreading them all over the internet potentially leaving that invention to being raped of every single one of its patents or due you use your right to do what you want and fight?

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+1 # Think before you post...OwnerOfJailbrokenPS3 2011-02-08 07:50
This happens anyways, What makes sony so special... For just about any product, there is a duplicate made by another company at a cheaper price. For example, look at all the fake chinese made PS3 controllers on ebay. At first glance you cant tell the difference if there're real or not, they even built their packaging to resemble Sonys. Do you think this is right? These controllers have been sold on ebay for YEARS and Sony has not said a thing. You know why? Because they could care less about their name and patents all they care about is making the money in the end. So when you purchase this fake controller for $35 they dont care because they didnt lose any money, You did. And sir, I think you need to defend your consumer rights a little more then you are. If it weren't for the Consumers rights act, all companies would be telling us how to use our products. Do you want Ford to tell you that you cant put a new paint job on your truck because it will hurt their name or business? NO WAY!

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-2 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitSonyFollower 2011-02-07 22:33
I think what Sony is doing is right. I don't care what any of you say. Most of you do not understand. See it from their perspective. If the ps3 was hack then it would end up like the PSP. Cheating online and emulators and pirated games would be on the system. The PS3 is meant for gaming. Do you really think that no one would put pirated games on the PS3. If you feel like you wanted to play a game but decided not to buy it; would you not think of just pirating the game? And Homebrew; What is SO important about Homebrew? the only home-brew I found were emulators, or I thought they were pointless. I used to have a PSP and I never bought a game for it. Why? Because I had no money and wanted to play for free. after I showed some friends my PSP, EVERYONE wanted CFW. Why?? For the free games! DUH! Everyone who had a psp that I knew wanted CFW becuase thye could just download and play free games. You all deny the fact that it would be the same on the PS3. You are stuck in your little worlds of; "we must hack the bleep out of the system". I say "Good job Sony; You must prevent this from happening". I love my PS3. I even was able to put on Zerogame on my PS3. I played pirated games like snes and gba and others. I didn't own the games in real life. I just wanted to play them. I have Official Firmware. I don't really need all of this fufu stuff that people are requesting. People always complain about nothing new in each firmware. What? You want something? Come on! Windows XP, Vista, 7 etc.... get updates. Why are people not demanding something from them? Firmware or updates is mainly to fix problems. It is not always about getting something. Geez... Selfish. What is so awesome about Homebrew? MSN messenger, linex, or something that you could do on a computer or Ipod touch or whatever? You don't need everyone on everything or everything on one thing.

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+1 # Think before you post...OwnerOfJailbrokenPS3 2011-02-08 08:31
Ok sir you just need to come down, One thing that you must have forgotten is when the ps3 was first released it was called the Sony Computer Entertainment System, and as far as things go, I think still is called that. Just as their commercials say "it only does EVERYTHING"..Even they integrated Facebook, Web browser, Blu ray and other technology that has nothing to do with gaming. The fact is Sony didnt just make a gaming console, they made an entire multimedia everything station. Even Sony themselves boasted that the PS3 could be a super computer if programed correctly. As for your statement about homebrew, How can you dog something that you have never done yourself? And no Im not talking about the PSP.. The reason that there is only emulators for PS3 is because Hackers/programmers are to busy all the time trying to crack the latest OFW (or being SUED) instead making special programs for ps3. Its not like you or I can crack out a homebrew program for ps3...You need to know background of the system and how it runs to make a decent program. You state that no one complains or demands something from a Microsoft update; but to that you are wrong. There are many complaints, suggestions and demands that are given daily. But unlike the Ps3, you can just do a simple Google search and find a fix almost instantly (without the help of Microsoft in anyway). When it comes to me installing homebrew on my PS3 its like telling you that you cant install your favorite program on your PC. If I want firefox, MSN messenger OR EVEN LINEX on my PS3 it is MY decision... Just as it is yours to use them on your ipod or PC. Good day sir, and please think before you post next time...

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-2 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitSonyFollower 2011-02-07 22:34
And you people are really ignorant. Say like you all know everything. "I don't even know why $ony is bothering. The cat is out of the bag, and there's nothing they can do about it." and there are others who say stuff like: "WE got the codes and sony can try to update but with the codes out there is nothing that they can do" Who's WE? Are you a hacker? No? then stop saying we or us. You are not doing anything except just talking about it like your part of it. Your not! And like I said, I don't care what you say, Your just barking at the wrong tree. If I can find websites where they pirate games, I think Sony can too.

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-1 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitCF-105 2011-02-07 23:53
People here forget. You may own the systems but YOU DO NOT OWN the software running the system. You own the hardware not the bios which tells the hardware how to run.

Just like your computer, you own the machine but not the OS or BIOS telling the computer how to run and read files.

People here have no brains and keep saying "I own the systems, I paid for it" No you paid for the hardware,and they are allowing you to use the software.

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+1 # RE: RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitOwnerOfJailbrokenPS3 2011-02-08 10:40
Have you ever heard of a license key? License keys are used to entitle that one users product can not be given to another user without the purchase of another key. Therefor, the license key holder is actually the owner of that specific version of the software. So when I spend $150 on my Windows 7 install disk, It is MY version and no one else's. I dont really know what your trying to get at here..When you purchase a new computer and it comes preloaded with windows 7, you own that version. Same should go for the PS3, since my ps3 came preloaded with the OFW then that version of the software should be mine. Even if Sony does updates (kinda like microsoft update) I should have the right to say no and continue to use the PSN and all features. If you knew an update has the potential to mess up your system (or even remove a feature like Other OS) You should have the right to decline and continue to use the rest of the features of the PS3 including PSN. This is a great example of how a company is bullying costumers into doing something they dont want to do. I dont understand why people like yourself dont see the big picture and realize what jailbreaking allows you to do. Its allowing you to stand up and tell Sony NO MORE! Its gotten to the point where they dont care what their customers think and their going to do what ever they want, just to make an extra dollar. And people like yourself are willing to personally tuck it in their pocket. Have fun with that, Im going to go play Mafia 2 and Red Dead Redemption on my JAILBROKEN PS3!

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-2 # RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitDavid G 2011-02-08 01:06
I hope they win the lawsuit againt the hackers. I mean, it's partly because of those that gaming cost that much now, and because of them too that new firmware updates are nothing but security patches...
If Sony wins this, it's gonna start a trend, I think. It would be a good think. I mean, sony and microsoft have money, yes, but it's not always the case with the smaller devs that make your games! It's important to pay. I mean, would you personnally work, at your current job, without payment? I don't think so.

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# It's about timeGungrave609 2011-02-10 04:17
I actually took the time to contact a SONY representative the second news of a possible hack got released. The last thing I want is for my PS3 to suffer the same fate as the PSP. I understand what you guys are saying about consumer rights and being able to modify your system but all that goes out the window when you release that info to the hacking community. It's sad because I love homebrew but with all the piracy that comes with it, SONY needs to protect not only their investment but the investments of their 1st party/3rd party game companies.

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# RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitLleel 2011-02-12 13:49
You realize that a ps3 game is 8 gb+. Whoever has the time to download an iso and burn it, needs to get a job.

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# RE: Sony eyes Waninkoko and others in PS3 lawsuitDKgiz 2011-02-14 19:16
Its funny how some of you whine about sony's "right" to their software, every license used in the ps3 as described on this site:
http://www.scei.co.jp/ps3-license/index.html
is free to use and modify.
they try to cover their a..es with a lenghty EULA, and it might work in the US, but i think they will fail trying to sue someone in europe, cause our consumer protection is actually made to proctect the consumer, and not the one with the most money.

Let me just say i dont condone piracy, but i think its my console, how i choose to use it is my choice and no one elses.

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# Mr.Harold Meyer 2011-02-28 12:38
For fu.. sake, I bought the thing(PS3) if I want to take a shit in it, i'll do it...its MINE. If I want to play my backups on it, I have bought the game(s) and the thing that shows the games, ergo they are mine and mine to play with both softwarewise and hardwarewise. Sony wake up, you own the PS3 in the stores that are not sold, when I buy it with my hard erned cash, IT IS MINE.....
Q: do a toycompany sue you if you take your wireless remote car and mod it with a bigger electromotor or beef up the tyres? I dont think so...

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# Mrs.i484w9yuz9wj 2011-08-15 20:25
When you buy a PS3, you are entitled to the hardware. They have the right to remove the software if they want. If you want so badly to mod on your PS3, then wipe the hard drive and install Linux on it. That is the ONLY way that the machine will be completely and legally owned by you.

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