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Solution to SIXAXIS woes: play Lair using USB control pads

Posted Sep 2, 2007 at 2:07PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: Factor 5, SIXAXIS, Sony
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Playing Lair using Sega Saturn USB control pad - Image 1What was supposed to be among Sony's flame hot titles, Lair from Factor 5 has instead taken some heavy fire from critics and gamers alike. Being forced to play Lair using SIXAXIS control can spoil even the most epic dragon adventure. This has become one of the reasons why taking the video game for a spin can be unforgiving.

Fortunately, a sneaky alternative allows players to use analog sticks or directional pads of USB controllers. Many sources (especially forum goers in NEOGAF) claim that they were able to hook up certain USB control pads to play Lair. Someone from Wired supposedly got his Sega Saturn USB to work. SIXAXIS-free control doesn't stray much from what the game intended as expected, but saves players from frustrating moments of having their dragon move where he shouldn't be.

Key buttons weren't mapped to the Saturn pad, but there haven't been any reports of problems with Logitech USB control pads. We are yet to confirm if it's possible to complete the game with these controllers. Updates as we get them, so watch this space!



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# why start complaining now then stupid wii waggleGuest 2007-09-02 15:36
you have to at least keep playing until you feel just right or as expert controls. could anyone just ride a bike on there first try no. wii waggle is does not have enough wii buttons to control well. i rather play normal controls. some people are playing gamecube on wii for metroid prime 3.

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# The Controls Are FineCHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-09-02 16:05
I know that many people are probably frustrated in the controls do to the learning curve but people also thought the same thing when the analog sticks became mandatory in games, I know I did. I personally enjoy using they motion sensor in the game. At first it was a little difficult but it's getting easier and now the game is not so hard. LAIR is a great experience and I hope everyone plays it.

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# .Guest 2007-09-02 16:49
thing is that this is a fix for a problem that shouldnt exist

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# ...Guest 2007-09-02 16:54
They should send a patch to allow reg controls and also fix the six axis

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# i actually askedQuixand 2007-09-02 16:56
Vsions yesterday when I saw over PSN that he was playing Lair... i asked him how it was cause i'm having second thoughts of whether getting this game or not when it gets released in Australia (since i'll be getting Warhawk and Heavenly Sword already in that same week)...



apparently the gameplay bashing of reviewers cause of the controls were a little shortsighted since apprently they didn't have time to actually get used to the controls first and just got on to their job to finish the game and finish the review for publishing... he said the learning curve is quite steep but (just as in any other game) if you've already put enough time on it it's no problem at all.



so yeah.. i want to experience this game. i'll be getting it end of September.

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# .Guest 2007-09-02 18:20
True!

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# you can play lair on the psp remote playGuest 2007-09-02 18:50
I heard you can play lair on the psp via remote play.... you guys who have the game and a psp should give it a try. I did and its freaking awesome

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# lair controlsGuest 2007-09-02 20:41
The controls probably are fine. Nevertheless, the last thing I wanna do when I a vegatable on the sofa is flail my arms about.

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# Yea i knowStealth! 2007-09-02 21:58
Its just like the devs who are too lazy to make good games(like EA) and blame sony for it. People just need time to adjust to the new controls.

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# lairGuest 2007-09-02 23:04
the game is fine 9.5 on graphics

10.0 on sound quality

7.9 on gameplay

9.0 on six axis controls

this game is easier to control than warhawk

i guess the guys that reviewed the game cant play video games the six axis is dead on and how else would you play this game i mean direction pad would not work.

i love the game , the only downfall of it is the gameplay is

lacking a little bit, you play the game by doing tasks

and some of them can get a little boring, but on the other hand some levels are amazing. best graphics i have seen yet , it is crazy how many things are going on at once.





ok and for the lowsy reviews it got.. sonic got like a 5.5 and that game was awful in every way. lair is beautiful and is fun. i mean unless these guys dont like playing different kinds of games like lair. maybe these people are close minded and only like fps games and racing and sports.

4.5 on score are you serious. best game out for ps3 hands down i mean you gave ghost recon 2 a good score and rainbow six and those games look and play like last gen games and the multiplayer is god awful.

so go buy this game and try it for your self if you

want somthing else to add to your game collection

besides mindless shooters and sports games!!!!



i give it an 8.5

had it since friday itches pre b

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# QJ--just another site bias against anything SONYGuest 2007-09-03 00:04
I've been reading these QJ articles for a while now and it seems like anything related to PSP or SONY, they always throw in a negative word at the end of the sentence or paragraph to emphasize that it's SUPER HORRIBLE, SUCKS, so Don't BUY it kind of crap.



EXAMPLE:

Being forced to play Lair using SIXAXIS control can spoil even the most epic dragon adventure. This has become one of the reasons why taking the video game for a spin can be unforgiving.



Get my point!!!!! QJ I hope you're reading this cause you're expose......We now know that you are bias against

anything Sony and I just wanted to let the rest of the readers know that this is a poor site to get accurate info on Sony PS3 or PSP without tossing in article that almost alway have negative remarks in it.



Get your facts straight!!!



You are reporting on a game not your sorry bias opinions,

Opinions are like ASS HOLES, big deal--everyone has one.



go and read the xbox stuff, they don't have any negative remarks in their articles, why only Sony hun.



Lair is a great game+beautiful graphics= an A in my book.

six axis is a great controller with motion sensing capabilities--heck it's the top notch for next Gen console controllers. I didn't hear a single good thing about it, so what are you trying to say hun.....what are you trying to tell us, that it has nothing good about it except for being a crappy controller.



Look at xbox360 their controller is nothing but an oversize plastic that basically mix a PS1 controler with a Game cube controller. Look at the basic controller shape and buttons=PS1. Look at where the D-pad and analog stick is located=Gamecube. Don't even try to tell me it's coincidental because given that it came out after the two systems controllers. And given M$ decietful history of copying others and claiming it their own all the way up to the future to the Windows Vista--Whichis nothing but a rip off of Mac OS X...here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK9-9hxNuvk



M$ is out of ideas and has nothing new all I see them do now is copy the competitors...xbox360 has just a copied controller and nothing new and next gen about their controller yet all they get is praise for not having anything original and needed as standards for the future(coughs--Blu-ray).



bottom line is I am tire of seeing so many bias articles on QJ, so PLEASE site administrators, PLEASE keep out whatever opinions your bias writers add as junk to the articles or stop posting such bias articles or your site will be just another one of those that posts nothing but trash.

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# Wow! What a childish pointless rant.Guest 2007-09-03 00:33
It really was. I bet you had tears of anger in your eyes when you wrote that.



So now that you've thrown all your toys out of the playpen, what next?

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# Eh?Guest 2007-09-03 00:38
"best game out for ps3 hands down..."



Lair? The best game out for the PS3? And yet you only give it 8.5! So the best game on the PS3 is only worth 8.5 to you? Nothing is better than 8.5 on the PS3?



What you're saying seems to be inconsistant. It's as if you *want* to like Lair, rather than truly believing it's the best game on the PS3.

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# OLD INFORMATIONGuest 2007-09-03 00:54
almost all PS3 games support USB pads.

i use my DUAL SHOCK 2 connected to a ps2tousb adapter as a second controller and almost all games i have tried WORKS! pretty much the same just minus the rumble (does not function due to my adaptor) and tilt which is nonexistent on dual shock 2. i can pretty much use almost all of my ps1 and ps2 peripherals on ps3. beatmania controllers, arcade hori stick, gt driving force pro, eyetoy, wireless keyb, mouse, and yes even the pa*****o controller. talk about compatibility, it even beats my PC because windows requires drivers and the ps3 dont. booyah

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# lairGuest 2007-09-03 02:13
gave it an 8.5 cause thats what it deserved

and is the best game out.

there are no 9.0 or better games out yet

ask me when heavenly sword comes out and you will see a 9.5 along with mgs4 and kz2.

but for now i am just seeing a bunch of lowsy ported titles like tiger woods football racing

same crap thats on the 360 and a matter of fact that is all that is on the 360, i mean i will say gears of war was a good game , but i just had to sell the 360 , one game alone is not enough for me to keep it. ps3 on the other hand lets you copy boot leg movies on it , and lets you pretty much do anything except play burnt games.

xbox360 does not even have a web browser or a bluray. and no offense kz2 and mgs4 look far better than halo 2.5 , i mean i beta tested halo 3 and it was garbage. and i feel more safe that my ps3 is not going to crap out on me.. through software or hardware

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# hahahahahahhaGuest 2007-09-03 02:19
stupid pos3tard must be on his period.

bashing the 360 when he has never even

played it.

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# @easyjesus aka Unleash_Your_Fu ryGuest 2007-09-03 02:46
Firstly, try to learn how to reply using the same name and within the same part of the thread! It's not difficult, even a child can manage it.



But Lair better than Resistance? Better than Warhawk, Oblivion, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Motorstorm and a number of other PS3 games I could mention! Oh please. Lair got the reviews it deserves, but naturally, it doesn't matter how bad a game is, or a film, or a book, or an album etc, there will ALWAYS be people who like it, but that doesn't mean the reviews are wrong!



And like I said, you're inconsistant. One moment you say "the only downfall of it is the gameplay is lacking a little bit, you play the game by doing tasks and some of them can get a little boring", and yet at the same time you say the game is fun? Seems to me you are a classic 'graphics whore', where graphics matter to you more than gameplay. Those who don't like Lair seem to prefer gameplay over graphics (as a real gamer should). Hence because you're impressed with Lair's graphics, you are happy to ignore the poor gameplay, just like people who like a cr@p film with a poor plot and bad acting just because it has great special effects. :P



Lastly, your comments about the 360 are as wrong as your comments about Lair being the best game on the PS3. In fact, given what you've said about Lair compared to other PS3 games, everything you say can be taken as a joke. ;)

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# ^^^CorrectionGuest 2007-09-03 03:50
Should be @easyjesus aka slomosus

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# ?Guest 2007-09-03 05:25
Why the hell can't you just switch motion sensing off and use analog controls? Also why can't you turn the rumble on? Oh yeah, I forgot. IMMERSION.



It's ridiculous to use a special USB controller just to play the game controllably.

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# so?Guest 2007-09-03 05:28
The XBOX 360 has the best controller so who cares where it's design influence came from?



It's comfortable

It has rumble

Analog sticks work best

The wireless is interference free

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# What is wrong with you people!Guest 2007-09-03 06:32
Anyone here that actually played LAIR even TRY to get used to using sixaxis? If you can't play the game using sixaxis, that's fine, but don't whine about it until you've actually played the darn game for a day or two and managed to get used to it. Anyone that won't even try getting used to sixaxis controls is an ignorant prick. Give it a chance, if you dont, you suck at games and shouldnt be playing anyways.

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# To PS3 Fantard (Unregistered)CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-09-03 08:01
There is nothing wrong with the controls. This game controls great! I can play it very well and enjoy all the immersion it has to offer. People that complain have not gave it a chance or have never played it at all. The game does take some getting used to but the controls are very good and make a lot of sense the way that they laid them out. I am very happy with this game and hope they make many more sequels! Anyone that has a PS3 should give this one a try, and don't give up. It took me a couple hours to learn the game and using the tutorial before playing the actual game helped a bunch. Now I know what to do to make the experience very enjoyable and it is very addicting. This game is wonderful!

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# SharpShooter (Unregistered)CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-09-03 08:03
I couldn't agree more.

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# Or perhaps ----Guest 2007-09-03 08:42
--- some have gotten used to the controls but still find the gameplay boring and therefore don't like the game.



Nah, that can't be it, they can only dislike the game because they can't get used to the controls. Yeah, that's it, I feel much better now.

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# we forgotGuest 2007-09-03 14:39
RFOM and ninja Gaiden got a 9 when it came out. The 360 has the best contol for a console FPS i rather the dualshock for everything else.

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# Use the PSP to play Lair...Guest 2007-09-03 17:03
You wouldn't need to play Lair using a USB controller that's not ensured that it'll work. You could just use the PSP. The downside is that you won't have a TV screen to view the game but imagine buying a $30 USB controller and finding out it doesn't work with the PS3.

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# BrendanL (Unregistered)CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-09-03 18:07
Does it work well playing LAIR on the PSP. What do you do with the controls?

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# To Common SenseGuest 2007-09-04 05:56
Hi MCS,



Long time no see/read!



Anyway, from most of the Critic and User reviews I've read on the Net for this game so far, these are the two viewpoints that seem to jump out consistently:

Either

(1) The motion-sensing Control scheme sucks

Or

(2) The Control scheme takes some getting used to, but it is worth the effort to learn, as the game is fun to play.



This makes me think that most of the poor reviews are a result of Game reviewers, pressed for time, trying to finish a game and review it quickly and not bothering to really give a new Control scheme a chance (this can't be really compared to the Wii as motion-sensing is an integral part of the Wii and so any reviewer HAS to get acclimatized to it to review a Wii game, while this is not integral to 99% of PS3 games, so most PS3 reviewers won't bother to truly learn it).



That being said, I do hate having time limits in games as well. I have enough deadlines at work without having to try to make a deadline in what should essentially be a fun activity.



I'm playing Warhawk at the moment (or rather, will start this weekend) - bought the headset bundle, but after I'm finished with that, I'll give Lair a try and see if the poor reviews are indeed justified or just a bunch of lazybones reviewers trying to get on with their jobs.



Regards,

Thinker/MTK

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