wow. well this comes as a suprise after son was against the dual sku which microsoft had when they released their console. I personally think this may just be a rumor considering the fact that they have no reason to have a core and a premium. Haz made it totally clear that the system was going to be expensive and i can't imagine how they are going to be able to play blu ray games and not movies. its the actual laser that inteprets the data and not the firmware so despite what lock out they may have.. that particular laser must be present inorder for either blue ray disc to be read. Thus if there is a core package, then Sony is going to be seriously cheated because regardless they are still selling the same blue ray software but just way blow what they can afford to sell it as. Further more, Microsoft used the Dual sku (core and premium packages) as a sample test to simply sell systems until the main stream was confident enough to spend that much money on an proven system. The ps3 will carry hype and prescn

what the....how come my 399 and 599 got erased?

Am I the only person who really doesn't care if the PS3 plays Blu-Ray videos???



Blu-ray video is not worth $300... I just don't want it...



The only reason I want blu-ray, is because Sony wont have to face those looming Disc Size problems (if there even are any)... Personally, if the PS3 will be $300 for Blu-Ray games only, I'm buying the $300 model, NO QUESTIONS ASKED...

My guess is that there will not be any games released on Blu-Ray anytime within a year (maybe even two) after launch of the PS3.



There are no immediate disc capacity issues that make their use necessary (http://www.gamesfirst.com/index.php?id=1132).



Why would game publishers want to pay the premium necessary to put their games on Blu-Ray when they would easily fit on a smaller, cheaper media like DVD.



Gotta give kudos to Sony for the nice smoke and mirrors job they are doing marketing it (Blu-Ray) though.

Wait, an EBgames employee? How are you people taking this seriously? That's like saying "I work at McDonald's so I know the price of the PS3".



You honestly think they're just going to tell this info to some random employee at EBgames? Gimme a break...

After the way EBGames handle the 360's, i.e. Only honoring the preorders that also bougt a couple games at the same time. I bet this is just EBGames bundling up a bunch of **** together and selling it for an inflated price. Then 'running out of' core machines to sell.

A PS3 that doesnt play Blue-ray, then it would play PS3 games at all. So it wont be a PS3.



WHatever store said this is just bull****ting. Sony cant release two versions of the console because that would be like manufacturing a PS3, make one that has all the features and one that disables features. Its not practical.



the xbox core and premium accually had removeable hard drives that defined it being cheaper. Anyone who believes that sony would make such a stupid move is an idiot.



Disk space is an issue for true HD games. If any console wants true HD content they will need a mssive amount of space. Most movies on DVD9 arent putting out 1080 because they cant, space wont allow it.



games can be the same, PC games have had compress all their files and still use 4gb of space. But PCs are much faster and better at handling compressed files. Most of the recent PC games have broken the dvd9 barrier when you decompress all the files. And they are designed for resolution of 1600x1200.



Consoles dont have t

Thats the most rediculous thing I have ever heard of. Having a Blu-Ray drive only to play movies. I can understand having two different versions, but that is about it. (One for the HDD and extras and the other one just the main essentianls.)

if sony would really not use the blu-ray for movies it would just be a wast of money for them. so i don't think they're gonna do that.



after all, they aren't as stupid as MS

The main difference will prob be Color, HD port, and few other items. The Blu-Ray drive will prob be in both. Now one may/may not be able to play the movies, but still play the games. Remember people there is a difference between the Silver back and the Blue back of the PS2, nano meters difference. So movies and games on Blu-Ray will prob be the same, it will fit, just not "see" it.



And Sony already stated they will out MS MS. They have shown the PS3 in silver, white, and black. As well as stated they will be different. So, it does not suprise me one bit.

The source of this info is already highly questionable... An employee at a random gamestore (which I guess EBgames is, I'm from Holland)



I think half of it really could be true, like I read here. A normal PS3 and a PS3 with all kind of **** bundled too it.



No blu-ray video playback on one system and playback on the other is very weird for 300 dollars. Especially if blu-ray games are to be read by both systems. The technology would be in there, but only not enabled. I guess there would be cheaper ways to enable it.



Also it wouldn't be a great move to win the race between blu-ray and hd-dvd, making a blu-ray video player more expensive then it could be. Especially 300 dollars...

If anything, my guess is the only Blu-Ray media people will be able to get for PS3 will be movies.



Not likely that third parties (Sony might, but I think even that is debatable) will be putting out games on Blu-ray within the first couple of years of the system's release. Extra storage is not necessary at this point and is not worth the premium they would have to pay (and charge) for the media.

I didn't read all comments but I would just like to ask one thing you really think Sony is stupid. The blu-ray playback is one of the main features. When I say main I mean its beside the cell technology its one of the ps3's selling points. Plus playback of videos is a software/firmware issue not a hardware issue.

hahahah LOL @ "He also said the $ 299 version might not have the Blu-ray Video playback function, but the $ 599 version will."

i swear thats total BS coming from an "EBgames Employee"



as for this "I wonder if Japanese people are getting THAT well paid, or was he just referring to the $ 299 version?"

as far as i know you can probably earn a few thousand yen in one night by working part-time at a construction site

A PS3 that doesnt play Blue-ray, then it would play PS3 games at all. So it wont be a PS3.



WHatever store said this is just bull****ting. Sony cant release two versions of the console because that would be like manufacturing a PS3, make one that has all the features and one that disables features. Its not practical.



the xbox core and premium accually had removeable hard drives that defined it being cheaper. Anyone who believes that sony would make such a stupid move is an idiot.



Disk space is an issue for true HD games. If any console wants true HD content they will need a mssive amount of space. Most movies on DVD9 arent putting out 1080 because they cant, space wont allow it.



games can be the same, PC games have had compress all their files and still use 4gb of space. But PCs are much faster and better at handling compressed files. Most of the recent PC games have broken the dvd9 barrier when you decompress all the files. And they are designed for resolution of 1600x1200.



Consoles dont have t

OVIOUSLY THERE IS A MUCH MORE BIGGER REASON TO REDUCE THE PRICE BY HALF, MAYBE LOCATION FREE PLAYER OR THE BUILD IN WIFI. I AM POSITIVE IT JUST WONT BE BLU RAY VIDEO PLAYER!!!!

This doesn't make any sense. A $300 difference because one machine has video codecs and the other doesn't? This rumor suggests they both have Blu-Ray drives, but one costs $300 less because they disabled video playback. BS. Manufacturing costs would be the same, there's no way one would cost twice as much.

WTF does a EB 6.10$ an hour idiot know about sony's top secret plans. Tottal BS, TOTAL. There is no way in hell sony would release a non blueray system. 2 Priced systems could happen, but it maybe be HDD and cheap plastic peripherels.

The reason I think there is such a huge price difference is because, it will most definitly be because of the blu-ray drive.(thats what I think) The launch of blu-ray players is expected to be around a grand. The reason for the blu-ray drive being so cheap for the ps3, is because it isnt just a stand-alone player like the thousand dollar players. The hardware capabilities of the ps3 help a bunch(thats what I've heard recently). The manufacturing cost difference between regular dvd drives and blu-ray drives is huge. The cost to manufacture a dvd drive is just a few dollars. I think the cost to manufacture a blu-ray drive is around $80-90(Thats what I also heard). The people who think that sony would just disable blu-ray capabilities on a blu-ray drive, are insane. Sony would waste too much money on newly(or soon to be) released technology. Built-in Wifi is cheap, location free player can be done through software(like firmware or something).

I call BS.

have any of you thought that sony purposly leaked this to see how people react, and see if they could release it at 600 and still sell or if everybody got mad and said "F*** 600 dollars thats too much"

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WTF?

That's the dumbest statement ever.

I mean, he's an idiot and it shows.

If cheaper PS3 has Cell (decoding), RSX (processing) and Blu-ray (content), then how could it not play movies?

What an idiot.

It won't have Blu-ray drive, but it will play Blu-ray games? Oh yeah, I forgot that my DVD Player also recognizes Blu-ray discs.



It's SONY, it's not Microsoft. They want to deliver quality, and they will, whether you can afford it or not.



Can this site go any lower? You guys start to post TOTAL GARBAGE, and kids around here, without brains probably, are eating every little straw of info.



And about games not taking up the BD disc: yeah they don't on X360, because they look like crap and use current-gen technology, next-gen games will take up much more space, just like Epic said.

"And about games not taking up the BD disc: yeah they don't on X360, because they look like crap and use current-gen technology, next-gen games will take up much more space, just like Epic said."



Ok..now i know what is wrong...



you are a blind fanboy...and anything negative said about the ps3...you get pist off?..right? So you make an attack on the 360, which has no cgi pre-rendered games, and gears of war looks as good as MGS...so don't use that as an excuse.



ok i am a ps3 fan boy just to get that off my chest but im not stupid

yes gears of war looks as good as MGS but all that aside



do you now how long the game is? thats all i want to know :)

anyone who belives any part of this from the 2 systems to the price point stated is an idiot

If there's anything to it, its probably one is just the system, and the other has games.

finally someone who is not retarted

you awnswered that question well but who bout this one

Madden 06 cut out almost every thing Xcept just the raw game (one big thing they cut out is Super Star)

but they cut out somuch because of small storage on DVDs

no if a game like madden isnt even full then how do you posably think Gears of war can even be a decent lenght game when the graphics look far beter then madden

now on the other hand there is no evedenice that show ps3 games can fit on BD Xecpt that the are more then 5x the size of DVD so i think with much confidence that MGS will be 2 to 4 times as long

blu ray is just another danm sony marketing format so people have to buy from them. lame ass sony. i like PS but its too danm avious what they are trying to do

last year the SCEE prez said that they probably would realese a core games system with a cheap price and a PSX media center type at a higher price, then M$ did that with xbox 1.5 n now people think $ony is copyin them, lame.

Yeah Vecha, I got pissed off on this one, I'm not pissed off because someone bashes PS3, I'm pissed off because it's a LAME rumor, and it's POSTED on THIS site. Yeah, when crap is posted, it makes me mad.



And Epic said: "Next-gen games WILL need AT LEAST 20 GB of FREE DISC SPACE" - it's not my fanboyism, it's Epic.



I didn't use MGS as an argument, but if you want to argue with me on this one, then go ahead, because I already showed that you don't know much about technical side of graphics.



One thing that is important (and if you're not blind, and if you're PC is fast enough to run hi-def trailer, you should easily notice) - GeoW really can't compare graphically to MGS4. Just to say, GeoW character models are built out of 10-15k polygons (triangles), Snake's hairs alone, in MGS4 are built out of 60k polygons (you can see individual hair, and they are physics driven, so they move realistically).

Facial animation - if you watched trailers, you would notice, that in GeoW main character is

I would still like some gameplay footage on MGS. There isn't any. There even was low frame rate on the non-gameplay vid...So i'm wondering what will happen when you have 20 guys on screen...firing bullets and over a million polygon(just for the hair alone)



If you asked me...I'm feeling a little uneasy as to how it will play.



But if it's great..no low frame rate drops..then great I'll get it.



if not...I'm sure a better ps3 game will show up.



BUT...seeing as this isn't even on topic.



What I was saying to you...Is you flipped...when on the site it even states, "RUMOR" I too beleive this is bull****.



But I won't act like a baby and scream, "WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH THIS SITE"



I mean c'mon. Its just a rumor. And they thought it'd be interesting you know what is in the rumor bin...even if it sounds utter bs.

We will just have to see. If one is better then the other. Oh well. Nothing will stop me from getting a ps3.

If its true the $300 version would be great for me, as i currently am just a teen and i have no job..

listen a blu ray disc player cost $1000 and the ps3 only cost $600.with blu ray,wifi,two wireless controllers,40g b hard drive,cell processor for next gen gaming.extremely awesome games,which the xbox 360 cant overcome.what more do you what!!!!!do you what it to fly or make money?and dont forget the ps3 is beautiful and will have out standing online play!!!