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He also said the $ 299 version might not have the Blu-ray Video playback function, but the $ 599 version will. But still, both versions are capable of playing Blu-ray games. Now imagine a PS3 that can't play Blu-ray videos... the only word I can find is "Lame".
Ken Kutaragi's words are still in my head even now: "You can buy the PS3 by working overtime for a few days." I wonder if Japanese people are getting THAT well paid, or was he just referring to the $ 299 version?
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Oh well, I bet this is because so many people are too cheap to buy a $500 console and everyone got used to the 360 core system. So Sony is trying to be equally competitive by releasing both systems to compete with the both 360 versions. This makes sense, however, I bet it will just be a firmware lockout and people will eventually crack the core system to play back Blu-ray movies.
Well, I don't really care anymore, I am going to get one no matter what. I will get the premium of course and hope that my pre-order is met.
wow. well this comes as a suprise after son was against the dual sku which microsoft had when they released their console. I personally think this may just be a rumor considering the fact that they have no reason to have a core and a premium. Haz made it totally clear that the system was going to be expensive and i can't imagine how they are going to be able to play blu ray games and not movies. its the actual laser that inteprets the data and not the firmware so despite what lock out they may have.. that particular laser must be present inorder for either blue ray disc to be read. Thus if there is a core package, then Sony is going to be seriously cheated because regardless they are still selling the same blue ray software but just way blow what they can afford to sell it as. Further more, Microsoft used the Dual sku (core and premium packages) as a sample test to simply sell systems until the main stream was confident enough to spend that much money on an proven system. The ps3 will carry hype and prescn
I'm not betting on anything, but it could as well be bundled edition which gamestop will feed you tons of launch titles you don't even want, and 7 controllers:P
SWEET, if that's true, $299 is the price it's going to launch at...:D
and think about the number of launch titles Gamestop will have to place inside the order if they wanted to make a $599 Bundle:D
what the....how come my 399 and 599 got erased?
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Am I the only person who really doesn't care if the PS3 plays Blu-Ray videos???
Blu-ray video is not worth $300... I just don't want it...
The only reason I want blu-ray, is because Sony wont have to face those looming Disc Size problems (if there even are any)... Personally, if the PS3 will be $300 for Blu-Ray games only, I'm buying the $300 model, NO QUESTIONS ASKED...
http://unibios.free.fr/
This can be a Example, of a Hacked next generation FIRMWARE for PS3... Imagine a firmware with All Cheats included for all games (and automatic UPDATE by Internet TOO!...)
My guess is that there will not be any games released on Blu-Ray anytime within a year (maybe even two) after launch of the PS3.
There are no immediate disc capacity issues that make their use necessary (http://www.gamesfirst.com/index.php?id=1132).
Why would game publishers want to pay the premium necessary to put their games on Blu-Ray when they would easily fit on a smaller, cheaper media like DVD.
Gotta give kudos to Sony for the nice smoke and mirrors job they are doing marketing it (Blu-Ray) though.
Hmm what should I get? Core or Premium? If its Core, then I can get into Blu-Ray Video Playback with homebrew. If its Premium, then I don't need a homebrew to play Blu-Ray Video Playback. I would say either both is fine, because of firmware update just like the PSP! I'm definetely gonna buy two Cores or 1 Premium, just in case I have enough money for gaming & media player!
Wait, an EBgames employee? How are you people taking this seriously? That's like saying "I work at McDonald's so I know the price of the PS3".
You honestly think they're just going to tell this info to some random employee at EBgames? Gimme a break...
While I do agree that this information is questionable, Comparing EB knowledge to McDonalds knowledge is a little overblown. I would expect that an EB employee would have more insidr info than McDonalds.
After the way EBGames handle the 360's, i.e. Only honoring the preorders that also bougt a couple games at the same time. I bet this is just EBGames bundling up a bunch of **** together and selling it for an inflated price. Then 'running out of' core machines to sell.
Why would sony not put Blu-Ray play back on the 299', PS3.
This is just another nasty rumor from some idiot Xbox360 fanboy...
A PS3 that doesnt play Blue-ray, then it would play PS3 games at all. So it wont be a PS3.
WHatever store said this is just bull****ting. Sony cant release two versions of the console because that would be like manufacturing a PS3, make one that has all the features and one that disables features. Its not practical.
the xbox core and premium accually had removeable hard drives that defined it being cheaper. Anyone who believes that sony would make such a stupid move is an idiot.
Disk space is an issue for true HD games. If any console wants true HD content they will need a mssive amount of space. Most movies on DVD9 arent putting out 1080 because they cant, space wont allow it.
games can be the same, PC games have had compress all their files and still use 4gb of space. But PCs are much faster and better at handling compressed files. Most of the recent PC games have broken the dvd9 barrier when you decompress all the files. And they are designed for resolution of 1600x1200.
Consoles dont have t
This just in! In 2010, Microsoft plans to release the Xbox 1080 in four different variations. Three of which will actually play games. The other will just sit there and warm the general area around it. To compete, Sony will release the PS4 in seven different variations. Four of which will play games, two of which will only play the upcoming and completely unneccessary format of DVDs known as "Purple Ray", and the last one will make waffles branded with the sony logo. Nothing else... just waffles.
Thats the most rediculous thing I have ever heard of. Having a Blu-Ray drive only to play movies. I can understand having two different versions, but that is about it. (One for the HDD and extras and the other one just the main essentianls.)
Quit taking "leaked" information from random EB or gamestop (or ANY retailer for that reasion) seriously. Every GS employee will say ps3 reservations "soon". The fact is, the employees NEVER know themselves until THE DAY THAT RESERVATIONS START or just a couple days before. The only possible way an employee can know is if he is "high up" in the company, in which case, they wouldn't leak the info because they are under NDA.
These blogs that post info they heard from a local employee are just dumb. I worked at gamestop for two years, so I know that these "news" posts are just pointless when the source is "some employee at GS or EB".
if sony would really not use the blu-ray for movies it would just be a wast of money for them. so i don't think they're gonna do that.
after all, they aren't as stupid as MS
THis isn't going to happen. I can tell you why very easily, sony is planning on there format blu-ray to succeed and beat out HD DVD. They plan on using the PS3 as a big advatage to beat HD DVD, so if they don't include a blu ray player then that means they will only hinder there chances at winning the format war. Also 600 dollars is too much for a system to cost in the first place. I doubt you would get over 100,000 units sold in the US
This isn't even worth posting here
The main difference will prob be Color, HD port, and few other items. The Blu-Ray drive will prob be in both. Now one may/may not be able to play the movies, but still play the games. Remember people there is a difference between the Silver back and the Blue back of the PS2, nano meters difference. So movies and games on Blu-Ray will prob be the same, it will fit, just not "see" it.
And Sony already stated they will out MS MS. They have shown the PS3 in silver, white, and black. As well as stated they will be different. So, it does not suprise me one bit.
Able to read blu-ray and not be able to play back video??
that does not make sense
anyways, i think it might be like the PSP
where you have the value pack and standard
The source of this info is already highly questionable... An employee at a random gamestore (which I guess EBgames is, I'm from Holland)
I think half of it really could be true, like I read here. A normal PS3 and a PS3 with all kind of **** bundled too it.
No blu-ray video playback on one system and playback on the other is very weird for 300 dollars. Especially if blu-ray games are to be read by both systems. The technology would be in there, but only not enabled. I guess there would be cheaper ways to enable it.
Also it wouldn't be a great move to win the race between blu-ray and hd-dvd, making a blu-ray video player more expensive then it could be. Especially 300 dollars...
Well, I was an EB Games employee at one time, and I am very doubtful this information is true. The daily emails head office would send the stores are often wrong, and would usually have a 'follow-up' email days later to fix any crazy rumors the first one started. This is probably just some 17 year old kid trying to start something. but who knows.
If anything, my guess is the only Blu-Ray media people will be able to get for PS3 will be movies.
Not likely that third parties (Sony might, but I think even that is debatable) will be putting out games on Blu-ray within the first couple of years of the system's release. Extra storage is not necessary at this point and is not worth the premium they would have to pay (and charge) for the media.
I think they will relese the core in spring so ppl dont lose interest in the ps3 and then later they will relese the premium.
Still, sounds fake.
I didn't read all comments but I would just like to ask one thing you really think Sony is stupid. The blu-ray playback is one of the main features. When I say main I mean its beside the cell technology its one of the ps3's selling points. Plus playback of videos is a software/firmware issue not a hardware issue.
Sony need PS3 Blu-Ray playback to sell their own next-gen dvd format.
hahahah LOL @ "He also said the $ 299 version might not have the Blu-ray Video playback function, but the $ 599 version will."
i swear thats total BS coming from an "EBgames Employee"
as for this "I wonder if Japanese people are getting THAT well paid, or was he just referring to the $ 299 version?"
as far as i know you can probably earn a few thousand yen in one night by working part-time at a construction site
Do you realize how well the work structure in japan is? the longer you stay with a company the more you get paid every year and the more bonuses. Japanese people also work alot more then americans. We call 8 hours a full day, they call 14 hours a full day. People die from over-working in Japan, whens the last time you read that someone in America died because they work too much, it happens so often in Japan that it doesnt make it in the newspapers anymore, they get a side colum.
You wonder if the japanese have the money, they definitly do, their pay rate is alot higher then in america. If the PS3 cost 500 bucks, it will sell out just as fast if not faster then the PS2. If it cost more then 500 then it will still sellout. people who arent willing to pay the premium for the PS3 will be shoved aside for people who are.
A PS3 that doesnt play Blue-ray, then it would play PS3 games at all. So it wont be a PS3.
WHatever store said this is just bull****ting. Sony cant release two versions of the console because that would be like manufacturing a PS3, make one that has all the features and one that disables features. Its not practical.
the xbox core and premium accually had removeable hard drives that defined it being cheaper. Anyone who believes that sony would make such a stupid move is an idiot.
Disk space is an issue for true HD games. If any console wants true HD content they will need a mssive amount of space. Most movies on DVD9 arent putting out 1080 because they cant, space wont allow it.
games can be the same, PC games have had compress all their files and still use 4gb of space. But PCs are much faster and better at handling compressed files. Most of the recent PC games have broken the dvd9 barrier when you decompress all the files. And they are designed for resolution of 1600x1200.
Consoles dont have t
"An employee at a random gamestore (which I guess EBgames is, I'm from Holland)"
They have no EBGames in holland?!?!
I gotta move back there!
Anyways, this ish bullsh*t, It costs them money to do it.
And obviously a core and premium would be like one HDD and one not, and maybe some controllers..
Hell, if Sony's online aint free than maybe a subscription.
OVIOUSLY THERE IS A MUCH MORE BIGGER REASON TO REDUCE THE PRICE BY HALF, MAYBE LOCATION FREE PLAYER OR THE BUILD IN WIFI. I AM POSITIVE IT JUST WONT BE BLU RAY VIDEO PLAYER!!!!
Sony will not shoot itself in the foot. They are pushing blue ray, the dudes at EB are morons, nuff said!!!
This doesn't make any sense. A $300 difference because one machine has video codecs and the other doesn't? This rumor suggests they both have Blu-Ray drives, but one costs $300 less because they disabled video playback. BS. Manufacturing costs would be the same, there's no way one would cost twice as much.
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WTF does a EB 6.10$ an hour idiot know about sony's top secret plans. Tottal BS, TOTAL. There is no way in hell sony would release a non blueray system. 2 Priced systems could happen, but it maybe be HDD and cheap plastic peripherels.
The DVR capablities may be taken out from three hundred version, because it would require a larger than usual HDD. Also the 6 hundred version may include credits to get media from the iTunes type service. The 6 hundred may also include extra wirless controllers, a memory stick/portable storage, and HDMI cables. The 3 hundred version may have only a wired controller, and a basic av-to-rca type cables. Sony is more smarter than just to waste money, they know how to drain your money. But in the end, you're happy because you have your very own PS3.
The reason I think there is such a huge price difference is because, it will most definitly be because of the blu-ray drive.(thats what I think) The launch of blu-ray players is expected to be around a grand. The reason for the blu-ray drive being so cheap for the ps3, is because it isnt just a stand-alone player like the thousand dollar players. The hardware capabilities of the ps3 help a bunch(thats what I've heard recently). The manufacturing cost difference between regular dvd drives and blu-ray drives is huge. The cost to manufacture a dvd drive is just a few dollars. I think the cost to manufacture a blu-ray drive is around $80-90(Thats what I also heard). The people who think that sony would just disable blu-ray capabilities on a blu-ray drive, are insane. Sony would waste too much money on newly(or soon to be) released technology. Built-in Wifi is cheap, location free player can be done through software(like firmware or something).
6 hundred dollars, and 3 hundred. I can buy 2 core PS3's for the price of one premium...Obviously, they are going to do something drastic as to take out the blu-ray drive and use the good old red lasered dvd drives for the 3 hundred dollar version. THINK! 2 core PS3 4 PRICE OF 1 premium. Still, this news still seems kinda fake since the prices are sooo absurd. Lol forget what I said, all news is bull**** until launch.
I call BS.
Both versions will have Blu-ray functunality. The premium version will come with a 80gb 2.5' HDD preloaded with linux and various apps and programs, PS3Net service free, one Blu-ray movie, and a few other accessories.
My conclusion is quite logical, since a 80gb 2.5' HDD retails about $150, an HDMI cable for around $50, etc... I know you can get these cheaper but I am listing them at average retail prices.
So basically the core systems will be a standalone version PS3 with no PS3Net service (separate monthly access fee), no HDD, and comes with standard component or a/v cables vs. pricy hdmi.
have any of you thought that sony purposly leaked this to see how people react, and see if they could release it at 600 and still sell or if everybody got mad and said "F*** 600 dollars thats too much"
The manufacturing cost to create different internals for the PS3 will drive up cost.
Its cheaper and more efficient to manufacture one model. One default model. if you manufacture 2 models then you have to design the process to create two types of the PS3 which cost more.
Also DVR is cheap. The PS3 will already have everything a DVR needs except software. So DVR functions is just a matter of installing DVR software. Cheap way to add DVR, will cost them next to nothing to add that feature. Hard Drive are not as expensive as you think, even 2.5 laptop drive. Sony can buy directly from manufactures and if you checked the price of laptop drives, they arent so overly expensive.
A PS3 wouldnt bea PS2 without a blue-ray drive, they already said the PS3 will come with a Blue-ray drive. Why would they make a model with no Blue-ray drive?
Online Service will probably cost a monthly fee. But if Sony is gonna be smart about it, they need to offer it for free for a few months to get the bugs worked out and off
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WTF?
That's the dumbest statement ever.
I mean, he's an idiot and it shows.
If cheaper PS3 has Cell (decoding), RSX (processing) and Blu-ray (content), then how could it not play movies?
What an idiot.
It won't have Blu-ray drive, but it will play Blu-ray games? Oh yeah, I forgot that my DVD Player also recognizes Blu-ray discs.
It's SONY, it's not Microsoft. They want to deliver quality, and they will, whether you can afford it or not.
Can this site go any lower? You guys start to post TOTAL GARBAGE, and kids around here, without brains probably, are eating every little straw of info.
And about games not taking up the BD disc: yeah they don't on X360, because they look like crap and use current-gen technology, next-gen games will take up much more space, just like Epic said.
Hmmm...let us see what the title of this article says...
"Rumor: PS3 To Have Different Systems Too?"
Wow...will you look at that. It says the word "rumor" any idiot who reads it and takes it as the truth...well too bad for them.
"And about games not taking up the BD disc: yeah they don't on X360, because they look like crap and use current-gen technology, next-gen games will take up much more space, just like Epic said."
Ok..now i know what is wrong...
you are a blind fanboy...and anything negative said about the ps3...you get pist off?..right? So you make an attack on the 360, which has no cgi pre-rendered games, and gears of war looks as good as MGS...so don't use that as an excuse.
"And about games not taking up the BD disc: yeah they don't on X360, because they look like crap and use current-gen technology, next-gen games will take up much more space, just like Epic said."
Ok..now i know what is wrong...
you are a blind fanboy...and anything negative said about the ps3...you get pist off?..right? So you make an attack on the 360, which has no cgi pre-rendered games, and gears of war looks as good as MGS...so don't use that as an excuse.
ok i am a ps3 fan boy just to get that off my chest but im not stupid
yes gears of war looks as good as MGS but all that aside
do you now how long the game is? thats all i want to know :)
i bet this is fake. averyon eknows what eb games preprices evertything without legit info
anyone who belives any part of this from the 2 systems to the price point stated is an idiot
Guys, I hope you know that 'Employee's' don't know Jack.
It has about as much credibility as a radom post on a message board
If there's anything to it, its probably one is just the system, and the other has games.
ok i am a ps3 fan boy just to get that off my chest but im not stupid
yes gears of war looks as good as MGS but all that aside
do you now how long the game is? thats all i want to know :)"
I didn't call any fanboys stupid. But saying the Ps3 is better then the 360 because of "MGS" is blind fanboyism.
I don't know how long Gears Of War is...but I also do not know how long MGS4 is either.
finally someone who is not retarted
you awnswered that question well but who bout this one
Madden 06 cut out almost every thing Xcept just the raw game (one big thing they cut out is Super Star)
but they cut out somuch because of small storage on DVDs
no if a game like madden isnt even full then how do you posably think Gears of war can even be a decent lenght game when the graphics look far beter then madden
now on the other hand there is no evedenice that show ps3 games can fit on BD Xecpt that the are more then 5x the size of DVD so i think with much confidence that MGS will be 2 to 4 times as long
I could be totally wrong with it comes with the 360 using a dvd.
I could be wrong that it will be enough.
And I understand that BR makes it seem more sensable to think the game will be longer...But...Launch games are known to not be the best and not show the full potential of a system.
I will be getting two systems...and if the ps3 comes out to be better...I'll most likely buy more games from Sony and anything on the ps3...
But...I am not totally shuting off the 360 from my mind just because of the belief that the DVD will not be enough.
Hopefully they can master space over content.
But then again...if one is better then the other...remember we are the victors as the consumer, we can go out and choose one over the other and just buy games for the better system...
But I really believe it will be very close in terms of power and graphics.
But...we'll have to see...
sorry I'm such a fence sitter...XD
blu ray is just another danm sony marketing format so people have to buy from them. lame ass sony. i like PS but its too danm avious what they are trying to do
did any of you ever think about all the other features of the ps3 ??
perhaps the premium is the one that includes the DVR, LOCATION FREE, and after seeing the psp support only mp4, maybe the premium will use diff firmware that allows for the playback of video approved by sony (bluray)
there is alot of technology that is being put into the media centre aspect of the ps3, so it is totally possible that they will release another ps3 designed specifially for games, to be cheaper than the media centre one ^_~
last year the SCEE prez said that they probably would realese a core games system with a cheap price and a PSX media center type at a higher price, then M$ did that with xbox 1.5 n now people think $ony is copyin them, lame.
did any of you ever think about all the other features of the ps3 ??
perhaps the premium is the one that includes the DVR, LOCATION FREE, and after seeing the psp support only mp4, maybe the premium will use diff firmware that allows for the playback of video approved by sony (bluray)
there is alot of technology that is being put into the media centre aspect of the ps3, so it is totally possible that they will release another ps3 designed specifially for games, to be cheaper than the media centre one ^_~
Sony has been noted to say they wouldn't have different systems. I can understand your form of thinking...but chances are slim...especially this info coming from a "stupid kid" who works at EB games.
Yeah Vecha, I got pissed off on this one, I'm not pissed off because someone bashes PS3, I'm pissed off because it's a LAME rumor, and it's POSTED on THIS site. Yeah, when crap is posted, it makes me mad.
And Epic said: "Next-gen games WILL need AT LEAST 20 GB of FREE DISC SPACE" - it's not my fanboyism, it's Epic.
I didn't use MGS as an argument, but if you want to argue with me on this one, then go ahead, because I already showed that you don't know much about technical side of graphics.
One thing that is important (and if you're not blind, and if you're PC is fast enough to run hi-def trailer, you should easily notice) - GeoW really can't compare graphically to MGS4. Just to say, GeoW character models are built out of 10-15k polygons (triangles), Snake's hairs alone, in MGS4 are built out of 60k polygons (you can see individual hair, and they are physics driven, so they move realistically).
Facial animation - if you watched trailers, you would notice, that in GeoW main character is
wow snakes hair rapes lol thats like a car in Porject gotham isnt it, 60k right, wow and thats in his hair lol that rapes :)
I would still like some gameplay footage on MGS. There isn't any. There even was low frame rate on the non-gameplay vid...So i'm wondering what will happen when you have 20 guys on screen...firing bullets and over a million polygon(just for the hair alone)
If you asked me...I'm feeling a little uneasy as to how it will play.
But if it's great..no low frame rate drops..then great I'll get it.
if not...I'm sure a better ps3 game will show up.
BUT...seeing as this isn't even on topic.
What I was saying to you...Is you flipped...when on the site it even states, "RUMOR" I too beleive this is bull****.
But I won't act like a baby and scream, "WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH THIS SITE"
I mean c'mon. Its just a rumor. And they thought it'd be interesting you know what is in the rumor bin...even if it sounds utter bs.
My post was cut, but whatever.
Why are they posting crap like this? It doesn't make any sense.
And sorry, but MGS4 demo didn't have any framedrops, GeoW was like 15 fps all the time, but not MGS4. There's a part of the trailer, in which Kojima changes effects and such, and it states the framerate in the numbers, it was like 40-60 fps all the time.
I was also talking about animation, Snake and everything in MGS4 is life-like, due to muscle structure, and real-time animation, in GeoW it all looks just like in a current-gen game, only that it's more sketchy.
And facial animation - in MGS4 - it's all life-like, in GeoW, there are prescripted maps, that are added to main model, it looks lame and CAN'T really compare to MGS4.
We will just have to see. If one is better then the other. Oh well. Nothing will stop me from getting a ps3.
actually, I believe that the starting price for the PS3 will be AT LEAST 1000$, most likely even more than that. I read that the blu ray movie players themselves will start selling at around $1000, so it is only logical that the PS3 being able to play blu ray movies and blu ray games will be at a higher price than the players. Unless Sony is willing to lose a lot of money or they are just stupid, they will be losing millions of dollars over the next few years since obviously people won't pay that much.
If its true the $300 version would be great for me, as i currently am just a teen and i have no job..
blu ray will be cheap, the demand is rising, and lessening for hd dvd. bluray will be most effective in the home recording section. 50gb to possible 200gb disks in the future.
there have been issues about ps3 not including a hard drive. i think they should do exactly what they done with the psp.
the ps3 should came standard with a small hard drive (maybe 2gb), basically enough for all those online stuff and that. just like the psp comes with 32 mb. but the ps3 is a multimedia station, for videos and music, so they should have the option to buy larger hard drives.
this is good because not everybody will be using the psp for videos and music, just like some people just use psp to play games.
listen a blu ray disc player cost $1000 and the ps3 only cost $600.with blu ray,wifi,two wireless controllers,40g b hard drive,cell processor for next gen gaming.extremely awesome games,which the xbox 360 cant overcome.what more do you what!!!!!do you what it to fly or make money?and dont forget the ps3 is beautiful and will have out standing online play!!!