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Rumor: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 to be three times better on PS3 than on Xbox 360?

Posted May 14, 2007 at 1:29AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Konami, playstation 3 updates
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Rumor has it that Konami's Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 for the Playstation 3 would not only be considerably prettier than the Xbox 360 version, but significantly superior - up to three times the quality. This comes from an E-mpires forum boards poster by the handle of Shodan, who quotes a Korean Konami insider's blog (there's also talk about a confirmed Final Fantasy VII remake).

It's a possible theory backed up by some unconfirmed factoids: that Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 would benefit greatly from the large-capacity Blu-Ray format - the popular football game predicted to take up at least 18 GBs' worth of space. There's also the superior framerate the Playstation 3 version would also have, as well as online connectivity.

It's surprising that Konami let this much information slip out, so the veracity of the news is suspect. We can only wait for further developments, and we'll be sure to update you as we get them.



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# BS !Guest 2007-05-14 03:01
I smell BS !!!

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# What a crock of crap!!Guest 2007-05-14 03:15
Man this rumor will disappear quickly. My predicition right now is that they will look no different and probably be better on the 360, especially the online portion. Oh, I love how this stuff starts.

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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 03:18
"there's also talk about a confirmed Final Fantasy VII remake"

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# hard to believeConstantinecy 2007-05-14 03:18
Ok if the game actualy requires so much space to achive a certain quality (18Gb!!)then the 360 version will have to suffer quite painfull cuts in order to fit the game in a dual DVD(and it could be copressed as well). But the ps3 version being 3 times better...no that's a big exaduration!. Konami would never allow such a leak even if it was true.

Once more we will just have to wait and see..

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# continueGuest 2007-05-14 03:20
The statement above proves this is total BS. How could you post this news? It's obviously a fake.

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# GloryGuest 2007-05-14 03:22
Does Sony have a X360 buy-back policy, if you buy a PS3?

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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 03:27
360 version was 2GBs so your theory makes no sense.

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# looks at the fanboysGuest 2007-05-14 03:29
fanboys are f,ucking gay. oh no my xbox 360 is *****, boohoo. wake up u f,ucking gimps ps3 is better and uses bluray so it can be better an i hope it will be !!!!!

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# Well...Shatterdome 2007-05-14 03:36
My Korean informant tells me it's the other way around, and actually 360 will be 8 times better then PS3....so there...

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# You miss my pointConstantinecy 2007-05-14 03:37
My 'theory' is based on the fact that even if the developers wanted the game to be better and bigger on the 360 in the first place they could not do it due to space limitations on the dvd used by the 360. Now on the Ps3 the space is no problem.

I hope this makes sense to you now, my friend Devise

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# .Guest 2007-05-14 03:40
not 3 times better maybe 2 times though lol

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# hahahaGuest 2007-05-14 03:41
pot calling the kettle black.

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# .lmxloco 2007-05-14 03:41
Of course the game will look 3x better on the PS3. The PS3 costs 3x as much as the 360, so it's only natural.

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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 03:46
"probably be better on the 360"



Oh yeah..... the console that has one game 2 years into its life that the ps3 launch games couldn't beat graphics-wise and only about two others even worth getting!



the 360 version of pes6 was the worst version even the psp had more put into it

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# hmmGuest 2007-05-14 03:48
hmm do I smell a bit of jelousy from you? It this sort of news us PS3 owners love to hear just because we know its true. Our 1st gen games which are only using 20% of the PS3's SPU look as good as your latest games (apart from Gears: as that game is stunning). Just wait until our 2nd or 3rd gen games come out when devlopers can use to ps3 to its full potential!

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# sounds likeGuest 2007-05-14 04:09
sounds like a sony fanboy to me. LOL anyway this is not official so its meaningless

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# really?Guest 2007-05-14 04:10
so $480 USD times 3 is $600 USD? Interesting, I'll have to go pickup a PS3 if its worth $1440 and is only being sold for $600

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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 04:13
Yes lets add more space but make it slower to pull off he disc. That'll help developers.



The extra space is only good for duplicate data to try and speed up data transfer rate closer to a more reasonable rate (still slow then DVD), useless FMV which Sony is so infamous for, and lossless audio that the PS3 can't even utilize.



Your just another Blu-Ray whore. Every PS3 owner has been raped by Sony into thinking it's going to provide something extra for gaming. Sony only added it to push their format and only really care that the format wins. If the PS3 dies making Blu-Ray a success Sony would think it's justified.



I guess your happy with a year delay and countless lost exclusives cause your precious PS3 can fold protein while you wait for MGS4 to come out in 2008.

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# supGuest 2007-05-14 04:26
I smell alot of jealous xbots crying " its unfair~! ". But apparently they cant admit it so they have to shoot it down as BS.

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# 3 times betterGuest 2007-05-14 04:49
How can you define what 3 times better is? Also to say it would take up 18 gigs is absurd unless it was all high quality HD video. I mean come on guys this is some really lame news and has no credibility at all. I know the ps3 fanboys are searching for everything they can to make their system last longer than the dreamcast but seriously at least use something with more credibility than some random post on a forum.

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# ..Guest 2007-05-14 04:51
"by Xbox is the best

sounds like a sony fanboy to me. LOL anyway this is not official so its meaningless"





that comments abit like black people saying they cant be racist isn't it

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# how old are youGuest 2007-05-14 04:54
Your making fun of fanboys while posting the most immature post i've seen in a while... Man you fanboys are evolving into a whole new species.

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# hm..Guest 2007-05-14 05:05
nice we will see that happen on some others games to not only on that game ps3 will have more nice game later this year the new gta will be better on the ps3 to

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# HiGuest 2007-05-14 05:09
You need to know the Winning Eleven 11 are developped onthe PS3 (the 360 version is a portage)

Konami have the biggest budget of the serie for the version PS3, and the Korean blogger says Pro Evolution Soccer 7 PS3 is 3 times better than PES6 360.

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# here we go againGuest 2007-05-14 05:11
yet more fanboy ism, geez guys.



if the gpu and cell on the ps3 can make it 3x better, that would be 3x better than what?



isn't a footy game just kicking a ball around a pitch? so, does that mean you will be able to kick 3 balls around? :)



maybe it is just me, but i aint a fan of footy games, they all look alike and have the same gameplay, would like to know what they think is 3x better tho.

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# 666Guest 2007-05-14 05:26
360 fanboys are so scared that they have to reply. I'm a PS3 fan and I don't care if this is true or not. Just ignore it.

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# 3x times betterGuest 2007-05-14 05:35
well 3 times better?



people are so stupid over here... So for the slow ones and the fanboys:



They mean the gameplay of Pes7 will be 3 times better than their previous effort (PeS6). That doesn't mean Pest on PS3 will be better than Pes7 on 360.



Think first, than write...

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# Why not?Guest 2007-05-14 06:21
Well the PS3 is the primary SKU sp its only natural that it will be better on that platform. Just look at FIFA and PES for the 360 - they miss a lot of leagues ect.



I firmly believe that the PS3 will be superior to the 350 version - both graphics and content wise.

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# Heath!Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 06:23
Man what is your problem? I agree with the fact that 3 times better is a totally subjective matter. As a matter of fact it is not even quantifiable. It is also lame news!



But if you think that the Dreamcast and the PS3 have anything in common except the fact that they are both gaming consoles then you are crazy.

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# horse*****matts1900 2007-05-14 06:23
what a load of horse*****, 'better' is a subjective term. why the hell do you bother printing this rubbish?

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# CryGuest 2007-05-14 06:30
Go cry you 360 whore, why do you even come to ps3 news ??

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# What?Guest 2007-05-14 06:30
How can you say the ps3 is better just because it uses bluray? yea it can hold more data but that dont mean graphics will be better. Im not going to say what i think based on this article because there is no proof or nothing, we will just have to wait and see what happens!

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# Blu-ray SpeedGuest 2007-05-14 06:33
You do realize Double Layer DVD's are read at 8x on the 360. And the data rate is almost equal to the speed of the 2x Blu-ray Drive. You do also realize I hope that the 8x Double Layer is the max on the outside of the disk at a burst read meaning it speeds up and slows down constantly were as the 2x Blu-ray drive is always at 2x when its being read, never slows down, data is always coming fast. You people need to figure out what your saying. The only time the 360 is faster at reading disks is when its a DVD-5 and even then it hovers around a 10x, DVD-9 hovers around 7~8x with slow downs. 2x Blu-ray > DVD-9.

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# You want to talk about fanboys?Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 06:33
I will tell you where to find one. Look in the mirror, man. You epitomize the definition of a fanboy! Grow up!

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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 06:51
the title of this article says it all - RUMOR. just wait until they release a statement about this.

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# LOLGuest 2007-05-14 07:00
HAHA!!! In a year from now no developer will be able to fit a decent game on that *****ty crap60 DVD. Developers don't want to go through the hassle. Admit it 360 fans you had your fun for about a year. Now it's time for the PS3 to rule the world as it should be. Damn, the crap60 got one of my favorite games though, GTA4. Now instead of having a excellent game on Blu-ray/PS3, we have to get this itty bitty game do to having to please those pathetic crap60 fans. Haha! 360 FTL, at least you had your fun.

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# 1.5 timesGuest 2007-05-14 07:03
let them wait for the 3 times better , it's been several month that we are playing the game , and they just see it playing it in their dreams.

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# Old NewsGuest 2007-05-14 07:10
This rumour has been doing the rounds for several months, I'm fairly sure I saw it on Digg back in March with a heading os Seabass loves ps3 or something

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# It must be trueGuest 2007-05-14 07:13
It has to be true....as I'm sure Konami won't want anyone with a 360 to buy that version of the game. Makes total sense to rubbish that version so it stays on the shelves.

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# Halo 3 rocks...Thank you...it appears that my "Crap60" moniker is spreading...here are some more to useGuest 2007-05-14 07:29
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# Rushed gameGuest 2007-05-14 07:34
I would be surprised if having an extra year to work on the game its not better, the trouble is its not hard to be 3 times better because it was only an average rushed game basically ported from xbox1.

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# QJ please dont start this RUMOR news reports again give us facts.Guest 2007-05-14 07:42
Pro evo soccer was a rushed out xbox1 port, any machine with the same sort of power as the 360 and a years more work on the game will always look better, this isnt news its nothing, If they bought a tennis game out now for PS3 and then spent a year longer working on the 360 version then the 360 version would look better. POINTLESS AND DONT START THIS RUMOR NEWS AGAIN PLEASE ITS BORING..

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# RE: THHTlmxloco 2007-05-14 07:47
Ahh, and the joke actually *does* go over someone's head. I guess the word "exaggeration" isn't one that you've learned quite yet.

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# nuh-uh!Guest 2007-05-14 07:56
I heard from my friend in........ asia.... that the ps3 version's going to be 1 bajillion times better than the 360 version!

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# things...Guest 2007-05-14 08:00
they have more things in it, like.... chainsaws, and explosions, and boobies, and swearing, and guns, and guitar solos, and fighter planes, and martial arts, and espionage, and missiles, and free roaming, and motion sensing, and protein folding, and blu-ray! that's what makes it 3x better.

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# us products are a good thing sometimesGuest 2007-05-14 08:04
to ps3rider.



"we can finally use Ps3's full potential, muu ha ha ha ha" sounds like some evil villian in a comic book. it sucks that the only thing all ps3 owners have to look forward to is what could be. lets focus on the now. now i know the 360 is better graphically and funner to play which is most important. now i know that ps3 is not doing well and blu ray is unattainable for the common buyer being that 60% of the nation is middle class and already in debt. now i know for ps3 and blu ray to survive they better cure cancer soon. its just funny how japanese buyers support there home product, ie the ps3. why cant we do the same here. 360 is a great product and very fun to play. support the home team people keep jobs in america not abroad and stop selling out to the "full potential" of the flop we call the ps3.

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# hmmAoxomamoxoA 2007-05-14 08:19
1) Who cares, its a soccer game (football for the UK peeps). Sports games are all the same, year after year.



2) Theyre refering to a years old game, so of course it will be better. Much like how PGR4 is better than PGR3.



3) This isnt even official, but even if it were it would still make no difference 360 or ps3 wise.

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# You cant be over the age of 13...AoxomamoxoA 2007-05-14 08:30
You sir, are one sad sad individual. None of those names are even humorous, you just bunched a group of words together and added 60 on the end. You must really feel like 360 is a threat to ps3 if you spend all this time thinking of names to bash it.



Do you really think console namecalling is going to upset any fans of the 360? Xbot, Microsuck, Crap60, who cares? Seriously, are there any 360 fans here who care?



Namecalling just shows the posters immaturity, and in the end only weakens his statements. If you want anyone to take you seriously try conducting yourself like an adult, and not some little kid on a playground trying to get attention.



I feel sorry for you, really, I do...

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# No buy-back policyAoxomamoxoA 2007-05-14 08:36
No.



I own all three consoles, and 360 is the one I play the most. I would say its a mistake to trade your 360 in for a ps3 (especially right now) since the only thing Ive used my ps3 for so far was about 10 hours worth of Motorstorm, and Ive had it since launch. But youre free to do whatever you choose...

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# idiotGuest 2007-05-14 08:45
youre a fanboy, so dont talk.

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# hahaha!!!!!!!!! !!!!Guest 2007-05-14 08:56
too bad for xboooooooooo360s fanboys

hahahaha

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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 09:05
It should be better then pro on 360..



At the end of the the day 360 is an amazing kit, but pro on 360 is dissapointing. it lacks the pace, the framerate is *****.



True pro fans know that pro on ps2 is the best out there, heck id even say psp pro runs smoother than the 360 version.. 360 version is all looks.



I dont know if ps3 version will be 3 times better thats a stupid thing to say but it definately has the potential to be better than 360.

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# dumb xboysGuest 2007-05-14 09:13
this is where dvd9 hurts the 360. think of mapping for all the faces. more space means more faces, better stadiums. say what you want less space is never better.

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# turkey!Guest 2007-05-14 09:28
a bigger disc size can also do the same thing a larger hard drive does for you... you clump all the material into chucks and it reads faster than if the material is clumped all around the disk. the same amount of data on a full dvd could be placed on a 30% or so sized pie chunk

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# retardzGuest 2007-05-14 09:36
games like resistance, take up 16 gigabytes and if it wasnt all converted down, it would have taken up 22 gigs................so dont say there never going to use up space

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# ^Guest 2007-05-14 09:59
in response to -why not- "Just look at FIFA and PES for the 360 - they miss a lot of leagues ect. " pes never had many leagues on any versions on the consoles and fifa 07 had a completly new physics engine exclusive to the next gen console out when it was released funnily enough it was the xbox 360 out then. samsung or some other company has developed 51gb hd discs so if the 360 had a hd drive it could fit in the 18gb easily.

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# Shortsighted idiots...kniteowl 2007-05-14 10:13
should keep quiet. "Lets focus on the now" If everyone shared your attitude and your view then people would be forever stuck in the same place, "focusing on the now".

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# Stupid Xbots going ON AND ONkniteowl 2007-05-14 10:18
about "slow drive speeds" when its been proven to be the same. Get over it. You're just trying to compensate for something... like maybe a smaller capacity for games. Yeah, compression can help you but only so far.



I sense Disc Capacity envy here...

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# WTFkniteowl 2007-05-14 10:20
LOL~

I heard from my Korean-Japanese-Asian hybrid informant that the Wii version will be 999999999999999 9999999 times better... Its graphics would PWN the 360 and PS3 versions...

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# Brilliant.kniteowl 2007-05-14 10:24
If WE11 is being developed on PS3 1st, I'd love to see how the 360 handles the port. Its been mentioned that shoddy porting from the 360 to the PS3 is the cause for a lot of the graphics woes in games like Splinter Cell Double Agent

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# BRICKED XBOX!!Guest 2007-05-14 10:36
PLEASE I MY XBOX IS BRICKED!!!



help!



:'-(

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# *****headGuest 2007-05-14 11:03
Who give a ***** what you feel for him ?? go to your crap60's forum *****

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# RE: zettraneGuest 2007-05-14 11:32
The only reason the 360 is better now is because of it's one year advantage. when the 360 came out, it was also just hoping for better games, as any new console is.



and blu-ray is obviously attainable by the common man as it currently is out-selling HD-DVD 5:1....



although i agree with the job thing, i still dont think i should purchase a console to support someone's job when im overpaying for what its truly worth when i can purchase a ps3 and know that it is worth more than i paid for it...

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# Stupido indeedAoxomamoxoA 2007-05-14 11:42
Fitting name, Stupido. You obviously dont realize news gets posted in more than one forum.

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# LOLGuest 2007-05-14 11:45
I got the joke, you apparently didn't get the sarcasm.

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# huhGuest 2007-05-14 11:55
why do you guys care about some stupid soccer game for?

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# Zettrane!Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 12:21
First of all why don't you try to look up funner in a dictionary.



I am looking forward to many good things in the future with my console. Have you checked the facts recently BD is overwhelming HD-DVD more and more every day. I am not preaching BD here I am just stating some obvious facts.



Just like the 360 still has not reached it's full potential yet the PS3 is also still miles away. I will not even try to spew percentages and figures because I think that is ignorant and unquantifiable because you are talking about theoretical limits. But I will tell you that for a fact neither console has reached it's limit yet.



These PS3 games are 1st generation on a console that is admittedly more difficult to program for. The learning curve is much greater and truly good games will take some time to make. Make no mistake about it though the PS3 will get some great games particularly after the studios master how to program for it. This is not an excuse it is a fact.



BTW, cancer is just one of the many things that folding@home is trying to cure. Alzheimer's, Cystic Fibrosis, Huntington's, Parkinson's, BSE, and cancer are all things that folding is working to cure.



Geez, I shore em sad I bawt that there yousless PS3, must a bin the dummest thing I ever dun! Please man we are not stupid we just bought something different than you. Go hang out on the XBOX 360 forums and talk to someone like yourself. God knows that there are enough losers over their too.



One more question. Could you please tell me why the most ignorant fools with the stupidest remarks are always unregistered? Are you all cowards too? I mean it's easy to spew manure from your mouth when nobody really knows who you are. Is that it?



Go home! Can't the circus keep you freaks under lock and key?

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# Dev'sGuest 2007-05-14 12:26
Well, unless everyone on here has developed a game for the 360 and the PS3, then everyone (360 and ps3 fans) are talking out of their ass, since ytou have ZERO actual experiece with it.

What I DO know is whafrom what Bethesda said about Oblivion, which is that they said they needed to double-up information on the blu-ray disc. So if you have another major developer that released the same game on both systems saying otherwise, please tell me who. Untill then, shut your *****ing breathing hole.

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# Support the home team ... or it'll eat youdamonous 2007-05-14 12:28
Hmmm... how many AMERICAN companies has Microsoft gobbled and liquidated? --How many competitors has it ruthlessly squashed via questionable business practices that the Federal Govt has had to spend HEAPING SUMS of taxpayer money to sue over and restrain from them repeating? --zettrane makes some good points, but "buy Microsoft because their American" isn't one of them. Besides, other than the Intel CPU (Sony's Cell is ALSO an American IBM product), I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any American components in an Xbox 360. As for hardware/software design-team jobs, sure. But, I think these superginormous megacorporation s like Microsoft have also been the ones to pave the way for "Free Trade", and the resultant job outsourcing we see today. There's no way that Microsoft (or Mac, or Sony, or etc, etc) OS software, other bloatware, etc. could have sold in the volume that it does today if there were not dirt-cheap machines available for "the common buyer". So, in the end, I think we've all paid (behind the lines) for the right to purchase whatever mostly-foreign-component product we choose. "Home team" doesn't quite have the meaning it once did. Heck, even in sports "home team" doesn't mean anything, when you consider that 90% of any professional team is made of players who sold themselves to the highest bidder and transplanted their family to your 'home town.'

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# ..Guest 2007-05-14 12:31
why is it that 360 fanboys TRY to bring up relevant negatives to ps3(forced purchase of Blu-ray, bad system architecture and an even worse online strategy) and all ps3 fan boys do it is call people xbots and such? Oh yea its because anyone with half a brain and the money to buy a ps3 wouldnt buy one. Sony fanboys are either notoriously ignorant and to poor to buy a ps3 or there rich mommy/daddy went out and bought them one for Christmas. Time to wise up, your extra money was invested in a forced hd media format. I also find it funny that last years e3 ubisoft got payed to claim Assassins creed was only capable with the power/storage space the ps3 has and sony fanboys bought it and stood by it now that ubisoft is doing the same thing for microsoft(in a much more believable manner..they just dont want to work with the ps3 architecture) all the ps3 peeps freaked and called them liars/lazy and such. Seriously take a deep breath and pull sonys Kock out of anus, its been there far too long im sure its getting sore.

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# no supriseGuest 2007-05-14 12:35
really theres no suprise i mean gay games should be better for the gayer system

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# WOOHOOGuest 2007-05-14 12:47
Yeah baby that's what I'm talking about

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# WOWGuest 2007-05-14 12:55
I heard the ps3 version also makes you more toned and athletic whilst playing.



WOW!

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# wowGuest 2007-05-14 12:55
wowowowowowow, ok, im a PS3 fanboy.

But wow, what balls on this guy to say it will be 3 times better, what are you comparing it to? what are your facts? why will it be '3' times better?



what pisses me off is that, ps3 fanboys who make ***** up, set the rest of us with intelligent argument back to hell, like we are all little kids.



BUT! If this info (from a credible source) were to be true, then i dont want to hear the 360 fanboys starting to say oh konami's does not know what thier talking about and bla bla, uhhh, THEY MADE THE FREAKING GAME< THEY KNOW WHAT THIER TALKING ABOUT!!!!!! But then again thats only if konami's says that, not some ps3 fanboy who's balled havent even dropped... I guess I MIGHT see why it might be better IF the space on the blue-ray versus the 360 disc has somthing to do with it, but i dont see how that would be a prob for the framerate... Unless it was especially made for the PS3 using the cell to new highs and then they did a *****tY job porting it over to the 360.



Please come on guys i am a PS3 fanboy, but please dont make childish comments.

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# What?Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 12:56
You are just a regular 360 owner but you have that much to say? You don't think that we can't tell that you are a 360 fanboy too? I mean you didn't really think that little smokescreen at the beginning of your post really threw anyone off course do you?



The only mention of 360 fanboys in your your post talks about the supposed crap they say. Then the rest of your post is about how much the PS3 sucks. You are a loser! I not only have a full brain and the money, but I am actually glad that I bought a PS3. I am sorry to rain on your parade but you deserve it.



You had just better hope that the cheapest BD player, which is also your consoles competition, doesn't flood the market with consoles purchased primarily for BD right now. Wouldn't that suck for you? That would give the game studios a huge PS3 market to sell to making much it more valuable to them to do so. Most of the lost exclusives that you 360 fanboys like to preach about are simply due to a smaller, and therefore less profitable, consumer base. They didn't teach you things like that in economy class? You don't start a company to lose money. You start a company to make it! When you are publicly shared your shareholders also demand it!



Keep bashing that which you fear because that is your only hope to keep it down. It is worth every penny I spent on it. I have no regrets whatsoever. Scratch that! I regret spending so much time responding to a loser like yourself because I did buy one.



P.S. Let me guess you are going to tell me that you are one of these guys that doesn't have a Next-Gen at all you just like to point out crap when you see it. Well save your time! That is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time and I just pointed at some crap. Yup! You got it! The crap in question is your entire post.

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# Actually could be completely true, PES6 on 360 was just topping 7GB alreadyGuest 2007-05-14 13:00
So factor in Bluray, that means at least more room for things like commentary, sounds, stadiums, textures etc. EA already complained that they had run out of space on a DVD9 for Fifa.



With last generation games using alot of a DVD9, I can see why we'd easy need over a DVD9 for all the newer highdef video and sound, that stuff takes serious space.

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# OMG OMG OMG FF7 remake!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!Guest 2007-05-14 13:03
who cares about soccer, the Final Fantasy 7 remake is the REAL news here.



OK, I'm going to just die from excitement now

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# >?Guest 2007-05-14 13:24
well, i find it funny how every time some good news comes out for the ps3, the xbots rush to the scene and try to deny every single aspect of the good news.

its time to grow up xbots, i have all 3 consoles, and so far, at the rate its going, ps3 games will outclass 360 games by the begnning of next year at the most.

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# Have bothGuest 2007-05-14 13:29
I have both systems and they are great in their own way, I personally play 360 more as I like the online gaming on there, dont be fanboys, dont be fooled into stoopid arguments about 'BETTER THAN YOUR SYSTEM', have the brains to take in the facts and come up with rational conclusions. Have your opinion yes but have a well informed, rational and 'I'm older than 5' opinion.

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# Wow!Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 13:33
That is definitely one of the most intelligent posts I have yet read today. Thanks for showing the common sense that I wish more people had.

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# i love itGuest 2007-05-14 13:53
i love people that get so worked up

playstation is a good product. however, just like sega and its many ideas that were ahead of its time, ie, tele genesis, first cd drive, virtual fighter and the list goes on, ps will probably see the same outcome. kutibah- bd movies are outselling hd and thats only been the last few months. that could be attributed to the fact that people who have the hd players are renting there movies not buying them. furthermore, hd is still the top seller of stand alone units. get your facts straight before commenting.

to all others, your comments are very valid, i understand that ms is a big company, i just like seeing our nations gdp stay constant and not fluctuate due to outside products.

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# Nowai!kniteowl 2007-05-14 14:15
No... that's the Wii one where you have to kick that Wiimote around... Remember the Wii version will be 20 times better than the GBA version.

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# Actually...Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 14:51
"playstation is a good product. however, just like sega and its many ideas that were ahead of its time, ie, tele genesis, first cd drive, virtual fighter and the list goes on, ps will probably see the same outcome"



Actually the ps (aka Playstation) was 2 generations ago and was very successful. Where were you when that happened?



Now if you are talking about the PS3 you really should keep your fingers crossed. Not that your wish will come true but at least you could hope so. Hey, I have an idea. Why don't you hold your breath until it fails. No, you probably shouldn't do that you will be dead long before the PS3 is.



You really have no clue! Reality is not just a TV genre. You may want to come back to it sometime.

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# AwesomeGuest 2007-05-14 14:59
Well this is not a surprise. It's bound to happen

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# Kick BallGuest 2007-05-14 15:21
You guys in the UK might care if it ends up being true but us Yanks could care less about another game of kick ball.

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# lol no next gen?Guest 2007-05-14 15:58
Actually as of right now I own a 360(love it thus far although i dont play it THAT often) a wii(serious potential but i havent played it since i beat zelda) and my PC(core2duo e6600@3.2ghz, 2gig ddr 800 4-4-4-12 timing ram, 8800gtx@stock speeds and a raptor for all my games and what not. I will NOT say i dont own a next gen system and wont lie that i am a bit biased towards the x-box. Your whole statement about my "smokescreen"...wtf are you talking about what i said about x-box fan boys was hardly even negative. So how was it a smokescreen.



About your whole comment with the cheapest bd players being competition to the 360 and giving game studios a larger market to sell to. I think your confused, or i am, wouldnt a Blu ray player thats cheaper then the ps3 be a bad thing for the ps3? I mean it would make it so there a more viable bd player for less meaning less sales of ps3's due to it being the "cheapest" blu ray player. And really i worked in a gamestop for 3 years up until recently(terrib le company never work for them btw) and the majority of people who would rave the ps3 as the greatest thing ever were exactly what i said they were, either too young to know any better or too ignorant and poor to afford it anyway. Please stop telling me I "fear" the ps3. I just see it as a entirely bunk machine that does very little more then a system that costs 200 dollars less. Most of my post is actually supposed to come off as crap btw, its called flaming? And again ill say i do own a 360 and a wii i just stick to my pc gaming.

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# to validate yourself.Guest 2007-05-14 16:09
No one cares...

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# UnicornAoxomamoxoA 2007-05-14 17:48
Seeing a sony fan post something like you did is almost like seeing a unicorn in the forest, awesome! Much respect man, much respect...

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# yup yupAoxomamoxoA 2007-05-14 17:58
I agree about the age thing man. Im 27 and of course I was playing games way before playstation hit the scene. To me, ps seems like a fad in the industry that only the younger croud adopts because they think its the coolest console since its made by sony.



Take last gen for example, Xbox was the better machine pound for pound but somehow the ps2 sold more. Now its the other way around, PS3 is the (SLIGHTLY) better machine but I feel it going the way of the dreamcast sooner or later.



Unlike you though, I own all 3 consoles (I try to get all the consoles each gen) and Ive only played my ps3 for about 12 hours total since I got it on launch. Theres just not anything that great to play. Actually, the sad thing is Ive probably played the Wii more than my ps3 (zelda, of course).



The way I see it is this...PS3 is for hardcore gamers, 360 is for casual and hardcore gamers, and Wii is for new and casual gamers. I know which one goldie locks would pick! lol

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# come one guy lets talk about the real news hereGuest 2007-05-14 18:06
Dynasty warriors gundam we can all drop our pocky sticks in glee and pretend to be in robots ^_^









im just messin with ya carry on with the my system is better than urs arguement

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# is that three times better than the CURRENT Pro evo?Guest 2007-05-14 18:30
Because then thats EASILY believable! The current pro evo is a just a PS2 port with better graphics

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# If this is true then...Guest 2007-05-14 18:54
I don't think that the 360 will ever see a Metal Gear Solid game like the one that's coming out for the ps3. If Konami's putting all their development resouces into their soccer game, then I'm willing to bet they're doing the same w/ the MGS series for the ps3. Rockstar has a thing or two to learn from Konami (assuming that this story is true ... of course).

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# Wow, you are dense!Folding Junkie! 2007-05-14 19:13
The PS3 IS THE CHEAPEST BD PLAYER! Don't you get it? Currently the cheapest BD only players are the same price as the PS3. With upgradeable firmware BD features can be added down the road if more features need to be added. Why not buy a PS3 for the same money? It makes more sense, appears to the consumer to be a more valuable option for the money, and WILL flood the market with PS3 consoles.



Still don't believe me? Check out www.avsforum.com search for PS3 Blu Ray and see how many people are buying it as a BD Player. It is ignorant and fact-free comments like yours that really make me scratch my head and wonder why most of you trolls have so many opinions and so few facts to back them up.



Stop trying to explain yourself. You really just don't like what you don't understand. I bet you haven't read one bit of technical info on the cell have you? PPE's, SPE's, EIB, DMAC. Maybe you should find out how all of those work together it might help you.



You likely haven't kept an interest in the HD vs. BD war and the way the momentum is shifting at a rapidly increasing pace towards BD. If you had been you would know a little more about them. BTW, I saw a comment about maybe HD viewers are renting instead of buying unlike BD owners. Sorry to rain on that one but I rent BD through Netflix. It's a great service and then I don't waste my money on movies that suck. Chances are a few other people use Netflix for BD to play on their PS3's too! I honestly do not care which one wins. If it's HD I will gladly buy a player. I don't believe that is how the pieces will fall, though.



I used to be a primarily PC gamer also and still do play more than half of my games on my PC. But unlike you I see a whole lot of potential from this machine and they haven't broke the surface yet with what it can do.



So why don't you spend a few days researching all of the things related to these consoles and stop worrying about what you now think are awesome games because even future 360 games will improve from their current state. Take my word for it! This 7th generation of consoles is about far more than just games!



You will see. Trust me!

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# pes playerGuest 2007-05-14 19:56
i've played pes for the like half of my life, and what really matters is playing with friends. each version do have improvements, and that's what makes the new gen better than its predecessor, especially gameplay and value added to the newer version.



btw IMO (flame me if u want) the most important thing for a console are the games developed for it. without them, they're just accessories.

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# umGuest 2007-05-14 19:58
isnt the term "confirmed" a bit of an oxymoron here? i mean, if its a rumor, then its not confirmed, and its confirmed then its not a rumor.

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# umGuest 2007-05-14 20:05
that and the games almost a year old....

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# is it ADHD?Guest 2007-05-14 20:53
Every thread on this webiste goes something like this...



1. Item of news

2. Hmm, another reason X is better!

3. X!? get bent! Y kicks a**

4. No X does!

5. No Y does!

6. No X does! X is better because of figures that I quote

7. No Y is better because X is rubbish and your a Fanboy!



Can we perhaps just talk about the news aticle at hand without getting into a whos better contest.



I agree, when a game is basically ported across it does look rubbish, Pro Evo, Hitman, Godfather, all victims of being rushed and coming out like a pensioner at a kiss concert. And also, storage does make for a nasty issue, BUT, is it not about PROGRAMMING. textures take up alot of space yes, but sureley to make faces you dont need many TEXTURES. I cant tell you how many characters I've made look like me from the character creation screens on various games. All you need is basic backgrounds and the rest lies in programming.



Thus that should help on the storage front.



Anyone got something constructive to say?

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# ExactlyOutsider 2007-05-14 22:03
It will be better, no doubt about it. The same reason why the Ps2 version of PES 6 was better than X360 version (go check it out). Had more content, clubs, modes etc. It seems that one dual layer dvd is not enough for a full next gen PES game, with next gen graphics, textures and all the things a true next gen football game should have... So some compromises are inevitable.

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# could get a better a rumorGuest 2007-05-15 02:36
Don't you fanboys find it strange that some guy khows

more abour what's going on square than he does

on konami...

Just a rumoro t bring the spirit up to ps3 owners...

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# jealousy...Guest 2007-05-15 04:30
Its the xbox 360 thats given everyone less game for their buck... on GTA... does that mean it has to happen on every game? damn its just a soccer game.. so what if it ends of better on the ps3...

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# not a ps3 bash but realityGuest 2007-05-15 04:47
folding junkie, i never said that ps3's predecessors were unsucessful, im saying that ps3 is. you can go into any electronics store store from florida to maine and ask them if there is any ps3 available and they'll tell you they can't get rid of them.

your need to grap reality and face the fact that the hype that you were told is not true, you dont need to lie to yourself in order to justify that 700 purchase (599 for console, and 49 for controller and tax). i guess i can empathize, i bought a tag heuer kirium, ya know the one that tiger wears and it was way too much, i kick myself in the ass about it all the time. but i move on

your right though ps3 could be in a slump, and it has major potential, but damn xbox is selling better a year after all its hype has subsided from 2005 and the wii, sh^+* you cant get your hands on one.

what you fail to realize is that consumers are the judge not the people who know all the stats and figures of cpu's and stuff. bottomline is that if ps3 doesnt sell lots of units its going to die, and right now its future doesnt look good

360 is third in sales for the year right now almost 100k units over ps3, and thats a year after, that tells you ps3 is not selling

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# XBOX360 fans R DUMBGuest 2007-05-15 06:14
To think, all u idiots sayin its all gd with DVD9. lmao. Face it. Xbox360 is the 1 goin obsolete with its aging DVD player. Now thats as close to a dreamcast u can get. Nxt few years is trouble wen compressing games jus wont be enough.



GTA 4 and beyond is gna suck on 360. havin to restrict the freedom for developers to stick to 9GB

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# 360 in trouble(althoug h i do blame SONY)Guest 2007-05-15 06:54
To think, all u idiots sayin its all gd with DVD9. lmao. Face it. Xbox360 is the 1 goin obsolete with its aging DVD player. Now thats as close to a dreamcast u can get. Nxt few years is trouble wen compressing games jus wont be enough.



GTA 4 and beyond is gna suck on 360. havin to restrict the freedom for developers to stick to 9GB. GTA4 is only newer version of GTA3 not San Andreas, that means if we expect another 2 more GTAs, then more space is required 4 stuff like all aircrafts, bigger island. IM RIGHT UR WRONG



Well Xbox needed the early release anyway otherwise they cud've had the time 2 chose a HD Disc to stick to 4 their games.



I blame sony for backin the expensiv blu-ray

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# Zettrane! Again!Folding Junkie! 2007-05-15 07:54
I understand reality. I understand economies. I understand a lot of different things. One of which is that the PS3 is an expensive machine. Very expensive! It will take time to saturate the market with PS3 consoles. It will happen, though.



Ponder this for a second. How many 360 Elites are selling vs. the number of PS3's. The gap is not be nearly as large.



BTW, it doesn't require a degree in nuclear physics to understand why the Wii, given it's unique gameplay and much lower price, would sell more than BOTH of the more expensive consoles. Right now at least! HDTV in the majority of households is still not here. But as the market gets flooded with more and more expensive HDTV's the PS3 will begin to look like a more affordable purchase next to those expensive sets. Many of which will by then be HDMI and HDCP compliant with 1080p resolution. Have you seen how many 1080p sets are on the market already. Prices are dropping by the month. Soon the truth will start to be realized. Until then, have fun with your XBOX, it's a cool machine. It's just not the one that I want. Nor will I waste my time crying about how much I hate it and how much it sucks.



BTW, sorry about your watch. That was a waste of money!

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# next-gensGuest 2007-05-15 18:57
each one of the consoles had their own strengths and weakness, their manufacturers too. for e.g, the marketing strategy applied by nintendo is by far the most successful this time, by exploiting on new ventures and market shares. but this is not comparing apple and apple if we wanted to compare it with muscle systems, i.e. 360 and ps3. IMHO the games are the ones that can truly unlock the true power. one simple example is the FFXII and Shadow of Colossus for ps2, where the game devs created something unimaginable for the machine.



although i do get frustrated by ps3 team for making such an immature decision by using the blu-ray without further market research. if they wanted to change the luxury status to commodity for the ps3, then they better do something about the pricing. of course the cost benefit analysis, such as CVP need to be taken into consideration, but without asking what the market really wants, then all will be in vain.



as for 360, the online play is one of the well structured so far for this generation, probably because of the infrastructure and experience gained for its predecessor. but if 360 really want to gain more market share, they have to give more attractive offer to the gamedevs, and become more open to new entries in the game developer's industry.



And to close the argument, IMHO the PES for ps2 is still the best, not for the graphics and eye candy, but the gameplay itself.

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# pro7Guest 2007-05-22 09:55
i will be VERY suprised if the game takes up 18gb i wud b very amazed if thy did this. the only way i can see it happening is if the put litraly every team and stadium in the world and i really dont think anybody could do that .

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# PES6Guest 2007-06-01 04:36
I own a 360 and have pro evo 6 and it is *****. There are tactics missing and you cannot save your replays. The ps2 version is better. I love my 360 but i ain't buying pro evo on it again. This will be the reason why i purchase a ps3.

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# coolGuest 2007-06-06 00:27
Wow.............

One game actually looks better on the BS3

than the Xbox 360. That game happen to be a soccer game. Now that is amazing........ And not just better, 3 times better.

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# ......Guest 2007-06-14 09:54
i have xbox and i really like xbox but graffics of ps3 is better than xbox and pro evolution soccer 7 is three times better than xbox

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