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Rockstar quiet on Grand Theft Auto IV, QJ speaks up

Posted Mar 30, 2007 at 8:54AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: playstation 3 updates, PS2, Rockstar Games, YouTube
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Yesterday's release of the Grand Theft Auto IV trailer was very much anticipated. Avid GTA fans will have noticed that the release brought down Rockstar's website, as well as other large gaming sites such as GameTrailers and GameVideos. Granted, our servers were a little loaded and some people couldn't get through, but luckily we found a YouTube video of the trailer just in time to save you guys from the awful wait.

So what came of this trailer? Well, it was amazing graphically, representing the city of New York in amazing detail. However, the developers at Rockstar Games have decided to keep hush about the trailer and have not enlightened us on anything we had the pleasure of viewing.

Luckily the internet has come to the rescue, with the trailer picked to pieces by eagle-eyed fans. In order to prevent confusion we'll only post the fact and let you speculate amongst yourselves! Here's what the trailer tells us:
  • GTA IV is based loosely on New York, but is in fact the Liberty City (maybe the state, not just the city) you remember from GTA III. You can find the words "Liberty City" plastered on a docked tanker in the trailer, a ferry and the infamous "LCPD" squad cars in the trailer.
  • The vehicles look post-2000, including BMW and sports car lookalikes
  • GTA IV ditches the old Renderware engine for Rockstar Games' superior Table Tennis RAGE engine. A Rockstar representative told Gamespot: "We can confirm that all footage in the trailer was captured directly from 720p gameplay running real time in our Rage engine on a next-gen gaming console."
  • An in-game ad on the trailer shows a sign which says "Visit Vice City - $300". Is this evidence that we will be able to visit the city or just a gimmick? For the next-generation GTA, we'd bet on it being the former. Will it resemble the PS2/PSP Vice City?
  • Birds, pedestrians and drivers have advanced physics in the trailer, for example, a driver can be seen adjusting a rear view mirror. It's the small things that count.
  • Finally, will the Russian chap be the main protagonist?
All of these points can be confirmed by watching the trailer, however we suggest that you view the HD trailer on Rockstar's website rather than the YouTube version if you want to be able to see all of these. Rockstar estimates that GTA IV will be shipped on October 19 for both Xbox 360 and PS3.



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# ok thenGuest 2007-03-30 10:13
Well to start off, the trailer was not very well done, and is on an X360. You have to do more research. I decrypted the file and took the frames/ps and found a few thing in the sky...



-Um.. PS3 has better graphics, and Wii has better games.

-The world has voted PS3 to win Console War by '09

-Blu-Ray is the future, the capacity and speed outwrited the X360s , 200$ atachement by about 6times and the Wiis normal by 12 times

-Wii sports did NOT outsell all of the PS3 games. If you were any smart, the release of Motorstorm and Oblivion IV have just about conquered the Wiis all time record.

-OHH and since the PSP is getting a new hardware this year, start of '08, that means 2 years as well Jakazz! Oh and the PS3 will not have to be upgraded since its already at the highest point of gaming and the games are at only 25-30% power so suk on it Microsoft!

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# Oh, for the love of..Guest 2007-03-30 10:27
Im a sony fanboy to but quit japping about the consolewars and enjoy the game. Its not about microsoft or sony now.



ITS ABOUT ROCKSTAR RULES!!!!^^

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# omg you retardGuest 2007-03-30 10:30
^

you are a retard, wii sports comes free with the wii, so you would expect that more people would have copies of it than ps3 games

the ps3 has only just come out, the xbox 360 has been out for well over a year, you just wait until about a years time when developers will have been working with the ps3 longer and will be able to produce better looking games than on 360 because of its superior hardware. if you compare the ps3's launch games to the 360's launch games, the ps3's games are mostly better, and have better graphics.

And by the way, thats not a good thing if microsoft are bringing out a console that soon, because that just means they won't have spent much time on it.

Next time, do some research before flaming a console that you can't afford and not actually knowing anything else about other consoles. i think that you are just annoyed becuase you wasted your money on a buggy 360 and you couldn't save up enough money to afford a ps3

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# ok thenGuest 2007-03-30 11:04
well sam your an idiot. You call the 360 buggy why? The majority of games for ps3 dont look better then launch titles for 360 theyre about the same. As for the whole gives the devs a year with the hardware, actually if you werent a delusional sony fan boy youd know that the dev kits for the ps3 were sent out BEFORE 360 dev kits were sent out. Actually developers have had 3-4 months more with ps3 kits then 360 and the games that go multi-platform still look and play noticeably better on a 360. The fact is the ps3 is overall a bunk machine, you have a the cell processor which is much better at pure data crunching or something like folding then it is a good gaming chip, the graphics chip is based on a old nvidia chip (same archit. at the 7900 doesnt even have unified shadders..), then they force you to buy a blu-ray player which jumps the cost of the system to 600bucks. Ontop of all that sonys tools arent worth a damn, wanna know why xbox games stopped being made as fast as they did? The 360 tools are MORE intuitive then regular xbox tools, same cant be said for sonys tools. I think its time sony fan boys pull there heads out of the asses and actually look at the facts, or atleast listen to some of the smarter people in the gaming industry(Carmac k, Newell, and many others) and stop your stupid blind faith in sony.

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# Wii gamesGuest 2007-03-30 11:43
Wii games are CRAP.



Look at these pathetic scores:



http://uk.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type+reviews+platform+1031+tag+subnav;reviews



PS3 owns it:



http://uk.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type+reviews+platform+1028+tag+subnav;reviews



Stop spreading falsified rubbish

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# ...Guest 2007-03-30 12:17
WTH? You keep smoking that shi'...

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# calm downGuest 2007-03-30 12:43
bro, this has nothing to do with comparing ps3 and xbox 360, will you turn down your gay fanboy talk for just one moment and let the sweet GTA4 trailer sink in. I didnt look in the comments for console comparisons, I don't care what console is better, as long as I have one of them I'm good.



back on topic now, I really don't want it to be liberty city because I've already played liberty city stories and it will seem unchanged in some ways. I happened to pause the game and catch a glimpse of the name of a building "Liberty Tree"



It would be nice if it were in a real town

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# Stfu Fanboys and MarksGuest 2007-03-30 13:15
Can you guys please shut the ***** up, The Game is coming on the PS3 and 360, from judging with previous game ports that have come on both the 360 and PS3, 360 has better outcomes in terms of graphics.



But Graphics dont count, alot of people still play Super Mario on the NES, People still play Tekken 2 on the Playstation and People play Runescape when theres a more " Grapically Superior Game " called World of Warcraft.



In the end you guys should be happy about this, Grand Theft Auto games have always delivered and i cant wait for the Release down here ( us Aussies will get it later on than you guys ).

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# The main character is not Russian at all!Guest 2007-03-30 14:05
He looks like an Arab guy. Not at all like a Russian.

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# YeahGuest 2007-03-30 14:43
but he doesn't sound like an Arab. I suppose you can be Arabic and sound Russian, but it isn't likely. Accept Russian until Rockstar confirms something



LOL I was on some message boards and this one guy said he thought the character sounded, get this, French or German. How stupid can you get? Guy must not have ever heard a French/German guy speak in his life, lol

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# .neok182 2007-03-30 15:40
The main character is most likely eastern european, most of them look somewhat arab but have russian accents.



As for being able to visit vice city, i kinda doubt it. But with this game being liberty again. wouldn't surprise me of the next GTA ends up going back go VC.

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# Not a Fanboy but...Guest 2007-03-30 17:07
Not trying to be a Fanboy but Microsoft annouced GTA IV will be 360 Exclusive.. same day they annouced the Elite...

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# .Guest 2007-03-30 17:34
I just hope that the restriction's of a DVD9 won't hold the game down. If it was made to take advantage of a 50GB Blu-ray disc it could be a whole country. Hopefully they do that and give the 360 multiple discs or make them download the rest.

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# IGuest 2007-03-30 17:47
I don't think it is exclusive but hey by the time gta comes out 360 will have sold 15 million by then and if rockstar did do it exclusively they would still make a profit with plenty left over they would sell about 5 - 6 million copies, maybe more and then there is the pc version so they would still make a ton of cash.

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# GTA IV is not a 360 exclusive and will not be port!!Guest 2007-03-30 18:22
If you know anything about the company, THEY ALWAYS DEVELOP ON A HIGH END SYSTEM THEN SCALE THE GAME DOWN FOR EACH CONSOLE!!!!!! They also announced that each system will have episode content for download. There is no exclusives to the game, none, zip, and I am tired of old school rumors that were shot down when M$ claimed the bs waaaaay back!!!!

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# How many timesGuest 2007-03-30 18:27
How many times does it have to be said, with compression dvd9 is not a restriction at all, here is how it works, its called compression and decompression, to break it down in a simple way the 360 uses the same compresson techniques PC developers have been using for years, On the PC developers will make the game and then use a compression tool to fit the data on dvd9 then when you buy the game you will have to install the game on a harddrive this is when decompression happens and the game is installed on your harddrive and then you can play the game with little to no load times, now on the 360 developers do the same thing but instead of the game being installed on the harddrive the 360 will load the first levels files you are going to play into the systems 512MB ram, there will be load times unlike the pc, but once the game loads it will still play smooth. A quick example, a developer may have a game that is 20 gigs with current compression technology he can compress that game to under 7 gigs maybe more, remember dvd9 is 8.5 gigs, and compression technologies are constantly improving so in the future even bigger games than what I just mentioned could fit on dvd9, without compression xbox 360 would have maybe hddvd or a bluray drive. So there you have it that is the simple version of how it all works, so dvd9 is just fine for games this generation, maybe next generation dvd9 will be inadequate.

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# but you are an idiotGuest 2007-03-30 18:42
Lol no they didn't. Don't you think something about that would be on their homepage? If you're not trying to be an ass, someone gave you some very wrong information

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# How many times does it also have to be saidGuest 2007-03-30 18:55
that a 50GB Blu-Ray disc will never be completely filled with real information, EVER? Apparently one too many, if people had any sense they'd know it'll never happen.



It's not hard to figure out. DVD9 games (8.9 GBs, and they almost always don't even fill that) already cost too much make. Unless people would be willing to pay $100 for games like Kutaragi joked (or was he?), which they aren't, many people think $60 is too much, games probably will not go over 9 GBs. Not in this console generation. It would simply take too much money and time to make. Get your head out of the clouds

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# ...Guest 2007-03-30 20:13
Sucks that there isn't a release date for the REAL next-gen system yet.

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# blue-ray does matter and in the same time it doesn'tGuest 2007-03-30 21:34
Blue-ray does matter but mostly for CG footage and sound. CG in 1080i and 1080p take up a lot of disc space, look at Blue Dragon its on multiple disc because of CG. Well sound is a lot better when its not compressed. GTA never used CG and

sound isn't that much of a big deal. So, it still can be a whole country. I have a 360 and a ps3(yes we do exist)and I like both of them but I'm playing my 360 more because it has better games. Sooner or later there will be better games on ps3. Neither system should be bashed this mush. So calm down.

Grand Theft Auto IV is going to be the $#%& and every Knows it.

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# blue-ray does matter and in the same time it doesn'tGuest 2007-03-30 21:36
Blue-ray does matter but mostly for CG footage and sound. CG in 1080i and 1080p take up a lot of disc space, look at Blue Dragon its on multiple disc because of CG. Well sound is a lot better when its not compressed. GTA never used CG and

sound isn't that much of a big deal. So, it still can be a whole country. I have a 360 and a ps3(yes we do exist)and I like both of them but I'm playing my 360 more because it has better games. Sooner or later there will be better games on ps3. Neither system should be bashed this mush. So calm down.

Grand Theft Auto IV is going to be the $#%& and everyone knows it.

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# No, it can't be a "whole country"Guest 2007-03-30 22:21
Sure, with the right compression a country may be able to fit on a DVD, but what you are failing to realize is that someone would have to MAKE THE COUNTRY. Do you understand how much that would cost? And how long it would take? It's not going to happen for a LONG time, get real

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# kfdGuest 2007-03-31 03:47
A 50gig BD disc can hold up to only 44gig, since the hardware and other stuff must be taken, and a 30gig HDDVD can hold up to 28, since it takes less memory. But in all effect, the BD can store and play better quality and capacity with no doubt.



Why?



Because of its format. Sure you can compress and then decompress, but if it was already decompressed, you can put the disc in (1st time) and play on the console faster!



So overall, i would choose BD for games, but since BD is a litle slower with video, i would go DVD plain for video!



I dont like the HDDVD rip off crap, its a plain dvd with a little enhanced capacity and HD woopty *****!

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# shut the hell upGuest 2007-03-31 06:08
all the ps3 games look better than the 360 launch titles you moron!! How does a game PLAY better on a 360?? Since anyone saying that one looks better is just smoking the pipe. Either you can't make a judgement because they are so close, or you're high. But PLAY better? I won't touch a fuc king xbox controller, the playstation controller is perfect, so how can anything play better on the piece of crap xbox. How the fu ck can you call the ps3 bunk with all the features it's number 1 at?? Please in your good logic, explain what the fuc k a good "gaming" chip is? You do understand that all games are is data right?? You know that in a computer, everything is fuc king DATA right. SO THE BEST DATA CRUNCHING MACHINE IS THE BEST GAMING CHIP YOU FU CKING ASS HOLE.

Shut up about the RSX chip, it's obvious that it's perfect for this generation of gaming. Everything is an "old" chip once it's released, including your now two generations old xbox 360.

Nobody was "forced" to buy a bluray player. EVERYONE with a ps3 wants one. That's right, EVERYONE. That's why we pay the money for it. If you are so stupid as to think that microsoft won't be coming up with a bluray drive, I don't even understand how you can comprehend words enough to type them here. And eventually YOU will HAVE to buy one to support the next level of gaming on your precious xbox 360..

And honestly, you have never seen an xbox "tools" or sony "tools" so shut the fu ck up and follow your own advice. Let the smarter people talk about it kid. Obvious that you get all your information from a forum, and you have no education of your own.

Stop your stupid blind faith in microsoft and in your own judgement, which is flawed. You too, should be beaten with stones in the street.

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# WHY?Guest 2007-03-31 07:14
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# Jon wtf are you taling aboutGuest 2007-03-31 07:26
slower video on Blue Ray. Blue Ray players have better processors and the lasers read data faster. A 2X blue ray player is faster than a 10X DVD player. Do you own a blue ray player, probably not, because if you own a PS3 or Blue Ray Player, you will KNOW that blue rays load quick as lightning! Another point, it holds 49.5 gigs and next year they will come out with 100 gig storage.

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# @common sense guyGuest 2007-03-31 09:30
actually to be honest I MYSELF have not used sonys tools, i do though work for a small independent dev(single cellien studios), and we have had the the 360 kits for a awhile and there dandy. I do have a couple of friends for work for the company "Rainbow Studios" whose parent company does indeed have the sony tools and from what they've said ontop of numerous other sonys tools are *****, face it. As for your whole games are all data, chips that can process the most data are the best gaming chip....seriously the cell does provide some very hefty power, its just not suited for gaming applications, only 512k l2 cache lol pretty gimp, non-symmetrical cores? Honestly not that the 360s chip is super great either they just have to tools to harness what power it has. Look at the MANY MANY comparison articles round the net and just look at the diff between ps3 and 360 games(fight night, low res textures, lower poly models on people in the background)And yes games do play better with the 360 con, just look at the design for the ps3 controller, it looks to me like sony desperately wanted to change its design but when they couldn't think of anything then went right back to a 10year old controller. Im sorry but any controller that when anyone picks it up there hands instantly go to the d-pad is dated, I mean weve only been playing full 3d games since what? Since sony introduced it and now there lagging behind in terms of controls. As for sony not MAKING you buy a blu-ray drive, tell me where i can buy a 400-450 version of ps3 without it. All the devs and the majority of the half-smart consumers know sony included blu-ray(and to a lesser extent cell) simply because they want to dominate media they've been at it for years and the games market is one of the industrys sony sees they can push this stuff on consumers . If the majority of the top devs are either OPENLY saying the extra storage space is pretty much useless, or just staying quiet and porting games that were supposed to be ps3 "exclusives" to 360 (capcom)its kinda tell tale sign. So please try as hard as you can to pull sonys tit out of your mouth and open your eyes you dumb *****.

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# calme downGuest 2007-03-31 15:58
Its hard for me to see someone thats makes games, hate a system. Maybe not like it, but hating it is a little out there. Xbox360 is a great system but to say that ps3 isn't next gen is a little stupid. The main point is that Grand Theft Auto IV is going to be a great game on both systems.

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# Um...Guest 2007-04-01 12:09
The Atari Jaguar?

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# a 12 year old with only one friend named PS3Guest 2007-04-02 00:38
I'm not even reading your post because it's written by a retard with serious anger issues.



XBOX 360 has better graphics and it's been proven. Yes proven. Now STFU.



"I won't touch a fuc king xbox controller"



That's exactly why you'll never know.

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