Retail PS3 HDD decrypted *Update*

Posted Feb 25, 2009 at 8:06PM by Mabie A. Listed in: PS3 Tags: Google, Sony
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Thanks to tipster Tcraw77813 for this big fish! Looks like somebody has successfully decrypted the retail PS3's HDD. Ladies and gents, meet DemonHades. This is a screenshot of his post on his site:

DemonHades' PS3 decryption - Image 1 


And according to him (thanks to Google translate),

Well, to give more details: The key is 512 bytes it s a sha1-4096 (512bytes by sector) the key is xored To be clear it wasn t a simple xor how some are speculating (we have already located a self) Still no mention if it can be reproduce on all PS3 s or not Or even how to accomplish it.


Hmm.. hmmm.. indeed. We're gonna have to oil up our PS3 homebrew blog once more. If this hack is exploited to its fullest potential, we just might see homebrew on another one of Sony's consoles blossom yet again. Maybe.

We'll hold off on the celebrations for now. Instead, we'll be keeping a close watch on this development. Stay tuned.



*Update* There you have it. An update on this story: it's fake. See post here.

 
 
 

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by eaferrari24 - 2009-02-25 15:46
» !!!

this is quite an exciting accomplishment!



lookin forward to seeing where this goes



btw THANK YOU QJ AND TWITTTER

by steve_723 - 2009-02-25 16:04
» ...

I really hope that this comes a far way



I would love to see what king of homebrew people can make with the power of the ps3 just look at some of the good homebrew for the psp

by IIVIIOJICA - 2009-02-25 16:46
» ...

HELL YEA!!!!!!

by ElfyEikkal - 2009-02-25 17:50
» oh! finally some news.

i actually thought the PS3 homebrew market is dead. well. looks like its still running.

by avatar76 - 2009-02-25 17:56
» COOL!

Yeah I'd buy a PS3 if it gets homebrew that runs on as powerful a platform as this.

by DannyDanger - 2009-02-25 18:31
» I know I'm getting ahead of myself but...

Just think of it, IRSHELL on the PSP...

by kimdrummel - 2009-02-25 18:38
» hehe

Yeah just imagine a fully functional Dreamcast emulator.

Shenmue on the PS3. aaahhhhhh :)

by Garetjaxx - 2009-02-25 18:52
» wut

IRSHELL is on the PSP...

by PS2GT - 2009-02-25 19:48
» ok um...

so what does decrypting the hard disc drive have to do with homebrew running on the ps3 cuz its just the hard drive? still dont mean playing ps2 games on the 40gb ps3 and its fraternal twins 80 and 160(singstar doesnt count) cuz thats obviously a code saying ps2 disc inserted dont play it haha sucker lol.

by s0nlxaftrsh0ck - 2009-02-25 20:06
» hn...

if this means i can get my pc to recognize my PS3 hard drive this will be the most awesome news seeing as how i have to return my PS3 soon for repairs >_>;. So i won't lose my data. Pleaaaaase tell me i'd be able to at least do that..

by Azuman - 2009-02-25 22:16
» Um....

I don't understand the HDD Decryption thing, Anyone with heart cares to explain?

by Henkibojj - 2009-02-25 23:56
» -

The only reason I would like to have homebrew on the PS3 for is emulators. SNES on the PS3, how awesome wouldn't that be?



Plus fixing some of the interface issues which Sony never address. The inability to sort the music from a band after the tracks' release year is crap. Seriously, wouldn't it be great if I could sort the ~150 songs of Metallica after their production year instead of what the name of their ALBUM is?!

by yoshi314 - 2009-02-26 00:44
» well

i don't have a ps3, but i guess that the entire hdd is encrypted with that key.



breaking the encryption will allow to figure out the filesystem ps3 uses for data storage, and maybe eventually allow to install custom software onto it, that xmb will allow to start. (yeah, wishful thinking).



well it's a first step. it's said that some newer ps3 models keep a portion of firmware on their hdd. accessing it in its installed form might reveal something interesting, although i think it's also encrypted post-install.

by xche78x - 2009-02-26 01:29
» PS3 Linux

does most of the things you want right now.

by HIMFan - 2009-02-26 03:01
» In response to...

Yoshi314, the part about putting custom firmwares on there would only work for the 40 gig, seeing how its the only one that actually installs the firmware to the harddrive. Otherwise, we would be able to put a custom firmware on an SD Card or something, just like downloading an official firmware from a PC and putting it on a memory card and putting it into the PS3.



And to Henkibojj, you can fix that yourself with the music, turn your music sort to one that puts them into folders, All Music won't work, and then for each cd find it's songs and on each individual song press triangle and go up to information and you can change it's name from like a date to the CD title. Granted, this takes a lot of work, but it's better than waiting on an unencrypted harddrive just to sort your music properly.

by Techni - 2009-02-26 03:10
» Oh great

This ***** wants to ruin PS3 like homebrew did to game sales on PSP

by darknaiyo - 2009-02-26 03:33
» .....

no......... homebrew didn't ruin the psp, piracy did, but now new psp are unable to put custom firmware

by stevenb789 - 2009-02-26 03:36
» nice

they located a self file? so if im right if they can replace that self file with another and the ps3 can run it there is a big chance of homebrew and (maybe) a custom firmware.



can't wait!!! imagine all kind of emulators on ps3, maybe they will ever menage to install a xbox emulator(probab ly not) hehe

by Silver-Tiger - 2009-02-26 03:52
» ....

Yeah, except that Linux doesn't give you access to the GPU, which is just one of the most important things at all...

by hush404 - 2009-02-26 04:55
» this is nothing.

Honestly, people are freaking out... and it's really nothing. Their claim proves only that they got into the HDD, which is like a 1/800393954055th of a step needed to even think about getting unauthorized code running on the system.



Anyone thinking this is the answer to homebrew on the PS3 is sorely mistaken.



That and Sony could simply change things up to exclude this way of accessing date on the HDD and boom, back to square 0.

by yoshi314 - 2009-02-26 06:37
» your're right

"the part about putting custom firmwares on there would only work for the 40 gig, "



of course. but getting 40gig model figured out would be a good start. i think it would be the best target for hackers right now, when the decryption method for hdd goes public.

by Navani - 2009-02-26 06:58
» lol

But this is a big step! Maybe we'll all learn something good from this and it will help us in the future. If emulators could run on the PS3.. Man, if they get N64 up on it, four player Mario Kart 64, four player Goldeneye64..

by bmxadan - 2009-02-26 08:03
» and i hope sony bans ps3s!!!

seriously ps3 homebrew would be great but i wouldn't want to deal with all the cheat devices there would be and ruin the *****ing games

by yoshi314 - 2009-02-26 08:36
» it's better than nothing

it's better than nothing. besides, at this point sony cannot make any major changes to ps3. it's already been a few years since release and rewriting all that software for e.g. alternate hdd filesystem or different security scheme would be bad.



sony might change encryption keys, or the encryption itself. but not much more.



first steps are always small and seem insignificant. but they are better than nothing at all.



now we can hopefully get to the unpacked firmware files (at least on those 40gig ps3's) even if they are still encrypted, and possible make another small step forward from there.



maybe it will be possible to e.g install debug fw on those retail 40gb units, by copying it from debug model's hdd in the future. that would be one major step forward.

by damonous - 2009-02-26 12:53
» You can already backup your HDD!

I'm not sure what you're getting at. You can ALREADY flawlessly backup + restore your PS3 hard-drive to ANY USB external hard drive. ....Using the legitimate 'Backup' and 'Restore' features easily-accessible from the PS3 XMB ('Backup Utility' and 'Restore PS3 System' under 'System Settings'). I've done it many times, as well as probably thousands or millions of other people. Unlike backup/restore tools on PC's (which can often vary in completeness), the PS3 restore function is flawless. If you're doing it on the same hardware system, it's completely transparent. If you're going from one system to an entirely different PS3, you may need to add you PS3 system accounts back, and activate the system under 'Account Management-->System Activation' .....but that's it! ---And no need to wait for the pirates to crack the PS3!

by damonous - 2009-02-26 13:10
» And homebrew won't give you access to the GPU, either

Unless I'm mistaken, PSP homebrew can only access the GPU by running cracked versions of legitimate UMD software. But, actual homebrew programs do NOT utilize the full power of the GPU. I suppose I could be mistaken, but I don't think that cracking the encryption would suddenly magically reveal the entire Cell architecture and graphics pipeline to do-it-yourself-ers.

by emaster101 - 2009-02-26 16:19
» FAKE!!!!

Headlines on other sites are reading: "Hackers decrypt retail PS3 HDD", "Retail PS3 HDD decrypted" and "UPDATE: We have confirmation that this decryption was done on a RETAIL PS3 (not Test/Debug)".



They are ALL wrong. We have looked into this over the past 24 hours extensively, and needless to say - our first suspicion was correct (which is why it was labeled as a rumor). Simply put - its a fake.



The files are real, but they were dumped from a TEST PS3 (old news), from its /dev_flash (Thanks NDT!) folder which is 100% accessable with a TEST.



Furthermore, the explanation of the "encryption" was all wrong (see my earlier post). On top of that, the real research done was 'borrowed' (to put it nicely) by DemonHades from the source... namely knightsolidus, who has been doing research with the PS3 HDD.



He made some interesting findings (hitting a similiar roadblock that we did, but we are now working together to try to get past it), however, currently no part of the hard disk drive has been decrypted.



Again, our hopes were dashed with yet another fake... what's worse is other sites reporting it as legit misleading their users, and not even taking the time to look into it themselves!



Special THANKS to idone, knightsolidus and NDT for taking the time to uncover the truth... and although there are no bad feelings towards DemonHades it would be appreciated if he came clean with his users so we all can move forward working together.



From URL: http://www.ps3news.com/

by yoshi314 - 2009-02-26 19:14
» oh well

"Hackers decrypt retail PS3 HDD"



well, i guess they meant "retail hdd", not "retail ps3". clever wording

by stevenb789 - 2009-02-26 22:41
» fake

look @ other websites they all say the hdd decription was fake

by NathanDrake - 2009-02-27 04:12
» meh

Pass. Barely touch my DC as it is. I own both Shenmues but never could stand to play them for very long.

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