Resident Evil 5 for PS3 has 5 GB mandatory install; demo now available |
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I know hard drive space is a precious commodity to you download junkies. But what has to be, has to be. When Resident Evil 5 comes out, PS3 gamers have to sacrifice 5 GB of your hard drive to for the game's mandatory install. Ok, it sucks, specially for those with smaller HDDs, but it's Resident Evil 5. It's frak-friggin-tastic. It's worth the space.
The info comes from the official PS3 box art, which also says that the max resolution is 720p.
But you know what really sucks though? What sucks when you finally get your hands on the game, rush home with utmost haste, and then have to wait 20 minutes for it install. Well, Capcom did say they were trying to avoid the install woes Devil May Cry 4 had, so hopefully we won't have to wait that long.
In other news, the demo is now available on PSN. Yes. I delayed you with my blathering and ranting. I am evil. Go. Download it. Now!
Via nextgamer.nl
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Not that it matters to much because of the way Sony handles HDD upgrades. (AKA they full support 3rd party HDDs and even give you guides on how to swap them).
I am more curious how the lower end PS3/XBOXs will handle it.
1) Obviously if there is a 5gb install on the PS3, the 20g models are hurt the hardest, but its maybe $100 to upgrade to a 500gb hdd. Takes maybe 30seconds, a few hours if you want to copy over all your files to the new HDD.
2) If the install is only for the Ps3 and not the xbox, I would be willing to bet its because the processing load on the xbox is much smaller (lower resolution graphics and sound / more compression)
3) A 5 gb instal already lets you know its going to be atleast 3 DVD9 in length or MASSIVELY compressed for the xbox.
4) On the off shot the 360 does have an install, it will probably smaller (2gb). I haven't really kept up on the 360 version vs ps3 so I am not sure if this info is already out or not.
Nope both have the same installation size the only difference is Xbox is faster.
GTA IV Takes 6 gb in xbox and PS3 (I Think)
it doesn't take 6gb for ps3, its 4.3gb for ps3, and 6gb for 360, and ps3 is faster not 360. btw, this demo lags on the ps3 version, and not on the 360
The 360 has a faster read speed than PS3 because it uses DVD drive and not bluray. Hence the need to read the data from hard drive.
You are kidding right? You think blu-ray has a slow ready speed then dvd-9? Based on what?
http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/
ps3 - 72 mb/s
Xbox 360 - http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=6060
You can easily see that you are totally full of crap.
HD media REQUIRES more data/s transfer then dvd9, and to think that you would have slower read speads is down right silly.
it does not matter how much space it takes up if the online section as as Bad as the demo or they do not sort out the online section of the demo they will not have many people playing it HAZE had a better demo and we all know haw bad thet game was!
Yeah, the 360 does in fact read faster. The disc spins at a higher frequency than normal, thus reading faster. But it makes the games scratch like hell if you touch the thing when its reading....God thats annoying.
to clarify some things:
Blu-Ray has indeed faster MBits/sec., BUT the PS3 is only able to spin the BD at 2x, which is approx. 72 Mbits per second.
The Xbox 360 on the other hand uses DVDs, but it spins the DVD at 12x speed, which makes approx. 130 Mbits per second.
That does not necessary mean the Xbox 360 has faster reading speed, because this speed can only be achieved at the border of the DVD. In the middle, the speed is going down, but in general, the reading speed of the Xbox 360 should be faster.
Hate to say it, but that are the facts.
Fallout 3 also has a 5GB install. But you don't even notice it happens.
In the media's opinion (general opinion. Not mine, I haven't had a single problem with my PS3 version, though my 360 one has had a few glitches) Fallout 3 played better on 360 than PS3. It also has a 5GB install and it's on one disc.
yeah xbox 360 read compressed dvd data faster but it cant read full hd uncompressed bluray disk with full hd 7.1 surround sound at the same time
plus theres a lot of things u can do on ps3 that xbox cannot do like swap the hard drive for for a 500 gb so a five gb install is not a problem
But the uncompressed data is what takes the PS3 so long to read along with the slow speed of the drive. But once it's on the HDD, in the end it can make the game experience better with faster load times.
I wish MS let you use a standard HDD instead of those overpriced 120/60GB drives.
i just feel sorry for those 360 players who dont have a harddrive and the ones restricted to 120 gb and the 360 owners without hdmi and the ones who have to pay for online... so i will get the full re5 expirience at no extra cost on blu ray. plus pray you dont get the red ring of death the week before it drops thamn thats 33% of you guys
have u played uncharted it loads once and thats it thats how install works on ps3 when done right!!! but when you get a multi platform game or a port then u get stupid load times like every other game out there
I get the feeling that you 2 are the same person. Dude, just chill out
the blu ray is able to spin the BD 4x or more, not 2x, and dustinfoley, thanx 4 saving the day man, props
i dont want anyone to think im a sony fanatic i own 2 xbox 360's and one ps3 one wii one nds and 2 psp's im a gamer to the heart but i get pissed off when some complains about something like a 5 gb install or disk speed but they never experienced playing the same game on xbox 360 and ps3 most games are i dentical except a few noticible games that got rushed and ported the wrong way and then the blame it on ps3 or 360 blame lousy developers dont blame the console ur using
It's funny that you think that. I'm usually a punctuation and grammar freak.
And all I really complained about was that a 5GB install doesn't always take 20 minutes to do.
Naughty Dog
They're pretty much experts when it comes to multi-core processing. If you take a multi-core programming course at MIT, chances are you'll have a lecture from one of their employees. They were one of the first developers to adapt to the Cell BE and if I'm not mistaken you can find a link to a lecture from a Naughty Dog employee on IBM's website.
It. Is. Bad. Ass.
I noticed no glitches, lag, or framerate issues at all, so I don't know what the above posters were talking about. Def. buying the game now.
Why is it that barely any ps3 games actually run in 1080p, but all of my 360 games do..it seems retarded because the 360 got its ability to do so through a firmware update..where as the ps3 had it from the start..only like two out of the 12 games i have actually play in 1080p which makes me feel retarded for paying extra for my hd tv lol..kinda off topic but o well lol
The 360 actually upscales anything it plays (other than dvds) to whatever video setting it's set to. So even if a game was developed in 720p, it'll play in 1080p on the 360.
Though there are a few exceptions I think. Fallout 3 says 1080p on the back of the 360 box while it says 720p on the PS3 box. But that's Bethesda and they don't care much about the PS3 at all.
nope, you're wrong. The PS3 Blu-Ray drive is max. 2x. Look on Wikipedia if you don't believe me.
first off blu-ray loads faster than dvds because if it didnt just identifying the games on ps3 would take long but it takes approx. 2 secs and on 360 it takes 4-5 secs and so this can set everyone straight ps3 has no loading problems didnt anyone ever look at insomniacs ratchet and clank future tools of destruction resistance 1 and 2 look at uncharted little big planet most ps3 games dont need installs some like uncharted use because they're first from the devs on the gen look at all sonys parties im sure most u seen gameplay from White Knight Chronicles (cant wait for it) it has no problems with loadin killzone 2 isnt goina have a manditory install if they dont have to and they said that not long ago and they have the game better than any shooter made on any system so far and dont u see games like call of duty which they are the same on ps3 and 360 has no problems on ps3 and then they're are games where the devs want to get the ps3 versino write and releases it alil bit later after figuring it out eg. Sonic Unleasher i have on both 360 and ps3 when playin on 360 it starts to show freeze frames goin at about 15fps and 10 fps and on ps3 it always starts at its 30fps and onli drops for a sec if they're is way to much action on the screen and moves at 30fps through tbe hole game while the 360 version moves mostly at 20 15 or 10 fps and i have both versinos cuz my brother bought the 360 version cuz it came out first and then i got the ps3 version when it came out plus re5 is ***** the demo isnt worth being on ps store
oh yeah, I wanted to add that the source of dustinfoley is also right, that's why I said that the reading speed is only achieved at the border of the DVD.
I'm not in the mood to argue so I'll just say this.
No 360 game needs a mandatory install. You can just install and run the entire game from the HDD if you want.
Blu-ray on the PS3 takes longer to load than a DVD on PS3 or 360. There's no need to say it again. It's the entire reason why any game on PS3 needs to be installed. Look at MGS4, it has 5 seperate 5GB installs for each Act.
I Hate to break this out to u But i swapped by xbox hard drive with my laptop's hard drive
Cuz inside the 360 hard drive it the same thing as PS3
Stupid fanboys. Do some research before u post something. I beleive ur just jealous that we have a better online experience than u. Feel sorry for u
Nope
Bluray is slower cuz ps3's drive is slow and its 50gb
Dvd is faster cuz xbox 360's drive is much much much faster than ps3's and it allso carries lesser amount of space compared to bluray
And its Our wish if we want to install the games or not. we can do as we wish but u have to install the games cuz sony doesnt want u to know how slow youre games will be while playing in bluray
BTW NFSU was having bad FPS cuz of the PS3 system Those guys told it they're self
i thought the demo was pretty meh. I think I just expected better movements from the characters. It just felt clunky.
NFSU sucks on every console...
360 sucks and they will sooner or later run into storage problems,
4dvds for 1 game... loool
lol, the blu-ray reads MUCH faster than the DVD drive inside the 360.
the difference is, the 360's games are compressed, the ps3's games in most cases arent.
my asÂs... you guys gotta pay for it.
the Blu-Ray disks are at 50 gig (dual layer)
just wait for the 8 layer bluray.
also, the ps3's "Drive" is at whatever you want it to.
you, sir, are a confused idiotic fanboy.
youre making it sound like changing the 360s harddrive is the easiest thing to do. Here is one of the guides i found online...
This mod is not for the feint of heart, you will need to be comfortable with taking apart a 20GB hard drive enclosure and be proficient in using MS-DOS commands.
The warranty of the 20GB hard drive will be void once you open it up so see if you can find one used or if you currently have one, know that you won%u2019t be able to send it back to MS for warranty.
You need to backup your saved games with either a memory card or you can use a software tool called Xplorer360
And here is what you will need to be able to upgrade it yourself...
Torx 6 and Torx 10 screw drivers or bits (you can find this at Radio Shack or your local electronic stores - Torx 6 will be the harder one to find)
Windows 98/XP based PC (Vista is not supported) that you can boot into MS-DOS (not just the command prompt in Windows but a full MS-DOS boot)
USB thumb drive that%u2019s 512MB or larger (the Kingston 1-2GB ones works well)
Motherboard that supports SATA drive connections with appropriate Molex power connectors (check with your motherboard manual to confirm)
20GB XBOX 360 enclosure
Western Digital 120GB 2.5%u2033 Hard Drive: Model # WD1200BEVS
Ability to boot into MS-DOS (refer Part 1)
hddhackr.com
hex workshop
hddss.bin file for the new 120GB HDD (google search for hddss.bin 120 xbox 360 or find it at %u201Cthe bay%u201D)
XBOX 360 Memory Card
Sony prints the native resolution of the games. while the Microsoft puts 1080p on all the games even though its not their native res. I call that lying.
The PS3 cant get the information off of the disk fast enough to play the game without the 5 GB installation. Bluray was such a new technology when the PS3 came out that they were only able to put a 2x speed drive in the machine. Dvd technology has been around so long that 16x speed is pretty much standard nowadays just like inside the 360. I am sure Sony could have put a faster bluray drive in the PS3 but they would have had an even bigger loss on every console sold.
Yeah, we're really jealous that we don't get to listen to kids that haven't reached puberty yet try and trash talk instead of playing a game. I'm absolutely green with envy.
Besides that, yeah there are some things I want to be able to do online that the 360 can do, but I tend to get absorbed in my gaming environment when playing Resistance, COD or MGO and find that the constant chatter that went on while playing Halo 3 at a friends to be annoying and disruptful. I'm all for chat for team based purposes, not for the kid with the insanley low kill count to scream and yell at everyone for his poor performance.
Fanboy? lawl
You're the fanboy for saying you have the better online experience. That, and you didn't even bother saying which online experience that is...
You're bashing somebody you think is a 360 fanboy, yet you seem like you're saying 360 has a better online experience than "mine". When I use both regularly anyway so the entire thing is redundant...
Is people are confusing the fact that a 12x dvd drive mayb read raw data faster then a 2x blu ray drive.... but most of gameing is more then just "raw data"
Blu ray reads video, audio (especially multi channle audio), and textures faster. Yes it takes longer for the raw code to load.... however you get uncompressed textures, videos, and sound, as well as only one disc instead of 3-4.
Dont forget the xbox 360s drive is ONLY faster on the first layer on the outer edge of the dvd. On the second layer and near the center, its actually slower on all aspects of the game.
ROFL GOT PWNED STUPID *****ITS ENJOY UR LOWER HDD SPACE STUPID NOOBS!!1111ONEONEONETWO!11241
But 2X blu ray drive is compared to half that of a 12X dvd drive so keep that in mind. The Blu ray drive is more then capable of getting information off the disc without a 5 gig install, Capcom just chose to be lazy. Instead of installing 5 gigs on the hard drive they could have copied the information over and over on the disc and the drive can access it at certain parts faster. A lot of games use this technique, Uncharted, Resistance 2 and Deadspace just to name a few.
Hehe whats even more funny is I bet I could show you the same game, one in 720p and one in 1080p and you couldnt even tell the difference.
MGS4 doesnt not have five 5gig installs , dunno who told you that. Again, notice that their are games on the PS3 that nave NO installs, it's up to the developer to chose this method to make load times faster but it's not the only method.
You dont need to explain that the Xbox 360 is bad, all you have to do is say it was made by Microsoft, the rest is self explanatory.
It is 5GB overall and it overwrites the install before each Act. But yes, there's no saying the entire 5GB was overwritten each time since the installs get faster before the last few acts.
I never said that because of the BD read speed all games have installs. I stated that if a game needs to be installed, the slow read speed is the only reason for it.
Yes, there are many other methods used in many different games which don't install like Uncharted (and possibly Killzone 2).
Even Fallout 3 improved on this a bit by installing while playing the game for the first time.
And really, I don't see how 5GB is anything to worry about unless you have a 20GB PS3 or purchase full games off of the PSN. I have Linux installed on my 60GB, along with Burnout Paradise off the PSN and 2 games installed. I still have about 15GB left over. If worst comes to worst, I can upgrade my HDD.
At least we can upgrade our HDD's past 120GB! So we can afford the space being used and the game being made faster because of it. Now why dont you go and buy a few more shares of Microsoft? That is, if you have any money left from shipping your 360 to Microsoft for repair 20 times.
Always seems to be capcom, I wonder if they are having trouble with the discs?
Since it seems to be all their "AAA" games, i am willing to bet its just sloppy codding. They found a system that works for them, and they just keep using it.
Its cheaper to reuse it then design a new way of coding that doesnt require it.