YET AGAIN! I AM A HAPPY PS3 OWNER! HEY MASTER CHEF. LETS SEE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THIS!!!!

Actually I'm not a fanboy, I just hate Microsoft with a passion and like getting the message out there whenever possible.

This coulld also be a reason for that 500gb xbox

I couldn't care less how many discs the X360 version uses unless it starts to gimp the other platforms.

Since we install our games and softwares and don't require the inserting of disks, it really doesn't matter to us PC users either way. We even have blu-ray drives for cheap, though nobody buys them cept for storage.

I bet you don't remember who invented the disk swapping game console in the first place?



Why it was the same company that brought you the disk console in the first place - The Sony Playstation 1!

that starred the disk console with its sega saturn

You make it sound like you presume I'm gonna defend MS about this. No, I don't like this either, how can an open world game be on 2 discs? I don't get how Forza 3 will work on 2 discs either. Hopefully you can install the second disc and never actually need to put it in the tray or something. I really don't mind disc swapping in games where it doesn't interfere with the flow, but I can't figure how they're gonna make this work with an open-world shooter/racer like Rage



Your pointless MS hate still makes you look like an idiot tho lol

doesn't anyone remember that people had to change floppys during installation. One game could take up to 100 floppys. What sucks is you have to sit there changing it every second or so due to the crappy storage space of floppys.

And even if they used only a 25gb Blu-ray, it would be nearly as much as 3 full dual-layer DVD's. So maybe you'll have to enlighten me about how 2 disks (DVD's) + more content.

Well even though ID software isn't making huge hits, you cannot dismiss what John Carmack says.



He is a legendary programmer and is not afraid to call things as he see's it. He was the lead programmer on all the games that DID change the course of video games (wolfenstein and doom mainly then quake later on) and hasn't stopped programming since.



I'd say his word is basically video game programming gospel....



and have you seen what the RAGE engine can do ? It looks amazing, but yes, looks aren't everything.



However, they are to a programmer as it's their job to get things running as best as possible on the machines at hand...not worry about gameplay mechanics. That is what the game designers do.

All the fanboy rage is nuts. I've got both systems and I get any game I don't plan on playing online for PS3 except for a few exceptions (like fighters) but now it seems like games will start taking advantage of the storage size of Blu-ray discs which is bound to become a deciding factor for me.



If you ask me, there would be no reason to buy a 360 if the PS3 had a price drop since the two systems have little differences (for now) and most games are available for both. Apparently Sony doesn't know that though and is satisfied with sub par sales. Whatever, let the videogame companies compete, the gamers win. But the internet loses when some chump falls in love or hate with one company or another and then posts about that love/hate any and everywhere possible.

With the comment about MGS4 taking longer for the install to happen, than disc swapping in games...



If the 360 would've gotten MGS4, it would've been after the new Xbox Experience went into effect. My point being a game of that size would've been on mulitple discs AND the 360 would've had an install time on top of it too. MEANING, you'd have to go back to your dashboard when you're ready for the second disc if it's installed already, which presumably it wouldn't be, cause it'd waste space having a second disc that you don't know when you're gonna need it. So if you're going to bring MGS4 into it, remember where you're coming from. Not to mention the fact that if you only have to install MGS4 once and its 8 mins. then it's 4 mins 3 more times. SO, that only adds up to about half an hour, and then the game is over. The amount of time it would take you to swap the discs, cause there'd be about 3-4, would be almost agonizing cause you'd have to install entire DVD-9's individually. I hope everybody followed that.

I was able to follow what you said after a few reads, and I can understand what you are saying. I personally own both, and would like it if the 360 could have larger disc storage so that the games could do and have more, seeing as to how most developers seem to be developing for 360, then both systems would benefit. Right?