I don't care for nintendo's motives and honestly, if the Wii didn't have the gamecube port of Zelda, then what games would you be playing now? Raving Rabbids? excite truck? Wii sports? Sure guys, have at it then, *****ing mini games ruling out traditional "fun" games is not a console thats going to stick.



Secondly, everyone *****es about the blu-ray drive but i guess you haven't noticed the non-exsistant ads going around advertising it huh...

you're comparing an underpowered console to a handheld. and not just any handheld, the successor to the Game Boy and Game Boy Advance, the bestselling handheld of all time.



there is no arguing that previous Game Boy owners (there are millions and millions of them. over, at the least, 100 million) are going to upgrade to the DS, due to it's backwards compatibility. the DS isn't 100% expanding the market to new types of gamers. most original DS owners bought the Lite. not coincedentally, sales of the DS spiked when the Lite was released. why? because previous DS owners were buying them (every single person i've talked to, whether at work or gaming stores, or my friends that owned the original DS, bought the DS Lite. why? because it was the DS Lite! it was smaller than the original DS! and has a brighter backlight! yay! that's the reason why the DS is pushing so many units. people are upgrading. yes, there are parents and grandparents that are getting into the DS (bravo, Nintendo), but you are kidding yourself if you think that the millions of DSes that have been bought since it's release are completely new people to gaming.



the Wii has backwards compatibility with Gamecube games, but last i checked, the Gamecube sold 25 million units, and the number of games that are worth having that aren't Nintendo made products are tiny.



backwards compatibility sells consoles. sure, the Wii has old NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and Turbo Grafix 16 games, etc, but having played those games 20 years ago, and a few yesterday, actually, they aren't what sell consoles. they are, at most, 30 minute escapes, until you get tired and frustrated by the archaic and insanely difficult gameplay, and what something new.



Contra has a point. without Zelda, there wouldn't be much to keep you playing your Wii for longer than a hour or two, unless you have your friends over 24/7. i have a Wii, as well as a PS3. the PS3 gets more playtime. why? not because the wand tires you out (it can, but you really have to be kind of crazy and going at it for that to happen), but because the games just aren't nearly as fun alone. it's a party console, pure and simple.



ironically, the PS3 and 360 can be a party console also. we recently had a group of friends over and we played the Wii for a bit (fun and enjoyable), but eventually got tired of it and popped in Resistance: Fall of Man. our guests were just as captivated and entertained by the chaos onscreen from Resistance, as they were from swinging a racket in Wii Sports.



back to my underpowered comment at the start of this post. the Wii is underpowered. if there is one thing that gaming has done consistently since it's inception is push technology forward. motion sensing is not new. it will get old eventually. the question is how long will it take to get old, and what is Nintendo going to do when that happens?



why is having power under the hood a bad thing? games like Resistance, Gears of War, Shadow of the Colossus, Ico, Grand Theft Auto 3-San Andreas, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 4 could not have been possible on, say, an SNES or Playstation 1.



it took a more powerful system (as well as a storage medium with the capacity to hold that information) to bring those games to fruition. i can't help but imagine the kinds of experiences Nintendo could have created with the wand if they had more power under their hood. and i'm not talking about the visuals, though they serve to enhance a gaming experience, but the gameplay.



the Wii can't compete in the long term. when games like Mass Effect and Metal Gear Solid 4 hit store shelves next year, people are not going to care about waving a wand around. they'll be fascinated that gaming is now capable of delivering visuals and experiences that can rival a feature film (something gaming has been trying to do since the SNES. don't believe me? fire up Flashback or the Star Wars Trilogy on the Super Nintendo).



that technology is closer than ever now, and gamers and non-gamers will be enraptured by it.

Your numbers are clearly skewed in favor of your PS3 bashing ways.



First things first the core system is a horrible rip-off on true gamers. The system allows for no backwards compatibility since it also lacks an HDD. There for you also have to buy memory cards.



The core also has no headset or the ability to play online with other people unless you buy a live subscription.



Also there is no wireless controller with the core system which is a standard in all the next-gen consoles now.



You also seem to over look completely the $500 PS3 which offers all the backwards compatibility of the 60GB model and all its other features except for a card reader and wifi.



The card reader can be bought online (usb card reader) for around $20. The HDD can be upgraded for less than $100 (the 20GB HDD for 360 costs $100 and cannot be upgraded with anything else) to be over 100GB and wifi adapters can be bought as well for the same price as the 360s wifi adapters (which are needed on either the premium or core models).



So it's easy to see that you tilt your numbers in the favor of bashing the PS3. Pricing wise the PS3 20GB model is a good deal for a new console that also functions as a BD player.



Please refrain from anymore slander.

Well you say the ebay thing but the market is saturated with PS3s right now. More people scalpped PS3s then 360s it's plain to see.



The bule laser diode thing has already been sortted out, and I love you just guessing at numbers off the top of your head for consoles worldwide.



All these average figures are a hoot too. It'd be alright if you just stated your opinion, but to back it up with numbers that are only in your head is wrong.



PS3 is still hot and peopel are stilling lining up to buy them so your little consumer analyst report is far from correct.

Just by looking at the kiosks one can tell that the PS3 and Wii is an eternal battle between Red vs. Blue or Black vs. White

Well if your going to count Wii Sports as 3 games you might as well count Arcade games you can download and stuff like that.

ZING!!!