BOO BOO indeed!

Great one QJ.net, excellent fantastic way of helping to spread a pointless rumour without even mentioning the disk cacheing feature that is going to speed up game loading times!



I exepected better of you QJ!

how fast was dvd when it first came out?? not fast at all if i recall corectly, blu ray is new tecnology and is only going to get better as time progresses... xbox fans seem to find ANYWAY POSSIBLE to downplay the good old ps3... honestly now.. you gotta come to terms, its some goodass tecnololgy the playstation 3

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Does anybody know that the ps3 will not support Dual Shock on their controllers because it conflicts with the motion sensor technology they have built in the controller???



can anybody confirm this?

Insomniac stated they achieved 6 second load times by using the harddrive to cache things and to speed up loading. It's not a big deal if devs use the hdd right.

Honestly, I can't say I've seen ANY site spread so much pointless negative (anything they can find) PR for the PS3.

Though it's amusing to read.

the reason why 360s drive is faster is because the core system doesnt have an HDD so the devs use the disk speed(MS knew thatso thats why they made the disk drive speed faster) so that ppls without an HDD dont have longer loading times compared to the ones that do have an HDD.while ps3 does have slower speed on BR, the HDD will help boost the loading times...remember GT HD...3 secs to load a race!!!!

Both figures are peak? Where are you guys getting your information or are you just bleating the same information repeated by others. Consecutive data in the inner tracks of a disc will nett 9mb/s for BDx2 and 16mb/s for DVDx16. The higher speed will allow for a greater amount of textures in open ended games such as GTA as well as reduced loading times.



To #3, this is not a rumour, but actual fact. And the article poster did mention the disk caching, please read it again. I still think MS's biggest mistake with the 360 was not including the hard-drive as standard as Sony has. While developers can still use it to cache, they can not design games around the expectation for it to be there.

PS3 will have HDD support for every single one game which will make loading times as quickly as possible. On the other hand 360 must spin DVD’s at maximum speed to increase loading times since core version don't have HDD. That leads to scratching discs and generating a lot of noise. "Compared to previous generation game consoles the Xbox 360 is quite loud, much of this noise is produced by the disc drive when it reads a game disc. Because games can be played both with and without the detachable hard disc, the drive spins close to its maximum 12X speed to reduce load times." - wikipedia

I am not a fan of any systems I just dont like microsoft. Apple baby!!!!!! anyway I thank all the xbox fans for talking trash. because sony waited to build the ps3 and now they can add stuff to it. now for the load times, look if theres any load times I think it will be at the start of the game. but after that the game would have stored inportent info on th hard drive. so it will have fast load times. I mean the xbox360 has long loads anyway and gt hd on ps3 loaded in seconds. hay I might be wrong, but if you xbox fans think your 360 is soooooo great then wait till ps3 comes out dont try to down play it so that people wont buy it. just shut-up and wait. what you scared wooooooooo boo!!!!!! got ya ps g4 tech tv sucks, its for xbox fanboys its all they need

"PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 72Mbits/second or 9MB/second. The Xbox 360 uses a 12x DVD, which should give it about 16MB/second.



I would say that that is a good improvement. Not fantastic, but good.



Combine it with a HD that can hold some of the data and you got a good speed."



the 360 has a HDD too...so combine that with a speed that is better then the ps3...then it will be better...



however i don't give a *****...because i am a patient unlike you fat *****ers.

>"Also, DVD's start reading at the inside edge, not the outer edge, in effect lowering the average data transfer rate if the data does not go all the way to the outside edge of the disk."



Which is why developers wanting to get extra speed out of DVD will either a) ensure frequently accessed data is on the outside and/or b) pad out the inside tracks of the DVD with dummy files so that the games files are pushed to the outside, hence are read faster.



Gamers creating iso files for sharing games illegally online would know about option 'b', since they often have to manually delete dummy files to keep the size of the iso files to a minimum (search the net for 'games iso dummy files' to find out more).

With all due respect dave, you are simply reflecting the opinions of someone excited over a product because it's not out yet. It's no different than anything 1000s of posts I've read over the last 10 years, with gamers considering everything out now as average because they are excited about the possibilities of a new 'incredible' console which has yet to be launched.



The PS3 will be great, but don't expect a big improvement over the 360, because it's not going to happen, not with load times, performance, graphics etc. Yes Blu-ray will offer some advantages, such as space to store more higher quality video and streamed audio, or for developers to add more levels and more textures etc, but again, this is not going to offer the differences some seem to be expecting to see in game.



You mentioned better load times above, referring to GT-HD as an example. However GT-HD had fast load times because ALL the tracks were copied to the HDD!!! This is nothing special, as it can be done on the 360 also. I doubt the developers are going to expect gamers to just give up large amounts of their HDD space for each game, so in GT-HD, they would probably give you an option of whether you want the tracks copied to the HDD or not. If not, the load times will be slower than the 360, and since developers can offer 360 gamers with HDDs a similar choice, the load times will be the similar for data copied to their HDDs.



No-one 'official' said the PS3 would not support 1080p (if in doubt, search the net for what was 'actually' said, instead of reading the editted comments from guys on forums). There are numerous discussions regarding the use of 1080p, where 720p is usually a better choice (more likely to be 60fps whilst 1080p is more likely to be 30fps). But this is another discussion in it's own right so I will not take it any further here.



Anyway, you said "how about we all just chill out and wait till the system comes out". Yep, I agree, but remember that applies to both sides, i.e. those for and against the PS3. ;)



Let's wait and see. :)