PS3 ISO backup playable thanks to exploit? |
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Can a backup be played on the PS3? Yes, says Paradox, an Internet release group. Apparently, there's an exploit. Here's what's making the rounds on the Internet:
| cOMPANY : SCEI | rELEASE DATE : 27 Dec 2006 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 120 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Racing | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/JAP |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : Wireless B/G? |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Yes they are |
| sPECIAL nOTE: |
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| Happy new year to all members who helped in the past and present! |
| And a question to all, is there a bug in the system software from |
| the playStation 3(R) Yes there is Nothing to add more.. |
What does this mean? Paradox has released a game image (ISO) of Motorstorm (Japanese) and in the NFO file, they say the game image is playable. And that's not the only thing that's making the hacks-and-exploits community smile: earlier, Paradox also said that the first sectors from a PS3 image (sector 0 to 20) are special and may be the decryption keys for the executables.
We ask the same question as the news source for this article: "Could the PS3 be exploited already?" Is that good news or bad news - I mean, it's good news for a lot of gamers, but is that good news for Sony? What's going to happen next?
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Yes there is an exploit in the system software, but IDK if theyre using an older version or 1.32
to download ~15GB, no thanks!
Until Super Internet or something even faster is available, nobody will even bother to down load a file of such an extreme nature. It takes a good week sometimes to dl 1gb files. To dl a 15gb file or larger, (or even a 50gb iso) the war will be over by then.
The point isn't the games, it's the exploit...
I don't know where you've been, but with a good DSL or Cable plan you can download 1GB pretty fast. Heck, Vanguard's beta download is 7.5GB for a 22GB install. Downloading a series of anime or a DVD ISO is usually around 4.5GB, and I'm sure there is a lot of that 15GB that can be compressed to a certain extent
i download 1gb in about 1 hour or less on a 8Mb line
this will be the Dead of the PS3, someone remember DREAMCAST !! this is a Bad day for PS3 FANS like me
He he, 15Gb isn' t anything enormous. Good compression + good internet and there you go ;) No more than 24h needed I think.
And about exploit. It's fantastic, so fast :)) Thanks to Paradox.
When we will get PS3 in Europe it already could be hacked. Nice work!
I hope it will work on the first update. Thats all i did.
it may take 1 week on your 56k connection using WinMX, but using torrents and a 10MB Connection, a 1 GB file can be d/l'd in a few hours.
my guess is sony put the exploit in there to test the waters
can we say 1.0?
its not 10MB its 10MBit
if you had 10mb connection, wow.
Well sony, is not playing dumb,but it takes me like 12 hours downloading 15 mb,but if you have 60 gigabytes,well i guess it wouldn't be a problem,but they haven't learn with the psp yet,but i am sure if there is a way to crack the games sony will come up with something,so i buy game beacause i respect sony as a company.so will see.
use usenet and u can download at totally fullspeed. look at www.newsdemon.com, everything come out on usenet first anyway. 15 gigs would take a matter of hours. but i think the main concern right now is buying a blueray burner and blueray disks. youd have to download and enjoy at least 20-30 games before you would have made even. but i guess in a years time if this exploit is still availiable and blueray burners are cheaper, then it wont be a problem
it would take me about 4-6h to download
its not a big deal :) im patient
i'm already playing copied games on my 360. hahaha. haven't even bought one game for the system yet!!!
If they can get it playing why dont they release the info on how to play copied games. Maybe they feel sorry for sony because its soo soon so they just give out clues?
As for downloading 15 gigs is no problem even 25 gigs when you get up to 50 it'll take a little while but at 15 mb cable to fiber optic line a game should download fairly fast.
Well jut in case they got it working Sony might fix the problem in the nex production cycle or if it is unfixable Sony might even recall all PS3's on the market.
probably a fake!!!
This exploit is far less then the exploit on the Xbox360.
If this would kill the PS3, the Xbox360 would have been dead long ago.
This exploit requires a storage medium for Blue-ray games, this also requires knowledge of how to use the exploit.
The Xbox360 requires little knowledge whatsoever, just flash the DVD drive and burn Xbox360 games and play, nothing to it.
... no one will download, all the fanboys saying "haha will download in 2 hours" just STFU, you know you cant. Plus, you would bit like 3 games on one 60 GB HDD, and 10 on 180 GB, so would wear it out preety fast. and, like some other dude said, if this were to kill the PS3, the 360 would be non-existant.
SOny shouldn't fear this. The games now are too huge to download, and to buy them illegally won't be worth it or convenient.
Besides, I still haven't met a single person who did not own pirated games for the ps1, and it was still the top console.
all u people above me that posted, well ***** You! First, dont you have *****ing better things to do than freakin download 30GB+ of data? second your supposed to be supporting the devs so we can get better games, all you gay people that would rather download games.... *****ERS!!!!!
Why put a 180 gig drive in your system. They have 750 gig satas for 300-400 bucks. Thats less then the price of 10 games. hmm... math 10 * say 15 gigs = 150 gigs still have 600 gigs left. and you dont have to switch out the games. So about 50 games on a 750 gig drive. Probably more depending on size of game. Some are only 5 to 8 gigs. As soon as they figure out how to put copied games into the game folder we are set! Just a matter of mounting the damn PS3 file system. Or redirecting to the linux partition :)
This is great. And they wont have the files together. They will have them in several downloads. To make it easier. I cant wait.
Obviously you have never tired flashing or even opening a 360 Vietone.
Sites are already sharing PS3 dumps. Most games are under 6GBs not 50GBs. This isn't good news for Sony, PS3 owners, or the gaming industry.
I was talking to some peeps in #ps3 on efnet and they were saying paradox cracked a test (beta) ps3 that was released a while ago. which means it probably has some buggy beta firmware and whatnot. This means no free games for pirates yet and why they havent told anyone else how to play copied games.
yes i saw ps3 iso's by paradox and they range from 4-6.5 gb except for resistance which is 15 gb, even some pepole today posted on one torrent ste that they are playable on dvd's..no bluerays needed..can't wait to have a ps3
I was able to get the Xbox360 exploit working in less then an hour after reading about it on QJ.
Im very comfortable with working with hardware and was able to open the Xbox360, connect it to my computer, flash it and reassemble and play in less then an hour.
Right now, me and all my neighbors who have Xbox360s are now using the firmware exploit thanks to me.
Its extremely easy, much easier then installing mod chips.
all u have to DO IS RIP It from blockBuster OMG!! u guy are dumb to go and download ISO. i never download any ISO for psp i just go and rip them down. just use ur brain.
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at the moment you can't play a ps3 game from a backup dvd right now even with an exploit. the drive can't read a dvd with the blue laser.
the graphic background that loads when a game is inserted is part of the security. if that info changes (different disk loaded) you will get an error. If you replace the origional disk after this error you will still recieve and error and have to restart the machine.
Are you a freaking chimp? It takes maybe 20 minutes to get 1GB. 15GB is easily a single day's download.
u rip them to iso stupid. not burn to dvd. and in time u can do that i not say right now u stupid. and there is a laptime from sony that can read blu ray. later they will make a blu rap dumping
I am a pirate but I hate to see the rough start that the ps3 has had be even rougher with the intoduction of piracy, I mean devolopers are already questioning if they want to make ps3 yet and this will do nothing but delay that, I dont mind piracy in fact I like it but I would want this to happen in like 2 years once the console gets on its feet.
ur a noob 2
blue ray wont read dvds huh...wowo i must have some proto unit bcuz mine plays dvds and ps2 games....
These things are no hassle to download, I have access to a gigabit link...
And *****ing hell, what's up with all the kiddos here?
Great to see you can all read. "Nah" said "sometimes".
Next week, we'll look at basic punctuation.
My Freind Already told me....that he can actually Play Copied 360 DVD game Discs without even having to Modchip..
Last time I checked the game files are not that large in ISO maybe 4-6 gigs. If I get a good torrent going at about 300kbps-600kbps I could maybe download it in about 5-8 hours. I only have about a 160gig hard drive and I don't care for expanding this computer any further, I couldn't see myself filling up the hard drive with ISO's of PS3 games, i'd end up backing it up on a Double Layer DVD. Or if comes to worse, break the larger ISO's into seperate RARs and multiple DVD's for future use. With that said, The 360 comment, I don't have the balls to break my 360 open and f' with the firmware on the DVD drive. Plus, Sometimes I enjoy opening a new game. Sometimes I enjoy getting stuff for free.
Firstly You'll Need A Blu-Ray Drive Writer Thingy to actually write them onto a Disk...
Or if u use the hard drive well you'll only fit a couple of games on..
And Last well you need fast internet which in the UK costs a little bit...
i have 2MB broadband and that costs not much only about £18 but like 8MB is expensive so most people won't be able to use this exploit unless they own all that stuff
What programs do u use? (i use shareaza) i live in australia, and i hate to say it, but compared to the rest of the world, ours is *****....
thats your LAN, not your WAN link speed.
you do not have a gigabit link, a 100mbps link is available but that is a T/E1 link costs thousands of dolars per month
duh, of course it reads dvds, with the red laser.
if this is true then all they did was burn their linux dump to a BD and insert. The beta/test ps3s have no backup prevention.
even so, that is still one step ahead.
Broadband in the UK is a complete rip off. A good 8MBps supplier (with no limits) will set you back around £30-£40 a month.
Then, once you've got that, you need a hard drive. PS3 games are around 10-25GB, so if you want to have about 5 games you'll need a 100GB hard drive. Although they are quite cheap now, it's still a lot just to get 5 games, which isn't a lot.
Following this you'll need a Blu-Ray drive, which costs around £900.
Piracy on the PS3 doesn't seem very cheep, unless they managed to let you take out your PC HDD, and use it on your PS3: eliminating the need for Blu-Ray discs/writer.
Of course launch games are 5-6 GB, but give it time until people start using the other space (at that time probably there will be faster internet connection, but stfu)
its on usenet at 13.1gb, thats just over 3hrs on my 10meg connection.
I'm calling Bull5h1t on this.
Once we strip the lame CGI's out these games are going to be 1-2 gigs tops most likely.
If it was real someone would say what version firmware to not upgrade past. And dish-out way more info. Keep holding your breath guys
is there a way to boot the iso without writing it to a bluray disc?
yes that is true, you can even play backed up games without opening your 360, just flash the DVD drive with a new firmware... but once you do that, you risk getting banned from LIVE and getting your 360 bricked!
Since none of you have any idea if the exploit is media or firmware based. It is pure speculation at this point as to whether or not you require a BD burner or not.
Game sizes have ranged from as small as say Madden 07 @ 67x100mb to as large as Resistance Fall of Man weighing in at a hefty 86x200mb. Anyone on 3mbit or faster can easily nab a game or 3 a day and that is not an uncommon speed these days.
With the PS3 having the ability to use any size Sata drive up to and including the 750GBs on the market now, here is hoping it is a firmware loader style.
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well, look at sony's history man...
every piece of sony hardware up untill now was easy to pirate on
didn't stop em till now... psx, ps2, psp..
I'm calling Bull5h1t on yo mama
if you have an .iso file of a ps3 game on ur hard drive , can u take that hard drive + hook that up to one of the usb ports + play the game.
will the ps3, read or load games from an .iso file?
let us know,
comments please
thanks
paul
hopefully it'll work in a similar way to the psp. Sony have never been very good at the software side of things. Just look at SonicStage, what a piece of s**t that is!
I only say USENET...with a 16mbit bandwith this thingy is down in less than 2 hours.
btw.: sum screens of the original nfo: http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=66997&page=2
oh you think your lines suck, ours may be pretty fast (20MBit/512kbit here atm), but the data transfer limits suck, most of us here are stuck @ 10GB/month... (belgium)
You wont be able to go online with these iso and for most games thats most of the point of having the system. also look at the size of the launch PS2 games. they fit on CD's they were so small, look at the games now! they fill up an entire DVD. so what makes you think the games wont eventually get up to 50 GB in size? One says "Why?" The other replys "Why not?" Its very simple, pirates will be pirates. Pirates are typically ignorant to some degree because the devs need money to live! they dont make much money at all! But in the end its fine having pirates because the corperations who own and publish these games rake in more money than the devs combined on each title. But then again look at EA games with a profit in the billions they average a NET profit of 100 Million because they spend the rest on the games and keeping the company alive. Point is all the people who claim to be pirates are being ignorant of the past. But then again so is everyone, notice theres always war.. i wonder why...
what do you have dialup?
If the PS3 can have an OS, isn't it possible to send a complete game to the OS partition by a router without having to burn a BD? Even if PS3 can't read ISOs it is possible to extract the ISO!(Of course that I'm not certain of this the PS3 only arrives in March to Portugal :'( )
Comments pliz!
But look again, both the PSone, and the PS2 fueled a huge supply for the pirated game market. I think that it was due to this, the cheap availability of such games (not saying that they should buy them), that caused these consoles to go quick. Sure some may argue that the Dreamcast suffered such things and died as well, but one may also keep in mind that the Dreamcast did not sell that great in the first place. Another thing is that... Sony may not even be panic-ing right now due to this problem, as I think that their main goal right now is satisfying the vast asian market.
people in here seem to think that people do not download files over 100 megabytes, in Sweden, which is not exactly the backwater of internet connections, you can get 100mbit down /10mbit up for around $32 if you live in the right place. (even 1gbit is becoming available to the public)
i'll download any amount GBs for free games. Thats why im on this site. Thanks QJ for the ps3 update on free games~~~
If it's possible to load an entire Linux OS to boot onto the PS3...well then, why isn't it possible to homebrew a blueray virtual drive? Much like how Daemon's tools work with DVDs and CDs?
Just a thought...might be a better bet than waiting for the release of Blueray burners and such...
daemon tools load iso of progs onto their native OS, just bypassing media. linux is not the ps3 xmb or whater it's called. what your suggesting is a ps3 emulator for linux.
does this exploit open up the door for homebrew and firmware mods/tweaks on the ps3 ? if so could it be a way of altering censorship and region coding for JPN ps3's.
any ideas ?
thanks
i hear a lot of you complaining about file sizes poor things... P2P file sharing networks are evil and BT is old news... when will you people catch up with *NEW* *OLD* ways of philesharing????? how do you people live on BT and P2P it makes me want to vomit
The PS3 Expliot is meant to be completely software based, the same as the PSP. This means no flashing of firmware and emulation of current firmware will be possible.
The reason the xbox is still alive is because of the possible risk of losing your xbox live account. Although at the moment you can play online with a hacked 360 nobody is sure if microsoft can detect the hacks....
With this PS3 software expliiot it could be possible to run backup/ISOs and the PS3/Sony have no knowledge of that.
So please, all of you stop chatting crap.
YES you can download 15gb fairly quickly. (well under a day of downloading vs £50. Hmm... you decide). Checking on torrent sites PS3 images range from 5gb - 15gb.
A device has already been made that allows connection of any HDD to the PS3, so nothing stops someone buying a 350gb HDD and using that to store games. There will also no doubt be a link between PC/PS3 via USB so that games can be played via the USB cable just like they are on the PSP.
Also, to the guy that said just rip isos and that downloading is dumb. ISO's are usually released before blockbuster has them, Jap imports etc... Why pay $5 to rent when you can download earlier than release day and for free???
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but rumor has it that the reason the exploit has not been released is because the PS3 has not yet been released in Europe. If Sony know how Paradox exploit the machine all Euro machines will be patched to prevent it.
ok....exploit is not needed. PS3 allows you to install another operating system on your machine - so with that you can pretty much do whatever you want - ripping games included. But here is the reality of the situation. You have a 60 HDD as a factory default. even if you choose to grab a 750 GB hard drive, in the very near future you will only be able to back up around ten games or so to the hdd. after that you'll need a blu-ray recorder (which aren't even market technology yet) and I'm assuming since a blu-ray player is over $1K, a recorder will be even more expensive. The memory problem is a very serious issue. this isn't the original x-box - where 750GB EIDE and 2 hours of work would give you the goods for life. the harsh reality we'll all be facing is that right now, Sony and Blu-Ray have developed a technology that is just too wielding for pirates to get a strong grasp of. The whole point of pirating is to get something expensive for cheap or free. But the cost of the equipment just to steal this kind of technology far exceeds the cost to play it legitimately. Unless of course you all are doing this just to "get back at the man". But as for me, I can't just drop $500 for a PS3, $400 for a 750GB SATA, $1000 for a Blu-Ray burner, $100 a month for high speed downloading, countless development and downloading hours, even with high-speed. Even if you skipped the blu-ray player - its overall cheaper to just buy the damn games for $60 (as someone already pointed out - there aren't that many of them). You not only support future game development, but you save yourself a lot of cruel and pointless punishment. But you guys probably won't listen to me. You'll buy all this other ***** (still supporting Sony and Blu-Ray by purchasing all of it, btw) and think you're owning the world. And in the end you'll just be taking a longer route to do what everyone else did legally. go figure.
I have a 15Mbps (Megabit per second) connection which equals about 1.8 - 2 MBps (MegaBytes per second). I use Giganews which will utilize every bit of that connection. 15 GB + 15360 MB at a constant 1.8 MBps will take 143 Minutes which equals 2 hours and 23 minutes! So it would take me 3 hours max for a PS3 game. I wouldnt download one since I have no PS3 but if i had to its not a problem :?
Yeah it's true... people are bored enough(or make it their hero work) to hack and modify...
As for downloading 20GB(yes... around there) of illegal content... ...
It won't happen, sorry.
Renting them from your local rental store...
Will probably happen, sorry.
Oh well, blu-ray has some nice protection on their movies tho...lol
Wii... you're next!!!
"PS3 allows you to install another operating system on your machine - so with that you can pretty much do whatever you want - ripping games included"
The OS is limited to Linux right now and probably forever (aside from emulating x86 in Linux).
They have already ripped games, that doesn't make them playable. The exploit would allow them to be playable.
"even if you choose to grab a 750 GB hard drive, in the very near future you will only be able to back up around ten games or so to the hdd."
Hmm, basic math. Blu-ray holds max 25gb on single layer, 50gb on dual. So far the largest game has been roughly 16gb compressed, the smallest being less than 5gb. Your 10 games on a 750gb (excluding how the drive size is read) would be 75gb/game. It reality you could fit 30+ games on one of those.
"I can't just drop $500 for a PS3, $400 for a 750GB SATA, $1000 for a Blu-Ray burner, $100 a month for high speed downloading, countless development and downloading hours"
You wouldn't need the Blu-ray burner if you had the hard drive, or vise versa. I don't know where you live, but in the US a sufficient connection (~3mbps, my opinion) for downloading large games comes in at < $60 (mine's about $40). The US is also no where the cheapest for fast connections, many other countries pay less. I doubt you personally would be spending "countless development and downloading hours". The developers do the work and your computer does the downloading (no assistance needed).
"its overall cheaper to just buy the damn games for $60"
No, definitely not. Besides your prices being off, a hard drive can be erased allowing for more games to be place on it and old games to be removed as time goes on.
Feel free to comment...
thats your LAN, not your WAN link speed.
you do not have a gigabit link, a 100mbps link is available but that is a T/E1 link costs thousands of dolars per month
what if he got a server hanging like me @ internet exchange , believe me , i'm not paying thousands of dollars , and downloads are flying in , use multiple usenetservers !! and you easily go over 100 mbps