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PS3 hacked by iPhone dev?

Posted Jan 23, 2010 at 9:33AM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: PS3 Tags: Geohot, hack, playstation 3 updates, ps3, rumor, Sony

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Here's something interesting for the weekend. iPhone developer Geohot claims to have been finally able to hack the PS3.

Here's what the dev posted on his blog:

I have read/write access to the entire system memory, and HV level access to the processor. In other words, I have hacked the PS3. The rest is just software. And reversing. I have a lot of reversing ahead of me, as I now have dumps of LV0 and LV1. I've also dumped the NAND without removing it or a modchip.

Geohot further adds that even though he's not revealing the exploit yet, it's not patchable by Sony. Firmware updates could however make implementation harder. There's no mention of what firmware he's working with.

Geohot -- if it is the same one -- made his mark on the iPhone homebrew community with a baseband unlock for firmware 3.1. Without further proof I'll have to put this under rumor for now. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this turns out to be the real deal.

Thanks to Adam West, James, Koolkatmedia, Ferre, and mansonfreak for the tips!

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I don't think he necessarily means emulation.

A hacked ps3 means no more hypervisor for one thing, and may not even require the linux overhead part.

Any form of windows is probably impossible but Mac OS, with some versions being released for PowerPC architecture, could that be plausible?

Linux without a hypervisor sounds good to me though.

# All I need... — Djhg2000 2010-01-26 18:58

Linux without hypervisor would be the only hack I need.

I don't care about copied games, and even if I did I wouldn't waste my precious BD-R discs.

# Incompatible Hardware — Guest 2010-01-26 15:13

OSX and Windows aren't made for the CELL processor. The best option would be to emulate the operating systems.

Hopefully this will lead onto a purely software based hack so we can easily make better use of the PS3 like with the PSP.

# RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-25 15:49

i dont think hes done it.he said he dont want to release it,he's scared of sony.well he wasnt affraid of apple when he cracked the iphone.bottom line dont state you did something without proof.when i see the proof ill beleive it.i think this guy is trying to get alot of ppl following him on twitter.my advice to him put up or shut up.

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Karl B. 2010-01-23 10:38

What say you, guys? Dubious or legit?

+1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 10:42

Geohot is well known. I doubt he is lying.

# He is a genious — Guest 2010-01-24 10:54

I have an iphone and he's work with blackra1n is grea. when nobody could hack the iphone, he could. now he's hacking my ps3.... he's my hero!

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — kon_e3 2010-01-23 10:42

Better be real

-10 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — altair460 2010-01-23 10:44

and whats the point of hacking the PS3 when there are no games on it haha

# the point... — Guest 2010-01-23 10:53

Running homebrew! imagine a n64 emulator on the ps3! And maby being able to backup your psx games on the hdd.. Making a Virtual PC for the ps3 slim and more! ^^ this is jusst what I hope for.

+4 # RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 10:53

I like how ignorant people are these days -_-

-6 # RE: RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — usjbroly 2010-01-23 12:41

Quoting Infinity99:

I like how ignorant people are these days -_-

I like how ignorant people point out how they like how ignorant people are these days.

+5 # ... — Untopped555 2010-01-23 16:28

idiot you basically insulted yourself...

+1 # poooooo — Guest 2010-01-23 20:32

I like how ignorant people point out how they like how ignorant people point out how they like how ignorant people are these days

# lol — su43berkut17 2010-01-24 15:52

lol

# RE: poooooo — Guest 2010-01-26 17:45

everyone loves ignos

# lol — Evan Smith 2010-01-24 16:27

lol

-1 # homebrew — Guest 2010-01-23 10:53

for the homebrew... stupid pirate

-2 # ... — altair460 2010-01-23 11:04

yeah for homebrew sure that excuse worked soo well with the PSP, Everyone hacks the psp for homebrew noone pirates games on it... /sarcasm -.-

+2 # Eh... — Guest 2010-01-23 11:59

Well... The ps3 games is like more than 10 times larger then the psp games. I dont wanna fill my 120gb hdd with like 2-3 games. And its too expensive to get a blueray burner and blueray discs to burn games.
And the prices of ps3 games are pretty low. So I think most people wont need to pirate anything. And homebrews could be pretty awesome on the ps3.
So yeah... The reason for hacking the psp could be Homebrews...

-1 # not even 1\10 of the price — Guest 2010-01-23 19:40

so it was few years ago when bluray come into the market.now 1 verbatim bd-r is 4\5 euros and a burner, well check for yourself... you buy 4 games and the deal is done.they made too much on the same system till now, and for those that argue at me "so you don't want people program anymore good games" hey stfu i own a 360 and they are programming on it even if there is faaaar more installed base with modchip\firmwar e and no bought games outta there so let's begin, i had no use for that 2TB hd for too much and my new 20mbit is alive and kickin! ;D

# poooooo — Guest 2010-01-23 20:36

the actual games arnt like 10 times larger, if its truely properly hacked it would run stripped out games, like people on xbox 360 can do now, originally it was perfect 1-1 copies, but not 360 is hacked rather than just dvd drive you can easily get games that are like 3-4 gb rather than 7-8gb and thats not even taking into account videos can be stripped out to reduce size even more

# @ Dani_Poo — 1ofamillion 2010-01-23 21:06

Agreed

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:15

The good thing is if we get this to work we can get cool apps (maybe a better web browser) And probably emulations such as N64, Gamecube, probably even the Wii on PS3 OMG! But what I DON'T like is if he releases/leaks the exploit and game hacks start up like what was seen in Socom 2.

I miss that game when it was playable. And to the guy saying PS3 has no games that's a VERY old argument when it gets way more new exclusives now.

+1 # @altair — Navani 2010-01-23 11:56

Quoting altair460:

and whats the point of hacking the PS3 when there are no games on it haha

You're an idiot, I pirated maybe 3 games on the PSP and I don't even think I played them, I played SNES all the freaking TIME on my PSP. I beat ChronoTrigger and I got a bit into Mario RPG, plus Mario All Stars + World!

# Honesty — hypercoyote360 2010-01-23 12:51

I don't pirate stuff. I modded my Wii so I could dump all my games to an external HD and not have to swap out discs all the time. I made WADS of the SNES & NES games I own to play on the Wii. Everything I have on there is legit.

PS3, I'd love to get that modded so I could play some of my PSX that I kept sealed on the PS3 w/ the update graphics. There are many legitimate uses for playing backups of discs.

# Mmmm — Guest 2010-01-24 23:41

Want a cookie Jesus-boy?

I've pirated over $50,000 worth of software, games, music, movies, operating systems, you name it. And I'm proud of that.

You can go and keep helping the already filthy rich people get richer, well, I'm not emptying my pocket to those 'living-way-too-fucking-large' assholes that STILL overprice the fuck out of games and everything else.

# RE: Mmmm — RE FREAK 2 2010-01-26 01:56

Quoting Groovey:

Want a cookie Jesus-boy?

I've pirated over $50,000 worth of software, games, music, movies, operating systems, you name it. And I'm proud of that.

You can go and keep helping the already filthy rich people get richer, well, I'm not emptying my pocket to those 'living-way-too-fucking-large' assholes that STILL overprice the fuck out of games and everything else.

agreed theyre just living it up while we can barely get through..

# no games? — deadlyangel91792 2010-01-23 15:26

uncharted 2
killzone 2
demon souls
R&C series
Resistence series

ALL the great multiplats that have been coming out like mw2,borderlands and dragon age please dude the ps3 has so many good games its not fair.

+1 # altair460. — Guest 2010-01-23 23:47

Your Xsh*t 36Fail has no games.

GTFO. Take your 36Fail with you too.

# Legit — Guest 2010-01-23 10:49

Legit,Dark_Alex have done this before,but hi is out of the scene.
Lets see how this road go...

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 10:50

PS3 game sells are gonna get f* up with piracy and everyone bitching that they are too expensive, then why the hell in the first place do they have a PS3?

If this is real then PS3 games will sell so much as PSP games.

-4 # RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 12:40

360 has lots of piracy and games sell very well. PSP has many shitty games.

+1 # RE: RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 12:58

Yeah Xbox 360 is but the sales are sucessful and people don't moan about their prices, while with PS3 they do.

PSP has good games but just can't make good sales cuz of piracy.

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:21

Being a HUGE Playstation fan who hates MS's guts and if any other reason won't buy an Xbox simply over the fact that it's a MS product (See Faildows Vista/7) I can tell you that I had a PSP when they first came out and I waited 2 FREAKING YEARS for decent games and guess what. I got like 2 decent ones and sold the stupid thing to get a DS where I have a big list of cool games and I can actually homebrew it because the PSP was patched 99% of the time just to stop homebrew instead of improving the system.

# RE: I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-26 01:10

Windows 7 isnt bad at all. Oh wait, you're one of those people. How can I be as cool as you? HURR DURR MICROSOFT SUCKS I LOVE APPLE. Am I cool now?

+1 # RE: RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 23:08

It has shitty games in NA and EU. Japan gets good games up the ass every month -Eyes GodEater-

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:18

PS3 games can still sell well. As far as PS3 Piracy goes it might just make the Devs step up a bit and make more lengthy higher quality games. You wouldn't pirate a game that took nearly your entire hard drive would you?

# it's legit — cmccmc 2010-01-23 10:55

all the devs over at ps3news said it's legit and they have more knowledge about the ps3 than anyone but sony because they were the ones that were trying to hack it for the longest

+2 # RE: it's legit — Guest 2010-01-23 11:31

You're seriously basing his hacking legit, because it's backed by ps3news?

ps3news is one of the most bullshit PS3 sites out on the net.. They ALWAYS lie about exploits just to increase their site traffic.

# RE: it's legit — Guest 2010-01-23 11:33

You're basing this guys hack legit because of ps3news?..lol

ps3news ALWAYS bullshits about a new "exploit" that "they found" just so they can increase their website traffic so they don't get shut down.

# RE: it's legit — lolwut? 2010-01-23 17:27

Loling at the 2 other lolwuts here.

# And You Sir — Guest 2010-01-24 23:44

OMG THATS GENIUS. ADSENSE on PS3 SITE, ANOUNCE FAKE EXPLOITS. OMG YOU'VE TOLD ME EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO DO TO MAKE AN EXTRA THOUSAND THIS MONTH. THANK YOU

+3 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 10:55

I think this is kinda pointless. You're gonna have to download a 20Gb game after you hack it. Who wants to wait that long and has space to play all those games?

# Agree — Guest 2010-01-23 11:11

@Infinity99 i absolutely agree with you there. Haha try to download a torrent or split package that large would be stupid and points less. Let alone even more dangerous, tracing would be allot easier for authorities. Tunneling wont help you it will only make things worse ~_*. Of course and for the "I only want to back up my games

# RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 11:23

It's silly people saying "20GB" this and "50GB" that, just because it's the size of the Single/Dual-Layer BD doesn't mean the actual game is going to be that size, look on popular Torrent Search Engines and search for a PS3 game, you'll be lucky to find a handful barely over 15GB, some down as small as 3-4GB.

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:25

Decent first party titles will take too big of a toll on the hard drive though. I did check and what you are looking at are old 3rd party/early stage games on torrents. Things such as killzone or MGS4 you wouldn't want to download.

# RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 11:40

Umm, almost all the games on ps3 came out on 360 too, meaning 5-10 GB games. Besides, you probably have a weak connection if your complaining how long you have to wait just for 20GB.

+1 # HakatoX — Guest 2010-01-23 16:24

right, cause those games on the 360 are heavily compressed in comparison to the Ps3.
dont talk about sh!t you have no idea on... it only makes it look like your mom insisted on throwing you as a baby.

# 20 gigs ain't bad — Guest 2010-01-23 23:12

I think the largest torrent I've ever downloaded was about 30 gigs. 20 gigs for a PS3 game isn't bad. But don't take me the wrong way- I don't even own a PS3. Just saying, 20 gigs isn't bad, especially on a health torrent. If you can wait a couple days, and aren't some cracked out 8 year old- pirating games would be easy.

+3 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 11:00

i hopr this is not real! it will kill the ps3, there has been some great stuff on the psp cfw i admit but the game shave suffered. dont want that to happen to the ps3 :(

# true — Guest 2010-01-23 14:31

agreed. if gets hacked though, hopefully its the linux so that we can use the gpu to its full potential. =)

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:26

There's some potential. Full Cell/RSX supported Xubuntu. Can you say SPEEEED?

# RE: I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 12:56

Yah man! there are so many bad ass open source linux games that i would love to play on my ps3.

# Reality check — Guest 2010-01-24 23:47

The games have suffered? What?

The games BEEN shit. With very few exceptions. And it STAYED that way. Not because of piracy, but because of half-assed passionless developers that just want your money. And ya'll give them your money. Shame shame.

Reality Check.

+1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 11:01

looks like this one is legit guys. his blog dedicated to his ps3 work is at http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/ and his twitter is http://www.twitter.com/geohot Those who follow the iPhone scene know that geohot = the TRUTH!

+1 # Man — Lazyboy256 2010-01-23 11:02

I hope if this comes to fruition, the devs will be able to circumvent the hypervisor preventing the PS3 from using its graphics card under Linux. That'll open up a whole new level of possibilities, though I'm also hoping it won't open up people pirating PS3 games.

+3 # Slims doesnt have OS install — Guest 2010-01-23 11:05

This whole new level of possibility is only limited to the fat PS3.

# Indeed — Lazyboy256 2010-01-24 10:58

True....bummer for them (if they unlock the hyperviser anyways)

# Brian — Guest 2010-01-24 13:06

The Slim doesn't lack the hardware capability of running Linux. Sony just took out support for it because they didn't want to be spending double the money every firmware revision on producing secuirity updates for a feature most people never even touch.

If this is legit, a simple firmware hack could easily bring it back.

Also, as much as I'm hoping this is not true, if it is, I'd love to see a PCSX2 port make it to the surface.

+1 # good luck — Guest 2010-01-23 11:03

Let's see who's rich enough to burn bluray discs

# Lol — Guest 2010-01-24 23:49

Buying 10 50$ games vs burning 10 games.....

10 x $50 = 500$
10 x $5 = 100$ + 135$ bluray burner off tiger direct.

$500 vs 235$...

HMMMMMMMM. SUCH A HARD CHOICE MAN.

# ywwew — Guest 2010-01-23 11:13

and so it begins...

+1 # haha — Guest 2010-01-23 11:23

bullshitt

+1 # RE: haha — Guest 2010-01-23 13:11

I hope so.

# Look at the bright side — Vman00 2010-01-23 11:26

Someone might be able to add in-game music for Sony.

-2 # you know guys — Guest 2010-01-23 11:33

i've always bought pirated ps2/ps1 games and didnt even know it..and of course i paid less..i always thought that the prices were always this low..so if they hacked the ps3..shops will sell again pirated ps3 games for a lot less..:)

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:28

This is where the piracy can hit hard though is hard copies since you won't have to fill your hard drive using only a couple of games

+1 # NICE — somemadcaaant 2010-01-23 11:46

Too many good things can come from opening up the PS3, hardly any one will want to pirate and download games since their too big for most. Old school emus, in game music, cross xmb chat, home brew enhancements the list goes on... MORE PS3's will sell once this happens.

-1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 11:48

Watch the reversal process take forever and slowly we forget about the hack.
Why the hell do people want to run stuff on the PS3? You got computers for that. A virtual pc on the ps3 isn't logical because it has almost no ram.

Go buy your games. Or get a 360

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:30

But in that same context about the ram you can only run linux on it's architecture which is a lot more efficient than Windows and on that same note the RAM the PS3 does have is Faster than DDR3 making up for the limit.

-2 # lol sleepy hero — vizard00 2010-01-23 11:50

fake News , why!?

1 - A Ps3 upadate flash the Nand so this news would be a eminent disater for his project
2 - as a devs he know alredy that SOny will upadate what he talking about so as daekalex and many did , it would be beter if he surprise sony by a full release rather than corumting his works
3 - aven hacked blank BD are very expansive
4 - fuck u dont hack it a sell many ps3 games on ebay

+3 # RE: lol sleepy hero — Guest 2010-01-23 12:32

English?

# ... — lolwut? 2010-01-23 17:29

Learn better english please?
I doubt half the people here can understand what you're saying.
Besides that, Geohot is known for releasing hacks for the iPod Touch and iPhone. There's no way he'd bullshit this.

-1 # Except.... — Guest 2010-01-23 17:59

Except you have no way of knowing this is the real Geohot, it could be anybody with an internet connection. I'm calling BS, even if it is true(not likely) sony's always going to stay one step ahead. I am not giving up PSN just so I can play some 10 year old games, I have much better ways to do that.

# ... — Silver-Tiger 2010-01-24 08:45

I don't want to destroy your theory, but this is on his official blog and his twitter, so yeah, it's him.

# RE: ... — Guest 2010-01-23 19:52

Geohot released a software hack for the iphone/ipod touch. There was never any need for hardware changes. If the PS3 is in any aspect similar to its sister consoles, then the first exploit can be found through modchips. For now, I expect a long wait.

-9 # Excellent — Guest 2010-01-23 11:52

This is excellent. This definitely sound legit, and that means: HD Loader! Finally a reason to get a PS3 - free games!

Piracy is the ONLY way to go! I would never, ever support non-piracy!

+3 # RE: Excellent — Guest 2010-01-23 13:42

Gaming consoles aren't for poor people, you should know that.

# wow... — Earendur 2010-01-23 13:59

even if you believe that you dont yell it out like that...

# Fbi — lolwut? 2010-01-23 17:30

Will now be monitoring your ip address. GJ mate.

# lol — vizard00 2010-01-23 21:08

haha , pls send your best agents to my house i have many gifts for your u

# RE: Excellent — TheReaper 2010-01-23 19:09

2 things ps3 are to big to burn unless you Quoting sdads:

This is excellent. This definitely sound legit, and that means: HD Loader! Finally a reason to get a PS3 - free games!

Piracy is the ONLY way to go! I would never, ever support non-piracy!

2 things... this isnt like the psp... i dont think it would be cool or fun to do this with the ps3 because we would loose a lot of the good game programmers just like what happened with the psp... and if you were going to burn them it would take forever per copy.. (700mb around 1.2hours) and you would be putting out more money so it would be better to just buy them legit or wait 2 years till they are at $19.99 usd. vs $200+ just for the burner and $60+ (10x)for a good pack of discs...

# RE: RE: Excellent — Aces In The Palm 2010-01-24 02:42

Quoting plopthepspking:

2 things ps3 are to big to burn unless you Quoting sdads:
This is excellent. This definitely sound legit, and that means: HD Loader! Finally a reason to get a PS3 - free games!

Piracy is the ONLY way to go! I would never, ever support non-piracy!

2 things... this isnt like the psp... i dont think it would be cool or fun to do this with the ps3 because we would loose a lot of the good game programmers just like what happened with the psp... and if you were going to burn them it would take forever per copy.. (700mb around 1.2hours) and you would be putting out more money so it would be better to just buy them legit or wait 2 years till they are at $19.99 usd. vs $200+ just for the burner and $60+ (10x)for a good pack of discs...

what the hell is wrong with you idiots.
the xbox has been hacked since day dot.
are good games released for xbox?
you people are robots.
no good games are released for PSP because of piracy.......BULLSH!T
good games are released for PSP.
the crap games are because of lazy devs, not piracy
Wii=hacked
xbox360=hacked
think about it idiots

# Well — Guest 2010-01-24 13:13

There's a difference between the PSP and the XBox. A major one. Well two now I think about it.

First of all, the PSP is portable. Who ACTUALLY wants to carry around 10 UMDs when they go somewhere? At least the PSPGo is getting it right, but the ridiculous almost-PS3 price tag is putting many off. So yeah, I think it's safe to assume that many people pirate games because it's just so convenient. Like the difference between the old CD player Sony Walkman and an iPod.

Secondly, though, the PSP was also REALLY easy to hack, whereas the 360 is hardly newb friendly when it comes down to it.

# Lol — Guest 2010-01-24 23:53

What? A PSP you had to open the battery and resaulder it, at least that's what I did. The Wii was the easiest as blastshit to hack. Wii's security is a joke

But they're still rich as shit! Go figure! People are STUPID

+1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — TheReaper 2010-01-23 12:21

Like many people have said... "Know that the ps3 is so affordable now (more affordable), it will entice more dev to come and work on this system” OMG I can’t w8 to play my favorite NES Games on this XD!

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 12:48

For those bitching about the cost of the disc. They are around 6bucks on newegg so the price is not an issue. The size of 20gbs over the net is nothing. Either you live in backwater places with low internet connection, also tor's arn't the only way to get the files. A DC from IRC is alot faster from a good host.

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 12:52

LOL Ps3 Hacked :))

+2 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Kokuun 2010-01-23 12:52

I think the cooles homebrew on the PS3 (slim) could be a PS2 Emulator. That would be the only thing that I like to have...

Lets see, how true this story ist ;)

# RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — TheReaper 2010-01-23 12:59

and ps1 emu, and psp, emu, god... that would be great. **drool rolling down the face**

# RE: RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 17:31

You can already play PSOne games on the PS3. You can play PS2 games on the 20-60-and early 80 gig PS3's, and why would you want a PSP emulator anyway? They would look like shit on a PS3. They make PSP component cables for the anyway.

# RE: RE: RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — TheReaper 2010-01-23 19:13

im too lazy to go buy a component cable for my psp go

# poooooo — Guest 2010-01-23 21:00

would look better than snes/nes/any god damn 20 year old console hate people who think they are clever questioning what people say THEY would enjoy, just like me whinging at olypic gymnasts because i think they mays well just go the gym, people enjoy diffrent stuff get over it an stop thinking your clever trying to put people down, imagine if everyone was as pig headed as you NO emulators would exist what so ever coz emulators run on devices that have better output than the host device

# I'm Yay and Nay about this — Guest 2010-01-24 10:35

I've played NES on my HDtv and was pleased to have it in widescreen, streched a bit but nonetheless I still liked it.

# OMG — Guest 2010-01-24 23:55

DUDE, PS2 BACKUPS ! without paying 100$ for a freaking internet adapter for a ps2!

# legit — bradz7 2010-01-23 13:12

considering its from george then i believe him 100% sure it'll take him some time to hack it to the point where it is useful to people but i am confident he can do it now.
i always said i would never pirate ps3 games and i still stand by that. i really want some kick ass homebrew. xbmc or similar would be a dream come true. not to mention some emu's.

# Awesome — BryanNitro 2010-01-23 13:24

PS3 Hacked = Bye Bye Xbox you had a good run but sony is here to scrape up the rest of the xbox's as they RROD to oblivion.

-1 # RE: Awesome — Guest 2010-01-23 13:43

Xbox's don't get RRoD anymore.

This will surely screw the ps3 game sales.

+1 # RE: RE: Awesome — Walo 2010-01-23 15:29

Quoting QJ Visitor:

Xbox's don't get RRoD anymore.

This will surely screw the ps3 game sales.

you sure? because I swear I got one of those "unbreakable jasper" units and it RRoD'd on me.

anyway... this hack will be doomsday for the PS3 if gone public. I know there are legit uses for such a hack, but more people know about the "not so legit" uses for it also. The PS3 has done well as it is. I don't want it to go the "PSP way".

# RE: RE: RE: Awesome — your_fire 2010-01-23 20:10

i hate it when people say its dooms day and that they will lose producers and whatnot...look at the xbox and the wii..they were both hacked 50 years ago and they are still going strong..so if the ps3 got hacked..nothing will change..who will the producers go to..everything is hacked

+2 # RE: RE: RE: RE: Awesome — Aces In The Palm 2010-01-24 02:47

Quoting your_fire:

i hate it when people say its dooms day and that they will lose producers and whatnot...look at the xbox and the wii..they were both hacked 50 years ago and they are still going strong..so if the ps3 got hacked..nothing will change..who will the producers go to..everything is hacked

your_fire is the only here with a brain

# OMG — Guest 2010-01-24 23:56

Aces in the Palm is also another one with a brain

+2 # Modding Help's Console's — BryanNitro 2010-01-24 09:01

I know it sounds weird but I repair xbox's for a living 80% have been modded or were going to get modded it helps hardware sales which in the long run helps with software sales I can say 60% of the 80% that I have modded actually buy Xbox and PS3 and Wii wait scratch Wii its like paying $50 for a dreamcast game ha but back to the point from my experience modding helps consoles + the IPhone and Ipod touch's suck ass PSP FOR LIFE.

+1 # RE: RE: Awesome — Guest 2010-01-23 17:48

@QJ Visitor

360 and Wii have been hacked for ages, and people pirate the hell out of them. Does that stop game or hardware sales? Nope. I bet 90% of people still purchasing Wii because it's so easy to hack to add homebrew.

So no, this won't "b da endz of da ps3"

# He is Legit — Guest 2010-01-23 13:41

Yes guys my name is HolyForce and im also a ps3 developer my self. Geoshot did complete work on the ps3 and has partially hacked it. The main focus now is searching for the decryption keys which may be stored in its internal processor but were working on it. I myself have access to the the processor courtesty of an outsource and only time. Proof of concepts may be shown but will not be released to to leakage and Sony

# lol — Guest 2010-01-23 22:03

ps3 developer u say? why would u risk your job posting such a dumb comment?

# OMG — Guest 2010-01-24 23:57

Maybe he means a 'try to hack the ps3'-er and failed for last 5 years.

Doubt grammar like that would land a high paying legit PS3 development job.

# HOLY HELL — Guest 2010-01-23 14:03

GeoHot Did this ? thats fucking awesome ..

then again i see problems.. blackra1n caused a hell of a lot of problems on iPhones..

But Still this is nice..

but im not so sure about it, if piracy flies up on the PS3 i wont be two happy .. ill pirate games on any system except PS3.

# I hope it never gets released — ZackVix 2010-01-23 14:19

As much as I am happy about this hack, I hope it never gets released. Because if it does, then a lot of people will probably be pirating games which in turns will make it even harder for dev teams to make money and come up with wonderful games like Uncharted 1 & 2. Ys, it will be nice to play snes games and probably N64 games and whatnot, but I am sure people will not limit themselves to that. There will always be pirates.

So yeah, I sincerely hope that this never gets released.

# RE: I hope it never gets released — Guest 2010-01-23 17:53

How many people do you know that would download 15GB+ games and have a blu-ray burner? It took Wii a LONG while before you were able to play pirated games off of an external harddrive, so a homebrew that "lets you play games directly off HDD" won't be anytime soon for the PS3.

# OMG — Guest 2010-01-25 00:00

Hey well I'm gonna get a blu ray burner and do this myself sir.

"Harder for dev teams to make money"

Are you MAD? Do you have any fucking idea how freaking much money they make?

Do you have any fucking idea how hard they make it for new people to enter the field? They're practically monopolies sucking the money out of retarded consumers like YOU and getting richer and richer while negros down the street, hell, I can't even walk on the same sidewalk as them for fear of gettin robbed/jumped.

But it is the way it is

+2 # So good, yet so bad... — Cyric78 2010-01-23 14:19

As much as I love the sound of the PS3 being hacked (for full x264 support, mkv support, etc).. this will hoop the sales for games, which, in turn will hoop game development... I'm hoping that as they develop this hack, they can omit 'game backups', so they don't kill the game sales....

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 14:37

as long it can make my launch ps3 play ps2 imports like berserk that never made outside region 2...
otherwise playing ps2 and ps1 backup i dont think its anygood for ps3 huge game files unless you are using a 2terabyte harddrive and have the means do make a game iso and make it run...
yeah there is also the psn games
hm

+2 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 14:43

I think its legit

bite me haters, i dont give a fuck ^^

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 15:02

WOW!!! a lot of replies. Here we go. The walls will come crumbilng down. and the PS3, with the exeption of pirated games, will become the system we all know it can be. Full custome FW. Free personal dinamic backgrounds. Emulators. Any OS on other OS. And the list goes on my friends. I really hope GeoHot can mannage this.

# RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-25 02:25

You realise that the reason the PS3 can only run Linux is because of the processor right? The operating system needs to be compiled to run on the PS3 processor, which can be done in Linux because it's open source. How exactly do you intend to recompile Windows/Mac OSX to run on the PS3 if you don't have the source code?

# Schweet... — Specht 2010-01-23 15:04

All I really care about is modifying the hypervisor to allow graphics card support in Linux. I'm probably never gonna bother downloading 30-50GB PS3 titles and burn them to a $30 Bluray just to find they don't work. (which is one reason piracy won't be near as much a problem as other consoles)

OtherOS support for PS3Slims would be nice too.

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 15:16

I would just like it say this is awesome that the Ps3 is being hacked, it deffinatly will allow more homebrew. I agree with specht that who would bother downloading ps3 games that big, Its so stupid, I hardly think there would be any effect on ps3 game sales, or if any effect. Deffinatly would be awesome to have win xp or vista running on ps3

+1 # whoa guys — deadlyangel91792 2010-01-23 15:28

hacked doesnt mean its just for piracy think about all the homebrew/emulators im starting to get an erection just thinking about it.

+1 # mm — Guest 2010-01-23 15:42

I actually disapprove of this

for a start im happy to buy games for the ps3, theyre good games, and worth it, makes your appreciate them more

you couldnt appreciate any pirated game on the psp, it just put you of the psp, you wouldnt even play the games

i want homebrew on the ps3, however i would it legit, sony should do something similar to XNA, or apple (never thought id say that)
open the platform up.

Plus its just going to result in cheats or bans on the psn, never a good thing

+1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 16:10

ibelieve part of x60x success was it can be hack and a lower price....now ps3 can be hack...not to play ps3 games...but to get all kind of homebrew...well at least i hope that...

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 16:27

The only reason I would hack my PS3 is to for home-brew and most important to for is to customize the XMB. I have a hack PSP and have never pirated a single PSP game; I buy all my games, same for the Wii.

# ok then — Guest 2010-01-23 16:51

To all of you wanting another OS besides Linux because of this, it's not going to happen. The Processor in the PS3 is not compatible with Windows.
And who knows, maybe if this gets released it will force Sony to release a free SDK for us and let us run our unsigned code legitimately instead of having to hack it. Sure we wouldn't be able to modify a lot of the things we can do with the ps3 (in-game music and stuff) but we'd at least have other homebrews. Sony could just release it and say "Here's this! We don't support what you make though!" and have some sort of license to say "what ever happens is the developer's fault not ours. If your ps3 eats itself then decides it wants to throw itself back up don't call us and complain." That way they can keep us from FULLY unlocking the ps3. It's easy for them to add extra security so we can't run "backups" or modify any part of the ps3 or even get kernel mode (if that exists on ps3?). Maybe have all unsigned code be put into some weird...unsigned code mode? with full 3d support though please.

While they're at it they'd make one for psp too. so we might see something good from this. My two-bits.

# RE: ok then — Guest 2010-01-25 01:26

That's like handing a guy your car keys because you saw him trying to open your door.

Because we know all those psp updates were just to add cool features right?

+1 # Awesome — Guest 2010-01-23 17:04

My heart just skipped a beat!!

# It's legit! — MangoScango 2010-01-23 17:41

If you look at the blog, Its owned by the same geohot as the iPhone

I'm stoked

Piracy wont be as big of a problem, it still will be, but the 360 is pirated and it sells fine.

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 18:19

Seriously? I really hate the piracy kills consoles argument. It's dumb and untrue. The 360 is one of the most pirated systems available, yet they consistently have high sales. Why?

Maybe because Microsoft loves it. You can mod the system, they can then have a legitimate reason to ban it. You run right back out, buy a new one, but more Live subscriptions, buy more MSP, and help them out immensely. Do you think Microsoft gets holiday sells numbers from new owners? No, they save all of it up til November every year and go after everyone, right before Christmas shopping season. Imagine that. And they still some of the highest game sells.

Piracy may hurt the developer, but it is a blessing for console manufacturers.

# Take It !!! — Guest 2010-01-23 18:26

what would be great is if the emu lets us some how play psp iso on our ps3 that would be crazy and opening up to os that can us all the power of the ps3 would be bad ass i am sure alot of people would buy a ps3 just for the fact u get a super computer for 300 dollars i cant see how that could hurt sony

# It's Real — Guest 2010-01-23 18:47

Everyone here who's complaining about piracy should leave this site. You guys make it sound like you haven't pirated one game in your life. It's not like every PS3 owner in the world is gonna hack their consoles, it's a small concentrated group. If the 360 is hacked, and still selling increasing well then I guess it won't hurt the PS3 either. I just want Emulators, I would love to play Dreamcast games wherever I take my PS3.

@dontwannaloggi n- Not all games are heavily compressed idiot, check a torrent site,and do a comparison between MW2. It's about 1.2GB bigger, don't let fanboyism get in the way of truth

# huba — Guest 2010-01-23 19:03

-Most of the people who play solely pirates would not buy most of the games they pirate legally even if it was their only option
-Most of us are basement dwelling no life etc. Our opinions about everything are ignored by normal? people, except for totally unimportant things, like games. We play a game then create considerable buzz, encouraging casuals to buy
-Alot of people would rather buy a console knowing they have the option to pirate. I always prefer buying original, why the hell not. But in alot of cases this is not possible, or practical.
-Increased console means userbase, no? They might just need to work a bit harder to get money from the poor basement dwellers
-Wii>360>ps3 saleswise. See a trend here in terms of price AND homebrew?

You are going to say learn economics, blah blah. I say learn reasoning, etc

+1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 19:18

Now hopefully we can get some homebrew.

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — T-Max Blaze 2010-01-23 19:36

If we lose first party Devs like Naughty Dog and Guerrila games and Insomniac dued to PS3 piracy.....

# RE: RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-23 19:46

we will get the title for what console it comes no bother console war anymore guys, we already won over the pc scene now get to that OneConsoleSyste m ;D

# .. — Musev 2010-01-23 19:49

Maybe someone will make a wii emulator once the ps3's "wiimote" is released

# I don't know about this — Guest 2010-01-23 19:53

Part of me like others is happy that there is the ability to run homebrew.

I think this would be great as sony is excruciatingly slow and could never match the creativity and ingenuity on the same scale of the masses.

On the other hand though the word homebrew is always closely followed by piracy. Piracy is the only reason that the looks so negatively on the homebrew scene... it is a scourge.

In fact the only reason that it exists is due to the fact that homebrew developers etc. keep on creating applications that allow "back ups" to be made from the original game (recent not old retro roms that companies make no more profit from). This then leads to the abuse of the application in relation to its intended use.

maybe the decision not to create these apps will allow homebrewers to separate themselves from the pirates.

# well well well — Guest 2010-01-23 20:35

pretty awesome however pirating ps3 games is next to impossible what with the 25 and 50 gb sizes. what say ya"ll

# Who cares about PS3 piracy? — Guest 2010-01-23 20:49

If the ps3 running linux was totally un-restricted than its much better then any pc i have in my house at the min. I think the reason sony is bothered is because when they started making them there were making a loss of money on hardware and hoped to make it back with sales of software. So if it was hacked and ran other software than what sony were seling, why would anybody want to buy ps3 games when they could just play the latest pc games via linux

# I would honestly.. — xInSoMnIaTiCx 2010-01-23 21:11

Only use this to finally run those backups of PS1 games I have on my ePSXe emulator on my PS3, ability to use Linux or other OS installs at full power, and any emulator of other systems at the PS3's power disposal. BluRays cost up the ass, it wouldn't be worth the pirate. I'd rather just play the classics on a system that can overhaul them to their full potential. ePSXe on PS3 anyone?

# no way right now — vizard00 2010-01-23 21:12

this news is fake as a new Ps3 will comme soon , i dont see the point of this , hacking and geting the exploit blocked by a update , i think the best solution is 2nd NAND as a CHIP just like CYGnos for 360 , so if they menagfe to makeit then i can say sony is fucked .

# No...Just no — Guest 2010-01-23 21:38

:I

no

# Doomsday Propaganda... — Uplink 2010-01-23 21:55

Did people forget that the wii and the 360 are hacked too?? Why would the ps3 be the only one to fail if it was hacked...like the rest of them...that's just ridiculous. The only things that will come of hacking it will be more console sells.

# virtual machine.. — Guest 2010-01-23 22:03

I heard someone say that the ps3 doesnt have enought memory to run an emulated OS like windows...

ps3 memory
•256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
•256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

and someone said something about the cpu being incompatible with PC...

ps3 CPU
3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1 PPE & 7 SPEs

this should be able to emulate some great stuff...

# hell yes — sanek1 2010-01-23 22:58

i remember following up on him this month. i didnt know he'd have hacked the ps3 so soon. anyways this guy i slegit he has a name in theiphone community. i ccant wait to pirate all my fucking games

# Not About Piracy — Guest 2010-01-24 00:26

This is not about pirating games although it could be possible but very inneficient due to large game files. The main purpose would be to use the PS3 for homebrew and be able to use the PS3 as a fully operating computer that would be able to utilise all 7 of the ps3's SPU's on an operating system like linux. Plus we could use emulators and so much more.

# Homebrew improved the PSP — Guest 2010-01-24 01:19

Lets not forget that if it wasn't for homebrew developers working in the PSP Sony may have never added, internet radio, comic viewer, move video options, and even Themes. This can open the door to making the PS3 into an even better system than it is. Lets hope for some more video formats, hulu, RSS feeders, and more. This is a good thing even if it might let some people pirate games.

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Aces In The Palm 2010-01-24 02:29

Quoting QJ Visitor:

Yeah Xbox 360 is but the sales are sucessful and people don't moan about their prices, while with PS3 they do.

PSP has good games but just can't make good sales cuz of piracy.

you're an idiot
most my friends have PS3 and i have never heard one moan about price.
and guess what.....360 games cost THE SAME AMOUNT AS PS3 GAMES
really, grab a brain.

# Let Me Get This Correct... — Guest 2010-01-24 02:54

So this will allow putting Linux with FULL hardware access even to the RSX? That, I would like...

# yeah.... — Guest 2010-01-24 03:08

This will take a long time to work into something someone can actually use. But let's hope.

# finally? — Guest 2010-01-24 03:15

cool

# New PS3 update expected — Guest 2010-01-24 04:08

to be released by the end of the day.

+1 # RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — KylBlz 2010-01-24 04:17

lets hope the PS3 gets cracked wide open, but somehow no ISO loading

JUST homebrew and legit games. that would be awesome but i know it will never happen, just look at the PSP 3000 :(

# I think... — Guest 2010-01-24 04:42

...Sony should lay the hackers. Homebrew is a good thing even though I do not agree with ripping off games that are currently out for PS3. I would like to see a Dreamcast emulator and PS2 also. That would be awesome.

# RE: I think... — Guest 2010-01-25 01:30

wasn't there something in game informer a while back about Sony getting licensing rights to put some Dreamcast games up?
It was a while back

# it's aboooooooooout time. — Guest 2010-01-24 07:58

with this, now the PS3 sales will skyrocket and topple the sales of its older brother: the PS2.

# GG !!! — Guest 2010-01-24 08:38

GG !! Keep up the good work !!!

# ... — Silver-Tiger 2010-01-24 08:59

BS @ all the people who say games are too big to download.

If you take a whole 50GB DL Blu-Ray and you have a 16Mbit connection, which is very common these days, you only need 7(!) HOURS to download the game. If you can't even wait this long, you don't deserve these games. Come to to think of it, if you downlaod games, you don't deserve them anyway.
Buy your games, people.

# . — DSpider 2010-01-24 13:05

I don't know what internet connection you have. I can download stuff at 5-8 MB/s and I live in a third world country (Romania). Most games have bellow 15 GB anyway and there could also be some kind of CSO format like the PSP. Also, external HDDs are pretty cheap now... 500 GB would probably suffice for 15-30 games. Don't know about USB 2.0 speed tho, but think running backups off an SSD drive ! No loading times !!! And you could protect your games by not having to mess around with them (read: legit backups NOT piracy).

# ... — jgr9 2010-01-24 13:59

Lucky you. I'm in the US and where I am specifically, I'm still stuck with a 1.5Mbit connection. Sucks to be me.

# wow look at that — your_fire 2010-01-24 09:50

126 jumps!..historical

+3 # :O — Six And Nine 2010-01-24 10:43

There is a god.

# Until... — Guest 2010-01-24 12:33

Until he bans you from PSN.

# Ha :) — Guest 2010-01-24 11:38

"I've also dumped the NAND without removing it or a modchip."

I love how he says that like its no big deal. :)

# sony gonna block it quick — Guest 2010-01-24 12:16

itd be better for hombrew only

# Great for single player... — Guest 2010-01-24 12:31

But wait until you get hit by the ban hammer if you attempt to go online.

# pro — Guest 2010-01-24 14:04

sony -1

# maby? — Guest 2010-01-24 15:39

I think I am going to run homebrew alot on my ps3 but not pirate games (I dont want to use up that much bandwidth :) but even though i can rip the games to make them smaller) I am probably gonna run linux to its fullest and wach movies on it (media server as well)

# ........... — deadlyangel91792 2010-01-24 15:54

*casually strokes his erection

# Woa :o — Guest 2010-01-24 18:01

This is simply amazing, I highly doubt geohot would be lying about such a thing. This puts him up as probably the best there is out there in the homebrew community

# WOW — ElfyEikkal 2010-01-24 18:04

SO MANY COMMENTS!

# He's like the legend we all know. — DJ PON-3 2010-01-24 18:51

He's like Dark-AleX that never fails to attempt.

# Linux emulators — Guest 2010-01-24 19:16

Emulators are already Happening under the ps3, Just have a Phat ps3 and load up Linux and install a emulator that way, runs very well. Safe and easy if you know linux. Also comes with joypad support.

google "emulators ppc"

or

http://www.zophar.net/

Of course having the XMB hacked is also a dream come true, but whose willing to hack it, not me. It would be to expensive for me to even think about it, Yet. Give it 3 years.

# RE: Linux emulators — Guest 2010-01-25 02:28

True, but if it's hacked we'll have access to the GPU from Linux so you will be able to emulate more complex systems with better graphics.

# Hope it's real — DCX6000 2010-01-24 19:46

Running homebrew would be the only point of the hack. Also playing PSX games, and PS2 games from the internal memory. I think it may be legit, but I still do have my doubts.

# fark — Guest 2010-01-24 23:16

And I just bought myself a Wii for the homebrew emulators today! *mutters*

# a couple things — Guest 2010-01-25 02:35

1. Piracy will not kill the system. See 360 and Wii.
2. You will never be able to run Windows or Mac OS X on the PS3. They are closed source.
3. "Disagreeing" with this hack because of piracy is like disagreeing with knives because you can stab people with them.

# O: — Guest 2010-01-25 06:35

I wonder, since you can transfer stuff from PS3 to PSP (go in this case) there's the possibility of transferring them ISOs and CSOs to them PSPgo.

PS2 Emu would be so fucking awesome...

SNES, GBA, and maybe DS emulators yay.

I love homebrew.

# Its Real — Guest 2010-01-25 07:11

Ive been following george holtz for quite some time and I can say without a doubt it is legit. The kid has ego issues..but he does know his stuff. I am an Iphone owner and use his jailbreaks. If you google him you can find his twitter page. Just read all the back logs..

# i doubt it — Guest 2010-01-25 07:17

i doubt backups from the HDD would be possible . many games install and read from HDD during game. then it also has to read some data from the DISK ISO. ps3 in many situations with intesive games reads from both sources at one time.. it might be possible i dunno... personelly i want an IR shell on ps3. o yeah

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-25 07:42

Why is it whenever any rumours about the ps3 being hacked come about some twat has to bitch about how expensive it is to burn blu ray disks?

if you dont want to do it then dont

# I smell ban!! — Guest 2010-01-25 08:40

Just like the XBOX, they might get you and ban your online account! Let us hope not if anything happens with this.

# what is the point? — Guest 2010-01-25 18:05

Basically I read most of these comments and laughed.. It would be great to play a n64 game on ps3? are you a idiot? Its a next gen console that costs £250+ and you want a emulator for it? lmao go buy a game for ps3 you poor poor people and if your that desperate for old games buy the old consoles instead of buying a 250 pound one retards.

-1 # lmao!!! — Guest 2010-01-26 01:12

lol you idiot, playing with old consoles would mean using AV cables, so you would get real crap quality, with the ps3 you could play N64 games and make them look better than they ever had (although you can already do this with a computer + hdmi connection to an hdtv), but not everyone has an hdmi-capable PC, so this would offer a nice alternative. Not even Nintendo has released a way to play oldies at 720p, much less 1080p, as their crappy Wii console only reaches a max of 480p, which is just pathetic. With that said.. EMULATORS FTW!

+1 # iso practically or not? — Guest 2010-01-25 23:03

First all of whether the hack is real or not is a question we will all have to wait and see.

Will the hack allow to run a burnt BD-R game disk? or maybe run ISO off a hard drive? Also I am not discussing the morality of whether it is right or wrong. I'm just discussing what is practical in either situation.

Some complain that neither option is practical. Maybe for some I can understand.

I believe to have a collection of ISO's on hard drive is very practical. A TB drive is not that expensive compared to the price of very few games. Yes many games are large in size. In other systems some games are "scrubbed" of content that is felt to be unneeded in order to reduce size. Even with very large game, I honestly could download them in a reasonable time with my 20 Mb connection a using Rapidshare account or Usenet. I live in a small city, but I know that many people in some areas I've seen have a 50 Mb connection or maybe more. Sometimes I can download a gigabyte in almost half an hour. Load it up, go to sleep and its ready.

# true — Mil-GZ 2010-01-28 01:38

I have a insane connection I can dl a gigabyte in 8min so yeah this is very practical is it right or wrong I leave to the masses

# RE: PS3 hacked by iPhone dev? — Guest 2010-01-31 00:42

i play online so much on my ps3 and am werryed that this hack will make it were i cant do that. has anyone else done this yet and if so were u still able to get online?

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