i really hope they never hack the ps3 we have seen wat happend to the PSP...i mean comon if that happends to the PS3 then i guess its going down like the psp. but anywho they talk the talk and i hope they never walk the walk..im no hater but i dont want people to hack the ps3 because of the damage it will inflict on both sony and the game makers

i don't mind it getting hack, how many of us are willing to wait download 25+ gb for one game. it's just not practical. as for the psp, now that's different, the files are smaller

but there will always be idiots that will

i must say that there is no way that sony will allow the full hacks and cfw for the ps3..its just to dangerous

I never udnerstood this bandwith thing so thanks for the explanation. I dont think i have a bandwith because if so my step father would have killed me since i download Gb's of data on a daily basis. Whether its HD movies or whatever i download. I don't like to be called a pirate(i know i am... i do not pirate games though) but i purchase atleast 70% of what i download. Im just saying i dont think i have a bandwith because i would have been brutally murdered by my step father because the bill would be like $364636346 lol And i do hope the ps3 is not hacked because just look what happened to the psp.....

Resistance 15+

I have call of Duty 4 at 15+

Oblivion 14+

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 11+



So not as big as 20, but high enough to be inconvenient. Don't think they couldn't just write in complexities and redundancies with relationships that are hard to get around.



Also seriously people I found the PS2 to be way a way higher percent pirated than the PSP, and the PS2 was a huge success. PSP was just a first gen console. Sony will get a better chance next time around. Sure piracy has had an impact of the PSP but of each person I have met anywhere that owns a PSP they have no idea what the word "homebrew" or "ISO" means.



All Sony has to do is keep piracy so the learning curve is steep enough for the masses to never want to learn it.

It would be great if Sony could create a retro market through PSN, because what I like to use hacked stuff for is emulators. Playing SNES or Megadrive games on the PSP is fantastic, but if Sony could do the deals on either Virtual Console or Arcade games, I'd be all over it.



Of course, I have the Wii and 360 respectively for those, but it couldn't hurt Sony to get these features onto its own network.

This will kill the PS3. Don`t you see that everytime a console gets hacked they develop a new one. The ps1 was replaced by ps2 when that got hacked they produced ps3 and this will just continue until people stop using backup games.

Yes I think it`s fine for psp but not ps3. The psp goes hand in hand with ps3 and hacked psp`s have lead to lots of ps3 sales. So call the psp the loss leader in this situation. But please don`t jump on this because we just don`t need it. Ps3 rocks without stupid hacks and exploits.

Do any of us need this? I think not.

So Pointless Babble and Crying from people in my life. If you halfwit's think that the PS3 will be killed by simple piracy then you fail at life. EVERY other system on the market is hacked. Yet They are still strong in the games market. IF ANYTHING this will sell more units and help the system out in the long run. As for this Bandwidth thing you guys are talking about...Sucks for you as I move about 4tb a month in date over my connection already L2Findabetteris p.



Yarr we pirates be setting our sails, and where aiming for the PS3.

As for the size problem: They have already explained the way around this issue. They are not using an .ISO file, but they take the whole disk as a normal file system with all folders and so on, so not summarized to a single .ISO file.



As of the bandwidth problem:

I wonder what providers you have, but at least here in Germany, it's pretty cheap. I am paying 25%u20AC/month (around 36$) and I have 16000 Kbits/sec and no bandwidth limit.



What I really hope is that this will never lead to a backup running method on a retail console, but like we can see ATM, such insolent *****s like the guys from PS3news ( BTW, these are the same people who tried to steal Dark_AleX's work!)

will always try to pirate the games without paying to the developers.

Seriously, there is no excuse for Blu-Ray backups.

why do you think they are made scratch-proof?

Exactly, so they are not having reading problems anymore. You need a hefty amount of power to break them and if that happens it's your own stupid fault.



Now if there would be Homebrew WITHOUT backup loaders, I would love to see that running on my console, but I am pretty sure this will never happen... -.-



Homebrew would be cool, but I am not risking to brick my PS3 with this process or to be banned from PSN just because of CFW.

I hope this is real!

those people who play piracy really don't care about all these

when ps2 was hacked, the same question was asked. how many of us are willing to wait download 4+ gb (dvd) for one game. ps1's different, the files are smaller (cd). network is getting faster and faster, in 25+ gb is not really a big deal now.

everybody complains.... listen if you like it cool, if you don't thats fine as well. everybody bought the piece of equipment and it is up to you what you do with it. So stop complaining about what Dev's are doing, and just play your 0 system and think of the way you felt the first time you turned it on.

Not to mention, when the PS2 was hacked the PS2 remained a STRONG SYSTEM.



Any moron who thinks the PSP is the way it is because you can run pirated games on it, is very ignorant.



Xbox was hacked, 360 was hacked, PC was hacked....all VERY STRONG systems.



I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt.

Someone already beat me to the 4GB nonsense.



As for PS3News stealing anything from Dark_AleX....every news post I ready about Dark_AleX on the PS3News site, they gave him full credit for any work he's done.



I don't care about playing backups but I do care about messing around with my save files. I hope it's hacked enough so we can decompile our saves and make them usable again after playing with them.

The PS3 is hacked!!!! OH NO!!!!!!! Get ready for the PS4!!!!!!

Anything not proven is rumor however PS3News has released their work in the past. Head on over there and start downloading.



Anyway, your comment makes no sense, usually fake until proven? So at first it's fake but once it's proven then it magically turns from fake to real?.....hum....

Well it's about time I buy a ps3! And ISOHAVEN if we want 2 dl games we have the right 2 can't wait 2 play gta4 and mgs4 on my hdd

I want emulators darn it. Give me Donkey Kong!

People are actually doing whats right, and you think thats wrong? Maybe your the one reading too much things on the internet because if you actually use your damn system for what its meant for then people wouldnt need to do all this hacking for games.



Just because OTHER systems got hacked and they were still strong dosnt mean its all fine and dandy for the PS3 to get hacked.



How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing.

"I wish people would EDUCATE themselves and stop believing all the crap they read on the iNEt."



So I find out how to NOT hack off the internet and people, and its crap?? Am I supposed to educate my self that hacking the system is ok, just because other systems made it like the ps2 and ps1, because the last time I checked this is a new day and age. Look at what happen to the psp, the ps3 is the same in the way that they would hack it so I dont see how it'll be any better.



"How bout you EDUCATE yourself on doing the right thing instead of the cheap thing."

You'll have to explain yourself on this one. How am I doing "the cheap thing" by stating FACT about past console history? Get a clue bud!!!"



Dont know how you didnt understand this, but what I'm saying is that hacking in general (not talking to you directly) isnt what the system is meant for. People who think getting free games isnt illigal are wrong, its piracy and if I was a developer I'd be pissed as hell if people wanna take the cheap way out and get my games for free. Developers work hard to make games yet people can just download them and not actually give them their well deserved money.



If people want homebrew how bout they get a damn job and make their own console, because the PS3 and all other systems that were hacked are not there's, its Sony's or who ever made the system.

All the games you listed are smaller than 20 GB because every game you listed is either a PC/360 game and/or a multi-platform game. This means their size has to be constrained to fit the DVD limit.

"So I find out how to NOT hack off the internet and people, and its crap??"

What the hell are you talking about? Are you even in this conversation?



"Am I supposed to educate my self that hacking the system is ok just because other systems made it like the ps2 and ps1"

No, idiot. You're supposed to educate yourself to understand that what OTHER people do with a system WILL NOT affect your experience.



", because the last time I checked this is a new day and age."

Good for you.



"Look at what happen to the psp"

Nothing happened! The PSP in itself is NOT a successful system. HALF OF ITS INTENT FAILED. UMD FAILED. The drive is so slow, it's the #1 cause of people ditching their PSP. Piracy did NOTHING to the PSP.



"the ps3 is the same in the way that they would hack it so I dont see how it'll be any better."

The PS3 is the same, the Xbox is the same, the PS2 is the same.....IT'S ALL THE SAME. How are you not getting this? Your main argument is that the PSP is not xbox or PS1 or PS2...it's a new age....well guess what! The PS3 is NOT the PSP either. Your own main argument works AGAINST YOU. You fail all around.



"Dont know how you didnt understand this, but what I'm saying is that hacking in general (not talking to you directly) isnt what the system is meant for."

And? What the hell is your point here? Who CARES what the system was intended for. The bottom line is that what other people do with it DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.



"People who think getting free games isnt illigal are wrong, its piracy"

Again, that has NOTHING to do with this conversation.



"and if I was a developer I'd be pissed as hell if people wanna take the cheap way out and get my games for free."

Good for you! Get pissed off all you want. IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU.



"Developers work hard to make games yet people can just download them and not actually give them their well deserved money."

This is where your ignorance shows. Do you have ANY CLUE how many people actually copy games for a SPECIFIC system instead of buying that game? That number is so ridiculously small it's moot.



"If people want homebrew how bout they get a damn job and make their own console"

Wow! You sure have all the answers don't ya! That comment here is about as worthless as it gets.



"because the PS3 and all other systems that were hacked are not there's, its Sony's or who ever made the system."

That's where you are wrong. This is NOT a leased system. It's a PURCHASED system. The only ammo Sony has is that it's a federal crime in the US to circumvent digital rights protection.



You want to know what I think is hilarious? People are going to do whatever they want to with the system. You obviously dislike that. But it's going to happen anyway regardless of how you feel about it..... that is so damn funny! HAHAHA!!!!!! Nothing you say will get you what you want. Live with that!

1. You assume there is still a warranty? Why?



2. In order for you to show reasonable damage to a company you first need to establish how many pirates are actively engaging in piracy on a specific console versus paying customers.



So please, cough up the numbers for us.

" usually fake until proven?" Yes i said it. What it Means is Unless the Release this its not real just hearsay. And yes i agree they have released there work (as well as others work recoded to say its theres) They also tried to say They made DAX firms with HIS codes on there psp site. I can hardly believe that those text editing tards hacked the ps3.

actually most ppl buy the psp as a media player,so yes that's why game sales aren't that good.It has nothing 2 do with the psp cfw.Sony really should've

made better portable games like the DS instead Of ps2 ports.that's why the psp is pretty much used as an ipod, hackers actually helped the psp with emulators and applications.

i really wish they would stop trying to hack the ps3. this is the last thing this console needs. sure the xbox was hacked but it was already losing the race and it also stopped you from going on live. same for the 360. the wii was hacked but the majority of its user base doesnt know hot to or want to do that. the pc was hacked but as you can see that medium is almost dead. ps2 was hacked but by then nearly everyone had one and not many could go out and by plus install a flip magic.

if you want emulation then just play them on your pc that is probably 5 feet away from your ps3. i for one am not about to risk 500+ dollars so i can play a crappy homebrew game or an emulation i can do on my psp or pc, THAT ARE ALL IN THE SAME ROOM!

You don't know what you are talking about. PS3News is not a group working on the PS3. There are DEVs in connection with the news site that are working on the PS3. They have nothing to do with the PSP. They give their news exclusively to PS3News.

being able to hack th ps3 also means the extenstion of backwards compatability, becuase the difference between the 80gb and 60 gb is that the bc is used through software, not hardware, so hacking the ps3 will probally allow us to enable this software on the 40 gb.

If I buy PS3, then I still have to keep my PS2 which is abour ready to fall apart.



***** that *****. No Backward, No money from me.

First off let me say I've been a "scener" for years...I must absolutely agree with ISOHaven. Hacking a console (in it of itself) does NOT harm a console...if anything it HELPS boost hardware sales in many cases. The PSP is a piece of ***** (which i purchased) and if it wasn't for homebrew it wouldn't even be used...which it barely is anyways. Having the ability to run bootlegs can hurt a console, but MARGINALLY. Nothing that would really hurt them to the extent some ignorant people here say! The one idiot who said companies release a new console after one gets hacked...thank you - I had a hardy laugh at the stupidity in that comment.



Once you OWN a console...it's YOUR PROPERTY. You can do whatever you damn well please with it. Should I choose to piss on it, it's MINE! WHO CARES?!? Downloading bootlegs to me is a form of free "try before you buy". Is it legal...not in most places, but I support GOOD GAMES. *****ty ports of games which devs have NO RIGHT CHARGING 50-60 bux for is a rip-off. They, in my opinion, deserve to be bootlegged to teach them a lesson in ripping off the consumers they rely on to make money. Keep in mind...this is MY OPINION - And many disagree with it - I can respect that...but I also hold myself to a personal promise to purchase games I like (for example the whole GTA series). I've downloaded Liberty City, liked it, and bought it (for the PSP!!)



With that said - Hacking a console is NOT soley for running backups/bootlegs. Does anyone have an original XBOX running XBOX MEDIA CENTER? If you do...then YOU know what I am talking about. My XBOX is STILL being used BECAUSE of that! (Yes the PS3 has network capabilities, but they SUCK compared to how great XBMC is...you can stream over the network pretty much ANY format...even stuff that's still RAR'd into 50+ files!) Once you unlock the potential of a console...especially one that is SOO POWERFUL LIKE THE PS3...it gives you the option to do what ever you want with it!



People that sit there and ASSUME that it ONLY LEADS TO PIRACY are probably the same type of IDIOTS that say Guns are bad because they kill people (for example). The reality is - ANYTHING can be used for wrong or illegal purposes if it's in the hands of a person who is intending to do something illegal with it.



To limit the PS3 to only work the way Sony envisioned...well that's fine and all if YOU want to...but I've seen the potential that GOOD homebrew has, and the AWESOME stuff they can produce. It's free and it makes my $500 console even MORE useful. If you choose not to do it - good for you! I , for one, am always hacking away at my electronics to get the most bang for the buck (I mean...my PSP plays DOS games AND it's a universal remote)



I'm just wondering - How many of you "Anti-PS3 Hackers" have installed Linux on your PS3? If you're sitting there wondering "Why the hell would I want to do that anyway?!" - then you're thinking with the wrong mentality. Keep buying games at the store and playing them on your PS3 - Don't worry about the PS3 hacking scene and you'll be happier that way.

Do you know any place to get homebrew besides xbins? Since most of the sites are abandonned or converted to 360 sites, xbin is the only place I know :(