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PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed

Posted Mar 31, 2010 at 10:20PM EST by Ryan F.

Listed in: PS3 Tags: firmware update, Geohot, playstation 3 updates, SCE, Sony

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Yes folks, the highly controversial firmware update of the PlayStation 3 that disables the "Other OS" feature is now live.

Announced earlier this week, the update strips the “Install Other OS” feature of the older generation phat models that caused quite an uproar in the PS3 community. According to Sony, this move is needed to "ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system", but some believe this is connected to geohot’s hacking the PS3 way back in January.

Thanks to dPaulski, Ransom, Slavicc and Farris for the tips!

Via [US PlayStation Forums]

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Then, now that we can get inside, we'll make our own software for the hardware YOU just rightfully stated we own...

Karma's a bitch, SONY... you just started what happened to the PSP and took it to a whole new level... and... I got web WITHOUT updating (now aka removing features... thought that was usually considered downgrading...?)

# Yea! — aperson2 2010-04-05 19:10

Exactly, it's in the T&C that you agreed to by buying and using the console. They have the right to change anything as they wish.

When you bought a PS3 you bought;

Playstation 3 hardware
T&C that includes the ability to play licensed games*

*Which Sony can change at any point. If they wanted to block a game from running they could, say if it contained malicious code or contained sensitive data (think Hot Coffee mod).

# you cant pay for something free — Guest 2010-04-02 11:17

How can you have paid for free PSN? You may have bought a ps3 becausse PSN was free, which is certainly better than the alternative, but its sony service. whether or not they charge a fee is 100% entirely up to them, and they can start charging 100 bucks a year if they want. Whether you choose to continue to support them, thats the only place you have any say.

Now the other OS removal is complete bull, seeing as i can see some people actually having bought a system for that purpose

# ... — Guest 2010-04-03 14:29

So by your logic, it's perfectly okay for Sony to render every PS3 unable to play BluRay movies in the future should they so wish?

Because it's not, and what they've done here is EXACTLY the same thing on a slightly smaller scale. Just because it has less of an impact, doesn't mean it's justified. Don't overthink this, you'll just end up confusing yourself. The simple truth of the matter is that Sony have misled millions of customers.

# WHOOP WHOOP — Matt-N 2010-04-03 06:08

LAW STUDENT ALERT.

Fail.

# We can figh this — Guest 2010-04-07 12:34

join facebook group Removal of "Other OS" feature, on PS3 is unacceptable

we will make a list there and I will sned it to sony.

here is the link
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108458319185510&ref=nf

# Whats Next? — Guest 2010-04-07 22:12

whats next, removing the ability to strem video?!?!

# Oh, god. — Xeinix 2010-03-31 23:44

Here it comes. The back and forth stupidity between hackers and Sony that we've come to know on the PSP. Please don't let it kill this system. Sony people need to chill. I am personally going to wait to upgrade since I'm just going to be playing Just Cause 2 anyway. We'll see where this leads...

+7 # RE: Oh, god. — Snaku 2010-04-01 00:09

Wow. I seriously thought it was a joke. I just didn't believe that Sony would really do something this stupid.

I really hate litigation and all that, but I seriously hope somebody sues them over this. They should have to refund the original purchase price to everybody with a phat (and of course they wouldn't want to do that, so they should give in and put the other os back).

-2 # Again — Sinnerswake 2010-04-01 19:31

You do not own the code to the software that runs on a PS3. Why do people think that a console is different from any other software. Microsoft and Apple update ...their... software to stop security issues all the time. This is no different. If any person seriously thinks that installing linux was paid for in the PS3 price tag then they are idiots. It was a feature. Owned by Sony, run by Sony and ultimately to be deleted by Sony if they so choose. A la someone has hacked our hardware. Seriously I'm getting sick of this Sony bashing because their console can no longer use Linux. Buy a computer. For a lot less money.

+1 # RE: Again — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-04-02 06:39

Quoting Sinnerswake:

You do not own the code to the software that runs on a PS3. Why do people think that a console is different from any other software. Microsoft and Apple update ...their... software to stop security issues all the time. This is no different. If any person seriously thinks that installing linux was paid for in the PS3 price tag then they are idiots. It was a feature. Owned by Sony, run by Sony and ultimately to be deleted by Sony if they so choose. A la someone has hacked our hardware. Seriously I'm getting sick of this Sony bashing because their console can no longer use Linux. Buy a computer. For a lot less money.

Yeah but what if Sony was about to release PS4 and decided to say "we don't want to support PS3 anymore" and they release an update that people think is something good and it turns out it disables their system entirely, forcing you to not be able to play PS3 games? I know that sounds evil, but what do you think would happen?

-1 # RE: RE: Again — Musev 2010-04-02 11:33

That would be illegal in some countries.
it was sold to you to play games and watch blu rays, so must it do. they cant intentionally break it legally just because they own the rights to thier software and wont because what would be the point?

+1 # RE: RE: RE Again — EarthBoundX5 2010-04-02 22:22

It was also sold to run linux via the other os feature. It is the exact same thing as if they removed the ability to play games or blu-ray.

+1 # RE:RE:RE:RE Again — Guest 2010-04-03 20:38

Roger that. It was under the list of official features, right beside CD/DVD/Blu-Ray playback, Backwards Compatibility, and web browsing...

+1 # RE: RE: RE: Again — Guest 2010-04-02 23:52

Not to mention that Sony shipped the PS3 as a computer system allowing import tax breaks in some countries(game consoles cost more). They deliberately circumvented duty/tax laws in these countries and hopefully some will make them pay for the crime, although Sony must certainly have felt this out legally.

# RE: RE: Again — Miclowgunman 2010-04-02 11:38

no one would buy the ps4...

-1 # RE: RE: Again — Guest 2010-04-02 13:05

Yea in Lala Land.... grow up and figure out how businesses run... Your product gets hacked... you put in security measures...

You all are too busy thanking Geoholtz for hacking and telling Sony "You should thank Geoholtz"... where the logic in that?

# but — Ricochet__ 2010-04-08 11:13

i bought the ps3 because of all the features it had INCLUDING other o.s. which i use for legit reasons
if there was a security problem then its on sony to fix the problem,not take the option away so they just dont have to worry about it
i paid for THAT option as well as many others
PAID is the keyword, if they go back on that AFTER i PAID for it, then they should have to give FULL REFUNDS
as far as buyin a pc if i wanted to use a other os, well it says sony computer of america,and that option was meant to make people believe they could use the ps3 as a pc if they choose to,so it was intentially used to misslead consumers to purchase this spacific product
im pretty sure the other o.s. feature was meant for the computer part of sony computer of america , which is o yea, on the ps3 box!

-1 # @Sinnerswake — CheckMate0289 2010-04-03 01:46

exactly same thing we needed to suck up and deal with like the removal of backwards compatibility we didn't pay for the technology (those of us with 40gb models) so we don't get the technology. We didn't pay for the "Other OS" feature to begin with so so it was taking and nothing we can do with it. You have a choice, don't update! The only thing you can't do is log in nothing else is forcing you to. If you enjoy linux that much then you can't miss PSN. It's not like you pay for that either and have to deal with getting refunds. I bought my system to play games and bought a computer to type things like this

(ps3 browser...eh not so much but hey its free also) This should only effect the nerds which are also the ones who would open their system up for geohot's mod, so if they are that mad about this they can go bye bye with the feature the scene won't miss them. "R is for naughty movies and pirates!"

# ok — Ricochet__ 2010-04-08 11:18

for 1 , yes theres a way to login to psn even if you dont update, 2 we shouldnt have to do it that way because we paid for it all , and 3
the MAIN reason i bought a ps3 was FREE ONLINE which they offered as well for life
thus makin the diffrence between buyin a 360 and buyin a ps3
soon even that wioll be taken away , its gonna cost to go online and the web browser is going to be next to go , im pretty sure,but eh , who am i anyways, im just the guy who dishes out alot of money for this shit just to get bitch-slaped by the corp as a ty

+1 # Computer — Guest 2010-04-04 22:34

Find me a cheaper computer with a cell processor and we'll talk otherwise QFT.

# Btw — Xeinix 2010-04-01 04:31

Whats with the minus :). I don't hate the home-brew scene on the PSP, I hate the way SONY treats it. They just don't want to let it live, so they spend their resources on killing it (and piracy with it) instead of on cool new features and good games for the awesome little handheld. Just don't want the same to befall my PS3.

And I totally agree with Snaku about the whole sueing thing (although probably not possible because we agreed to some stupid terms of use agreement when buying/using our PS3). This is totally unfair to people who own phats. What are they going to do next take out backward compatibility to increase profits on PSN classic titles?

+2 # Stupid sony — Guest 2010-04-01 06:02

Now that you've mentioned it, you just gave Sony another idea to screw phat users. hahahahahaha

+2 # i tell you whats next — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 10:53

Quoting Xeinix:

Whats with the minus :). I don't hate the home-brew scene on the PSP, I hate the way SONY treats it. They just don't want to let it live, so they spend their resources on killing it (and piracy with it) instead of on cool new features and good games for the awesome little handheld. Just don't want the same to befall my PS3.

And I totally agree with Snaku about the whole sueing thing (although probably not possible because we agreed to some stupid terms of use agreement when buying/using our PS3). This is totally unfair to people who own phats. What are they going to do next take out backward compatibility to increase profits on PSN classic titles?

next thing to go is browsing

+2 # RE: Oh, god. — Snaku 2010-04-01 05:08

Y'know, I've been pretty loyal to Sony ever since the psx. I liked the way they did things better, and I was especially happy when ps2 games didn't stop coming out right after the ps3 released. My ps2 didn't turn into a paperweight overnight like my xbox did. Then they took bc out of newer systems and I was annoyed, but at least I had a launch 60 so I was fine.

Now this. I haven't used Linux on my ps3 but it was always something I was going to get around to eventually. Right after I decided I had $100 or so to burn to buy a bigger hdd for it (or however much a 500g hdd would cost). It's not like I bought the ps3 BECAUSE it could do linux, but I always liked the idea. And now I can't.

F*** Sony! That's the last freakin' Sony product I ever buy. I hope the ps3 does get hacked: I'll pirate every game from then on just to stick it to them (ok, probably not: I'm betting hacked ps3's will be blocked from psn, and I'm not gonna' give up my lbp).

Is there anything constructive we can do? Whining is great and all, but it's not gonna' bring back other os. A class action suit (or even any lawsuit) would be awesome, and I hope it happens, but I'm not going to be the one to pull the trigger (and foot the bill). Maybe if everybody inundates them with e-mails, they'll reconsider. Any idea where we send the e-mails to?

# RE: RE: Oh, god. — Guest 2010-04-02 12:59

Your the reason why Sony had to make updates =)... thanks for being the cause

# this sucks — itsDario 2010-03-31 23:46

my brother updating right now >_>
i use the other os as a backup when i can get to my normal computer for some reason

+1 # RE: this sucks — Neko Kyu 2010-04-01 10:38

Download and burn an ubuntu live disk. use it if your windows install ever goes haywire. Its a very good thing to have, as it allows you to boot ubuntu desktop environment from the disk, and allows you to access your hard disks, the internet and whatever. :3

# .. — Ryan F. 2010-03-31 23:47

I guess Sony is for real, any "phat" owners can confirm the update?

+6 # I updated — GH[ ]ST 2010-04-01 00:41

I don't understand why Slims had to update lol. What else was done with the firmware?
Will it turn it's self on and sing happy April Fools day while I'm asleep? lol

+3 # F****! — chuck.fx 2010-03-31 23:50

the update is mandatory! =(
this is a dangerous move Sony... be careful

+1 # RE: F****! — Vman00 2010-04-02 00:48

Quoting chuck.fx:

the update is mandatory! =(
this is a dangerous move Sony... be careful

Bypass it. That is what I did a few hours ago and now I'm playing MAG

# Something isn't right in the force — GH[ ]ST 2010-03-31 23:55

For some reason I feel like Sony is Removing the feature due to security problems but are already on a replacement. New OS option to come the is more secure and maybe even faster? Just seems like Sony is keeping a secret. Hurry up E3!

# RE: Something isn't right in the force — Guest 2010-04-01 00:01

duh.. New OS..

-5 # duuh — chuck.fx 2010-04-01 00:14

yeah they're called 3-D and move... do you live on mars or what?

+4 # wtf? — fearlubu 2010-04-01 00:19

he was talking about a replacement or a superior OS option, not whats going to be shown at E3 you dumbass

+3 # Thanks — GH[ ]ST 2010-04-01 00:25

Lol Thank fearlubu, there's always a smart@ss that's gotta always speak.

# lol — chuck.fx 2010-04-01 05:04

yeah i know, i was being a smartass. i apologize

# TWatt — K3b4b5t4r 2010-04-01 05:08

loll Twatt

# yeah — Guest 2010-04-01 00:01

maybe its just temporary, they may fix

# yeah — Guest 2010-04-01 00:01

maybe its just temporary

+3 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 00:03

i'mma just play offline for a week or 2. Hopefully GeoHotz releases his cfw to get around this sooner than that

.....and FCUK you sony!!!!!

# so... — Guest 2010-04-01 00:04

so in the long run i tried the other OS and was only doin it cause of future support... So the bad news about other OS came sometime earlier anyhow with the fact that Sony was no longer supporting it...

givin that I moved on then and can move on now..

only thing I sure hope taking it out gives way to a more pimped out xmb and ps3 update soon ... Cross Game chat people...

I know you all are gona say it will never happen or my coments are lame but hey you dont matter either....

-1 # yup it does remove it — Guest 2010-04-01 00:06

i updated and it gave me a warning that installing firmware will remove OS gave me option how to back up my install OS lol oh well it was bound to happen sooner or later cant complain about it

+1 # WOW REALLY??!!! — Guest 2010-04-01 00:06

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!
Last straw dude im fuckin done with sony dude fuck them
never again
im done with playstation fuck that dude

# ur right — Guest 2010-04-01 00:09

they do like keeping secrets

+1 # Size of firmware? — Guest 2010-04-01 00:10

Anyone knows the filesize of this firmware? It's seems to be downloading very slowly.

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 00:20

i did the update it doesn't affect me what so ever

+3 # Proxy Bypass — Guest 2010-04-01 00:21

Just download PS3 Proxy or Logan5 tool. You can play online without having to update firmware.

-3 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 00:24

lol phat owners got owned! good thing i own a slim.

# Firmware update — Guest 2010-04-01 00:31

For those experience slow downloading speeds, I found out that is firmware update is a whopping 163.85 MB. For those who want to download faster, you can get it and put it on a USB at the following:

http://dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/update/ps3/image/us/2009_1210_54ee80e14e479f8351a988eb9a472072/PS3UPDAT.PUP

+1 # WHAT — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:10

Um...who the hell wants to download it FASTER? Wait, who here wants to download it at ALL?

*crickets chirp*

Thought so. Thank you for sharing though, jonx :)

+2 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — BryanNitro 2010-04-01 00:35

I start loving sony then they fuck up and we are back to square 1. I love playing my emulators on my PS3 I show off to my friends look I can play without having to jtag an xbox.

# PSP — GH[ ]ST 2010-04-01 00:39

I leave the emulators to my PSP.
I enjoy having a portable emulator that can hook up to my screen. But having to take up space and it not being portable would kill me you get what mean?

-3 # ? lol — zzk2001 2010-04-01 02:00

with a softmod xbox you can play all Emulators, But i am guessing you mean 360 seeing as you said jtag LOL Sad when people say xbox and mean 360.

+3 # RE: ? lol — Musev 2010-04-01 06:04

No! its sad when peolple say things like you did.

# RE: RE: ? lol — Guest 2010-04-01 10:50

It's sad to read the 2 threads above mine. Can I sue you for lost time?

-1 # sad — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 10:59

Quoting zzk2001:

with a softmod xbox you can play all Emulators, But i am guessing you mean 360 seeing as you said jtag LOL Sad when people say xbox and mean 360.

its sad when idiots like yourself know people mean 360 when they say xbox because your in denial about it
its also sad that xbox drama-queens come to the ps3 forum of qj and speak bout shit that know nothing about because theres nothing happening in the 360 section

-1 # sad — Guest 2010-04-01 22:45

It's sad when the ps3 drama-queesn come to the xbox 360 forum and speak shit.

Still, I own both so I'm happy

-1 # RE: ? lol — Guest 2010-04-03 19:39

what is sad is fucking losers like you commenting about xbox and 360 u fuck face loser

+2 # Oh hai — Dragoon 2010-04-01 00:41

April foo-

Oh, sh*t. You're srs?

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 00:43

Sooo..now that they removed that, I want my 10GB of space for the PS3. Anyone know if formatting the drive after 3.21 it will use the full HDD and not leave 10GB out?

-1 # u HAVE to — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:01

Quoting Janis:

Sooo..now that they removed that, I want my 10GB of space for the PS3. Anyone know if formatting the drive after 3.21 it will use the full HDD and not leave 10GB out?

backup all your shit and reformat compeltely to get your 10 gig back
it tells you everything you need to know on the playstation.com boards

+1 # ... — Guest 2010-04-01 00:45

Gotta hate it..

-1 # Wouldn't if be funny if... — Guest 2010-04-01 00:48

tomorrow they came up with another mandatory update (3.22) restoring OtherOS and today was nothing but an elaborate April Fool's joke of horrible taste?

+4 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — ChaosZero112 2010-04-01 00:49

Dumb. Geohot's exploit hasn't even lead to anything useful yet. I highly doubt the exploit will allow running backups or whatnot.

Unless Sony figured out something we didn't...

Well my slim will be updated, my phat will not be.

# same — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:03

im gonna update my slim and not my phat, just incase someone makes something for it
above someone posted a link that will allow u to NOT update and get online still, but at this point i cant afford to take a chance at brick'n my phat
someone else try it and let me kno how it turns out for them please LOL

+9 # From "the_miker" — FatTrousers 2010-04-01 00:49

For those of you who would prefer to use PS3.ProxyServer.GUI instead of LG5tool, "the_miker" from GeoHot's comments has made a mini guide you can follow that allows you to bypass the firmware check so you can sign in to PSN while still using firmware 3.15, enabling you to keep OtherOS until GeoHot comes up with something..

- On your PS3, sign out of PSN
- Download and install PS3.ProxyServer.GUI here: http://www.mediafire.com/?ywnmy1wykzi
- It doesn't create shortcuts so navigate to C:\Program Files\CF3B5\PS3.ProxyServer and run PS3.ProxyServer.GUI.exe
- Type your current LOCAL IP ADDRESS (probably 192.168.*.*), you can leave the port as 8080, check PS3 Mode
- Whatever port you use must be open on your router, so if 8080 is blocked, open it now
- Go to the Replace Files tab and click Add
- In the left box, paste this address: http://fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/update/...
- In the right box, click browse and find your LOCAL COPY of the 3.15 ps3-updatelist.txt file, download from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?dyjldy24yod
- Back to the Proxy Settings tab, click Start
- From your PS3's XMB, go to Settings, Network Settings, then Internet Connection Settings
- Keep everything the way you have it configured now except for the Proxy Server option, make sure you click Use
- Type the IP address and port number to your local computer (from step 4 above)
- Finish configuring, test connection, make sure it connects
- That's it. If the connection test works, you can now sign into PSN with 3.15 and bypass the 3.21 firmware check
- Note that you must keep PS3.ProxyServer.GUI running when you want to use your PS3 until we get CFW :)

+2 # FIX — FatTrousers 2010-04-01 00:51

Point 7 should read.."In the left box, paste this address: http://fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net/update/ps3/list/us/ps3- updatelist.txt"

+2 # Source — FatTrousers 2010-04-01 00:52

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/03/dont-update.html

+1 # RE: From "the_miker" — ChaosZero112 2010-04-01 01:54

Confirmed working on my Win 7 Ultimate x64

+1 # Another tut if the above didn't work. — Walo 2010-04-01 10:47

http://www.haxnetwork.net/showthread.php?t=9745

# thank you — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:05

just wanted to thank digital for atleast tryin to make people feel better

# Confirmed — Guest 2010-04-01 12:31

Confirmed to be working with:
Resistance 2 - Online.

Note: If you have a server running on the same computer you might have to do 1 or 2 things.

Stop the Apache server - or What eve server
Use another computer for the PS3.ProxyServer.GUI

I've compiled a installer for this unit. Props are given to the maker.

Located on my site: http://trading-post.sytes.net:6969/forum/download.php?id=637

PPL: Feel free to take said installer and place it somewhere for redistributing. I do no have the bandwidth to host

# Lol — Guest 2010-04-01 01:02

Thats got to be the most uncool April Fools joke i've ever heard. Their website still says 3.15, and I can't arse myself at the moment to find out if i'm wrong or not.

+2 # Man Fuck Sony — Guest 2010-04-01 01:24

I for one actually liked the other OS feature that I paid for. Whats next... going to remove backwards compatibility as well??? Garbage move by Sony, I hope someone does come out with CFW and Sony's worst fears are realized.

# Yup — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:13

Quoting wtmac:

I for one actually liked the other OS feature that I paid for. Whats next... going to remove backwards compatibility as well??? Garbage move by Sony, I hope someone does come out with CFW and Sony's worst fears are realized.

You wanna know the best thing about all of this? If the PS3 'dies' because of piracy or whatever becomes of this:

GeoHot: I never intended to touch CFW, but if that's how you want to play...

Sony has brought all of this upon themselves. They can point the finger all they want...but in the end, theymade the fatal mistake.

Message to Sony: 3.22 bring back OtherOS lest lose your baby.

+1 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 01:28

WHAT A USELESS UPDATE NO CROSS GAME CHAT OR NOTHING SINCE WHEN IS UPDATING STUFF REMOVE SHIT GOD DAMN WASTE OF TIME

# Hmm — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:14

It seems Sony has cut the shit about the "carrot and stick" approach.

-1 # CFW... — ptspyder 2010-04-01 01:41

Is very likely never gonna happen to begin with. That is a lot of steps to take in the hope of something that may or may not happen in the future.

+1 # RE: CFW... — ChaosZero112 2010-04-01 02:08

It looks more complicated then it is. I set up the proxy in 2 minutes, including the time to download .net 1.1.

+1 # yea man — Guest 2010-04-01 01:55

just updated. I dont use otheros but i was still bitter about updating. its not like they gave us anything in return for this loss. pretty wack if u ask me.

# lol — zzk2001 2010-04-01 01:55

well i am now happy that i sold my PS3, I fill sorry for all the PS3 Phat users out there.
I may never buy a PS3 again, Maybe the PS4 will be better.

-1 # RE: lol — Guest 2010-04-01 05:46

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. We'll have to wait and see if Move sells or bombs first. My money is on it bombing. The whole reason people bought PS3s and 360s was because they didn't care about motion control in the first place. How are you going to convince people to drop $100 on accessories that will more than likely hinder your experience. Example. Call of Duty. Move/Natal player VS Basic Controller player: Chances are, controller wins 8/10 times.

-1 # well.. — Guest 2010-04-01 12:50

that's because Natal is crap? It's a damn eyetoy, no matter how you overhype it. No buttons = No way to play complicated games. The only real games that can work on it are driving, and if you watch Burnout you'll see how clunky it is when played on Natal. Move at least has some potential, since i played Metroid trilogy and i gotta say, the controls were amazing.

# RE: well.. — Alex Atkin UK 2010-04-03 21:41

Quoting The.chad:

that's because Natal is crap? It's a damn eyetoy, no matter how you overhype it. No buttons = No way to play complicated games. The only real games that can work on it are driving, and if you watch Burnout you'll see how clunky it is when played on Natal. Move at least has some potential, since i played Metroid trilogy and i gotta say, the controls were amazing.

You are being too narrow minded. There is nothing stopping games from being able to track your movement with Natal AND use a normal Xbox 360 pad, at the same time. So in fact, it has plenty of buttons.

I think the best games in fact will be the ones that use Natal as an extension of the pad rather than a replacement which is what Fable 3 will do, as you really couldn't play that game entirely without a pad.

# Move — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:16

I'm willing to bet my PSPgo that Anything related to the Move will require 3.21... so fuck that.

I'm not paying out the Move itself, don't get me wrong; I'd love to get one. However I'm not prepared to update. So for the time being it looks like I'm gonna miss out

# if — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:07

Quoting zzk2001:

well i am now happy that i sold my PS3, I fill sorry for all the PS3 Phat users out there.
I may never buy a PS3 again, Maybe the PS4 will be better.

if they did this with a ps3 , just imagine what they gonna do IF a ps4 is released

-1 # lol — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:20

Wait...I'm getting a vision from the future...

PS4 Feature list
-----------------

EVERYTHING THE PS3 CAN DO EXCEPT:

- Play PS1, 2 or 3 games
- watch blu-ray movies
- Operating system deal with microsoft to give you unpatched Windows Vista for firmware
- plus laods more great features for twice the launch price of the ps3 in Australia (meaning, $2000)

..at least, that's all I see should Sony keep this shit up. Anyone agree/disagree?

# humm that sux i want my money back! — Guest 2010-04-01 02:04

i almost never play game on my ps3 aside from rainbow six and my girlfriend use the otheros for when i am glued to the computer chair to check stuff on the web true the linux install as the ps3 browser is awfull so basically aside from my kid playing lego game i am ending up with a nice bd player wich i almost never use... wish i had bought a wii, it was a long time since i had owned a console it will be even longer before i own another, basicaly i just lost about 50% of the reason why i bought it

# No loss — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:21

You don't lose anything should you not update. It's not as though your stuff instantly ceases to work should you choose to stay the course.

+2 # YOU DONT NEED TO UPDATE! — NakedFaerie 2010-04-01 02:32

I tried the PS3.ProxyServer.GUI and it didn't work but LG5tool does.

Only problem is LG5tool doesn't minimize.

# Hmm — FatTrousers 2010-04-01 02:34

Does "windowsKey+D" work?

# RE: YOU DONT NEED TO UPDATE! — Walo 2010-04-01 14:04

http://www.haxnetwork.net/showthread.php?t=9745

+2 # hey sony ... — Guest 2010-04-01 02:43

not funny sony.

get your hands off my shhhyit.

+1 # Wow — Guest 2010-04-01 03:19

This is the only system that LOSES features..... I had high hopes for the PS3

CFW!!!!

+1 # FUUUUUU sony ! — john 2010-04-01 03:25

I bought a slim, im not updating my fat !!!!
not a fckng chance !!!!!

waiting 4 ur magic GEOHOT!!!

+3 # RE: FUUUUUU sony ! — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-04-01 06:51

Your playing into Sony's hands more. They are probably hoping people will go out and buy more slim PS3s do to the Other OS disable update.

+1 # funny — zzk2001 2010-04-01 03:40

You know what would be funnier If they made a Update that disables PS1 and PS2 games on all Fat PS3's HAHAHAH now that would Piss some people off.

But then again this is Sony we are talking about... It could happen..

# couldnt be done — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:09

all the ps2 and 2 games are download content from psn
to do that i would think theyd have to disable for ALL ps3
then again as u said this is sony

+1 # and — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:10

no it wouldnt be funny, im being punished enough for paying $500.00 for the 40 gig and a game when it first come out, i dont really deserve ANOTHER slap in the face for buying it

# lol — Pariah 2010-04-04 21:24

*slaps you in the face* That's from Sony, a thank you gift. Message as follows:

"Thank you Ricochet__ for buying our PhailStation3. We understand that you invested a lot of money into our product, and to thank you, we promise to steadily and regularly remove key features of your console, forcing you to do our bidding."

+1 # Hold on — Guest 2010-04-01 03:49

Someone said they played emulators with 'Other OS' feature on the PS3?

I was unaware you could do this. Now I'm a little annoyed. I have the O.G 60GB. I never used the feature, but wanted to. Just never found time to do it.

# Hold on — SSJGoku786 2010-04-01 03:51

Someone said they played emulators using the 'Other OS' feature.
I was unaware you could do this. Now I'm a little annoyed at the update.

I have the O.G 60GB console. I never used the feature, but wanted to. I just didn't find time to do it.

+1 # nope — NakedFaerie 2010-04-01 05:03

Well if you update you never will.

I'm installing Linux into a USB stick as we speak.
I forgot to partition my HDD when I got it back from the repair center last week.
You can use an external HDD to install linux onto.

-1 # LOLZ — Guest 2010-04-01 03:52

its so NOT TRUE!cuz im still online. no update :)

-3 # i think i gonna update.. — Guest 2010-04-01 05:29

i think i gonna update, but all because of geohot i can't use otheros anymore, whatever i didn't use it. i did it once.

arghh whatever
if you want to pirate buy an fucking xbox

for 150 bucks, better that maybe ruin your ps3

+1 # really — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:15

Quoting Darkshed:

i think i gonna update, but all because of geohot i can't use otheros anymore, whatever i didn't use it. i did it once.

arghh whatever
if you want to pirate buy an fucking xbox for 150 bucks, better that maybe ruin your ps3

is it more likely that "hackers" can be the blame used to take a option away that people supported or is it more likely that sony just doesnt want to be bother'd by it to have to secure it
seems like they just didnt wanna secrure it and easy and convient to blame "hackers"
if they had to explain this right now this second , i bet they would blame a 12 yr old kid saying he attacked PSN using the other o.s. option

# convenient — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:16

sorry for the typo
convenient is what i meant:P
i know how some of you lil flamers are so i wanna correct it before the QQ'n starts

# Can't Bypass — Guest 2010-04-01 06:06

I can't bypass the update with either PS3.ProxyServer.GUI or LG5tool.

They both seem to work, my proxy shows up in the xmb network status as it should and I can use the internet browser..

but I can't sign in to PSN, it's telling me to update my system software.

Anyone know what else I can try?

# RE: Can't Bypass — Walo 2010-04-01 14:04

http://www.haxnetwork.net/showthread.php?t=9745

-2 # Why no hate for the hacker? — Guest 2010-04-01 06:41

I too am annoyed by Sony for taking the steps (I used OtherOS in the past and was glad it was there), but I'm even more annoyed by this stupid need for some kids to prove they can hack anything. As with piracy, it is the hackers that will spoil it for the honest customers. The only way GeoHot can help is by ceasing his activity, if this escalates into the same thing that happened to the PSP, we are going to be in a world of hurt as honest paying customers. Why can't hackers just leave it alone?

+2 # RE: Why no hate for the hacker? — Guest 2010-04-01 10:30

Because not everyone is stupid obedient slave like you are?

+1 # Dang Right Rowaa — southsidexz 2010-04-01 22:11

You got the right words

# yep — NakedFaerie 2010-04-01 22:12

Quoting Rowaa:

Because not everyone is stupid obedient slave like you are?

Yep, I agree. Go buy a iPhone, iPad or Mac and be a slave to Steve Jobs.

+1 # because — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:17

they are convenient to point their fingers at for taking away a option that helped get the ps3 sold,

-2 # GEOHOT ?? — Guest 2010-04-01 07:25

George, i am waiting for your reply, joke comment, response or whatever the Fuck you want to make.
But i am waiting for your move.

+1 # DO NOT UPDATE USE LG5tool — barroni1977 2010-04-01 07:31

For everyone who does NOT want to update use the proxy server LG5tool. It's simple to use and works... just tested with Modern Warfare 2. Fu*k sony I will not update for as long as i can I paid for this feature and i'm keeping it.

# Geohot — barroni1977 2010-04-01 07:44

This is the guy who is gonna fu*k sony up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryybrodvxu4

+2 # uh oh — RaphaelDDL 2010-04-01 08:07

Anyone else thinks that Sony just went in the OS code and commented the line that prints the 'Install other OS' at menu?

I don't think they made anything else with the 'security'.

Well, if Sony really did that, that means that they red what Geo discovered and, together with their OS knowledge, they saw that unlock could be possible using the otherOS feature. That is why they disabled it or would not have any sense.

That's my opinion.

-4 # April Fools? — hypercoyote360 2010-04-01 08:25

Ummm, today's April 1st.....anyone out there actually try updating to see if it's true?

+3 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — vitorgatti 2010-04-01 08:26

GeoHot started analyzing FW 3.21... let's support him so we can get a CFW!

Damn you, Sony.

-4 # RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 08:36

Let's not, so things don't get worse!

# RE: RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 10:56

And how are they going to make things worse? Setting the highest resolution to 720?

-1 # lil late — Ricochet__ 2010-04-01 11:32

Quoting Kwyjibo:

Let's not, so things don't get worse!

this is just the beginning
if they get away with it and they will
more will be taken away
expect browser to be hit next
of course thats just me
ever heard "give a bitch a inch-she takes a mile"
well thats sony in this case
nothing to stand in front of them to stop them from taking and taking

+3 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 08:47

This is ofcourse BULLsh|t ! I paid for a ps3 including the otheros feature. They have no right to remove this unless they give me some kind of refund, which is not gonna happen ... Someone should sue Sony.

In the meanwhile not updating my ps3.
Gonna try the LG5tool.

+1 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Navani 2010-04-01 09:06

Time to stock up on single player games until something comes out! Heavy Rain, God of War, Motorstorm here I come!

+1 # i thought it was april fools joke — Aces In The Palm 2010-04-01 09:10

cant believe they actually did it.
what are sony playing at
"it only does everything"
including lose features.
im keeping my linux
im keeping my red hat yellow dog
not for emulators, it also compiles and does heaps of stuff
i thought no way they'de skip 3.20 and jump to 3.21
WTF
FU sony.
i bought this system as a console that was sold with other OS as a feature.
i beleive it may be even against the law to remove it

The goods must
· comply with the description given by the seller and posses the same qualities and characteristics as other similar goods
· be fit for the purpose which the consumer requires them and which was made known to the seller at the time of purchase.
· are fit for the purpose for which goods of the same type are used
· show the same quality and performance, which are normal in goods of the same type and which consumers can reasonably expect. This will also take into account any public statements made about the specific characteristics of the goods by the producer, seller or in their advertising.

-1 # Jokes — Guest 2010-04-01 09:37

10$ that an update will restore otherOS tomorrow

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — MangoScango 2010-04-01 09:44

Please tell me by the end of the day the screens gonna go "April Fools!" and add it back... =(

+1 # they should do because — Aces In The Palm 2010-04-01 11:00

according to a certain american act (im not american)
The goods must
· comply with the description given by the seller and posses the same qualities and characteristics as other similar goods
· be fit for the purpose which the consumer requires them and which was made known to the seller at the time of purchase.
· are fit for the purpose for which goods of the same type are used
· show the same quality and performance, which are normal in goods of the same type and which consumers can reasonably expect. This will also take into account any public statements made about the specific characteristics of the goods by the producer, seller or in their advertising.

+1 # slim could be a loophole — Aces In The Palm 2010-04-01 11:01

comply with the description given by the seller and posses the same qualities and characteristics as other similar goods

# i know it — Guest 2010-04-03 22:24

Sale Of Goods and Supply of services act 1980 !! They are breaking the law

-2 # Give me a break — Guest 2010-04-01 10:30

Yeh it is disappointing but really how many people use this feature? Very few. Everybody is really upset because they were hoping the exploit would lead to p1rated games. That is the real reason. Thank that hacker guy for exposing it way too soon.

-1 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 10:50

Thank GeoHot for this stupidity not Sony. Everyone says it is a potential hole, but it is real. Sony engineers know their security, they know what GeoHot has exposed and realize that with more brainpower he could actually accomplish the creation of the first hacked PS3, I mean really hacked PS3. Loaders, Homebrew, etc. They don't give a shit about homebrew, but piracy is huge especially when they get most of their revenue from royalties on the sales of BD Games/Movies. What do you think killed the Dreamcast? The lack of security. Sure it may pish hardware, but they don't make the big bucks on hardware, they make it on software. Anyone still crying about this update needs to bitch at GeoHot for making his work public before it lead anywhere. He basically raised a flag and said, "HEY SONY HERE IS THE EXPLOIT, I BET YOU CAN'T BLOCK ME!!!"

# RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Alex Atkin UK 2010-04-03 22:20

Quoting CheekyBugger:

Thank GeoHot for this stupidity not Sony. Everyone says it is a potential hole, but it is real. Sony engineers know their security, they know what GeoHot has exposed and realize that with more brainpower he could actually accomplish the creation of the first hacked PS3, I mean really hacked PS3. Loaders, Homebrew, etc. They don't give a shit about homebrew, but piracy is huge especially when they get most of their revenue from royalties on the sales of BD Games/Movies. What do you think killed the Dreamcast? The lack of security. Sure it may pish hardware, but they don't make the big bucks on hardware, they make it on software. Anyone still crying about this update needs to bitch at GeoHot for making his work public before it lead anywhere. He basically raised a flag and said, "HEY SONY HERE IS THE EXPLOIT, I BET YOU CAN'T BLOCK ME!!!"

The Dreamcast was long dead before piracy took hold, everyone was waiting on the PS2. The killer of the Dreamcast was the flop of the Saturn, people lost trust in SEGA.

Ironically Sony are risking the same thing by removing features from the PS3. People are losing trust in them. Nobody in their right mind is going to buy a product that there is a risk will have features removed over its lifetime. You can accept online features being removed over a long period of time, but actual functionality of the box you bought that should "just work" without external influences, unacceptable.

If this has been a kitchen appliance that suddenly had a feature removed we would consider it defective. What would you do if the freezer part of your fridge/freezer suddenly stopped working? Or your Microwave suddenly only worked on Low power? These are features we were sold when we bought the product, we do not expect them to be suddenly taken away from us artificially.

+1 # Gimme a fuckin' break — Guest 2010-04-01 11:57

Some of you guys still think they are JOKING ?
Get real fellas, they just fucked us all. There will be NO update to restore OTHEROS. And for those waiting including me, GEOHOT gotta make a response a big fucking response.

+1 # FU Sony !!!!!!!! — Guest 2010-04-01 12:02

LG 5 Tool and a url on to to work it

I am using it now as i have no intentions of losing the os option it was there at point of purchase and i expect it to be there until i sell the console

http://www.youshare.com/Guest/a71280/DisplaySimple

http://www.mediafire.com/file/dz2zlmkiwni/LG5 Tool.rar

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0f4ffb/n/LG5_Tool.rar

http://www.filedropper.com/lg5tool

+1 # Pimp Smacked — Raydawggg 2010-04-01 12:17

It's official...Sony has just made us their B****.This is absurd & false advertising.According to this article on QJ.Net http://www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-3/sony-phat-ps3s-will-not-lose-other-os-feature.html A Official Sony rep."Clearly" stated that this feature would continue to be supported.Now they blatantly disregard this & do the complete opposite? I agree this screams "Class-Action Lawsuit"This feature is one of the"MAIN"reasons i purchased the PS3 over the Xbox360.I use the "Other Os" feature daily & have since 2008.I feel betrayed & ridiculed by a company that practices"The Art of Indian-Giving" & "Back-Stabbing".We then get the"ULTIMATE" Pimp Smack by denying us PSN Access & the inability to play future PS3 titles & Blu-ray discs,they also "forgot" to mention this affects "Remote Play" as well.Is this how Sony repays their "Loyal" supporters & customers?...guess who WONT be updating nor continuing "Support" SONY=EPICFAIL

+1 # Lies...all Lies — Raydawggg 2010-04-01 12:20

www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-3/sony-phat-ps3s-will-not-lose-other-os-feature.html

+1 # "Mine is bigger than yours..." — Guest 2010-04-01 12:39

So, what this says to me is...

Sony would rather waste time to win in a pissing contest with one person (a young talent)than spend that time "providing" consumers with the features they have been "promising" since the launch of the PS3.

Sony fails to realize that what a consumer does with his/her purchased product is that consumer's business...not Sony's!

What better way to show how small you (Sony) really are?

# now imagine.... — Guest 2010-04-01 12:45

.... if Sony were to add it back secretly in a new update today and have a message sent to you via psn that says APRIL FOOLS ! Your [Install Other OS] has been readded.

+1 # LAW SUITS AND MORE TO COME! F$%£ u Sony. — Guest 2010-04-01 12:46

LAW SUITS AND MORE TO COME! F$%£ u Sony.
Will wait for custom firmware. No matter how long it takes. My first 50" tv was supposed to be a flat panel when it came it was rear projection and broke down constantly.I then purchased a 52" tv that was supposed to be 3d ready with a future update and it is not because its true htz is only 50 htz not 100htz that is needed for 3d. But they lied and said it was 100htz when I purchased it. purchased two of your ps3's and three psp systems to now get pissed on Again. Sony can forget my custom again. They are deceiving with what they do and will lie to get you to purchase products. Fact! What happend to playing ps3 games through remote play on psp they did`nt even try. Now they killed ps2 compatability and other OS. Sad sony kill themselves like this. But they have as far as I am concerned.

+1 # lol — xavis75211 2010-04-01 12:48

sony is free falling now. even if an update brings it back,people will still be pissed, and sony will be no more.

their failing as is

# Time for M$ — Guest 2010-04-01 13:12

Total ps fanboy here, at present moment, only reason I would get a ps4 would be a ff7 remake. This isn't cool.

+1 # Fuck sony — EugeneE 2010-04-01 14:14

Sony has got to be one of the worst companies out there.

My 60 GB PS3 broke down not long ago. I have an extended warranty on it and got my full price back.

Don't know if I will get another PS3, I'll stick with my XBOX 360. At least, I still have the features that the XBOX came with.

Not only are removing other OS, but if you don't upgrade to this new firmware, you can't login to PlayStation Live, you lose the ability to play certain games/ Blu-ray, etc.

I smell a class action lawsuit. This is utterly ridiculous. Sony used to be a good company but they are becoming a bad company.

# false advertising — EugeneE 2010-04-01 14:32

Also, their needs to be a class action lawsuit against Sony for their advertising.

Sony is doing false advertising, this needs to be pointed out to a judge also. Sony claims that the PS3 "It Only Does Everything" which is false advertising espically since they removed PS2 support from the new systems and are now removing OpenOS.

# PS3 No other os — Guest 2010-04-01 15:31

Oh i installed the firmware, i never used that feature very much, maybe once to install yellow dog, but that was it, never touched it after that, waits for Exploit for a downgrade to allow other os

.

For now enjoys playing online.

Waits patiently.

He, he they can't remove ps2 backwards compatibility on the 60gb's could they, i mean its in the hardware level.

-2 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 15:32

i dont see the big deal, who the fuck wants to run linux on a gaming console anyway? i thought thats what pc's are for lol

+1 # ... — symbal 2010-04-01 15:57

After reading the comments i'm glad to see some of the fanboys finally seeing the light about just how bad sony is at running the playstation brand and just pissing people off at every turn.

+1 # AHHHH — Guest 2010-04-01 16:04

Fcuk you Sony.
I paid for this feature and now it's gone??

I paid it twice!! First time at buying the PS3 and second time at YLOD

!!!!
I never understood the thinking of Sony and I will never do.

I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!!
Send it on my PSN-Acount!!!

I hope, I really really hope someone cracks the FW AND THEN ... A N D T H E N ....... hmph!!!!!

+2 # dont upgrade — Guest 2010-04-01 16:08

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-01 16:19

I don't believe that one hacker's foot in the door is the main reason for the update but still, we all agree to the terms, and hacking isn't allowed so Sony adapts. If it was made to be an emulation machine it would be different. What huge benefits did the install other OS have anyway? Well, doesn't effect me in any way. But still, Sony doing this because of a little exlpoit... still far fetched.

-3 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — GGCAN 2010-04-01 17:56

It's strange how people say this is an illegal move by Sony.

How many have forgotten what Microsoft did a while back, taking away people's Online access on the 360 when they found those said people were using prirated copies.

+2 # WTF ????/ — Guest 2010-04-01 18:18

how can u compare someone who is actually using a pirated game vs PS3 hack which was really nothing and who knows if and when something would have came out of it. Sony is just assuming stuff and when u assume, you make and ASS out of U and ME, and i'm no ass SONYYYYY i won't be updating for awhile don't need to be online for FFX111 since i don't care about trophies that much same with all my other games. Not that i condone pirating or hacking but its all about paying for something then having the company take it away. That would be like Ford selling me a new truck and then coming back and saying that i modified it and takes the engine away would u not be pissed. Think about it people, i want what i payed for and what was advertised regardless if i use it or not.

# well if they were pirate then! — Guest 2010-04-01 18:55

the difference between the what microsoft did and what is sony doing is different microsoft punished people who were pirating there system, i aint i am using my playstation as a secondary computer in my house the way it was advertised to me (by installing linux on it) and true there own indication on how to, now that the reason why they took the option is because or not of geohotz hack is not my problem and in no way should i be penalised for it in any way, as i see it now mather if i do or do not update i get penalised by either loosing the capacity of running and os on my ps3 as advertised and explained by sony or i am loosing the capacity of running online game on it without having to install software on a second computer to use a proxy wich offer no promises of working in the long run and with all game.

so no microsoft did not do something as bad as sony is currently by penalising all there user for the hack of one and as other have pointed out they might have even put fuel on the fire by doing so.

# RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Navani 2010-04-01 19:57

Quoting GGCAN:

It's strange how people say this is an illegal move by Sony.

How many have forgotten what Microsoft did a while back, taking away people's Online access on the 360 when they found those said people were using prirated copies.

What are you, stupid? No one's pirating anything.. yet. It's basically like opening the screen door of a house, you're kinda in but you need to get the main door unlocked.

I can understand banning pirates, but removing a feature heavily advertised, saying you wouldn't remove it, and giving barely a week's notice? please.

-3 # idiots — Guest 2010-04-01 18:53

Sony has every right to protect their property. Blame Geohot not Sony. And eff off with any fanboy comments.

+1 # RE: idiots — yoshi314 2010-04-02 06:25

Quoting Otoha:

Sony has every right to protect their property. Blame Geohot not Sony. And eff off with any fanboy comments.

yours classifies as one such comment.

sony has no right to take away major features from the customer.

# What if? — Guest 2010-04-01 18:54

Well I'm as pissed as the next guy, but honestly we're all talking out of our asses. We have no idea what's really going on.

I mean, I kinda doubt that one guy with a half-baked and hitherto unutilized "hack" scared sony into doing something so obviously stupid. But maybe he did.

I also doubt it was a April Fool's joke, but it might be. (Incidentally, was this update worldwide? I didn't see. Did Japan get hit by this too?)

Here's something I just thought of though: Perhaps Sony is removing it to strip out some fluff from the FW to make way for the code for Move? Or perhaps something else in the future? It seems like a ass-backwards way of doing it, but hey, it's Sony. They do ass-backwards stuff. I don't know, but it's frankly as good a theory as the rest of them, as far as we know.

I really just wish Sony communicated with us better. If they gave an explanation as to WHY they do what they do, I would be less angry, if not understanding.

# No Need To Update ;) — rda990 2010-04-01 19:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0CUjBtIw4

# >.> — Guest 2010-04-01 19:31

im not taking side but what can we do its sony system and software be glad they arent charging us to play online who know they probly closing OS till they can block ppl from using it to hack there ps3s they pretty much been giving us certain about of free online content sorry if ure mad cause they took the OS dont blame sony dispite all the bs they do they protecting there console that all geez ppl do the link on top to by pass it and quiting ure crying if u updated then that ure fault ppl.

# PEOPLE!!! NO NEED TO UPDATE!! — southsidexz 2010-04-01 20:33

There is no need to update, you can succesfully log-in to the PSN, Play Games and so on, while staying on 3.12 . Its very easy actually, but instruction weren't clear to do it.

Search for PS3 Proxy Server Gui!!
you'll find plenty of Guides on "ps3news.com"

I have Windows 7 64-bit (x64) Ultimate, and "IT WORKS!" My ps3 just log-in to the PSN and such!

It does work on Windows 7 and you dont have to set it on any compatibility mode. Simply know a lil about routing and such.

Like opening PORTS, bcz I have 2 routers connected one after another and then the modem. So I had to go to my Router (Belkin) and open the port, the port you can pick which ever you want but it must match the one u put on the PS3 and the Proxy Server GUI.

further help or such, email me. or message me

GeoHatz! Your definitely a brilliant mind, for starting a battle with Sony. Cheers my friend. as Well THANKS to the creators of the Ps3 Proxy Server GUI!! For letting us continue under the Homebrew Scene.

# Ideas for Sony — SuperSZ 2010-04-01 21:03

Ideas for Sony, for future firmware updates:

-Remove PS2 backwardcompati bility with the PS3s that have that
-Make paid PSN
-Make paid web browser
-Remove the feature of playing Blu Ray movies (so you need to buy a Sony Blu Ray Player)
-Make some kind of mode that when you turn on the console it says that you MUST update it to use it, and by updating you lose all the things named above.

Eventually all that stuff will happen (maybe not the 'remove blu ray player' but all the rest yes). Saying 'fuck Sony' doesn't even represent 0,1% of what people will feel.

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SSJGoku786 2010-04-01 21:21

They could've at least provided something decent in the PSN store to actually encourage people to sign in. A free game would've helped.

# RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SuperSZ 2010-04-01 21:29

a free game? Man, with OtherOS you could install 'zerogame project' and you could play basically all the SNES, Genesis, GBA, Turbografix, etc. etc. etc. games. Now you can't. That's what pissed me off, I don't really cared about Linux that much, I was about to install it JUST for that but now I can't (I mean I can, I haven't upgraded yet... but I won't be able to play online and stuff if I don't upgrade)

# RE: RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SSJGoku786 2010-04-01 21:36

See, I was unaware you could use Linux on the PS3 to play roms and use emulators.
I was interested in using the feature, as a backup for if ever my laptop wasn't functioning, for Word etc. But, after reading some of the comments and finding out you could use it for roms, I'm quite upset I never got round to actually using it.
I have yet to update, though. But, I would like to play online. I just received the Sony Headset I ordered.

+1 # You don't have to update you know...... — southsidexz 2010-04-01 22:09

You can actually use that brand new headset you just order, and even set-up linux on the OtherOS and emulators to plays games.

I'm by-passing the PS3 Firmware update by using the PS3 Proxy Server GUI.(Computer Application) Basically it makes the PS3 think it has the most up-to-date firmware, thus allowing me to keep linux on the OtherOS and play online and sign in the PSN and such....

Idk why people are complaining much that awww... We have to update. Yea the update is mandatory, but there's a thing called "By-Passing" things.

Further help just message me.

# Pissed — Guest 2010-04-01 22:05

I'm mostly angry due to the fact that i never got to get to play with the feature and kept putting it off now that i see all these things that have been removed over time it is starting to make me very upset First to my knowledge was backward compatibility then now this. People who blame a person for altering software at there own risk are crazy first thing first sony has supposedly all this security to hackers but they are scared that someone will get through through the other os what do they think this will stop it no it's a spit in the face of hackers and home brewers everywhere as you can see from this discussion there are a lot of pissed people and in the end it will end up hurting them all the worst thing of ALL! is they didn't even give us a little special something for updating other than the fact that i can use psn again kinda makes me feel like they don't really give a sh!t about what we think and what we want and that pisses me off i will not give in to them i hope a CFW does come out i had respect for sony for allowing us this long until a problem happened and now i have lost it Soooo Anyone from any scene of hacking should destroy them for what they have done.

+4 # UPDATE: No Proxy Tool Needed — ChaosZero112 2010-04-01 22:13

All You Have To Do Is Make 67.202.81.137 your primary DNS and your ps3 will be able to connect to psn without any updates.

No LG5Tool, no PS3.ProxyServer.GUI.

# ChaosZero112 has a Good Point! +1 on you my friend — southsidexz 2010-04-01 23:28

Yep just tried it, and Bam! works like a charm. Online Gaming = YES , PSN = YES, Playstation Store = YES, Downloads = YES!

Everything works Nice! ha! You beat me ChaosZero112 lolz. I had to do some thinking on the Proxy GUI, but eeh....thats how u learn to do things.

Anyways PEOPLE! There are 2 WAYS TO DO IT!!! The Primary DNS to 67.202.81.137 like ChaosZero said, or the PS3 Proxy Server GUI.

Yes the Proxy Server GUI works for WINDOWS 7 64-BIT. I have it running before I read chaoszero post. lolz

Still Keep in mind both options bcz you never know if Sony does something to block that specific DNS. or soemthing

ENJOY

+1 # DNS — NakedFaerie 2010-04-01 22:15

If you cant get the proxy to work (it crashes in Win7 64bit for me) then try this

Under network settings have everything like normal.
Change Primary and secondary DNS to 67.202.81.137

I'm not sure why but it works. You can do everything you normally do like online games and PSN but it doesn't ask for an update. :)

# Contact your attorney general — EugeneE 2010-04-01 22:44

I would say to all PS3 users, contact your state attorney general and tell what Sony did to your system.

Also contact the US Attorney General at http://www.justice.gov/contact-us.html about what Sony did.

Also contact your senators about this also.

I'm not sure but I believe what Sony has done with the update has never been done before. Sony needs to be made an example of if. If Sony can do this, what's gonna stop other companies from doing the same thing.

Sony could decide to remove the web browser, they could remove the PS2 features on the Phat systems, etc.

# LOL — Davidthefat 2010-04-01 23:26

Watch Tomorrow, There will be another update by Sony saying "April Fools" with the OtherOS option back... At least thats what I hope...

+6 # Remove Everything — Guest 2010-04-01 23:31

PS3!

"It only removes everything"

+1 # LMAO — southsidexz 2010-04-01 23:43

LMAO Loved it!

+1 # well — xavis75211 2010-04-02 00:08

they do say "it only does everything"

everything can fall under

"it only yanks features"
this is seriousness too.

this isen't the first they have removed.

BC has been removed, OS in the slim was gone.

the PSP, removed UMD, removed entrnal battery, (must pay dubble for replacement)

only a matter of time before eveything else goes and fanboys will kiss sonys ass even more for limiting them more.

sony must be ran by slaver familiys

# RE: well — SuperSZ 2010-04-02 01:30

Am I the only one who thinks that eventually people will have to pay to use internet in PS3? (like the 360)

# no you're not — xavis75211 2010-04-02 02:05

i think they would to this.

this is why PC gaming is still the best despite needing the latest shit every year.

# RE: RE: well — EugeneE 2010-04-02 16:51

Quoting SuperSZ:

Am I the only one who thinks that eventually people will have to pay to use internet in PS3? (like the 360)

I wouldn't doubt it. It wouldn't surprise me if Sony removes the web browser, PS2 support in older consoles, etc.

Once a company can remove features in a system that you bought, what's gonna stop them from removing other features.

# RE: well — Tokimemofan 2010-04-18 23:42

This is the first one removed from hardware already sold, completely different ballgame

+1 # Like other software?? — maddehaan 2010-04-02 05:15

You pay for the console and the 'promise' that is on the box you buy it in and the manual with it. Additional features are nice, but removing features is indeed Theft. I for one don't really cared for the slow Yellow Dog installation (yet), however I do feel ripped off, just the same.

What if they are now going to say: Hey, we remove the Music section, because you might have embedded code in an MP3, or the Pictures part, as there might be a TIFF exploit in there....And owww....of course remove the gaming section, as Savegames have been the main culprit on the PSP, soooo, maybe it will also be on the PS3!!

I have several Sony products, however that doesn't say I can not criticize.

I think there will be civil suit and maybe even a corporate lawsuit, because some use the PS3 for science projects or processing.

# Science projects... — Guest 2010-04-02 11:25

Schools and corporations that use the PS3 for computing would NOT use PSN. The PS3s are dedicated workstations. They will not be affected by this. They would not have to update. Think about it!

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-02 07:22

i am well pissed off i use the linux as i dont have a pc and now sony are trying to force me to buy a pc. I sold my pc so i can get a ps3 sony are making me buy another one now when i did not have to buy one. Linux is slow but id done every thing iwanted also bought a hd tv for this too.

Fuck sony

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-02 07:52

hmm, thats sad. it feels like sony is stabbing me in the back.

# Don't hold your breath — Guest 2010-04-02 10:31

I've read posts threatening Class-action lawsuits, breach of Trading Standards...
Face it, none of these will stand up. We all know Sony's ToC statement will proven to be bulletproof. I have not, or never will be intending to install Linux. However, this really isn't the point here is it? The point is a matter of principle. For instance, here's one for those drivers out there:
All of you have ready access to whatever brake-Horsepower your car currently commands. You may not ever USE it, but you have it, it's advertised, and you may be proud of it. Now, it goes in for it's MOT. When it emerges, you get happily informed that it now has 100bHP LESS than it did before. The alternative would be that you would be unable to drive the car lawfully on public roads.
Will it impede your driving at all? No, of course it won't. Would you accept this situation? No, of course you won't. Would lawyers be involved at some point? Yes!

Here is a clear parallel with this PS3 situation. What will happen? Nothing!

# RE: Don't hold your breath — EugeneE 2010-04-02 16:47

Quoting Nakatsu Hime:

I've read posts threatening Class-action lawsuits, breach of Trading Standards...
Face it, none of these will stand up. We all know Sony's ToC statement will proven to be bulletproof. I have not, or never will be intending to install Linux. However, this really isn't the point here is it? The point is a matter of principle. For instance, here's one for those drivers out there:
All of you have ready access to whatever brake-Horsepower your car currently commands. You may not ever USE it, but you have it, it's advertised, and you may be proud of it. Now, it goes in for it's MOT. When it emerges, you get happily informed that it now has 100bHP LESS than it did before. The alternative would be that you would be unable to drive the car lawfully on public roads.
Will it impede your driving at all? No, of course it won't. Would you accept this situation? No, of course you won't. Would lawyers be involved at some point? Yes!

Here is a clear parallel with this PS3 situation. What will happen? Nothing!

Uh,

People have contacted their state attorney generals and have been told that they do have a case.

What Sony did according to the attorney generals is bait and switching, plain and simple and in that case, the TOS and EULA would be invalidated.

Doesn't matter what the EULA/TOS says, consumer laws over-ride them.

# RE: RE: Don't hold your breath — Guest 2010-04-14 08:53

EugenE, will this logic be recognised worldwide, or will UK users be shafted as usual?

-1 # Other O.S Removed! — Leodrqaz 2010-04-02 12:29

If you abuse something it will come back and bite off your arse!

# There is another work around — Guest 2010-04-02 12:33

Check you tube. You can just set a primary dns server under internet settings and not have to update.

+1 # Watch This + workaround. — arnookie 2010-04-02 12:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD0l2f6EQSk

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-02 12:57

Lets start from the beginning... why did Sony do this???

THANK YOU GEOHOLTZ... please hack more for piracy and then point fingers at Sony at trying to prevent people like you from ruining their systems....

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-02 13:32

i am well pissed off i bought my ps3 because i can use linux and play games as well. i sold my pc so i could pay for it and also bought a hd tv as well sony you are complete arses

# Really? — Guest 2010-04-02 14:36

I bet we are the only people who are mad at this, no one else really cares. Im pissed at sony too, i just think its funny that no one else cares

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SSJGoku786 2010-04-02 17:15

Could using the bypass thing void my warranty? I really can't afford to take any chances.

# RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SuperSZ 2010-04-02 17:44

The bypass thing is putting a number in your console, you don't hack anything, it doesn't void your warranty :)

# RE: RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SSJGoku786 2010-04-02 18:10

Thank you. I'll give it a go, then.
Is it simple to do?

# RE: RE: RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SuperSZ 2010-04-02 23:58

I've just done it, just configure your connection like always, but in the part when it says "DNS" you have 2 options: manual or automatic. Go with manual, and then put this number 67.202.81.137 as simple as that. I've just played LBP and KZ2 online so it works =)

# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — SSJGoku786 2010-04-03 03:05

I'm an idiot. I just updated, because I didn't want the hassle...
Now I regret it.

+3 # RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — j 2010-04-02 17:25

All these clowns saying "deal with it"..If are not an attorney and you have nothing useful to add sthu. Some people actually do their research when they buy a 600 dollar product. Some people actually bought the product because they wanted to add a OS, some people put lots of extra money into customizing their ps3 and now its wasted, some people actually wanted to have the opportunity to customize their ps3 but now they cant so since when is it okay to take away features on a product? NOT replace or modify but take away. Its unsatisfactory period

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Dodger 2010-04-02 18:02

This is not a good move. I was buying games on their psn store. So without the update i cant buy anymore. Sony will surely lose a lot.

And yes, i will not update. other os is a great option, that was there without a cfw. I hope the scene will take the oportunity.

# wowzers — Guest 2010-04-02 21:11

everything I was going to say has been said.

May I just add, FUUUUUUU Sony.
FUUUUUUUU on you very much.

# 2 Issues — EarthBoundX5 2010-04-02 22:25

1. According to their commercials the PS3 "does everything"...but I guess it can't run linux anymore.

2. How the fuck can they get away with this, especially every since the big fiasco they made when shipping the consoles over seas that it was a computer, not a game system because of the other os feature, to cut back on costs/fees.

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-02 23:29

The only thing that scares me is some of you slippery sloped logic morons are registered voters.

# just bypass it — Guest 2010-04-03 04:08

dont complain just baypass it .there are ways to bypass 3,21 just look it up . works for me google mal bypass 3.21

# Really Sony?? — Guest 2010-04-03 12:12

Well... this was my first, and last Sony Console..

# Thanks — Lazyboy256 2010-04-03 12:47

to ChaosZero and NakedFaerie for the Primary DNS solution! It works perfectly =D

# To quote from Auron in FFX-2 — Guest 2010-04-03 14:15

"He's panicking. Finish him quickly."
Sony is panicking. They obviously found a major hole through the otherOS and is removing it to protect their precious system, at the expense of their early adopters? No, thats plain wrong. Imagine how the launch PS4 will sell knowing that it will lose features in the future. Dumb@ss move $ony.

Geohot, finish $ony off quickly. Give 'em the CFW bullet. Maybe then when they respawn they'll think clearly again....

# How about.. — Guest 2010-04-03 14:41

Someone damage their HQ? Like with cute little big explosives or something?

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-03 20:47

ugh....everybody has to bitch bitch bitch.
If you want to keep Other OS, just don't update, and buy a slim to be used as an updated console. But wait...We have PC's! That run emulators better than a PS3! so i dont see the point in complaining about another removed feature thats not even necessary anyway. But on the other hand. Sony has a reputation of removing features. I saw this coming. And whatever they decide to move next....I don't care! I'm still gonna use my PS3 until Next gen is released. All I have to say to Sony is Good Move! I wouldve done the same. So go ahead, try to hack it another way(which is doubtful) cause that will be patched also. I support Sony for having the balls to do this.

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-03 20:50

and go ahead do the manual DNS thing. Sony will find a way to patch that too. 1st mistake is public broadcast.

+1 # look this up — Guest 2010-04-03 22:28

Sale of goods and supply of services act 1980 . THey are breaking many laws

# @iKnowStuff — Guest 2010-04-04 17:19

I'm with ya on that all the way. There will indeed be some kind of legal dispute over this matter. Not doubt about it. It's bait and switch plain and simple.

I know that some countries allow tax breaks when the imported goods are computer systems. If memory serves me correct, the ps3 was giving this break and now that they remove this feature, are they gonna end up paying all those back taxes if they do indeed get away with this bullshit update?

# exactly — PimpFriedRice 2010-04-04 18:10

I'm with ya on that one. This is bait and switch plain and simple. Sony heavily advertised the Playstation 3's features and functionality. Among that list of features was the option or ability to run a Linux distribution under the "Install Other OS" option settings. Whether or not it was considered a major selling point has nothing to do with the fact that it was ADVERTISED and people purchased the hardware with the said advertisements. Backward compatibility was another major selling point of the system in it's early release. I even have the original PS3 manual to prove it.

# And... — Guest 2010-04-04 20:43

And.. Here.. we.. go!

# I don't want to fight but they leave me no choice. — Guest 2010-04-05 02:52

I have had count them TWO accounts which no longer post anything to the PlayStation blog. I love my PS3 but this is the line, I use my linux, I'm a computing student, and this isn't right. I posted this on their blogs everywhere as a last effort, I know they won't put the OS back in now, so I want a solution everyone can live with, this is the post I get banned for.

PLEASE READ and consider, I’m trying to reach out here.

If you refuse to improve security, and shake things up, rather than taking out OS, consider this. Make PSN, and ALL future games compatible with 3.15. THEN, *stay with me*, have people give up OtherOS by offering features they DO want. Most everyone is already on 3.21, offer those refusing on principal something they want, you have a list on your Share Blog. People want new features, and 99.5% will upgrade for these things. To get the new features you MUST upgrade. So since most everyone wants these, you get everybody but honest Linux users, and maybe a small handful of hardcore hackers to give up the OtherOS. See how that works, you can use carrots to close up your hole for the most part, and still not punish honest linux users and programmers. I honestly think this would solve enough of your problem to make it a nil issue. It would get people like me off of your back. I will even let you at Sony take the credit for the idea. And its a start to repairing your image in my eyes.

So nobody responds to me at Sony to talk like adults, so I filed with the FTC, BBB, and there is word that a class action is getting together and should be more news this week. I REALLY don't want to fight PlayStation, I LOVE the brand. But unless they can at least let me play online with my friends on PSN, and continue to BUY new games and support the studios I love, than we are at a disagreement. I don't care that I can't upgrade to new firmware to get new features, that will be the price I pay, I will still at least get to keep what I paid for. My idea is a last ditch effort, I don't want to see piracy crush the studios I love and admire either. So I offer this as an alternative to Sony before it gets even uglier. For this I get banned on the blogs twice. This is the kind of company we are dealing with, and if you have a fat PS3 I urge you to stand up for yourselves, post on the blogs, email and call them, file with FTC etc.

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-05 10:08

Hypervisor has been dumped. Custom firmware will be here by the end of the year. I'm glad I don't use my ps3 that much online so I don't have worry about updating

+1 # Geohot will be the first to recieve — barroni1977 2010-04-05 17:05

With a lot of work I have finally managed to get a buckup launcher running on my 60gb ps3 firmware 3.15. I will release the sourcecode later in the week as it has a few bugs that need to be cleaned out. I hope some devs can work with this as it has took a long time to get it at the point it is. Now i'm stuck. I have successfully run 3 backups from iso on an external western hdd...Uncharted 2, COD MW2 and fifa 2010

# what — dastinger 2010-04-05 23:38

What r u talking about? I thought that as a GeoHotz's blog quote but as far as i know, its not..exaplin please

# GOW 3 will not start — Guest 2010-04-06 02:19

I would just like to add, that I just updated to 3.21 and I am not longer able to play God of War 3. An eternal black screen follows "Sony Computer Entertainment presents"...... So I will take this literally, and say that, as usual SCE presents.... nothing.

# found the manual for 3.21 — symbyosis 2010-04-06 08:51

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/osinstall.html

can anyone who already updated to the new FW please confirm if this is true?

Install Other OS
This feature is not available on the CECH-2000 series systems.

Install other system software on the hard disk. For information on types of compatible system software and obtaining the installer, visit Open Platform for PlayStation®3.

Notices
•Do not turn off the PS3™ system or remove the disc or storage media during installation. Doing so may cause damage to the system software.
•During this operation, the power button on the system front and the PS button on the wireless controller are not active.
1.
Insert the disc or storage media that contains the installer in the system.

2.
Select (Settings) > (System Settings).

3.
Select [Install Other OS].
The system searches for the installer. When the installer is found, its content and location will be displayed.

4.
Check the contents of the installer, and then select [Start].
After the installer has been checked, installation will start automatically.

Hints
•To start the newly installed system software, go to (Settings) > (System Settings) > [Default System], and then select [Other OS] to restart the system.
•An appropriate USB adaptor (not included) is required to use storage media with some models of the PS3™ system.

# GUYS!!! — Henkibojj 2010-04-07 08:59

Skip the server program, this works like a charm and you don't need to install anything!

http://www.haxnetwork.net/showthread.php?t=11834

Just change the primary DNS server and you're good! Confirmed working on my 60GB launch EU PS3, fw 3.15.

# PS3 Slim — Guest 2010-04-07 09:42

The only thing i cant still figur out is,: the ps3 Slim didnt have any Linux, so, why did we had to upgrade it too,?
what happend else in the firmware update?

and sombody said this should be a 3.14 or 3.12 and i tottaly agree,
Sony, ATleast give Us some EXTRA Features we can all benefit from, full remote play(play mini's for example on the G0 or 2m/3mobo's) and some other stuff

You should all kill yourselfs for releasing somthing, you told us you would not remove!

I always pawned the xbox fan boys with: atleast we have Linux, and they had nothing to say,

And now? the graphics lol, its much better then x-box but still,

give us something.

# lots of crap here. — Guest 2010-04-09 17:21

i think sony has more experience as a gaming console producer than many of you people have in console gaming. sony doesn't make moves like this one if it would be easy to sue them. they see these updates coming long before, so they take precautions through the terms of use and such. anyway, is true that vendors only sell the rights over the hardware, but not for the software. that means, ofcourse, that you are free to put whatever os on your ps3. but on the other hand game devs are free to require a certain os for their games. so it's all a matter of compromise for the end-user. have fun with the os of your choice and play whatever you find, if you find anything, or stick to our os and play everything you desire... if you pay for the games. and about paying for console games: i'd have no problem, but some of them cost like 3 times the price of the pc versions. take valve's orange box, for example. that's why i wouldn't buy a ps3, because the games i like are also on pc (except for the hot shots golf series :(( )

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Guest 2010-04-14 08:51

I noticed something else the last upgrade gave us. It was...
A tiny timer in the lower left-hand corner when you use iPlayer!
No, wait... the could have been the BBC's doing. Ah well, still nothing else then.

# RE: PS3 firmware v3.21 now live, "Other OS" removed — Tokimemofan 2010-04-18 23:58

A post a few minutes ago caught my eye over at the blog.
"George Hotz [Moderator] 3 minutes ago

To all still on 3.15, you may update your PS3 as the CFW will work from 3.21 as well.
Its taking a bit more time than I expected so I advise you update and I promise it will include 3.21 support"

Interesting if true.

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