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PS3 Firmware 2.40 to really include in-game XMB? leaked video Update

Posted May 30, 2008 at 5:08PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: 2K Games, Criterion Games, Sony, Sony Computer Entertainment UK, XMB

Originally posted 2008-05-29, 21:39

Jim Cordeira of Gaming Age says that they've received word that Sony's Firmware 2.40 for the PlayStation 3 is "the real deal" and will be arriving real soon. Features confirmed to them by their source includes in-game communication, a universal friends list, and in-game access to music tracks.

We've also heard word from Videogaming247 (external link) that they too have been notified by an unnamed source that Sony's PlayStation Firmware 2.40 will sport in-game XMB, trophy support, and in-game XMB access to play your own music. Mere coincidence?

We would have settled at that, but then developers from Criterion Games corroborated in-game music features in the PlayStation 3 version of Burnout Paradise. While the Cagney update is under development, and therefore also "coming soon," the additional feature it includes is exclusive to the PS3 version. It says a lot, doesn't it?

Even folks at NeoGAF has reason to believe that Firmware 2.40 will sport more features than was previously speculated. While we aren't going to say that these details are officially confirmed, there's a lot of smoke billowing from outside sources. And where there's smoke...

*UPDATE*: Let's try this again: "PS3 Firmware 2.40 to really include in-game XMB?"

Judging from the recent video, PS3 Firmware 2.40 most probably will. Oh and we know - that's 2K Games' BioShock that the unseen player resumed from the Xross Media Bar's Game menu. Since BioShock is really coming to PS3, feel free to believe that in-game XMB access is coming, too.

Thanks to QJ.NET reader duy817 for the tip.

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the xbox has all processors working together from the dashboard 2 being in a game.

The ps3 has 1 processor dedicated just 4 XMB(waste of memory) and the others do the rest.

Im guessing the patch will make the processors work together like the xbox, so the in game stuff above will work.

plus the spare memory could be used 4 better graphics/loading in the future

# keep telling yourself that [DVSDevise] — na2rul 2008-05-30 00:33

But this is the only reason that makes [superior] XBLIVE worth paying for even though this stuff is already incorporated in the machine. in-game stuff is what makes the community right? So why are they still charging? is it charity, or did every1 decide to be saints and donate?

"much better service, much better service!"

yeah keep telling yourself that.

imo, free is worth the wait

# BS — _ME_ 2008-05-30 00:40

Okay xbot... I have the PS3 from launchday and GTA4 runs fine.

Stop it with the BS!

# And? — Keith K 2008-05-30 00:55

I have a non-launch 60GB and the game freezes.

And saying "The PS3 from launchday" makes you sound like an uneducated moron. Try to pick your battles.

# :D — frank_the_bunny 2008-05-30 01:04

Sounds too good to be true, but it's bound to come eventually, and it's long overdue, so let's hope it's true

# hmm — st4r5cr34m 2008-05-30 02:41

No smoke with out fire - what about dry ice?

I never get my hopes up with Sony anymore. I guess it's because people make up these stupid rumors about HOME and ect all the time, so I have lost my drive for wanting these cool things. It will be cool when it's out, but until I see it for real, I'm not bothered. Don't get me wrong though, I'm all about Sony. I have a PS3, and both types of PSP. I don't hate them, I only hate the rumors.

# bleh — fatez 2008-05-30 02:47

Once they have XMB in game we will see a lot of "why the game drop frames while in xmb"...

always room for complains

# ... — Sw3RvE 2008-05-30 03:00

i dont think the trophy support in this is the same as the Home ones. however i could be wrong.

# WHAT? — theaceoffire 2008-05-30 03:29

Who the *hell* wants to be in the XMB while playing a game? I am 99% sure it will pause the game play, or it should anywho.

# .. — _ME_ 2008-05-30 03:47

XD @ Keith K

# not always — Keith K 2008-05-30 04:08

Cant pause online multiplayer, can it?

# keith k — 93pauott 2008-05-30 04:23

you can pause multiplayer, you will be disconnected or just stopping in your position (letting the other guys killing you) until you unpause it.

# Not really, no — Keith K 2008-05-30 04:41

Disconnecting is not an option. Period.

Yes you can have it pause your character as it does in Warhawk, or most other games, but the game will still be running in the background, most likely visible. Will it make a difference in the actual gameplay while not using the XMB? Hopefully not..

But you can't disregard them as mutually exclusive. Games cannot be affected by the implementation of In-Game XMB, or its a failure.

# more and less — ka0sx 2008-05-30 06:12

the 2.4 update contains alot more then they say but alot of the functions will be disabled in the release version untill it has full support,

In testing there hasn't really been any disconnects...

# well... — fiberwire 2008-05-30 06:19

finally..... some hope.

# .... — Silver-Tiger 2008-05-30 06:38

If you are sooo in love with your 360, why do you still have to creep around the PS3 section?

# Here's to hoping... — RexNox 2008-05-30 06:49

@whoitmayconcer n: The Cell is designed to take in multiple levels of information at once. I think this is why some of the games don't run at @720p instead they are saving some of the memory to allow for other information...like XMB or a Home connection.

I-XMB shouldn't be a problem for most people. However, the people who are freezing are probably so because they are maxing out on all their resources, that is, wireless broadband, downloading, small harddrive 60 or lower with less than 25% of it available, playing a RAM-heavy game, stuffed into a cabinet without the ever being cleaned. In other words, it's ready to smoke. And, I mean these factors don't help, it still could lag or freeze at any time, because the Cell isn't designed like other computers.

If I understand the Cell correctly, think of it as a choir singing a 6-part song. Each part has a director, and they all can hand information to the singers independently and even dip into a vocal stockpile when they want to. Now, imagine that this 6-part song is song by two people. So, you have six directors giving information to two people at the speed of light and/or sound.

Well, what happens when one of those people sings the wrong note, but was giving the right information? Bug...

Or, what if there are too many words for the person to sing? Lag...

What if the audience just expects their to be more words? Then, what?

# oops... — RexNox 2008-05-30 06:52

what if the audience just expects there...

# woohoo? — Apeaggedon 2008-05-30 06:55

hmmm super excited but dont know if i want to get TOO excited and then be let down... in game xmb will be awsome ,however there might be some problemo's cuz of it bieng new ... now as far as ingame music.... if its true and does happen,then i will screem with tears of joy.

thats the only thing i liked about terd box that i didnt like about ps3.

and that dudes right wen it comes to japan,they dont like talking or something-my guess is that since its all compact in tokyo and other places over there,its odd for them to talk over the network since they all live so close together,might as well just come over to their house and play or just talk and anybody can hear you. lol

sony fandude and japan fanboy all the way :)

# **drumers** — FearEvil19 2008-05-30 07:26

...COOOOOMMENT OF THE WEEEEEK!

# I don't think so — platon 2008-05-30 07:32

Maybe for the music stuff. But the trophee support is in "home" so it's gonna be a long time before we have that. And for the in-game XMB, sony would brag about that instead of making a little supprise, I'd say. Anyway, they said they had no plans for in-game XMB this year, wich mean I would be really supprised, and happy, if the 2.4 have it, unless the 2.4 pops in more than 3 months, then it would just be normal.

# why? — platon 2008-05-30 07:46

Just downgrade when the hacking firmware pops. There is already downgrade options, and if we think about the psp, you can ALWAYS downgrade, it's gonn abe the same on the ps3.

Finally, I don't think we'll see a cracked firmware before mid 2k9 (that launches ISO I mean), and the games will auto-updates your firmware, so you should have waited before buying a ps3 then.

PS: I find it wierd to wait for cheap stuff when you pay per month on x360 :S. You should have bought only one console and support it with games instead. Anyway in a year or so the craked firmware will pop. The x360 is always hackable, like the wii.

# ? — Eclipze_ 2008-05-30 09:06

They never said "they had no plans for in-game XMB this year". I remember on the PSblog they actually said their working to get it out this year. So complete opposite right there.

But for the trohpy thing, theres supposed to be a 2D trohpy system put into the XMB. They did say that every feature in Home would be available to those who don't want to use Home. So I wouldn't be too suprised to see it.

Anyways I hope in-game XMB does come with this next update, would be perfect to finally answer messages in game and hopefully cross chat on the mic with people in different games.

# Actually no fatez — Eclipze_ 2008-05-30 09:11

I bet it'll be the opposite. The XMB will be a little slower when you pull it up in the game. The frame rate wont drop. If you notice, the few games that actually HAVE the in-game XMB feature do exactly what I said.

So dissconnection and lag wont happen.

But one thing.. Nuh duh it'll pause the game! What do you expect to walk around while typing a message to a friend or picking your music??? Be smart peoples..

# so you have a launch day ps3 that doesnt freeze... — Morlander 2008-05-30 09:44

do you want a button and a prize? noone asked you but facts are factas many people with emoption chip consoles are having issues plain and simple telling and sony needs to correct the issue with a firmware update

# i agree — games133 2008-05-30 09:53

i think u should be able to talk and msg poeple while u in a game i mean the ps 3 cell has about 9 little prossesors on the cell chip rougly floating about 1.3-1.6 so if it carnt do then sont are dowing summat wrong. i know the system is relitivly new to devlopers and understanding how to get the best out it wont happen for atleast year or so in my rekkoning i still think sony and co could try alittle better to get in game xmb dune.

and yes i do owen 1 and i use it a lot not just for game i play every think of my pc on it.

# nuffsaid noclue — damonous 2008-05-30 10:19

@nuffsaid: I don't think you understand the Cell architecture. If it were even possible for them to change the low-level architecture of the CPUs data paths via a software patch, it would totally hose those games engineered properly on the PS3 platform. The multi-core Cell architecture is NOT the crude 'throw more horses at it' concept as the 360's triple-core. The Cell design is akin to the idea that the primary core is the Command-in-Chief and the other 7 used cores are the Generals of the Armed Forces, each assigned to a specific task (such as audio, AI, shaders, etc). If they were suddenly told to operate on an equal playing field, I would imagine you'd suddenly have a shload of broken games. So, I would think that they either been working to reduce the memory footprint of the XMB and processor priority, or that of the OS, in order to squeak out the extra threads needed to incorporate something that wasn't there to begin with. Of course, there's also the other perfectly logical conclusion that perhaps they always planned it from the start, and never let devs use up a 'hidden' PS3 Cell resource just for the 'rainy day' purpose like this.

# @Platon — Kingofdaberbz 2008-05-30 10:23

I rather wait for several reasons. We already can run a partial debug on ps3, so it won't be long before the ps3 can run a full. Hopefully by the end of June we'll have "something." There will most likely be a downgrader, but for which firmware? How long would it take for a 2.4 downgrader? Oh, and I bought my ps3 because someone sold me me a 80gb ps3 for $200 with two game, I couldn't pass on that.

Pay? I don't pay for anything. I get XBL for free(codes) One console? Why? I buy multiple consoles because of exclusives. I want Ninja Gaiden 2, Halo, Gears 2, Infinite Undiscovery, Alan Wake, Banjo, Fable 2,etc. There's also a few ps3 exclusives I like too, God Of War being my favorite franchise. I have a hacked Wii, but I probably won't hack my 360, I don't want to be banned.

But I don't care if Sony or Nintendo ban me since I don't like their online or have any friends with those consoles.

# ITS TRUE. — NarooN 2008-05-30 10:50

I don't care if you think these are useless features (If you do, you're either anti-social or don't deserve your PS3) but they're coming. SCEA and SCEE confirmed this long ago in various ads and other statements. There's no reason to think it's untrue because fans have been requesting these things for a very long time, and Sony has been reading their message boards ever since they were up.

Where do you think the custom themes came from? Sony did it because they saw how popular it was on the PSP from the Custom Firmware front, so they made custom themes possible for everyone and then put it on PS3. Sony DOES listen to their fans, and a lot of the firmware updates we've been getting in the past are mostly comprised of what the fans want.

# @rexnox — na2rul 2008-05-30 13:41

you'v played with thr cell before haven't you?

# i dont belive it — BRAV04 2008-05-30 14:03

i still dont belive this. lets put it this way

,,,,,, ill belive it, when i see.

# SRLemmiwinks is correct — GW2 2008-05-30 14:05

that is fact, beleive it or not.

# i can argue with ut state ment — BRAV04 2008-05-30 14:08

this article does not say RUMOR there we go i feel relived but i commented on the bottom on what i said im sticking to that

# Here's a leaked video of in-game XMB firmware 2.4 — duy817 2008-05-30 15:06

updated news:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26410929&sid=6191876&action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

leaked video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q84sLg17658

# didn't they already tell you to get lost? — CheckMate0289 2008-05-30 16:40

@berbz, seriously what the hell are you doing spreading your xbox fanboynism. just because you own both doesnt mean your not one. and keeping it at a lower firmware? like updating would do any harm. theres no custom firmware coming out anytime soon! mind as well chuck it out the window and use that as a reason why you don't like ps3 in the first place.

# ?? — MrBlonde746 2008-05-30 18:21

Why is BioShock playing?

# ^^ — MrBlonde746 2008-05-30 18:24

As far as I know there wasn't a beta for the PS3 version of BioShock

# Awwwwwwwwwww — mcd1992 2008-05-30 18:31

Dang i was hoping we would have internet browser also but oh well in game chat and music will still rock

# . — _ME_ 2008-05-30 18:35

XD @ Morlander

# Explanation on the vid. — NarooN 2008-05-30 19:32

It's very possible that both were real. It's obviously from an insider since Bioshock isn't out yet on PS3 (but has been confirmed for it) and that this insider has access to the new firmware as well as a test run on Bioshock for PS3. Unlike the phony "Custom Firmware on PS3" videos, there's no reason to count this out as "fake".

# I wonder how the trophies will work without home — platon 2008-05-30 19:51

A great update indeed, I hope we're gonna see this this week or next one. I'm hoping for the trophies too, even if I don't see how we could see the trophies without home. Unless the next update includes home since the last beta is already finished. Or maybe it's only the part of home where you see the trophies? Or maybe it's only a home-less trophy room in 2D instead, like a sheet of paper, dunno.

# like I said before... — Someone_PR 2008-05-30 20:41

Home is just a fancy way to look your trophies in 3d. This is just the archievements, you can see them in your profile or like in this pics...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/windermerekid/pstrophiesb.jpg

# really? — NarooN 2008-05-30 22:35

I could have sworn Home would be like living a second life. I guess they decided to drop 95% of the features we've been seeing for the past couple of years.

# hmm... — Someone_PR 2008-05-30 23:30

I was just referring about the home trophy room dude...

# well... — 93pauott 2008-05-31 00:27

i've played a game that disconnects when you are pausing, i cant remember the name of the game, but it was like COD.

# Ya cool, whatever... — whaleshark 2008-05-31 01:21

Ya we all saw that coming... BUT

Why not show us some of that bioshock? lol i was like oh cool in game XMB... but then i was like

OMGZORS BIOSHOCKZ!!!!!! I just wish he would leak that too...

lol i still cant wait however. In game XMB is a DREAM for me,

BUT I SAWZ ZE BIOSHOCK ON TE PS3Z! OMGZ!!!!!! H4X!

# I don't buy it... — girandhistacos 2008-05-31 02:00

MY PS3 doesn't have the date and time up in the right hand corner... does anybody else? I haven't heard any news about that.

Until I hear about it, I'm not believing this video.

ANYWAYS why is in-game XMB so damned important. IT'S NOT. You have a game console. If you have a game in it, PLAY IT! Screw the people you need to message.

# 1 question — GW2 2008-05-31 02:15

does gta4 pause itself when you hit the PS button? cuz when you hit the guide button on 360 it doesnt.

# This is most likely fake... — The Frenchman 2008-05-31 03:29

I don't know why, but if I were to make a video of ingame XMB I wouldn't use Bioshock... because IT'S NOT OUT BEFORE FALL!

I would believe it if it was over GT5P or GTA4 or anything already out... but really why would this guy have the new firmware AND Bioshock for PS3?

Dunno how he did it...

this looks legite, and I want to believe but;

MY mind is telling me NO, but my body, MY BODY IS telling me YEESSSSSS!

# yep — roca 2008-05-31 03:44

it does auto-pause

# uhh.... — Dremth 2008-05-31 03:55

the frenchman has a point. not to mention, why would there be the user login and logout while youre in the game? or why would there be the web browser and playstation store? or videos? youre telling me this update will let me watch videos while i have a game running in the background?

i think not.

# bioshock — Dremth 2008-05-31 04:00

i guess they used bioshock to show that its not fake.

its like saying: this is real because we're sony. we're the only ones who can get bioshock for ps3 before its out.

# fake video? — BULL3TPR00F 2008-05-31 06:20

im nnot trying to debunk this myself cuz i truly hopes it true as well and it looks like it may be, but i have a feeling the videos fake.

you dont see much of the game itself after it resumes, so im thinking the guy who made the video just resumed a VIDEO.

because i already know (or at least believe i did it before), that you can open up the cross media bar as a video is playing (the video still plays in the background too).

so maybe he was jsut playing a paused vidoe n then resumed it quickly when he started it again.

# Yea, I was wondering that as well — Illegal Machine 2008-05-31 06:23

Music I can see being available...

But yea, the PS Store? and the Movies?

whatever....

But then again when you navigate to the MOVIE tab, you'll notice that under the Windows Media Player button, theres an option to select Music, and Photos from the Movie folder...

and they do nothing... SO it's not really surprising. to see them add things that really do nothing and show up anyway

Not at all seeing as how there several unused icons on the PSP as well. (like game sharing and the camera which shows up even if it's not available in your country or region)

# You know what I think? — The Frenchman 2008-05-31 07:00

this is a video playing in the background, and he just pressed the PS button to go back to XMB and then go back to video...

# It matters.. — Eclipze_ 2008-05-31 07:02

If you hit the PS button in a single player game it will pause the game (which I think is a good thing). But when you do it in a multiplayer online game it won't pause. If it doesn't pause when your in a single player game I think thats kind of stupid for the 360. . .

But anyways, all I can say now is I hope the video is true. We'll all find out soon.

# BTW — The Frenchman 2008-05-31 07:03

Look how he never films the left part of the screen when he goes back... I'm sure it's to hide the PLAY icon.

but the date in the upper corner makes me doubt, this has been a feature that I wanted for a while it's possible that it's a new feature.

# well — Eclipze_ 2008-05-31 07:11

Log in and log out should be on the XMB. It makes sense because what if you get disconnected during a single player game and you want to still talk to your friend? You just sign in like normal ^_^.

One thing I didn't see in the video was the web browser.. But if you have better eyes then me, I guess theres just some Icons that don't work. I bet when you try and click on it it'll say "Can't use this feature while in game" or something like that.

I hope this video is true because I'm really looking forward to these features. And its about damn time they put that little clock there lol.

# BINJOO REEEEEEEEEEAAAA AAADDDDDD — BRAV04 2008-05-31 08:17

i got it that could be a video and all he can be doing is pressing the PS button not that hard. like it could be video of Xbox version of BIOSHOCK so how do we know when i watch a movie that i downloaded on my ps3 all i have to do is press the ps button and boom im Video XMB boom i brole there system right there

REAAAAADDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDDDDDD WHATTTTTTT I JUST COMMENTED

# and a nother addd — BRAV04 2008-05-31 08:22

the date says may 30th now how is that possibe when i saw this video a day ago well this is bull. but i do belive IN game this week on tuesday or next before metal gear

# REALLLLSSEEEEE DATEEEE +^D — BRAV04 2008-05-31 08:27

Hey guys and girls, in a follow up to all my other reports from my exclusive insider on 2.40, I have some small news on 2.40. You may have heard all the rumors about 2.40 arriving this month, with some even as going as far as stating a release on June 10th. Well it gives me great pleasure to confirm this date from my insider who says that right now, Sony has set the current firmware release date for 06/10/08. However he did put great emphasis that Sony could still possibly bring the update forward as well as back however it is very likely it will arrive on that exact day which happens to be a Tuesday. I hope that answers some questions and on a final note, when i did talk to him about the videos spreading like wildfire on the internet of 2.40 in action, he said they are legit.

# gotta look at the video — Eclipze_ 2008-05-31 15:48

Didn't you notice when he passes over the video bar theres no videos on his harddrive? Its kind of impossible to pause a video thats not even there lol.

I think its real because theres no way to add extra icons AND change the letters next to the icons by hacking so far. And even if he could hack the names and icons, how could he add the date and time on the top? Plus the date adds up with when the video was posted on youtube. So I think this may be real.

# ... — Eclipze_ 2008-05-31 15:55

He doesn't have any videos on his video section, so how could that be a video?

BRAV04 and the date could just be wrong OR he lives somewhere where thats the correct date.

Anyways how the hell would he get the date and time up there in the first place?

The only thing I see thats weird is that if the date is there, then where would the information board go? Unless the date and time only pop up while your in a game or pops up somewhere else when your outside the game.

# .. — duy817 2008-05-31 17:01

no problem qj.net

# 2.40 — Steven Breuls 2008-05-31 21:18

cmon give us 2.40 debug firmware

# look closer — BULL3TPR00F 2008-05-31 21:35

there are no icons whatsoever under the videos tab. there is always the default options under the lsit (i.e media server, memory stick, etc).

there isnt even the no videos text.

so he has obviously done something to alter it, unless the ingame xmb dusnt show videos for some odd reason (prolly cuz u wont b able to atch them but styll)

# You just said it.. — Eclipze_ 2008-06-01 00:30

For a not so odd reason you won't be able to play videos while playing a game. Don't see why anyone would want to see their favorite TV show or something while playing a game. Thats like saying people are going to browse the internet while in-game. It doesn't show the videos so you won't try and click it I'm guessing.

And so far there hasn't been any hacks that lets people change icons (add or delete some), and change the text next to the icons. I think it's official..

# I know — Eclipze_ 2008-06-01 12:21

call of duty 4 kicks you when your idle (you don't touch your controller for a while). Thats not really "disconnecting", and that'll happen weather you pause the game or not.

Never had a game disconnect me for pausing..

# If this is True — RommelTJ 2008-06-01 16:08

T minus NINE days and counting!

(please update the countdown)

# Think Before You Speak — JuAnM269 2008-06-02 02:45

I had to create a user name to post on here just for this occasion. The one thing I cannot stand is people that either watched the video and did not catch everything in it, or the one's that make comments before watching. If you all watch the video closely you will notice at 0:06 the icon on the XMB is a Trophy and the name next to it says "Trophy Collection". At 0:25 there is a folder icon that says "Trusted Packager Files" and the last thing to point out is the fact that before they resume the game there is a blu-ray disc icon and the name BioShock there. So to end my first post all I can tell you about me is nothing but trust me when I do tell you that this is firmware 2.40. The Firmware is real and does work properly. The reason for the missing icons is those features have been disabled. Yes Remote Play is there because the support is needed. More on that later. And someone is getting a nice rear end chewing for taking a video with their camera phone. Will these features be released to the public? Only the month of June will tell.

# Might be true. — frazRETRO 2008-06-02 05:55

Anyone notice the clock in the corner?

This makes it even more belivable.

But playing BioShock?

Hmm. Maybe not.

I guess we will find out.

# HMMM! — K3b4b5t4r 2008-06-02 11:32

What is in the box in the corner as it goes back into bioshock? Hope its not the resume playback box! i heard about this in warhawk and they were laughing about it so i do hope it is real! is there a date yet?

# ?? — Eclipze_ 2008-06-02 15:12

Who are you talking to? Because I'm pretty sure almost everyone noticed what you said.

Anyways on the Bioshock blu-ray note I think that makes me believe it even more. Theres no hacks or anything that lets you change the text next to an Icon PLUS fake the blu-ray disk symbol.

We all knew this update was coming one day.. All I can say is its about time ^_^, and I hope theres cross game chat so games that don't have mic. support (like FEAR or something) can now use them, plus talking to people in different games would be a kool feature.

# GTA 4 HELLO!!! — evil_211 2008-06-02 18:43

is this gonna fix gta 4 freeze or what....i'm sick of *****in waiting

# crack me — g1BBz 2008-06-02 19:12

Obviously a PSP simply look at the top right hand corner or let me guess "2.40" miraculously displays the time and date as well, how coincidental.

# Ok looks legit — K3b4b5t4r 2008-06-02 20:40

I have been looking at this video very carefully after i downloaded it and i have to say it cant be a psp, movement is too fast and if its was a video it would not have the time in the corner! After clearing up the picture of the box in the corner it looks like it says bioshock and continue something so i myself thinks it is real but i am not certain!

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# what freezing — K3b4b5t4r 2008-06-03 00:56

all my freezing left with the gta 1.10 up date! at what point do u get the freezing and have u put cheats in my friends one was fine till he used cheats!

# what do you mean what freeze? — evil_211 2008-06-03 12:44

mine still freezes in both multiplayer and single player....that update only fixes the multiplayer connection...not the freeze i want to play my *****ing grand theft auto 4 damn it!!! ***** you playstation and rockstar for making us wait. they're may be only a minimal amount out there that are having the problem, but we are still customers and fans of there games and they shouldn't just ignore us!

# i think its a fake — dougan636 2008-06-03 22:31

something has been bothering me about this video, so much i had to sign up and post about it, when it briefly skims over the settings tab, everything says 'configuration' instead of settings (i.e game configuration instead of game setting and music configuration instead of music settings) unsure if this is how the other models have there ps3, but i live in australia, and mine says settings, also in the video tab wheres the BD data folder (i think you can delete it thou) so it may be develpers ps3 or a fake, unsure, but in game music would be awesome, its the only thing temping me to the dark side - 360, so if if sony do this for there fans/customers, it would moreso increase sells and gain more repuation with the company.

# and more... — dougan636 2008-06-03 22:34

also, just noticed the network only having manuals and remote play, wheres the internet? info board and folding @ home?

# my own biz — xche78x 2008-06-05 03:32

ooh lucky me, no freezes on gta4, i got a 20gb (upgraded to 250gb) nov.11 launch ps3 japanese version.

i think the mandatory gta4 update fixed whatever the problem was before it happened to me, but this is just my guess.

and for those with freezing ps3 with gta4, why not try backing up your files to an external drive and formatting your ps3 internal hard drive and or try using a spare hard drive. i think its the weakest part of the ps3 which usually are the point of errors. iaef theres always customer support!

# kojima — jac_the_ripper 2008-06-06 11:36

insisted sony to release the firmware before MGS 4 release. i am thinking there will be trophies in this game.

# uh.. — Eclipze_ 2008-06-07 20:49

Why would they put useless features there?

Think about it, your playing a game.. Why would someone browse the internet while playing a game? Why would they look at the info board or do folding @ home? And if this is really a debug unit then there could possibly be some things missing because their (sony) is testing certain things. Now the BD data folder is another usless thing while your in-game. I'm also guessing it says configuration because its a debug ps3.

This looks reasonably real. If the internet brower and info board WERE there then I'd start thinking its fake.

# My bad for — Eclipze_ 2008-06-07 20:52

typo's.

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