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New GTA IV details, scans

Posted Jul 23, 2007 at 6:24AM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Games Aktuell

German video game magazine Games Aktuell landed a pretty nice scoop on a few new details about the eagerly awaited Grand Theft Auto IV (for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3). Since we don't speak German here, we're turning to Gamers-Creed for the translations.

First off, let's talk a bit about the girl in the scan to your right. Apparently, her name is Lola. Speculation has her pegged as a prostitute for now, but details about her background have yet to be revealed. She does look pretty fine, though.

The tongue-in-cheek humor of the series is also still very much alive in Grand Theft Auto IV. In a mission where Niko has to kill a lawyer named Goldberg, the lawyer reportedly says, "I don't fear guns. You know, guns don't kill people - Videogames kill people."

Here are a few more details for you guys to ponder:

There won't be any Ammu Nation shops in the game
Niko can get a cab to take him to any point on the map. Cabbies will also take Niko to the nearest restaurant if he's hungry, or to the nearest hospital if he's wounded. However, he won't stand a chance of getting a cab if the cops are after him.
The camera is now positioned at a point lower and further to the left when driving a car. Rockstar reportedly did this to give the game a more realistic feeling. Camera views can still be changed, though.
During a mission, the map will also show the best route to wherever Niko is supposed to go apart from a symbol.

For more scans, feel free to click on the read link below. Thanks to Geo for the tip.

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The new stuff is looking cool. But I suppose I'll change the camera settings so it's like the old GTAs(san andreas and others) since it's the best view(maybe I'm wrong, I'll see when I get the game).

The best route is really great, it's a great addon, I just hope it'll change automatically if I don't take their 1st route(I suppose so).

# 1st route — Guest 2007-07-23 10:02

Must be frank, i dont know about the "best route" thing, i mean one nice thing in GTA was the realisticness of some things, this best troute thing will simply make the game a bit less realistic, think about it when you drive to somewhere you dont always know the better route!

Nice news thou, can't wait to play this game^^

# Idiots like you — AoxomamoxoA 2007-07-23 10:03

Youre the reason why there arent any children in GTA games.

# About the gps.... — Guest 2007-07-23 10:09

they copied that from saints row

# umm — Guest 2007-07-23 10:18

How is it less realistic?

I have a gps in my car....does that make my life less realistic?

# well — Guest 2007-07-23 10:20

I guess saint's row copied the idea from Garmin and Tom Tom right?

# mother in law bein a b!tch? — na2rul 2007-07-23 10:29

AMMUNATION HAS THE SOLUTION!

# LOL — na2rul 2007-07-23 10:30

# gtauk — Guest 2007-07-23 10:37

oh yer Good point

# america or london?? — Guest 2007-07-23 11:23

We complain about left hand right hand drive, who cares? What they should have done is allow Niko to travel between London and NYC using passenger jets and have two maps, surely they could take advantage of blu rays extra disk space?

# Sick of hearing *bu..but...but...BLURAY!* — AoxomamoxoA 2007-07-23 11:47

*sigh* when are you gonna learn?

More content means more time

More time means more money

More disc space does not equal more time or money

They arent going to make a whole other continent accessible just because they have space on a bluray disc that only 3million people can take advantage of. Content doesnt just appear out of thin air, it takes time and lots of money. Just because a movie doesnt take up all 9GBs on a DVD doesnt mean theyre gonna shoot extra scenes and expand on the storyline just to fill the space. And its the exact same thing with games.

Get this through your head, bluray means nothing for games, NOTHING.

# Oh really, Blue Ray has nothing to offer for games... — Guest 2007-07-23 12:34

what about space moron! All the developers have already said that it was a smart move on SONY's part for introducing lots of spare space for future games.

# seriously.. — Guest 2007-07-23 12:52

You people say this about everything. If you want to read or watch real news go to an actual news station. Otherwise, STFU about it.

# GTA4 — Guest 2007-07-23 12:58

This games going to have everything from every GTA this is going to be hella fun! I hope lots of buildings to enter in this version.

# AoxomomoxoA! There is a first time for everything! — Folding Junkie! 2007-07-23 13:24

We finally agree %100 on something!

# C O M P R E S S I O N — Guest 2007-07-23 13:49

what do you think sony wouldve said if gears was a ps3 exclusive there would be every sony fan saying ooo its confirmed gears takes up 30gb impossible to be put on dvd its all just propaganda.

# skies — Guest 2007-07-23 13:50

Yarly, my crappy GPS does that

# @ Aoxwhatever — Guest 2007-07-23 13:54

You're right at the first part, but claiming it does NOTHING is stupid. For one thing, more space means no more compression. Most things can be left in their uncompressed forms (such as textures) for superior quality and speed in access. They can also stick in 1080p video clips instead of having an awesome game and then being thrown a pixelated 640x480 cutscene out of the blue midgame.

# He did learn! — Folding Junkie! 2007-07-23 14:07

He learned that more capacity allows for more information. The fact that it is not being used now does not mean that it can not or will not be used in the future.

Even if it doesn't ever get used completely the fact still remains that it IS available to an ambitious enough studio. The fact is that Perfect Dark Zero for the 360 already uses more than 1 DVD. What makes you think that is all the bigger they will ever make them?

You try not to sound biased but your comment "only 3 million people can take advantage of" makes your true colors shine. BTW, it's almost 4 million now! Your one and only real reason for negating the POSSIBLE benefits of BD for gaming is that your 360 does not have it. Don't tell me, "Well I own an PS3 too!" Because I know that you do and I know what you think of it. Just because you own it does not make your opinion more valid than that of someone else. It just means that it is based off of more than just biased and often incorrect articles on the internet and the opinions of those like MCS, Xman, Shatterdome, and yourself!

When are you gonna learn that just because it is not in the 360 that it is not good for gaming? That is the real question!

# Perfect Dark Zero???? — Guest 2007-07-23 14:43

AHHHHHH PDZ was only one disk buddy the extra disk was for the collector's edition and ahhhhh only had extra pointless features

# Sony fan tries to sound like he knows, but has no idea, next on Fox News! — AoxomamoxoA 2007-07-23 15:01

PDZ took up more than one disc? Wow, I must have been ripped off when I got that game a year ago because I only received one disc. Or maybe you just have NO IDEA what youre talking about (like usual)!!

And as for uncompressed textures and such, it again shows you have no idea what you talk about. If uncompressed textures look so much better then why does Gears of Wars textures look ten times better than the flat bland textures on its competetor, Resistance? Also, 360 can upscale so compressed CGI and video can be played at 1080p and still look just as good as the uncompressed video on bluray.

I still stand by my comment that bluray means nothing for games. Movies, yes, since that is what it was originally designed for. Sony just shoved it down the throats of gamers by forcing the format onto the people who only bought a PS3 for games. And its sad that people like yourself back sony up for their forceful tactics to gain the upper hand in a format war.

# rawr, me (unregistered) has a point. — Folding Junkie! 2007-07-23 15:09

Lossless compression is not necessarily a bad thing. Compressed files need to be decompressed, using clock cycles, but when you find the right mix of compression vs. file size you can feed more info from the disc in a quicker time due to the smaller size of the compressed files. Awesome for textures and models!

Not so awesome for sound, video, or stills! Not all forms of compression are lossless. Sound files can be compressed with lossy or lossless formats and I would personally prefer that mine do not get compressed with lossy formats, if at all.

My 2 cents!

# The point is that it could have been on one disc! — Folding Junkie! 2007-07-23 15:36

What don't you get about that, gentlemen? Why get up to change a stupid disc when it can all fit on one? What is the point of making my controllers wireless then making me walk over to my PS3 to change a disc for the same title? Why have a remote control or an HDTV that is large enough to sit across the room from it if I have to walk over to it to change a disc or turn it up or down. You guys amaze me!

Say a studio decides in four or five years to release a "Best Of" with a few of their better titles once they have moved to the "Greatest Hits" bin. Can you say one BD? Let's see them try that on a DVD. You all show the same thing in common. It's a lack of imagination and a bitter hatred. Hatred for what? You figure that one out on your own.

You can stand by your comment all that you want to. That is what you bots/trolls do all day anyway. BD is not VITAL to gaming. But to say that it means nothing is ignorance at it's best.

BTW, I commented on compression after your post! When you are talking to someone else make another post, you tool. My post on compression stated the same thing that you did. It can be used effectively! You guys need to wipe the drool of your chins and step out of the prehistoric age!

One more thing before I go. Upscaled video, compressed or not, will NEVER look as good as full 1080p video. EVER! Now go away or keep trying to dispute my post with something other than your ignorant references to Fox News or other bogus nonsense that has nothing to due with countering my post.

# im more of a sony fanboy now — Guest 2007-07-23 15:37

put it like this, i used to love my 360 and ps3 but while turning it on today my 360 broke :'( dont believe me ill even send a pic, they said i must wait 4-6 weeks (i have 2 360's and a ps3) and now i just choose sony overall considering that MS is unreliable and atleast they have good customer service and btw bluray for the win... also im goign to be laughing when xbox 720 has a built in bluray drive and all the ms fanboys are quiet

# @FOLDING JUNKIE — Guest 2007-07-23 17:58

You are laziest turd that I have ever heard of. Too lazy to get up and change a disc 1 time. The first half of the game is on one disc...second half is on another disc. You would have tochange the disc once in 100 hours of GTA. You lazy b*tch...I bet ur fat....You are fatty aren't you....Go take a jog. No better idea....get a 360...so you'll have to change a disc once in awhile....That way you'll get some exercise. Im a genius. I just solved Americas obesity epidemic!

# f — Guest 2007-07-23 20:55

can u pls suck my small peniz :( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

# Not quite rawr — Guest 2007-07-23 23:05

"For one thing, more space means no more compression. Most things can be left in their uncompressed forms (such as textures) for superior quality and speed in access."

You're right on some points, but textures will NEVER be in an uncompressed form this generation, regardless of Blu-ray. This is a misconception amoungst many gamers who do not understand why compression is being used.

Compression is used in games to IMPROVE quality and improve performance. All modern GPUs support a number of compressed formats and have hardware support for decompression ON THE FLY, meaning negligable (if any) performance loss for decompression. And because memory is limited, compression allows MORE textures to be loaded into video ram, and being smaller, can be loaded from disk in less time.

Hence they take up less memory, they load quicker, and they can be processed without effecting performance.

Why do you think that despite the increses in bandwidth and memory, images on websites are almost ALL compressed (JPG, GIF etc). Again, they take up less space and they download quicker, and the quality is not effected unless the compression levels are too high, and that takes me back to gaming.

Compression is vital for giving us quality graphics in gaming, so gamers should stop talking about it as if it's a bad thing. If devs need to save space, they don't compress the textures further, they simply use lower resolution textures 9i.e. smaller) which when compressed, take up less space.

Hence uncompressed data on Blu-ray will mostly benefit streamed audio (video is always compressed).

# Wrong, ACE! — Folding Junkie! 2007-07-24 02:42

Your ignorance about Americans is astounding. Do you think that we are all fat and lazy.

I would bet that I am in better shape than you are. You opinion of Americans is incorrect and narrow minded. I did not say that I did not want to get up to change games. I said that I don't want to get up to change DISCS for the SAME GAME! Is is that hard to understand?

All three of you combined must have the IQ of a rodent! You are definitely NOT a genius. I already jog every day! I swim, play sports, and eat healthy food! Laziness is not my problem. Neither is obesity! Any other preconceptions that you would like disproved?

If I wanted a 360 don't you think that I would already have one? If you can only resort to name calling and being offensive to Americans I could care less what one more ignorant European (the ones who constantly badmouth America) has to say!

My 2 cents worth!

# You guys are all *****ing idiots — Guest 2007-07-24 03:00

I didn't read all that crap you fat 12 year old computer nerds wrote abut blu-ray compression and all that jazz. What you should be saying here is the classic quote from GTAIII now improvised in GTAIV. Oh thats right seen as you dumbasses are all young and stupid you probably weren't even around when GTAIII was released, therefore you didn't even notice the trivia. In that case, I will will post it myself but remember it like yesterday:

"Yeah, I love this show. I love hearing peoples opinions, thats what made this country great, people and opinions. And stuff. Most of all guns. Ive had it when people whine about guns killing people. Guns don't kill people death kills people! Ask a doctor, its a medical fact. You cant die from a bullet, you can die from a cardiac arrest or organ failure or a major hemrich a small piece of metal ain't the problem. Besides, I only use my machine gun in the safety of my own home and car."

If you don't understand then you're a prepubescent retard.

# Really zero? — Guest 2007-07-24 03:54

That was nothing but a patronising and condescending post.

Some people have made some good points here and put some some good arguements (albeit off topic in many cases), and I'm willing to bet that quite a few of them are older than you (including myself at 41, yes 41).

So to label EVERYONE here as 12 year old computer nerds is rather stupid. Perhaps you should read 'all that crap' afterall, you may learn something. :|

# Omg! — Guest 2007-07-24 10:01

You're all really cute. It's amazing!

# xbox 360 fans are just jealous — Guest 2007-07-24 13:11

Ok so there are all these xbox fans tallking about how blu-ray isn't needed for gaming, So if thats the case we don't we just go back to using cd's.I mean they can do the same thing just less storage and probably slower, the xbox 360 might have been quieter with a standalone cd drive, why don't we just go back to using cd's like on the ps1? Whats the point in having dvd if we can just use like x amount of cd's why not(this is xbox fan logic).

I mean all that extra space on the dvd wouldn't mean better audio and video, and more of it, i mean dev's would have made halo the with same the level's that would be just as big, and the gfx just as good, lets not forget the audio and visuals would have been designed for 8 cd's, dev's wouldn't be thinking that they have any limitswhatsoeve r when it comes to storage, hmmm, and that they could chuck in x amount of discs... right?(don't know how many GB's halo is)

# Zero! — Folding Junkie! 2007-07-24 17:29

That thoroughly describes the value of that post! ZERO!

# what — Guest 2007-07-24 18:40

Every single section of comments on this site turns in the biggest, lamest flame war about xbox/ps3 fan boys and what is better. Anyone who actually reads all the lame arguments are *****ing stupid and don't learn anything. See I have already created one by simply pointing out something ACTUALLY interesting from the original news post. Come on flamers do your thing!

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