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Movie Execs Favor Microsoft's HD-DVD Over Sony's Blu-ray |
Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Disney, Microsoft, Paramount Pictures, playstation 3 updates, Sony
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It's a known fact that the Blu-ray dilemma is the very reason why Sony has taken the plunge down to an embarrassing news on the delay of the PS3 launch. Now, it seems like there's some kind of a domino effect going on. Sony has been trying to push the PS3 as a total entertainment device, with the help of Disney and Fox. However, recently, the president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment has finally favored MicrosoftÂ’s backed HD-DVD format rather than SonyÂ’s Blu-ray. The consequence? Universal, Warner, Paramount, HBO, New Line Cinemas and the Weinstein Company are now all in the HD-DVD camp.
Sony has also touted that the high cost of the PS3 is mainly due to the Blu-ray diode. But Blu-ray movies are also expensive, so now it seems Xbox 360's HD-DVD capability is more appealing than PS3's Blu-ray.
Just when Sony needed support, along came nothing. We're positive that the PS3 gets it going for Sony, but this time around, it has to make amends for all the fans anticipating the PS3 release all over the world.
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No way that's going to happen. No one will buy the F***ing xbox360 HD-DVD add-on! Come on!
They can said anything stupid execs. But when they'll see the final PS3 product they will change there mind.
I'm tired to see some suposed important people trying to know what will happen.......just wait!!!
I think i'm wasting my time posting on stupid things like that.
Everybody know Blu-ray will win buy default. (Ps3 install base)
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Now, I personaly think that igniq has posted an article without proof. I checked both the official Blu-ray and the HD-DVD websites, and neither one says anything about losing / gaining supporting companies. As long as I do not see an official statement from either the HD-DVD / Blu-ray camp, or even from the film industry, I call this news fake.
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And people who think that Sony's PS3 even CAN fail, must not get out much.
As long as they have the games (that sold 100 million units last time) and they do, it won't fail, because there is no alternative for those gamers. X360 certainly isn't, because it doenst have those games.
Never have, never will.
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http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Weinstein_Company/Disc_Announcements/Weinstein_Company_Jumps_into_HD_DVD,_Blu-ray/235
http://www.blu-ray.com/info/
Seven of the eight major movie studios have already announced titles for Blu-ray, including Warner, Paramount, Fox, Disney, Sony, MGM and Lionsgate.
Only Universal its against Blue ray all the others are supporting.
Blue ray have all the most important companys supporting just see for yourselfs.
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/general_information/Section-14009/Index.html
like i said only Universal and Tohisba are not supporting.
About Xbox 360 with HD DVD ad on, i'm just imagining overheat and the famous red ring of death lolool.
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Any one with a bit of common sence know's this is a joke!
This artical is only to easy the pain that the 360's HdDVD
die even before it started!!
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Don't see how anyone can see the 360 is no. 1, if it's in the shop being repaired ala red ring of death.
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And, it would be pretty stupid to dump Blu-Ray completely. PS3 WILL sell like water on a desert. I bet, that majority of current ps2 owners will buy a PS3. If that be even 30-50 million consoles, that's a whole LOT for starters. That's 30-50 million potential customers. Add people who will buy normal standalone BD players. In a year or two, they willl have a large installed userbase for this format. This, and that a lot more hardware manufacturers back up Blu-Ray than HD-DVD. You'll have plenty more BD players to choose from than HD-DVD players soon. Just look at the company list for both sides :)
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Universal is THE ONLY supporter of HD-DVD since BEGINNING, got that dumbasses? SINCE THE F'ing BEGINNING, it's nothing new that they back it.
And HD-DVD isn't M$ format, it's TOSHIBA's, and it's FLOPPING miserably, it doesn't have publishers support, and there are just like 10-50k players on the market.
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alot of people are enjoying this.
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Sony fanboys call this B$....yet 2 updates later where PS3 is said to have 54% of the gaming market, they act like its a fact....
Sony has NEVER had this bad of a rep....and its becuz of thier LIES....They say they will have a universal release, THEY LIE. This is how it has ALWAYS been with sony. They promise and promise and NEVER deliver....does anyone remeber the PS2 HDD and how great that was? or how about the fact that the PSP has been out for like 2 years and the only new thing on it is a Web Broswer....wheres the promised GPS? or camera? They lie....too much.
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No, its not Al Gore.
Its the porno industry. Before anyone makes any comments it should be known that Beta was better than VHS in most ways, better quality, bigger capacity...so why would it not succeed?
Because the porno industry opted for the VHS formatt...and here we are today.
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Consider the demographic of the PS3. Gamers are males, and approximately late-teen to adult(consideri ng the price of the thing, the mean audience age is likely to increase). Perfect audience for porn.
All the more support for Blu-Ray
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talking about blu-ray movies being expensive (which they're not) because of the laser diose is just dumb..hd-dvd also uses it. anyway, hd-dvd movies are about the same price as blu-ray..in some places i've seen blu-ray cheaper
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The Blu-Ray site still has all these companies listed...
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First of all, Sony has been taking support from Hd-dvd and putting them in the blu-ray camp, Universal Studios has ALWAYS BEEN a Hd-dvd exclusive. Blu-Ray disks' high cost, that's somebody who has been living under a rock. Go shop for blu-ray, exact same price of hd-dvds. Blu-ray and Hd-dvds both have support, Blu-ray has more major ones including sony it-self.
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So list sony's lies, stack them up, see which ones are actualy sony's fault, and whats your own ignorance.
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you fanboys are funny, backing BD or HD-DVD because the system you choose backs it. so if sony told you that they're selling a brick to put on top of your tv, because it makes the video look better, even though its a brick you'd all go out and buy it because its the brand you trust
do some research, just cuz PLAYSTATION 3 has BD in that doesnt mean that its going to win
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2nd, to ffaldkja? Lies ?
Here,
They said they can handle 7 controllers, its a lie, its only 4.
They said it will have 2 HDMI ports, it doesnt it has one.
They said global launch, didnt happen.
They said 3 network ports, its only 1.
to post 21. I didnt know that hd-dvd used the same laser. And if they do, roflmao. Since Microsoft will be able to supply every xbox360 owner with a hd-dvd drive, and sony dont havnt enuff to make more then 500 units of ps3. Now thats sad.
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They said they can handle 7 controllers, its a lie, its only 4.
It still supports 7 via blu tooth, the 8th by usb.
They said it will have 2 HDMI ports, it doesnt it has one.
They did that to lower costs
They said global launch, didnt happen.
They still could make a global launch but there won't be as much units.
They said 3 network ports, its only 1.
Again, to lower costs, it was going to be like a router for the home, since its power ful enough, but everyone complained about the price, they had to remove it.
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you, and your friends aren't a representative sample to begin with. You cannot say ANYTHING based on your and your friends expectations. If you'd know a milion owners of a PS2, then you could be right.
The basis I'm founding my argument on is the fact, that the majority of PS1 owners, sooner or later, bought a PS2. This is a good assumption since most people DO NOT GIVE A SHIAT ABOUT SOME FRUSTRATED SONY-HATING FREAKS STIRRING THE INTERNET. People were satisfied with PS1, and so they bought PS2. People were even more satisfied with PS2, and so they will buy a PS3! It's just normal. Sony sold even more PS2 units, than the PS1 ones. And probably, they'll beat the PS2 with the PS3.
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When Developers showcase their visions of what they want their next-gen titles to be like 3 or 4 years down the road, but can't get quite hit it on day one, does not constitute lying on their part or Sony's.
Things happen, schedules change, that's just a part of life. When the place that you work for changes a company picnic from friday to sunday, does that also count as 'lying'? NO. Things don't always work out as scheduled, and the only thing people and companies can do is work around those changes.
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HD-DVD doesn't deserve to win because it's the inferior format. Straight and simple. Every advantage that HD-DVD supporters have claimed are baseless and completely untrue.
"HD-DVD has better picture quality!" -Wrong, the movies encoded on some HD-DVDs were higher quality than Blu-ray movies due to the use of the VC1 codec (which requires less space) instead of MPEG-2 (which requires the most space). Both Blu-ray and HD-DVD read the same video codecs so it's all up to what Movie Studios do.
"HD-DVD is cheaper!" -I'm looking at Amazon.com right now and I can tell you that the prices for Blu-ray movies are either the same or cheaper.
"HD-DVD players are cheaper." -Well, the ones that only output 720p are only $500. The newer 1080p models are going to be in the $800~1000 range, nearly identical to the prices of Blu-ray players.
"HD-DVD stores more data." -Yes, I've actually seen this statement, and it's hilarious to read. Blu-ray stores 25Gb per layer; HD-dvd stores 15Gb per layer.
The storage limit for HD-dvd is 45Gb (over 3 layers) while the storage limit for Blu-ray is 200Gb (over 8 layers).
Blu-ray discs only cost a few cents more to manufacture than DVDs, so there's no big deal there. Blu-ray is superior in every way to HD-DVD, and basically costs the same amount. Plus it has the backing of nearly every movie studio and is standard in every Playstation 3 console. No need to buy expensive add-ons since movie capabilities are built right into the box.
On the day that PS3 launches, there will be more Blu-ray movie players on the market than HD-dvd players. There's no denying that. The PS3 is going to push the Blu-ray market into the mass market, just as the PS2 pushed DVD into the mass market. And the fact that Sony is pushing superior technology that is truly in the best interests of consumers is great, unlike Microsoft who supports an inferior technology solely to take a stab at their competition (and seeks to make a profit off of that behavior by selling it as an expensive add-on).
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33. You just pulled my goddamn thoughts out of my mind.
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FAT
BLACK
DONG!!!!!!
THATS WHAT PSP AND PS3 LOVERS LIKE!!!!!!!!!!! !
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Jacked into the matrix lately? ;)
Quote "Imagine walking into a movie and taking part in real-time...this is the world you are about to enter".
Hmmm, I'm still waiting for that. ;)
Anyway, I'm not sure about direct lies, but I do believe Sony have been less than honest at times.
For example, according to Sony, the PS3 was due to launch spring this year, and they blaimed the postponed launch on the delay of the Advanced Access Content System (AACS). In otherwords, the PS3 was all but ready for a spring launch but unfortunately AACS caused it to be delayed. Do you really believe that?
This was in March and as a result, MANY gamers here (perhaps yourself included) said it is probably a good thing, because Sony now had 8 months to stockpile PS3s in preparation for the worldwide launch in November. Well, the recent news shows that there was no way Sony could have ever launched the PS3 in spring this year regardingless of AACS, the console just wasn't ready!
So imo, Sony knew they would not be ready in time for spring 2006 when they announced it, but only said so to put gamers off from buying the XBox 360 (since many will wait for the PS3), the same kind of tactics they used successfully against the Dreamcast. I also doubt they really believed they could pull off a worldwide launch this year as announced, but again only said so because to announce in March this year that the PS3 was a year away from launch in Europe would have been VERY poorly received by Europeon gamers.
I have my PS3 on pre-order, but now I have to wait until March 2007 for a console I thought I was getting before Christmas. I don't feel Sony have been truthful about the state of the console and the launch, so whilst I'm not going to cancel my pre-order after all this time, I do feel Sony have not been truthful on this matter.
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Heck to save you some reasearch here is the current status:
Fox, Sony, MGM, Disney, and Lionsgate plus a few smaller studios support BlueRay exclusivly.
Paramount and WarnerBros used to be HD-DVD exclusive but now support both.
and finaly Universal exclusivly support HD-DVD(currently)
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This just goes to show that the 360 and HD-DVD will win in the end, and do you sony know it alls want to know why, you probably dont because your probably all uptight and stubborn as hell because you feel you need to defend a dead system...at least thats what your drunk abusive father said anyway...Hahahahahhahahh !!!
Lets see a little history lesson, Betamax vs VHS, Even though Beta was better looking and all around better than VHS, Beta lost because it was too EXPENSIVE sound familiar? Well it seems to me that people havent changed in the last 20 years so i guess HD-DVD is going to be the victor here!
I mean seriously why buy a system that is $500 dollars more when you can buy a system with the same quality as BlueRay? and i dont want to hear any of that.
Well my lameass opinion is that BlueRay has 500,000,000.00 more movies that are Guarenteed to be better than HD-DVD...WELL GUESS WHAT I AM GOING TO GET A $400 HD TV WITH 720P AND A $200 HD-DVD ADD ON FOR MY 360, AND MAYBE EVEN A PS2 BECAUSE FINAL FANTASY ROCKS MY SOCKS, so all of you 360 can go suck some big fat hairy smelly sweaty salty donkey balls!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAAA HAHAHA!!!
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lgndrybn: "Ok... you can't *****ing launch a console if your not doing a worldwide launch"
What?
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Hmmm... the fanboys came out to play. So let me get this straight... you've been b**ching about the price of the PS3 because it has a Blu-Ray drive that you'll 'never use' and you 'don't want a new format for movies' because 'DVD is good enough'.
Fine and dandy, Bill G agrees with you. Of course, he also said this:
"640k ought to be enough for anybody."
- Bill Gates, Microsoft Corporation (1981)
Way to think ahead, Bill.
Now the same people are slamming Sony and Blu-Ray because a movie studio is now supporting the HD-DVD format that their X360 is adopting?
... ... ... ... Fanboys are like vegetarians who eat fish.
Anyways, I never cared about Blu-Ray movies, but it's a nice add-on. I DO care about Blu-Ray in games. Who wouldn't? Why not have the extra space for HD content, uncompressed audio, and redundant data for faster loads? And yes, HD IS the future. If you expect your $500-$600 console to last 5-10 years it had BETTER have HiDef compatibility for down the road.
And as for the HD-DVD add-on for the 360:
If history repeats itself, and we use the PS2 ‘add-on’ Hard Drive as our example, you can’t deny that it will be a failure, ESPECIALLY with fanboys screaming about ‘not wanting a new format’ and the extra cost (see above).
“But at least it’s OPTIONAL” you might say (plus or minus a few curse words and personal attacks). Yeah, the PS2 HDD was ‘optional’, too. And guess what? NO ONE DEVELOPED FOR IT!! IT FAILED! No one develops for ‘optional hardware’ because it’s a damned risky venture. “5-million people have 360s, but out of that only 300,000 have the HD-DVD drive; do we make a game in HD-DVD format?” Developers will ONLY develop for what’s ‘out of the box’.
Bringing this home:
So the 360 HD-DVD player will play movies you don’t want to buy in the first place?
The 360 HD-DVD player will not be able to play games because no one wants to develop for non-standard hardware?
Your the 360 HD-DVD player doubles as a doorstop?
As far as appealing to the ‘gaming audience’, I doubt movie studios will NOT want to make content for Blu-Ray. It was the same way with the PS2’s DVD player: movie companies decided to squeeze a few dollars out of format because it had an established audience, whether the audience liked it or not. If 5-million people eventually buy a PS3 (whenever the f*** it comes out), that’s 5-million people who will say, “I’d might as well check out one Blu-Ray movie, since I already have the player.” I did the same thing when I got my PS2, and so did millions of other people.
Anyways, fanboys can flame me with their 'STFU' comments because I'm siding with Sony on this arguement.
... $H17 7h15 15 4 10n6 p057... =P
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No, because it's not the same thing. The HDD was an add-on related to gaming, the HD-DVD drive is not, it's for movies ONLY.
Also, current HD-DVD drives will not be suitable for 360 games until the transfer speed matches or exceeds that of the DVD 12x in the 360. HD-DVD 1x has 1/3rd the transfer speed, therefore until we see HD-DVD 3x or above, it will not be used for games in the 360. Currently, the only HD-DVD drives on the market are 1x, even in Toshiba's flagship Qosmos G30 laptops.
Hence the HD-DVD add-on will be for movies only and it doesn't need huge sales to be considered a success, since it's an optional extra for 360 gamers, not an add-on for games.
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Which you have to pay for! Why do you think the PS3 is so expensive? The radical casing? or the stolen Spiderman font? Use your brain you idiot, thats why you were given one.
Seriously, think about it. If you don't have a HDTV, what good is a Blu-Ray drive? Size? If Oblivion can fit onto a DVD9 and with compression technology improving all the time, there is no need for Blu-Ray.
At least with HD-DVD you can watch the SD version of a film on your cerrent dvd player!
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I canceled my pre-order. So many lies (hdmi ports, LAUNCH, etc.)
When will you fanboys ever learn? They are kidding you! Just in every kind of way they want to. Go on playing their wh*res. I won't! It's so annoying what they did to gamers!
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http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9708/ps3controllerss2tc9.jpg
i hate noobs ;/
if u look closer the controller, sony did not only steal the Motion Gaming from the Wii. They stole Xbox`s Dashboard button idea.
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- Bill Gates, Microsoft Corporation (1981)"
Except Bill Gates has always denied ever saying that, and no-one has ever been able to say when and where he was suppose to have said it. Usually with quotes, you can name the time and the place the quote was made (look through any book of famous quotes), and yet this one seems to be the exception. Therefore I'll give Bill the benefit of the doubt.
Also, the Blu-ray drive in the PS3 is slower than the DVD drive in the 360, so don't expect load times to be less because of Blu-ray.
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I really like HDTV but I'm not supporting Blueray in reguards to HDTV (but maybe for pcs) becasue IRT & HD-DVD for it pretty much the same reaseon. Quality codec exist to do HDTV now with our currnt gear, we dnt need anter format, it all about $.
MS did a bad thing not supporting divx & xvid out-of-the-box & no HD on every 360, sony lies (like everyone including MS) & makes AS MUCH unreliable hardware as good hardware (monitors & tvs).
Why do you MS & soney people want to support that crap anyway?
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blu-ray prob will dominate the market, but probably largely through the ps3. This isn't saying everyone will own a ps3, because, 1, hd tvs need to be more widely available, and 2, blu ray will prob need faster read speeds than what it currently offers to be a viable alternative to hd.
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Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha!
Of the six major studios, five support BD (Blu-ray Disc) (Warner, Paramount, Fox, Sony, Buena Vista / Disney), while only three support HD DVD (Warner, Paramount, Universal). Of the five supporting BD, three do so exclusively (Fox, Sony, Buena Vista). Of the three supporting HD DVD, only one does so exclusively (Universal).
And guess what? None of this is new! It's been this way for a year!
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