if this happens i might not get a ps3. yay

this Rumor is not true,some itches trying to make new rumors out of UNRELIABLE,NO NAME websites. called noooz.com



but who cares...

ITS NOT TRUE,by the time the MGS is released(late 2007 or early 2008),we're allready having MORE PS3 consoles available on the market.



this rumor is completely BS





anyways..

the chances of metal gear solid 4 coming to xbox360 is 0.0000001% have fun waiting hahah.



and plus i dont think a DVD would fit the game.

FAKE

360 fan's want this game so much but it s not coming out on 360!!!!! its going to stay a ps3 excluive kojima said only for ps3, sony said only ps3, back in e3 05, kojima said it will be only for ps3, and pulse why would they downgrade the game to put it on 360,it can't run on 360, sorry mgs4 will remain a ps3 game only, and halo will stay on 360,.

wasn't this rumor denied already. Kojima said there are stuff they cant put in th 360, like the sixaxis motion stuff. This is old.Sister site Xbox 360 Fanboy and Xboxic have been following the story. Turns out that Che Chou, who is identified as an ex-1UP staffer says, "It's simply a rumor that Konami higher-ups are pressuring Kojima Productions to consider making MGS4 a multiplatform game because production costs on the game are unsurprisingly high and only getting higher ... Whatever the case, I highly doubt it's going to happen so quit building yourself a disappointing kiloton bomb."



We've contacted Konami's PR department and they said, "Metal Gear 4 [sic] is a PS3 title." Doesn't seem like EGM made a deal to get some exclusive info, but instead took a rumor, slapped a question mark on it, and hoped to build hype and sell magazines. Hey, we don't fault them, check out our headline above! Maybe the info is worth the price of the magazine? The rest of the cover info is snore inducing and has already been covered to death. The Halo 3 info was already leaked, but EGM says no, no, wait -- we have more info not leaked, please buy us.

This is OLD rumor which was brought back by noooz (wtf is that site?). It started with 1up podcast a long time ago. Also, this was pretty much "killed" too.

Didn't think of that. The necessity of chopping the game up the work on multiple dvds would mean that the port would take alot of effort. That considered, the detail abot the game coming a month after makes the whole thing reek of BS.

Well that's funny, because Greg Richards over at PR corporate says that Metal Gear 4 will begin development for X360 in the coming months.

It will fit on one dvd with compression, I garuntee it. considering all the cut scenes will be in-game and mgs3 only took up 3gb, there is no reason why this should take another 6gb. if oblivion takes only 5gb then this should only be 4 or 5.

you ps3 fanboys make me laugh. trying to make sense



on how its "impossible to come to xbox360" " no! this



cant be true!!!!". you bunch crack me up. "It cant fit on



the 360" (blue dragon was 3 discs 20gig un-rared).



and when it comes to 360 it will look and play better



than the ps3 version(compare on both systems call of



dut 3, john madden , fight night 3 etc.......)



hey dave exclusive six-axis ps3 controller.....who gives a



****** , i will take rumble over 100-axis of gimmickery.



I was smiling reading this whole article saying in my



mind SUCKED IN!!!!!!!! PS3 IS GETTING OWNED AND



BOUGHT.





ps3 = no more exclusives. ha ha ha.

MGS4 won't appear on 360...



With SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, HD audio... what possible 360 version would have that?... NONE! period... i own a 360 and MGS4 would suck balls on it...Period.



This game was built on Cell arcitecture... the Audio is enough to make the 360 squeel. It'll probably show up as a mellowed down port with some stupid extras like it did on the Xbox .. but nothing compares to the original.



As an avid MGS fan - no MGS is 'MGS' if it's not on a Playstation... The end.

If this happens Sony will suck big time in my eyes. They better do something about it. Pay Konami a lot of money just to prevent that from happening. I mean, what´s the meaning of buying a PS3 if Metal *****ing Gear Solid is released on Xbox 360 a month later?!!?! First Capcom wants to release Resident Evil 5 on the Xbox and now this... That said I don´t believe that will happen. Won´t suprise me if someone from Microsoft started that rumor.

are you Cecil from TAO?

SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, WTF???



"With SIXAXIS support and PSP connectivity, HD audio"



What are you going to use SIXAXIS for in this game? This game is better off using analog sticks.



"i own a 360 and MGS4 would suck balls on it...Period."



Why did you have to lie to justify your point? You don't own a 360.



"This game was built on Cell arcitecture... the Audio is enough to make the 360 squeel. It'll probably show up as a mellowed down port with some stupid extras like it did on the Xbox .. but nothing compares to the original."



The 360 has a better GPU and maybe better than the PS3 version in some areas, but others PS3 maybe better. Developers have already said both systems have their strong points.



"As an avid MGS fan - no MGS is 'MGS' if it's not on a Playstation... The end."



Well it's going to be on the Playstation numb nuts! How does it affect you if it's on the 360 also?

ugh......well....



I just Hope that Mr.Common Sense Doesnt show Up Also...i cant waste time correcting the Fasle information that they are Going to Spread.



Well.....if you consider Call of Duty 3 On Wii Is a satifying Port Compared to the other 2.....then you will probably be satisfied with MGS4 on The Xbox360...if it happens.



The Idea is not that MGS4 cant be ported.....the idea is that it will be [Inferior].....but if you like Cod3 on Wii....you,l be just fine.



P.S:i hope [spector]shows up.....cant stay here forever....oh well.

right.. just like the chances that the other metal gears would go to the original Xbox,.. oh and how about GTA?



and Resident evil 4 to PS2 ....



its gonna happen. it has been proven that nothing really is very exclusive anymore and that pretty much is the same for this series.



it may not be out a month later.. but dont doubt that this company is faithful to just sony.. cause they arent.

Obviously you still think the gaming side of the PS3 is way more advanced than the 360, I and hundreds of thousands of people disagree. Developers have already confirmed they are about even, both have their strong points and weak points. The 360 is ahead at the moment because of the difficultly developing to the cell processor.



The point i was getting at with the Call of Duty 3 example was that any game can be ported. Especially between the PS3 and 360, the systems are very close in terms of graphics and power, so ports between the 2 systems will always be close in comparison. There is already quite a few cross platform games between the 360 and PS3 that perform about the same. 360 is winning the cross platform war at the moment though but nothing to cry about if you a PS3 owner.



Saying that this can't be ported to the 360 is just plain false. You have been corrected :)



I'm sure spector is too busy watching his BlueRay movie(s) to backup your false statements.

I have read all the sites comparisons between XBOX 360 and Ps3 and it looks like the X360 and Ps3 will almost be graphically the same but the X360 has more memory horsepower making games run smooth but the Ps3 games will suffer from slowdown, choppiness and poor framerate. This is great news for MGS4 and now we know who the new King of gaming machines is (besides Nintendo) - I see this pattern with all developers realizing the potential of moving to the X360! Good times are here again!!

The PS3 is not getting owned.

Even the basic PS3 outdoes the premium 360 feature wise.



Learn English, then come back and structure your argument a bit more competently.

Exactly how is it original at all? I am not say the first MGS wasn't but MGS4? Get over it, its a sequel with a few gameplay changes and additions just like all sequels. As far as originality goes, how about the following games:



Kameo

Dead Rising

Viva Pinata

Rockstars Table Tennis

Outpost Kaloki X

Condemned

Cloning Clyde

Prey

Hexic

RoboBlitz

Just Cause

TotemBall

Oblivion

Assault Heroes

Gears of War

Blue Dragon



Comming 07:



Metronome

BioShock

Mass Effect

Trusty Bell

Lost Planet

Army of Two

Possesion

The Darkness

Dark Sector

Huxley

Alan Wake

Assasins Creed





Those are just a few of many. (I realize they are not all exclusive)

If you would do some research QJ before posting an article you would see that the poster of that crap is an avid Sony basher. There is NO, i repeat, NO bases for believing this guys whatsoever, especially with his supposed deep background sources. -.-

yeah yeah compression BS



M$ said blu ray is not needed,while the new rpg games takes 3 DVDs,again i said THREE DVDs!!



if dev can compress then why BLUE DRAGON takes 3 DVDs??!!



stop jokin!!FANBOYS!



MGS4 is not coming to XBOX360.



because porting MGS2 to xbox and gamecube is a failure.so now kojima wont do porting.



and plus hideo said he doesnt like porting,if they wanna make games,they will make a new one.

there has been some debate about the ram performance for Both....some say that the xbox360 has more available ram.....but is that true..???



Yes it is true....the xbox360 has about [24mb-30mb]more free available ram than ps3...BUT...



that do not mean...in the overall performance...will have better ram utilization and performance.

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the ps3 has a main advantage above xbox360....one that wont be evident until exclucive games with talented developers appear....that advantage is not just the fact that ps3 has XDR ram running at 3.2Ghz..[which will give it an incredible boost in performance]...but the also the advantage is....



the ability to stream[load] data [IN-GAME] from 2 different places....one is direct-loading from the disc....the other is loading from the HD..[notice the in-game word]



i am not talkin here loading from between-game events....like loading from menu to gameplay....or loading from one-level to another level.



i am talking about streaming data loading during gameplay.....like when you travel in GTA3..from one street to another...one is erased from the ram..then the other.....[in real-time] starts loading....so if you take the disc off...and try walking....youl see that the next area hasnt loaded yet.

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it is here that the ps3 will benefit....the developers...knowing that every ps3 has a hardisk...will be able to develope games that stream data from.[BOTH THE DISC AND HDD]....so that loading of the in-game segments i mentioned above would be greatly reduced....but what does that mean..??



it means that developers.....rather than distributing the 512ram on..say....128x128 size area....they can devide it into 2 64x64 areas....each taking 512ram....and since they have very fast loading through 2 different streams...you wont notice the loading....and thus...rather than using 512mb ram for 128x128....they can use it for 2 64x64 areas...doubling the performance.

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but how is that different from the xbox360..??..the xbox360 and because of the mistake microsoft made in [not including an hdd in every unit]....means that developers wont be able to develop games that utilize 2 data streams...and that means the xbox360 will have far longer loading in IN-GAME segments...so deviding areas to utilize ram will be much harder for them...since games will only use the disc for loading...[THEY-CANNOT-DEVELOP-GAMES-THAT-LOADS-DATA-FROM-THE-HDD-ALSO-BECAUSE-THAT-MEANS-CORE-SYSTEM-OWNERS-WONT-BE-ABLE-TO-PLAY IT]...



its important to know that there is a difference between developing a game to load from 2 different streams....and a game that uses the hdd to cache data as an option like oblivion in xbox360....[oblivion on xbox360 offered the option of caching data to the hdd to decrease the load time in between-game segments....like when entering a city or opening meny...etc.]....and that is different from developnig a game that uses 2 different streams to load IN-GAME segments.

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to make this short.....that means that developers on the ps3 will be able to have much better ram utilization by designing games that uses the hdd as another loading stream...and as a virtual ram.....notice that this will only be done on exclusive games....dont expect this to happen in multi-platform games.....because the xbox360 cannot utilize this multi-stream loading technique since it lacks an hdd on every unit....also the fact that the ps3 has a 3.2Ghz ram will erase any bottlenecks that may happen.

I won't get a PS3, it's about 1500 USD retail (no ebay) and NO ONe will go and buy that, if it was 600 like in the US I'd think about it but 1500??? Who the ***** thought about that? ***** that



This and DMC4 were the only things that made me want a PS3, and both of them might get ports? Hellz yeah for me

it is off-topic.....but the MGS4 on Xbox360 isnt quite an interesting...so i posted something different.



the post above is a simple example on how devlopers...through certain developing techniques like the one multiple-data streaming technique i mentioned above....will greatly improve performance.



loading from hdd is far faster than disc loading....the xbox360 cannot compete with disc load alone...even though its dvd drive...is faster than the ps3 blu-ray drive.



its microsofts fault.....for not including an hdd in every unit.....now the best that developers can do is make a game that is engeniered to load from the disc only....and gives you an option to cash data to the hdd.[if you have the premium version]...thus only improving loading in Between-game segmets...[menu to game...level to another level..etc]



well....i wish i could help you..but..well....:D



P.S: you will see updates versions of the post above from time to time.....(and it wont be considered spamming)

When the end of 2007 comes, hopefully you xbox d!ckfaces will stop coming to look up rumors and bring crap back in. 1500 USD retail? Its 500 for the basic version, 600 for the premium, are you too blind to see that and by 2007 its most likely many shipments are gona come and we can just go into a store and pick one up and the price will have a chance to lower.

Kojima said it probably wouldn't come to the XBOX 360 because the processors are very different, not because the PS3 is more powerful. Didn't you hear, the XBOX 360 has a more powerful and versatile processor anyway. It will come to the XBOX 360 because there aren't enough PS3s around to make much of a profit. With it coming to XBOX 360, it will have up over 10 million perspective buyers vs. like 1 million.

i love mgs and i hope it comes to 360, 360 owns the ps3 its more powerfull, better and cheaper and its already out no way will i be buyin a ps3 bought my 360 yesterday and love it already the only good thing about the ps3 is that it has a 60gig hard drive but in reality nobody will ever use all that up so the 360's 20 gig hard drive is more than enough i would never spend over 500 quid on a ps3 it just isnt worth it when you compare it to the 360

I would buy it for the 360... But Im not going to buy a ps3 for just one game.

Dude even the psp has sold more units than the 360 and both of them were released like 8 months between each other, and lets not talk about the ds and ps2. So yeah the 360 is the king.

you have no idea what you are talking about

The 360 people dont seem to realize how it is for the PS3 people. I wouldnt be telling PS3 people to stop *****ing, because you'd all be doing the same thing in the event which Halo 3 was announced for the PS3 XD

You also have to remember that the XBOX has very little fanbase in japan; for god sakes, the PS3 has already outsold the 360 over there. Being a Japanese developer, do you really think that Kojima would make a game for a system that is failing in their country?

so if bigger isnt bettert, i suppose there was no need for dvds, as cds were more than enough??

Think Before you talk



also, hasnt this been debunked about 9milliom times?

help to beat 360 will be an improved socomII on ps3.

First off, you fanboys of any console are losers. Competition is good, it means we all get a choice and more quality titles are released for everyone. If you care about the gaming community you should hope all 3 consoles succeed. Now stop *****ing.



As for MGS 4, i hope it comes out on 360 as i have one already and it will save me £450 (cost of ps3) when it comes out over here (uk) as this, at the moment is the only reason i would consider owning both consoles.

"do you really think that Kojima would make a game for a system that is failing in their country"



Since when is Japan the only market? This game will sell MORE copies outside of Japan than in Japan.

It seems that every month QJ starts about MGS4 coming out for 360. Like Kojima said before, MGS will not come to any other system beside Playstation. They tried bringing the substance version of MGS2 but that just didn't work out, and people didn't buy it. Think about it: Playstation and MGS are like Boyfriends and Girlfriends. Would you want to give your girlfriend away to someone else, in this case Xbox360?

you DO know that mgs 2 was on the xbox also. right?

how bout the 360 fanboys AND the ps3 fanboys stfu, how come people who own Wiis actually respect the other consoles. ps3 owners always bash the 360 for being less powerful. define powerful my friend, for they both have different attributes. the ps3 can handle more things on screen, while the 360 is more into the graphics.

you see me bashing anyone? no, and all of a sudden a RUMOR pops up and now you have to defend your console, making the others look inferior just so you can feel better about your choice. S.T.F.U

Cool possibly Resident Evil 5, MGS4 and a Final Fantasy title will have me set on getting myself a 360

"Kojima has stated countless times that he HATES multi-platform development"



I love how 'facts' become distorted to make a point. What next, someone saying Kojima would rather shot himself than being forced into multi-platform developement? ;)



Kojima never said he hates it. Like most developers, he would rather focus on creating games for just one.



As someone pointed out earlier, the evidence is mounting for MGS4 on the 360.



We'll see.

>"also i don't see how they'll fit mgs4 on a dual-layer dvd... 9.4 gigs isn't enough for a mgs game of that magnitude... "



What about 2 disks, or even 3? What about waiting until we know more about the game first? What about waiting for a possible 360 announcement before jumping to conclusions.



>"Insomniac stated that it only uses 25% of the ps3's true power, + if the graphics are THAT realistic with 25%, then 50-75% will blow away anything 360 throws at it.."



This is really dumb logic. Sorry but it's true. Do you know the percentage used by 360 games? No? So how can you make a comparison.



These kind of percentage statements for games have ALWAYS been and always will be rubbish. It's the same crap I read year after year last gen with people coming up with percentages on much a game was pushing a console and using that to argue which was better or how much better games will get in future. Please cut it out, it's BS. :|

u ass hoole ps2 had wrser grafics than xbox that is why theyy ported to xbox look its the basic prinsiple of life



were there is more--- you move to were there is leess



in console terms porting something with cheep grafics is easier to somthein that runs better that is why u cant port pC game on N64 u RETARD

If it does all chances of me buying a PS3 are down the drain.

why do you keep comming up with that crap about the weak60 being equal to the ps3, wake up and smell r3ality its way 360 is so last gen let me ask you something do you know the ps3 is a supercomputer i bet not but weak60 is nothing more than a 2005 pc thats it yes you may be right on your little paper it may seem to such medicore computer minds that the weak60 is equal to the ps3 but the real tech people will tell you the same just as in e3 05 ps3 will only be equal to weak60 if you have weak60(2)+somet hing else also did you know weak60 has already been maxed out, well it has with gears of war i really feel sorry for you that believe the graphics on the weak60 will even increase over gears of war it won't and i have proof number 1 why isn't microsoft making a second gears of war, i'll tell you why there would be little or no difference in the graphics, oh an one more thing why in the world do you think that sony would make a system only equivalent to the weak60 think the japanese have always been smarter than the americans now think these are geniouses and sony and toshiba and nividia have been working on this genious invention for what 6 years think geniouses working on one piece of technology for six years better yet japanese geniouses before the developers really learn the way sony intended for this genious supercomputer to work the developers will have to begin thinking like geniouses you still are saying the graphic chip isn't as powerful as weak60 we will see because there is alot more that meets the eye than just the specs of the sony ps3 think sony purposely downgraded the cell processor that was originally 3.8 ghz i believe down to 3.2 ghz just to prove how much advanced there minds are than that of microsoft but you still don't get the reason that this ps3 doesn't have a graphical limit when the developers really begin to figure out the way that sony's genious minds constructed this supercomputer there will be an increasing gap in the graphics of ps3 and weak60 you can count on it and one more reason that the ps3 has already left 360 in the dust is that while you may say 360 has the best graphical game not quite there are launch games that are on the ps3 that are only possible on the ps3 infact all of them, and one more bumber do you know that guerilla games is already working on killzone 2 now you may say many games haven't delivered yeah you may be right but they arent even scratching the power of the ps3 yet but lets reinerate the killzone 2 thingy guerilla games thereselves have stated that some aspects of killzone 2 has already surpassed the trailer and they won't show it again until it exceeds the players expectations saying that only means that this man knows that the ps3 is capable of graphics that will even make a jump past the killzone 2 trailer bet your life and just to let you know that the ps3 is capable of the game and more at the e3 05 gameshow the games weren't real time but, they were to ps3 spec, wait and at the time it was only a prototype graphic chip not the fully powered rsx for those of you that really believe that the weak60's graphic chip is superior, if at that time the incomplete graphic chip was able to yield graphics at that level running at only 70% of the ps3 power who knows what other graphics this supercomputer is capable of delivering, also do you not know that a supercomputer is what makes movies like finding nemo, and shark tale and even those as lifelike as the newest final fantasy movie now back to the reason that the weak60 is maxed out reason 2 why did bill gates say that the weak60 was built for gears of war and reason 3 the makers of gears of war were native to microsoft yes microsoft studios and who better to know microsofts hardware than microsoft itself and also look how long they have been working on gears of war about 2003-2004 in all acounts the game outta look alot better than that but its alright reason 4 why was this game released right around the launch of the ps3 because they knew at the start of the ps3's life cycle many developers wouldn't kno

XBOX360 FU**! ME!

PS3 ROCKS!

XBOX360 is FOR BI**HES!

Bill gates vs ken kutaragi.....

BILL GATES IS GAY!

The xbox 360 decompresses data onto (it's 512 Megabyte of ram) from the dvd disk during load times, no matter how much storage you have on a disk wether it's 8 gigs or 50 gigs you play the game bit by bit through RAM. Both the playstation 3 and the xbox 360 has 512 mb of ram.

Even the basic PS3 outdoes the premium 360 feature wise. WRONG, the only thing the basic ps3 has on the premium xbox 360 is blu-ray which does not apply to games, the basic playstation 3 does not have wi-fi or the slots for the sd cards or memory sticks, and CeCiL the cell is nothing special, in fact the Xbox 360s cpu has the same technology as the playstation 3 cpu Ibm is the making the cpus for both systems the cell arcithecture is patented by sony not the technology and the 3 cpus in the xbox 360 combined is 3 times faster than the cell cpu in the playstation 3.

japanese rpgs only because of fmv just like playstation one, metal gear does not use fmv, neither will gran theft auto 4, 360 pawns ps3 lol

longer load times did not stop playstation one from pawning the competition the 360 pawns again sorry. lol

that is what i am saying people don't realize that the playstation 3 is more expensive not because it is more powerful than the xbox 360 it is more expensive but because of that bluray drive.

so metal gear 4 will be the last metal gear game, so what, future games from konami will be better.

please do some research about what compression is and how it will work in the xbox 360 before you talk, thank you it would be appreciated.

Resident evil 5 is already confirmed, metal gear i believe will come a couple months after, and final fantasy maybe anounced for xbox 360 next year seeing that square is creating the white engine a multiplatform game engine.

stop you are embarassing your self Kijoma said he wished the sixaxis had rumble. LOL

I -will- buy Metal Gear Solid 4 : GotP for XBOX 360. And Castlevania : SotN. And Katamari XBLA.



Bring them, Konami... 360 owners will buy!



-V



Capcom, Namco and Square... please follow suit.

the best PS3 game on my Xbox 360 YAY !!!!!!!! best news ever

It really is! :|

No really, your point is? What is motion sensing offering which cannot be duplicated with analog sticks and buttons? The answer is nothing.



If you think MGS4 is going to be a game which depends mostly on motion-sensing for it's control, then think again.

ugghh...



the white engine is deisgined specificly to use no less than 4 of the cell processors SPU....meaning the game engine is built entirely on the cell archticuture....god...where do people bring their info from.??



S.P:check the wikepidia on the white engine

What do you think the SPUs are, artificial intelligence units? They are simply arithmetic units, that's all. Hence the White Engine can just as easily run on the 360, in the same way that EPICs Unreal Engine 3 runs on 360 AND PS3 with optimisations for each.



I don't expect Final Fantasy on the 360, so I don't expect a need for the White Engine to be proted to the console, but just the same, please stop acting as if Cell is alien technology stolen from Area 51. :|

Sam Fisher > Solid Snake



The ps2 versions of the Splinter cell games were horrible so I guess that's why sony people still think MGS is a decent game. Its a good story, but the gameplay is crap compaired to splinter cell.

I think it shouldn't be on the xbox 360 even if I have it, I also have the ps3, but anyway it shouldn't because ps2 is famous because of metal gear. If it comes out for the xbox 360, all hope is going to be gone even if final fanasty 13 comes out. do you the ps3 is going to win the next gen-war.

Why not eh? VF5 is coming to 360, someone else reported that Res Evil 5 is coming to 360.



Sony's arrogance is finally biting them in the but.



Maybe cause the PS2 was sooooooo successful, they felt they didn't have to try so hard to make sure titles were PS3 exclusives.



It's good these games come out on multiple systems, I'm showing no favoritisms, even though I have a PS3.

Apparently the President of Sony was fired mainly because he let too many exclusive games slip to Wii and Xbox360 releases, hopefully the new guy can prevent key games like Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, and Killzone from going to Xbox.



Luckily with some Japanese gaming companies like Square-Enix and Konami, theres a huge Sony loyalty going on... also you can expect these games will be very advanced and take full use of the PS3's technology, so it will be something the Xbox won't even be able to handle.

I don't think you said one thing that was correct in that entire 2,000 word pile of crap you just posted. "Do you know the PS3 is a supercomputer" ROFL !!! It is idiots like you that make Sony what it is today.

Come on, Kevin, you make Playstation users look bad. Wall of worthless text crits me for 500 damage.