Metal Gear Solid 4 'Demo' gameplay video

Posted Jul 24, 2007 at 9:06AM by QJ Staff Listed in: PS3 Tags: Hideo Kojima
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Courtesy of GameVideos, here's the video Metal Gear Solid fans have been waiting for (yours truly included) - the actual gameplay video of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, with none other than Hideo Kojima providing a blow-by-blow account as the next-gen glory plays out on the small screen. We give you the juiciest tidbits on Old Snake's last adventure.

Looking at the video, Snake may be past his prime, but he's definitely learned some new tricks that only experience (as well as some new toys) can teach. For instance, adaptive camouflage that lets Snake blend in to any surface he's pressed on, as well as new CQC maneuvers to knock soldiers unconscious. This might be Snake's last hurrah in the field, but he's definitely armed and ready to take anything on. Oh, and watch out for the Drum Can!

Enough spoilers from us, enjoy the video!



 
 
 

Comments [refresh]

by dudp - 2007-07-24 04:28
» lol

game looks awsome, but snake does alot of crotch grabbing





FIRST OMGES !!!!w111

by WOW - 2007-07-24 04:44
» ooooo'weee

That was just tranquilizing! :)

by blank - 2007-07-24 05:21
» out of nowhere

i loved how he pulled the rpg out of nowhere. but other than that it looks alright, better than the previous instalments

by Ichigo - 2007-07-24 05:25
» Wow

Outstanding Im buying that Game

by icedrag0n - 2007-07-24 05:26
» awesome game

may be even better than killzone 2

by eat me - 2007-07-24 06:27
» uh oh!!!!1111oneoneonetwo

and here come the xbox fantards.....



wait for it....wait for it..

by xbox fantard - 2007-07-24 06:35
» xbox fantard

uh.. yeah.. i got nothin.

by jgdasd - 2007-07-24 06:43
» Game play

The game play looks outstanding, but I hope there's an option to turn off sixaxis aiming though, that could end up being very frustrating if your in a heavy battle or something.

by senjutsu - 2007-07-24 06:57
» looking so INTENSE

we can feel the tension in the air, too bad we can't "feel" it with rumble. Still, the motion sensors will be really usefull in the game, it's looking awesome. I loved the others, but this one will be really different, this time you have to think FAST, and ACT a lot



I'll buy this game the day it's on shelves! count on me!

by 666 - 2007-07-24 07:00
» 666

MGS OWNS ALL!

by !@# - 2007-07-24 07:25
» damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dat ***** wuz sick ...#1 game ........funny part when snake takes out that magazine with da gurls....lol

by M$ - 2007-07-24 07:27
» m$

X*****360 = owned

by Billy - 2007-07-24 07:29
» Gamer

Cant wait to play it on 360, it will prolly run better too.

by !!! - 2007-07-24 07:43
» ROFL

ROFL COMMENT ON TOP OF ME

by Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-24 08:16
» Indeed

Indeed it will Bill Gates can offer Kojima 50mil to do the Job. 50mil? Kojima can retire at the age of 40 with that kind of money.

by ... - 2007-07-24 08:25
» Sigh...

1. Playstation 3 exclusive

2. PS3 exclusive

3. PlayStation3 exclusive

by ^_^ - 2007-07-24 08:30
» Awesome

Thank you Kojima-san~ Looks like 2008 is gonna be a great year. ^_^



Ps. That first CQC choking move is a kinda weird way of chokin someone don't u think?

by furious - 2007-07-24 08:50
» wow!!!

looks awsome...preordering around christmas, will be the best game on ps3 along with assasins creed and gt 5!

by rty - 2007-07-24 09:07
» FOOL

First xbox 360 comment + from non 360 owner above ,what a fool.

by tyuty - 2007-07-24 09:10
» NOT WOW YET

What you preorder games just by watching game video trailers !!!, take some advice wait until you get playable demos of all the titles you THINK may live up to the hype because you could be a lot out of pocket if they are crap like many games have been up until now after all their hype..

by . - 2007-07-24 09:16
» .

nah it will take a lot more than 50 mil to buy a man like Hideo Kojima. I think if Bill Gates were to approach him with that kind of money he would just be offended by that sort of thing. Anyway I can't wait to play Ninja Gaiden 2 on my PS3.

by Jordan - 2007-07-24 09:22
» 50 million offer

This was already made, Konami wanted Hideo to do so..Hideo said no without even asking Konami..know why? It's his game, hes in charge, and Kojima productions has put way more money into MGS4 then Konami, all Konami does is like built up hype and ship it to the retailers so ummm sorry mister common sense but your going to miss out on the best game of all time because you like to polish bill gates's butt crack

by me - 2007-07-24 09:44
» tyuty

is a piece of *****

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 10:33
» ^Yep

There's always one.

by random_guy - 2007-07-24 11:06
» WOW

Wow its so amzin that the video doesn't work!

by random_guy - 2007-07-24 11:09
» Billy WTF noob

it will not be on 360, ps3 exclusive

it would not run better on 360 as ps3 has much better processing power and also not enough storage on a HD-DVD

and your a complete noob now ***** off

by random_guy - 2007-07-24 11:11
» me

agreed

by DEATH - 2007-07-24 11:21
» The whole sites

DEAD for now... Another server dies..

by AoxomamoxoA - 2007-07-24 11:30
» lol best game of all time hahahaha

He will still get to play the best game of all time, Halo 3 isnt going anywhere. This is just the best game the gaystation has to offer, which isnt really saying much in the bigger scheme of things. Thats like saying ____ is the best anime, when no one cares about anime, its the same thing with ps3. Besides, once the 360 version hits ps3 will be ancient history

by AoxomamoxoA - 2007-07-24 11:36
» MGS4 will be on 360

Of course it will run better, just like every other port game. You wont get those washed out colors or framerate issues youll get with the ps3. No installing a game before you can play it, and youll even have rumble!



lol, remember when DMC4 went multiplat and how all the sony fans threw fits? Its gonna be like 10 times better when they announce this game going multiplat!! Im sure they will all start petitions again and refuse to buy their only good game for their system just to teach Konami a lesson, when in reality it will just show Konami that they can sell more on 360 and oops there goes all other Konami games. I cant friggin wait to come here after its announced just to hear these kids cry, oh man its gonna be great!

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 11:37
» Looks good

I downloaded the HD version from gametrailers.com.



Looks good, not spectacularly good, but still very good. The graphics have been toned down since it's first realtime showing (noticeable in the cutscene too, including the hair), but it's MGS and fans will lap it up. I don't think it will convert those who didn't like the previous games in the series, but it's a must have for MGS fans. :)

by Ichigo - 2007-07-24 11:39
» 50 mil...

yeah right .....

is Ps3 exclusive why you want it so much in 360 and of course the FFXIII trailer is still awesome

by Oh noes - 2007-07-24 11:40
» He's back

AoxomamoxoA is back. Hide your children or he'll eat them!!!

by LOL - 2007-07-24 11:44
» LOL

HALO isnt even considered a good fps by PC standards



Try CS:S, CoD, Doom, Quake



Talk about a hyped up game.....



Oh yea Xbox lost Gears Of War to pc (which will include extra missons and enemies)



So the only xbox game is............Halo.............woot.....(sarcasm)

by Seoulfood - 2007-07-24 11:49
» wow friend

^ someone needs to get you a gal. You get your jollies off on some strange stuff.

by Geez - 2007-07-24 11:50
» AoxomamoxoA get a life

Go play your 360 and stop trolling the PS3 section cos you have nothing else better to do... Its not comin for 360 yet so stop spouting rubbish like some relative of Oscar the Grouch.

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 12:01
» Actually

Upon release (November 2001), Halo was as good as any PC FPS, and better in many ways. Until Halo, no FPS had seamless intergration of indoor and outdoor environments, together with land and air vehicles (with great driving/flight dynamics), advance physics and superb AI (even better than Half-Life). Which PC FPS provided all of this when Halo was released? The answer, none, they all offered subsets of that list. Since Halo, many games have offered all of this, and we expect much of this in today's FPSs, but Halo was the first to provide such a seamlessly integrated gaming world in a FPS.



Also, the PC isn't a console, so games going to PC are not an issue (just as UT3 on the PC is not a problem for the PS3 version).

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 12:13
» Oh and...

...can we get back to MGS4 now. :)

by WTF - 2007-07-24 12:21
» WTF??

am i the only one who cant see the friggin video!?!?!??!

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 12:24
» Go here instead

http://www.gametrailers.com/

by ^ - 2007-07-24 12:37
»

I can't see it either.

by andrewsqual - 2007-07-24 12:55
» Duhhh AoxomamoxoA

You are a dummy. The reason rumble is coming to PS3 now is because Kojima demanded it. Of course there will be rumble in it. The latest version of GT HD has rumble in it. Did you not watch the part where Kojima said it wasn't going to the 360. Do you really think they can fit 15 hours of HD quality cinema on a dvd??????? Buzzzzz wrong.

by andrewsqual - 2007-07-24 12:58
» HAHAHAHA

Yeah and when it does all 360s in the world will have gotton the red rings by then. HAHAHAHA. Oh and to "Oh noes" AoxomamoxoA doesn't eat your children he rapes them.

by 5678-Jump - 2007-07-24 13:01
» Thanks 'The one'

It works on gametrailers guys

by actually - 2007-07-24 13:31
» halo is on pc too

I own both halo and halo 2 for pc.

by 56 - 2007-07-24 13:44
» wty4q35

Why does AoxomamoxoA want it to go multiplatform when he supposedly owns a PS3 as well. Besides we all know you and every other Xbot in the world could care less about this game. I find it hilarious when an Xbot says "I want games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted Drake's Fortune and MGS4 to go multiplatform because all I have is a 360" And that's the problem right there. You want to play MGS4 but you don't have the right console for it. Then when you realize you bought the wrong console you throw little fits like this on the internet. It's this simple people, you want to play Halo you buy a 360 if you want to play Metal Gear you buy a PS3 is as simple as that.

by John - 2007-07-24 13:59
» MG4

Looks fantastic! This is what next gen is all about! A big WOW to the Metal Gear team. This is going to be a fun game to play. Being the last Metal Gear game it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

by Oh noes again!~ - 2007-07-24 14:10
» REALLY!?

I was referring to him being a troll - hence the eat children/billy goats stuff...



A troll raping children is a bit OTT for me, but maybe not for AoxomamoxoA... He disgusts me he does...

by Folding Junkie! - 2007-07-24 16:10
» AoxomamoxoA!

You are amazing! Nothing that you have said all day has been worth reading but you continue to go downhill!



If you and your buddy MCS really want to prove to us how much better the 360 is than the PS3 you could show us by actually playing with it instead of hanging out on PS3 forums all day long badmouthing Sony and their console while worshiping the ground that Bill Gates walks on and hyping up his console!



Have you ever noticed how many XBOT's want MGS to come to the 360 and how few Playstation owners are crying for Halo 3 to come to the PS3? That alone should tell you enough about the difference between Halo and MGS.



If Halo 3 was the best game ever don't you think that more "fantards" would be clamoring for it to also go multi-platform? Chew on that and tell me what you think!



BTW, any game specifically coded for the PS3 from the beginning of it's production until it hit the shelves will NOT run better on the 360 and vice versa. That is not a fanboy statement that is a fact!

by Yay - 2007-07-24 16:47
» He's back!~ And he's not AoxomamoxoA

Welcome back Foldin Junkie~

by nastradamus - 2007-07-24 17:00
» ...

i never heard him say anything about sixaxis aiming. i did hear him say that you can LEAN using the sixaxis while in first person view.

by fds - 2007-07-24 17:07
» demo vid

u can download it here if it is not working

http://www.ps3hax.net/index.php?topic=1034.msg11379648#new



looks really nice!

by nastradamus - 2007-07-24 17:13
» *saving AoxomamoxoA post*

so i can throw it in his fantarded face on MGS4's release day.

by Chuck Norris - 2007-07-24 18:16
» niccce

it's just another case of xbox 360 owners wanting ps3 games. they can't have mgs4 so they spread rumours of it coming to 360, they can only hope. but in the end, not even hope will save them. if i want to play halo 3 (hahahahaha yeah right) i'd go out and get a frikn 360 and not talk ***** about it coming to the ps3.



how many 360 games can be done on the ps3? ALL! how many ps3 games can be done on 360? LOL

by Seoulfood - 2007-07-24 18:29
» hmm

Well, the only reason so many 360 owners assume it'll come out on the 360 is because they want it so much. But you can go to Kotaku and read that Sony actually cut a deal with Konami to make sure it was exclusive. Because up till a little before E3, the exclusivity was actually up in the air(360 version was a possibility). But I guess that's all changed. If you guys have so much time to make inflammatory remarks about a stupid videogame system, go spend that time working and earning money instead. Then you can buy any games/systems you want. Stop asking your mom's to buy you games.

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 18:38
» Well duh! :)

Yes I know Halo is on the PC as well, but it arrived 2 YEARS after the XBox version, and Halo 2 took 2.5 years to arrive on the PC (Vista only). 2 years is a long time in gaming, so of course it's going to suffer compared to PC FPS at the time of release, but that doesn't change what Halo did for FPSs upon it's release in 2001.



Anyway, given the previous games, I guess we could look forward to Halo 3 on the PC in about 2009/2010. ;)



Now...back to MGS4

by Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-24 18:43
» Thats ok

This is all you have compared to Halo 3,Mass Effect,Bioshock ,Too Human,and more.



What do you guys have as an exclusive. Drake's Fortune. Sounds like crap and a rip-off of some game. and no online? this is next gen. Heveanly sword is another ripoff of God of War.

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 18:46
» But...

"But you can go to Kotaku and read that Sony actually cut a deal with Konami to make sure it was exclusive."



Is there anything said there to say whether it's a TIMED exclusive or not? I don't believe so. It's exclusive to the PS3 for now. If they went ahead and said it's a timed exclusive, then that would automatically tell us that other versions are in the works! Therefore until any other announcements are made, they will keep insisting that it's a PS3 exclusive.



Hence nothing has really changed since E3 regarding the possibility of MGS4 on the 360. We'll just have to wait and see.

by mr toasty - 2007-07-24 18:48
» uh

UT and Quake 3 have inside/outside levels :)

by Watch the video again - 2007-07-24 18:52
» There is 6-axis aiming

The sixaxis aiming bits are in first person view.

by Jambo777 - 2007-07-24 18:52
» @ Mr common sence

Umm... Little Big Planet... What inovative games does xbox have?

by Sigh - 2007-07-24 18:54
» To the NONE...

DREAM ON... I hope you xbots start holding your breath in wait of a 360 port... Hopefully some of you will go blue, then purple, then die off and help reduce the burden of overpopulation.

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 18:54
» That's not a logical arguement Folding

"Have you ever noticed how many XBOT's want MGS to come to the 360 and how few Playstation owners are crying for Halo 3 to come to the PS3? That alone should tell you enough about the difference between Halo and MGS."



Halo has as much chance of appearing on the PS3 as Killzone has of appearing on the 360. Gamers know this, they know those games are 100% guarenteed not to move onto another console, therefore no-one is 'crying' for these games on opposition consoles.



However, MGS4 on the 360 is a possibility (just like DMC4 before). Hence because of all the rumours, and because it IS possible, gamers are going to want this game for the 360. They are not 'crying' for Killzone, they are not crying for GT5, but MGS4, that just might happen.

by You phail - 2007-07-24 18:57
» at imitating MCS

I guess while AoxomamoxoA, Xman and the REAL MCS are having their little 3way xbot lovefest posers like you have to try and fill up the trolling void they leave behind...



"Durrr.... XBOX has duh bettar gamezzzzz..."

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 19:10
» ^^^You missed the point

I said no PC FPS had ALL that I listed for Halo in November 2001, they only had a subset, i.e. just SOME of those things.



Vehicles were not introduced into the UT series until 2004 (3 years after Halo), and Quake 3 didn't have any vehicles at all. Neither had great advanced physics, and again in 2001, neither had the integration of indoor and outdoor environments implemented as seamlessly and on a scale seen in Halo.

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 19:16
» ^^^ Please grow up!

I'm simply stating the possibility, not that I WANT it to appear on the 360, since I would probably be playing it on a PS3 anyway....eventually... (I'm waiting for a 'proper' price drop before I purchase a PS3, and waiting for 65nm processors in the 360 before I purchase the console...probably next year for both).

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 19:21
» To summarise mr toasty

In Halo, within the environments, you could run and walk over them (of course) both inside and outside, you can also drive over them (both inside and outside) and you could fly over them (both inside and outside). No other FPS offered this back in 2001.

by The ONE - 2007-07-24 19:28
» What's the point of this MCS?

Deny it all you want but the PS3's 2008 lineup looks very strong indeed.



As for Heavenly Sword, you may compare it to God of War, but the last time I checked, GoW was a Playstation exclusive. So gee, I guess PS3 gamers will have to make do with GoW3 in future *if* Heavenly Sword is not as good as some hope.

by Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-24 21:43
» Hey

Viva Pinata B!tch. LOL, XD, OWNED!. HAHA b!tch now what B!tch.

by ArtiK - 2007-07-24 21:47
» ...

They're all jealous that we get MGS4, and they don't.



Stop giving fanboys the attention that they want... ¬¬

by Mr. Common Sense - 2007-07-24 22:03
» HEy @sshole

You get it for the time being. Its a timed exclusive. Besides Bill Gates can buy Konami for a Billion. How about that. He was more money.

by ArtiK - 2007-07-24 22:12
» Good

Good for Billie that he can Konami. =)



anyway, one question, Why do you bash the PS3?

by DerDude - 2007-07-24 22:40
» do your research...

" ^^^You missed the point



I said no PC FPS had ALL that I listed for Halo in November 2001, they only had a subset, i.e. just SOME of those things.



Vehicles were not introduced into the UT series until 2004 (3 years after Halo), and Quake 3 didn't have any vehicles at all. Neither had great advanced physics, and again in 2001, neither had the integration of indoor and outdoor environments implemented as seamlessly and on a scale seen in Halo."



All that you listed had Tribes or Tribes 2 implemented years before Halo.

by xbox gay 60 - 2007-07-24 23:04
» ha ha ha

dream on *****. it'll run on ps3 better than anything

by xbox fans are losers - 2007-07-25 01:05
» lets' see

this game is a ps3 exclusive and that s it... its 25gb on blu-ray with uncompressed audio as mentioned by kojima, how the hell are you going to fit that on your xbox360...



whether u 360 throlls like it or not, mgs4 is going to be a sales pusher for ps3... it may be less it may be more, but it will definitely push up the sales significantly...



and what is wrong with u throlls? if this had come to 360, u guys would have come here and throlled about how sony got their a$$ owned and stuff... and since its an exclusive u all come here and talk about how its no big deal where many of the gamesites are just cooing about it... and for the rest of the throlls, u guys just insist that its coming to 360 with no valid proof... dont u guys have enough games on ur 360 to keep u busy



this is a stealth action game and one of the best its going to be... the camo suit is an innovative idea and no other stealth games has utilised it so far...



than to come here to throll...

by The ONE - 2007-07-25 01:08
» *Sigh* Do your research too!

"All that you listed had Tribes or Tribes 2 implemented years before Halo."



Tribes was released late 2000 (a little over a year before Halo, not YEARS before) and it was an online ONLY game. There was no single player mode and therefore NO advanced AI. So we can discount that game as offering all that I listed.



Tribes 2 was release early-mid 2001, and the main change there was the addition of a very limited single player game, which was really just a tutorial for the multiplayer game, using bots (think UT) with simple AI. This was all to prepare the gamer for the main game ahead, the multi-player online mode.



So as I said, it still offers a subset of that list I provided for Halo, but yes, I conceed that Tribes 2 is *very* close. Of course, if you feel it's more than that (I didn't actually play Tribes 2), then it's one game by a few months (not years), and even then it's a game with a VERY limited single player game, i.e. a tutorial, hence limited appeal. Therefore there was still no FPS like Halo upon it's release.



Tribes Vengeance (2004) was the first in the series with a full single player game (it used EPIC's Unreal Engine I believe).

by The ONE - 2007-07-25 01:16
» Ok, I've done more research, Tribes is older

Release Novemver 1998 according the the website I found, so you right that it was released years earlier, but wrong that it included all that I listed, since it was multiplayer only.



But thanks anyway, it was interesting to find out more about the game (in fact I'm going to download the Tribes 2 demo to see for myself) :)

by Mr PS man - 2007-07-25 02:18
» Problem

Hey Mr.common sense how are you? I think you got a problem with your selve not with games or consoles. your problem is very sad and deep in you soul. Oh man how can I help you? answer: I cant help you! Only you can help yourselve! sorry for my broken english Iam a psychoDoc, life in spain, and it seems like you have lost your father and now you are searching for a new father. But Bill Gates is not an optine.

I have a friend his name is Michael.J he is a good guy. I think he can help you with a father role. Iam happy for a answer Lil.commen sense MB your psychoDoc







P.S MGS 4 Ps3 exclusive Thanks to Kojima the best guy in the world! And then comes me and you

by G.C - 2007-07-25 03:06
» ...

Slow Video Which Keeps Pausing, I Cant Be *****ing ASked

by Thabor - 2007-07-25 03:15
» Time being..

Sorry Bill already blew that money on extending your warranty

by Folding Junkie! - 2007-07-25 03:53
» Yay!

I only post as myself. There is no reason for me to imitate anyone !

by angel of disgrace - 2007-07-25 04:01
» no xbox version...

it cant run on 360... the 360`s hardware isnt powerful enough... not only that but the 9.8gb or whatever of the 360`s double layer dvd isnt enough space for the game`s contents... and also kojima-san said that it is built from the ground up to run on the ps3`s cell... if it were to come out on 360, it wouldnt run very smoothly, would be released on 2+ discs, and would take a year for it to be ported... microsuck`s console doesnt have the processing power to match the ps3`s cell... the 360 has reached its limit... but the ps3`s hardware hasn`t been fully utilized yet... ps3 has alot of untapped power and alot of potential... xbots stop hating on sony... i know i can be a fanboy sometimes, but i dont always hate on the 360... i like it i just think that micro***** puts too much faith in games like halo and gears... also remember... micro***** is known to swallow ppls money... the 360 still has hardware problems almost 2 years after release... my ps3 and wii havnt broken on me, overheated, crashed, or even froze... i trust sony and nintendo for making sure their hardware is reliable... micro***** halfasses everything, and they always demand money... they always demand huge sums of money for something that shouldnt cost so much...

by indiana jones - 2007-07-25 04:08
» omg

i just have to say i threw up in my own mouth twice. this demo alone was better than any special ops movie ive ever seen.wow , simply amazing.

by @mr common sence - 2007-07-25 05:45
» Pfft...

Viva Pinata looks like a nintendo reject.

by haha - 2007-07-25 06:15
» key word

"he was more money" blew it of i guess huh?

by PS3Rider - 2007-07-25 07:04
» ...

Mr reply to Viva Pinata is.... LOCO ROCO

by random_guy - 2007-07-25 07:18
» ?

viva pinata looks ***** compared to little big planet

by Gaming Since U Were in Diapers - 2007-07-25 08:04
» What was the question again?

MGS will sell first on the PS3 at least and will PROVE to KONAMI that their will be a large enough userbase

to make it a hit by next year, then their will be no reason to even THINK of the silly and downright stupid

thought of putting MGS4 on the xbox 360



Why is it that 'everyone' loves the wii so much? that may not be the case cause hardcore gamers (like myself) is what made the ps2 sell so well last generation, but the fact is that their are MORE casual gamers (if they

can even be called that) than their is hardcore gamers. i mean anyone that thinks bejeweled is a 'challenging' game will not buy a 360 or a PS3 but will go to the wii anyday cause its cheap and they dont

have the dedication or the skill to play a game like Halo, God of war or Devil may cry 3, so in my opinion



that

Nintendo is kicking us hardcore gamers who were here since mario first came out on NES in the balls and is

going to make a quick buck and screwing us all over! sure its 'fun' but is it hardcore? can you feel

accomplished beating a game that your ten yearold sister that NEVER liked games can finish without a gameover taunting her within the first five hours of gameplay? Nintendo wants to force US the gamer to revert back to

their 'simple is fun' style and forces the game publishers to stop working to make games cutting edge and

intense and go to wii and make a f*cking party game! if the wii wins the console war what will happen when

games stop being made for the other consoles? it whould be like the PSone never exisited to compete with the Nintendo64 and evolve hardcore gaming industry. I am a PS3 fan and DAMN proud of it, i've been down about the mistakes Sony have made since they launched the PS3 but I stuck with them since the psone and ps2 and now

they are fixing their problems and moving foward, next year will be a great year for the PS3, i like the 360

now but not a fan, I bought a microsoft product for the fact that as for as console first person shooting

goes, the xbox360 has it owned for the time being and the first to the market strategy is the reason why

(Halo3 dosent have Killzone to compare to this year) I whould hope they whould just admit that their 360 have a problem and fix it BEFORE anyone has to buy it only to have it show the Red Ring of Death within the first

year, my 360 hasent died yet but I whould hate to be forced to wait three weeks just to resume playing games, having a job makes it hard to fully put yourself into gaming like the good old days when I was a kid and had all the time in the world. I have to keep a open mind when I buy games but as for now the wii just seem to be getting us hardcore gamers NOWHERE



Also........

why does it ALWAYS look like PS users are the first to 'defect' to another console when times get rough? what the F*uck is up with that!? Nintendo fans stay for life it seems and Xbot fans seem to do the same regardless



of paying for xbox live service each and every year, i'm ashamed to think people can think us fans can be so

fickle when it comes to sony.

by Gaming Since U Were in Diapers AGAIN - 2007-07-25 08:23
» What was the question again? Reposted

MGS will sell first on the PS3 at least and will PROVE to KONAMI that their will be a large enough userbase

to make it a hit by next year, then their will be no reason to even THINK of the silly and downright stupid

thought of putting MGS4 on the xbox 360



Why is it that 'everyone' loves the wii so much? that may not be the case cause hardcore gamers (like myself) is what made the ps2 sell so well last generation, but the fact is that their are MORE casual gamers (if they can even be called that) than their is hardcore gamers. i mean anyone that thinks bejeweled is a 'challenging' game will not buy a 360 or a PS3 but will go to the wii anyday cause its cheap and they dont

have the dedication or the skill to play a game like Halo, God of war or Devil may cry 3, so in my opinion

that Nintendo is kicking us hardcore gamers who were here since mario first came out on NES in the balls and

is going to make a quick buck and screwing us all over! sure its 'fun' but is it hardcore? can you feel accomplished beating a game that your ten yearold sister that NEVER liked games can finish without a gameover taunting her within the first five hours of gameplay? Nintendo wants to force US the gamer to revert back to their 'simple is fun' style and forces the game publishers to stop working to make games cutting edge and intense and go to wii and make a f*cking party game! if the wii wins the console war what will happen when games stop being made for the other consoles? it whould be like the PSone never exisited to compete with the Nintendo64 and evolve hardcore gaming industry. I am a PS3 fan and DAMN proud of it, i've been down about the mistakes Sony have made since they launched the PS3 but I stuck with them since the psone and ps2 and now they are fixing their problems and moving foward, next year will be a great year for the PS3, i like the 360 now but not a fan, I bought a microsoft product for the fact that as for as console first person shooting goes, the xbox360 has it owned for the time being and the first to the market strategy is the reason why (Halo3 dosent have Killzone to compare to this year) I whould hope they whould just admit that their 360 have a problem and fix it BEFORE anyone has to buy it only to have it show the Red Ring of Death within the first year, my 360 hasent died yet but I whould hate to be forced to wait three weeks just to resume playing games, having a job makes it hard to fully put yourself into gaming like the good old days when I was a kid and had all the time in the world. I have to keep a open mind when I buy games but as for now the wii just seem to be getting us hardcore gamers NOWHERE



Also........

why does it ALWAYS look like PS users are the first to 'defect' to another console when times get rough? what the F*uck is up with that!? Nintendo fans stay for life it seems and Xbot fans seem to do the same regardless of paying for xbox live service each and every year, i'm ashamed to think people can think us fans can be so fickle when it comes to sony.

by Teflon Hahn - 2007-07-25 10:28
» Why Miscrosofts money does NOT matter

X-box fantards seem to not realize that NO company has money just floating around. If you have a company with let's say, I dunno 15 divisions and subsidiaries, and you have 300 million. That does NOT mean that ALL the divisions have access to the money. The Xbox division of microsoft has a set amount of money for console production, advertising and yes warranties. The reason they are losing money is because they can't just lost 1.5 billion on gaming and expect to take more money out of another division like let's say their operating system division. I'm an automotive technician and I work for toyota. Out Sedan division had way more money than our small truck SuV division. That doesn't mean that our SUV division can just use funding from our sedan division if need be. Hope I made it clear. No "billion dollar check" from the american devil bill gates with sway the mild mannered japanese Hideo Kojima. I mean that in a sense that not everyone can be bought like in the U.S PS3 FTW

by qqqqqqqqqqq - 2007-07-25 16:57
» ^^^so u have neither??

rather hypocritical if u ask me...

by Mister Common Sense - 2007-07-25 17:03
» I'm sorry

i've realized how wrong i was. the 360 sucks!!!!! I shaw now proceed to shove it up my fat arse (just like how daddy did it 2 me when i was little)

by lass - 2007-07-25 17:19
» your dumb

crap a ps3 fantard, i want mgs4 too so stop being a tard idiot

by XTreme - 2007-07-25 18:11
» @The ONE - I see the hand of PS3 fanboys at work :)

That's the only reason why your post is voted down, because everything you said was correct. :)



Gamers only talk about games which have a possibility of coming to their console, whether these are games officially announced, or games rumoured to be coming to their console. There are no rumours of Halo 3 coming to the PS3, there are no rumours of GT5 going to the 360, and everyone in the industry knows this is not going to happen.

by The ONE - 2007-07-25 18:20
» ^^^^ Do you know what 'Hypocritical' means?

Obviously not (and no I'm not angry :)).



So because I don't own these consoles I can't talk about them or their games, despite being a gamer for many years? Oh please. So I need to own at least a 360 or PS3 before I have the right to talk about them? Think before you post next time.



So going back to the hypocrite allegation, and given what I've said above, do explain how I'm being a hypocrite just for talking about MGS4 gameplay and about the rumours of MGS4 coming to the 360?

by Older than you - 2007-07-25 18:25
» Uh huh

"Gaming Since U Were in Diapers"



Which probably means you are in fact a teenager.

by Older than you - 2007-07-25 18:32
» Keep telling yourself that

"it cant run on 360... the 360`s hardware isnt powerful enough... "



The gameplay graphics of Call of Duty 4 (for both 360 and PS3 btw) was far more impressive and had far more going on than MGS4. So of course the 360 is powerful enough for this game (both consoles have similar power, or did you not know this because you've fallen for the hype?).



The rest of your post continues with the same fanboy stupidity, so I'll leave you to your own little world.

by The ONE - 2007-07-25 21:17
» ^^^ UPDATE! Tribes certainly ain't no Halo :)

Ok, I've played the Tribes 2 demo after downloading it from here;



http://videogames.yahoo.com/predownload?eid+328407





Sorry to say DerDude, but it's terrible (download it and play it yourself, I'm sure you'll agree). The graphics are poor by any standards, even for a PC game of 2001 (and to think Halo arrived on the XBox just months after this game!).



I found no sign of the advanced physics you seem to think is in the game. Yes there's the usual driving/flight model, but that is not advanced physics (you just have to see some of the movies gamers created using Halo to appreciate the physics in that game). The AI is as basic as you can get, again because the single-player game is really just a tutorial for the multi-player game. So no advanced physics, no advanced AI.



So given that this is the nearest to offering what Halo offered, and given that Halo was released just months afterwards, you should be able to appreciate why Halo had the impact it had.



So like I said, FPSs at the time only offered a subset of what we got in Halo, including Tribes. :|



Thanks just the same.

by The ONE - 2007-07-25 21:22
» That link...

http://videogames.yahoo.com/predownload?eid+328407



Change the plus character to equals to get that link to work (QJ still has a problem of changing certain characters in messages).



Alternatively, use google or similar to search for Tribes+2+demo+d ownload on the internet.

by Dante - 2007-07-26 00:47
» 100

HA HA Snake`s controller said everything:-)

Cant wait to have that game!

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