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Market Analysts Predict Sales Challenge for PS3

Posted Aug 16, 2006 at 1:43PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: iSuppli, playstation 3 updates, price drop, Sony, Wikipedia
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Gawking at the PS3The biggest variable that could affect sales of Sony's PS3 may not be the technology it incorporates - from BluRay to the Cell to 1080p - or the lineup of games, game developers, and gamers just itching to get a crack at the system, at launch or otherwise.

To quote a former US President's campaign slogan (and according to Wikipedia, rather imprecisely), it's the economy.

Market analysts are generally bearish regarding the potential sales in the long-term for the PS3, given economists predicting dampening consumer confidence due to a rash of terror attacks, increasing oil prices, and declining disposable household income playing off against the PS3's US$500/600 pricing scheme.

Sony itself forecasts sales of two million units for the first month-and-a-half post-launch, and an additional six through 2007. The analysts surveyed by a TG Daily article agree that the first number is attainable, but remain uncertain about the second.

(This opinion piece tends to be on the ironic side, given that we've reported that a Boston research firm predicts Sony will capture the market for next-gen consoles by 2011. On the other hand, they also said that the total sales for the three  - PS3, XBox 360, and Wii -  will be less than the sixth-gen consoles (PS2, XBox, Gamecube) due to high prices. And - worrisome for the PS3 - they also mention that Microsoft is well-placed to cut 360 prices in spring 2007.)

There is no argument from the analysts that hardcore gamers and longtime PlayStation fans will be snapping up the first PS3 run as they arrive on shelves. After all, given that Sony had earlier announced prices, they've had the time to save up for it. But that's the hardcore market, only ten percent of the total market for consoles, say the analysts.

It's the other market, the one less driven by technological shock and awe and more sensitive to the pocketbook, that will decide whether the console will fly off the shelves. The mass market. And their decisions - and the future of Sony's market share in the console industry - will depend on a number of factors, primarily price drop and the future of BluRay in the wider entertainment industry.

We'd normally not worry about price drop too much - after so much experience with game consoles across manufacturers and generations, it tends to be a historical inevitability. It's the BluRay adoption that could be worrisome. Sony's betting that the PS3 will drive greater interest in BluRay, not just in games but for the greater entertainment industry as well. They had recently released BluRay recordables to the market to emphasize the point.

One analyst, Michael Cai (Parks Associates) sees the cart pulling the horse there. It will be BluRay's fate in the home entertainment market that will decide the future of PS3 sales, he argues (PS3 being the cheapest BluRay player out there notwithstanding). Another analyst, Chris Crotty (iSuppli) sees differently, though: BluRay vs. HD-DVD wouldn't matter too much, not with online content delivery to deal with, and besides, both these technologies as well as online delivery will probably take five years to mature - just in time, he notes, for the PS#@%!18
19#@%!. Which leaves the PS3 some breathing room. Besides, Sony's arguing that with the growth and maturing of the HDTV market, there'll be enough interest in high-def players - and thus the PS3 - anyway.

Maybe all this economic talk and number-crunching has the same effect on us as those mandatory economic classes in college: put us to sleep. But there is a bottom line to worry about: should we worry? As said before, hardcore gamers/Sony fans will gladly pay for the PS3, even if it means paying through the nose, no matter what the Knights Who Say Nay - professional economic analyst or otherwise - say. (Remember all the critics of Star Wars Ep. I?) Speaking for himself, this writer wants his chance at the PS3, as well as the other next-generation consoles and a multicore PC gaming rig, though his disposable income will be a problem.

But it's those who can't afford to pay through the nose that will face the challenge. We eagerly await the inevitable price drop, but that drop and by how much are still dependent on continuing market interest in the PS3 to justify increased production runs to cut or spread costs for both the console and the games that come out for it. In economic terms that's called "economies of scale." And that variable will be affected by a lot of factors from both the specific game industry and the wider entertainment industry, such as wider BluRay adoption (which makes the format and the players cheaper), or whether Sony may shift to making the "home entertainment" capability an optional add-on (which allows the company to delete some components - and thus costs - from the PS3 package). Economics, even for games, is both democratic and Darwinian. A Wall Street Journal article says it all: "Sony needs more than hardcore gamers" to pick up the PS3.

Let's spice up the comments a little bit. Here's the challenge to you gamers: what do you think manufacturers can do to cut costs on their next-gen consoles - not only the PS3, but also the 360 and the Wii? How fast do you think the price drop will occur for each system? And, especially for us budget-conscious gamers, how can we make it go faster? Do your research, fiddle about those economics books collecting dust somewhere, and let's keep these comments constructive. Who knows? Maybe one of you might come up with The Idea, and maybe some industry rep will look it up and actually try it.



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# analysts...comedy 2006-08-16 07:55
can anyone tell me how often 'analysts' are right?



the US may be suffering from having a rubbish economy but the uk is doing super-well thanks very much! though 425 quigs is quite a lot more than $600... oh well.

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# ...Guest 2006-08-16 08:33
Oops, didn't realise it was an extended article.. anyway in answer to your questions:



What do you think manufacturers can do to cut costs on their next-gen consoles - not only the PS3, but also the 360 and the Wii? => They're in too deep to change much now. They can change chip fabrication procedures etc, but the only way to cut costs now would be to improve the economy of scales, and to do that they must sell huge quantities of consoles first. Catch 22



How fast do you think the price drop will occur for each system? => Xbox 360: Early Next year. PS3, Mid next year, Wii: late next year. I base these dates on pure speculation [maybe I should be an analyst?].



And, especially for us budget-conscious gamers, how can we make it go faster? => It's not up to the budget-conscious, it'll be up to the early adopters to spend up quickly.



Do your research, fiddle about those economics books collecting dust somewhere, and let's keep these comments constructive. Who knows? => These companies have massive teams of bean counters. They are cutting every corner and sealing every deal. Look at the amount of tech in these consoles and then come back to me and say they are expensive. The answer is simple, if you're prepared to pay as much as the console makers are asking, then do so. If not, either buy a cheaper next-gen console (ie Wii) or continue with current gen until prices are closer to your budget range.

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# for ps3 to get cheaper:comedy 2006-08-16 09:58
if, and this is a big IF, loads of people buy a lot of blueray drives and disks, and a lot of ps3's and lots of whatever will hold the cellchip in the future (and not to mention when cell goes 65nm) then sony will be able to benefit from greater economies of scale...



but that's unlikely... right?



yeah, as ps3 hasn't even launched yet it is just a little early to be talking about price reductions... sony have recently stated they aren't dropping ps3's price, they took out some 700million dollar loan the other week, i'd say they need all the cash they can get, and the first 2 million consoles will be snapped up in a heart beat.





i say we all have to get richer, that way there will be no need for price drops... and how do i propose we do this?

simple, it's like a chain letter, but we set up a paypal adress and make a good argument for why we deserve a ps3 more than someone else... and an independant adjudicator (such as myself) moderates the answers and then dishes out the money in the paypal adress (did i mention you pay $1 or $2 per 'entry') to the top however many people according to the money in the kitty...



that will be fun won't it!?



at least, it's a totally off subject idea.

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# ps3 will do fineGuest 2006-08-16 10:15
look at ipods for example, they sell for $400 and sell alot considering its a simple mp3 player.so a gaming console/blu-ray player @ $600 is a great price...PERIOD



these guy think they know everything, well if they do, can they tell us the next great depression?HELL NO. i though so....



2pac RIP

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# Another analyst to say "PS3 is too expensive!"Planet 2006-08-16 14:34
That was number 27848 in line, 38547592 more to go.



Now serving: 27849 *bling*

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# ...Guest 2006-08-16 15:22
Another analyst, another opinion. These guys are full of cr*p.



Maybe QJ can have a filtering system, where these stories still get posted, but users can filter out rumours and "analyst predictions" if they do not wish to view them.



I quite like seeing rumours posted, no matter how outlandish, but I would like to filter out these professional psychics

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# PS3 will break the neck of SonyGuest 2006-08-16 16:49
PS3 will break the neck of Sony

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# Guest 2006-08-16 17:01
Now, I'm not exactly a Sony fan, but QJ... Please... PLEASE, stop posting articles about analysts.



They are almost never right, and they just add fuel to the fire that spawns from retarded fanboy flame wars.

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# wait, that's not a chain letter at all...comedy 2006-08-16 17:03
it's a competition! hold a competition qj, then someone can walk away with a 'free' ps3!! you'll get so much interest, and perhaps 1cent per dollar could go to 'charity' (or the qj upkeep fund... who knows)



how about... all the bad press stops and some good positive news comes out of the internet for a change? then people will hear GOOD things and WANT to buy the consoles, encouraging growth and therefor speeding the onset of a price drop...



i know, sony, ms and nintendo should spend millions of dollars on advertising campaigns, they should totally make everyone aware of their systems and show them why they shoudl spend their money....

i'm a genius.

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# LoLGuest 2006-08-16 23:18
LoL@ Analysts and nubcaeks...



When Playstation fails, it'll be the end of consoles... Full stop, the end, bye bye, ciao.



I have a 360, and have a Wii on Pre-Order, but It's not complete without a PS3...



MMMMM November 17, is my favourite day of the year.

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# Dont see it happeningGuest 2006-08-17 04:59
I just dont see it happening.

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# Actually the US economy is extremely strong right now.TheProfessor 2006-08-17 05:42
I'm having a hard time just hiring people because of competition. Some analyst are predicting we would see slowdown come fall but currently we are all smiling. I should know I work for one of the largest investment banks in the world.



But back to cost cutting. The brilliance of having blu-ray on the PS3 is that blu-ray will decrease in price substantially in the coming years. Brand new tech lowers much faster in price. Another brilliant idea was the Cell. These things are going to be embedded in newer HDTVs and home electronics. Guess what that means, price cuts galore.



We don't need to come out with ideas. Besides what the critics say, Sony's PS3 is a masterpiece. They own most of the technology in the machine and are licensing/sharing it with a large number of manufactures which will drive the cost down considerably with mass production. In 1 or 2 years expect the price of the cheaper PS3 to be even with the Xbox. I actually see the 599 merging with the 499 in the future when HDMI becomes standard and cheaper to include, around 2-3 years. Which means that at that time, you will see only one PS3 costing roughly 299 dollars. 5 years down the road the PS3 would cost around 149.99.

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# LolSteveTao 2006-08-17 12:56
So many analyst predictions. And the most amazing thing of all: All those analyst predictions keep contradicting each other each new day. Yesterday, it was the Wii. Today, it's the 360. Tomorrow, it's the PS3. In the end, IT IS THE PS3 that will win!

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