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Lair video from CES

Posted Jan 14, 2007 at 8:56AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: CES, Factor 5, Julian Eggebrecht, playstation 3 updates, YouTube

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So you've seen the video interview with Factor 5's Julian Eggebrecht as well as the game's stint in the SIXAXIS ad. But have you seen this Lair video taken from the recently held CES?

Well yeah, okay, some of you probably have. But for the majority of non-YouTube-surfing QJ readers out there, this might be their first time to catch this vid posted by gstekjansen on YouTube which shows more of them fire-breathing, wing-flapping dragons as they hover and swerve through the castles and game environments.

And as you guys probably know, Lair will have 1080p support and tilt control compatibility. But unfortunately for us, the quality of this vid right here doesn't exactly show us the wow factor of having it run on 1080p, nor does it show how the tilts work. Nonetheless, it's still 23 seconds worth of gameplay glimpses and surely, none of us are complaining about that, right? So anyhoo, enough with the chitty chatty yadda yadda, we'll just let you take in the fiery goodness of the vid below. Enjoy!

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''ummmm....one word....CRAP

One System to Rule them All - X360''

Lol umm one word 'denial'. You stupid fanboy is that all you got?? PS3 is takin over the 360 in graphics and you just cant accept it lol. Take a look at the GT HD game on PS3. That game beats anything on 360 in graphics and don't deny it, cause you know it's true. Even Lair is superiour in graphics to anything out on 360. Sorry but you bought the wrong system hahaha! Now get off the ps3 section you stupid ass-wipe!

# wrong — Guest 2007-01-14 13:39

GEARS OF WARS pwns all sony games and upcoming games nothing beats it in graphics go back and play ur overprice P$3. Resistance fall of $ony (R.I.P)

# well! — Guest 2007-01-14 14:03

Im back PPL. One word: This game sucks @ss its the most retarded ***** I have seen in my life. Like puke up a donkey's @ss. Halo/Gears/my Nintendo Wii owns this crap/diarea mess. This game would have been 3x better on my Xbox 360. I dont care about Tilt. Stupid Gaystation 3/Fanboys!

# Lol — Guest 2007-01-14 14:48

Hah I've seen Gears of War and the graphics are nothing special lol! NOT realistic. When Killzone comes out for PS3 you xbots will be *****ting in your pants and crying for a PS3 and you know it lol!

Anyway best thing to do with arrogent 360 fanboys like you is to ignore your stupid rants!

# well.. — Guest 2007-01-14 14:54

I decided to set my 360 on fire, and came over to the Sony side. Gears got boring after awhile and now I am having a blast on RFoM.

# One word... — Guest 2007-01-14 14:59

Your intelligence emits from you with such radiance.... "One word" followed by "This game sucks @ss its the most retarded ***** I have seen in my life" um please don't buy a 360... they obviously make you stupid. Please please please halonerd, never have kids. The world would be better without more of you. You should just stop playing games altogether, we would rather not have you.

# re: well! — Guest 2007-01-14 15:03

I was just kidding... I own a PS3. This game looks pretty phatty, I can't wait to get it!! I actually already preordered it. SONY ROXXOR!!

# don't say stuff like that — lansingone 2007-01-14 15:26

"blogt" i am one of the people that beleive killzone can look as good as E3 2005, i may find myself eating my words later on but thats just what i think. but you must know that any big fan of X360 will never wish thay had a PS3, even if it was found it could use energy waves to make food for you, thay would still hate it. but this bit is about LAIR i think this game shows great graphics, (look at all the enemys on screen) if this game can do all that in 1080p don't you think that it's showing that PS3 is verry powerfull?

# Unfortunately... — Shatterdome 2007-01-14 15:56

You are in as much deinal, as GoW destroys anything visually on PS3....and Forza looks just as good as GTHD, if not better (no blurry ass textures)

Anyways, anyone that knows anything truly about either systems knows that their potential is about the same...

# Actually... — Shatterdome 2007-01-14 16:05

You are wrong....ANY fanboy is a fool. If PS3 can truly offer me something useful or revolutionary that I cannot find elsewhere, then I will get it. About the only thing it is good for is as a blu-ray player or a resonably priced linux box, for doing cpu intense operations....but I want a gaming machine and that's why I have a 360....if they can actually make a game that looks like their E3 killzone CG then i'd get it...but from what i've read about architecture reviews and comparisons, then if PS3 can do it, so can 360...

# rftr — Guest 2007-01-14 16:27

ok gow dont destroys anything visually on PS3

and Forza is going to sux.and hell no its not going to better then gthd

ps3 hads way more potential then 360

game coming out for

360 will be no better then gow in graphics gameplay online u name it

# fanboy now and day but u konw they only kids — Guest 2007-01-14 16:33

hell no GEARS OF WARS dont pwns all sony games and upcoming game in graphics look at lair mgs4 ff13 ffv13 killzone

gow hads good graphics for now but its graphics its not going to be that good wnen better games come out

# WOW — Guest 2007-01-14 16:35

this is probably the most childish fanboy flamewar i've seen yet in a comments section. and i'm talking about BOTH sides of the argument.

personally, I love the PS3 (i own one of course), but I also respect the 360. why can't we all just stop the hating and PLAY what we think is best rather than preach it?

# redrfe — Guest 2007-01-14 16:35

xbox fan boy get out of this article

# Gears of War — Guest 2007-01-14 17:24

Are you fanboys going to use one game "Gears of War" to counter back everything? I mean the game is a 2nd gen game. and your comparing to resistance? Even lair is a 1st gen game. at least wait till the 3rd generation until you compare your 4th generation games to our 3rd.

Gears of War does pwn everything, but what else? is that hte only game out of the entire year you guys have had?

you cant play 2 games for 10 years now can you?

# ... — Vietone 2007-01-14 17:36

LAIR looks just as good as GoW.

Watch the HD trailer and you will see the detail in the game and the environments is just amazing.

Not to mention Ut2K7 is coming to the PS3 which puts GoW to shame.

Also Forza at this point in time is far worse then the GTHD demo.

# Not true — Vietone 2007-01-14 17:39

There are already games that can not be reproduced to be identical or better.

One of those games is LAIR.

The devs said that even if Blu-ray wasnt an issue on the Xbox360, the processing power of the Cell SPEs can not be replicated on the Xbox360.

# don't use other people's names — CSFFlame 2007-01-14 19:42

Impersonating then touting the PS3... well that says alot

# Jesus — CSFFlame 2007-01-14 19:44

Stop speculating about all the games in flamewars, wait for them to be released then compare them.

Talking about an upcoming game is fine, but don't do it relative to another (already released) one.

# Typical form you V — Guest 2007-01-14 21:10

"LAIR looks just as good as GoW."

It LOOKS great, but will the gameplay match the graphics like GOW? Will they fix the frame rate problems which is reported to be terrible at times? We'll have to wait and see

"Not to mention Ut2K7 is coming to the PS3 which puts GoW to shame."

How will UT2K7 put GOW to shame? Stop being so dumb when defending the PS3. They're not the same kind of game and we have yet to see how good it will be as a game or how good it will be on the PS3.

# LOL! — Guest 2007-01-14 21:19

"The devs said that even if Blu-ray wasnt an issue on the Xbox360, the processing power of the Cell SPEs can not be replicated on the Xbox360."

That same dev, Julian to be precise, also used to say the GC was more powerful than the XBox and that the XBox couldn't do what they were doing on the GC. A year or so later, he changed his tune.

The Forza 2 developers say what they're doing with the game can only be acheived on the 360.

Sorry, but I refuse to take the word of console exclusive developers as the gospel truth. I leave that kind of blind belief to fanboys like you. ;)

# it's verry hot in here — lansingone 2007-01-14 21:39

somthing im not sure about, but i think the size of the blu-ray disc will prove to be a huge plus. cuase we can all see thats why games like FFVII game to PS not N64, i don't see it now but i could be sure a year from now games will need over the size of a dual layer dvd. thay could always compress it, but when you compress somthing too much it starts eating up procesing power. i got this FPS game that has music lighting and even bump maps (the thing that makes GoW look so dam good) and takes up 98KB but it takes up just about all of your procesing power when running it so it can decompress and run the game. i can't wait to see GTAIV since from what i think i remember GTA SA took up 4GB and had pretty bad models and textures, now GTA IV is to have hi res textures much higher detail in the models and a map 2 or 3 times larger than SA, my geuss would be it's going to be an 8 or 9 GB game, unless thare going to have lots of the same building or house poping up

# The PS3 will Exceed the Xbox360... — Guest 2007-01-14 23:00

Not Because of the GPU..

Not Because of the Cpu [Which will be a major factor]

But Because of the [built-in HDD of the PS3]

The Limiting Factor on All Systems in this Generation is the RAM...512Mb is Simply not Enough

I am Short on Time right Now....But i will talk More On How Developers Will Be able to use the Hdd to Stream Data and Increase the Amount of Available Ram for the PS3...[Just Like Lair which Uses the Hdd] and was Able to Acheive 1080P with All the Incredible Detail..

Watch Out for the Article... ;)

# Broken_hero does that name relate to you PS3 ? — Guest 2007-01-15 00:49

Nope the PS3 is not equal on ram and as for hard drive streaming that is going to be used on both consoles anyway,the new size 360 drives will properly be launched in early March as well.

# Looks Poor — Guest 2007-01-15 00:52

Be honest look at that video again and say it looks awesome ?,it looks just like Eragon and that is poor.

# Broke_Hero read the latest news — Guest 2007-01-15 01:59

Broken_Hero before you say anymore on how "you think" the PS3 is going to do so well go read the latest news here-

http://ps3.qj.net/IDC-comments-on-PS3-sales-figures/pg/49/aid/79364

I suppose you have not heard that the PC game called CRYSIS will NOT run on the PS3 or 360 as both are not powerfull enough.

So maybe you should start bringing the PC into your arguments now and tell us how the PS3 is gonna Exceed that to.

# What a shame — Guest 2007-01-15 03:57

All that work and if the game really is as good as the hype indicates, so few own a PS3 and will be able to buy it. Let's just see how this turns out.

# hmmm — Guest 2007-01-15 04:21

The PS3 has so much potential, but then again, sooo many games are coming out for the 360, that its the system to get. A lot of PS3 games are losing their exclusivity, which makes it seem better to get a 360/Wii.

Other than that, this game look amazing!

# Explain this one for me Broken — Guest 2007-01-15 04:50

1UP: It's interesting that you think you could do this on 360, though.

Hideo Kojima (creator of the popular Metal Gear Solid): Maybe some nuance or a small details here and there might be different, but I feel that hardware is no longer a matter. I'm just talking about PS3, 360 and PC. Revolution is totally different, but there are really no differences among the other three.

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset+3+cId+3146425

There you go! Any PC, PS3 or 360 can be ported between the 3 systems. Straight from your favorite developers mouth.

# updated link — Guest 2007-01-15 04:55

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId+3146425

replace + with equals sign and click on page 3 for the quote.

# Hmmm — Guest 2007-01-15 06:07

You refer to arrogant 360 fanboys but your post was like that of an arrogant PS3 fanboy. :|

# Not quite Hero — Guest 2007-01-15 06:38

-"The Limiting Factor on All Systems in this Generation is the RAM...512Mb is Simply not Enough"

This I agree with in terms of being a limiting factor overall, but I wouldn't say it's not enough. For the purposes of this gen console gaming, it's just about right.

-"But Because of the [built-in HDD of the PS3]"

I do think you exaggerate the benefits of the HDD on the PS3 compared to the 360. There is very little, if anything, which developers can do on the PS3's HDD that cannot be achieved on the 360. Just because every 360 doesn't have a HDD is not an issue, since a game engine can be designed to make use of it if it's available (as seen in Oblivion for caching).

Yesterday (I think), someone here replied to you about the Lair interview on IGN which you said talks about streaming from both Blu-ray and the HDD. However, in the interview, the dev only talks about streaming from Blu-ray, nothing about the HDD.

The other point about the HDD is space. It's one thing to give gamers an option to dump 4-5 GBs of files on their HDDs to improve load times, but they'll need to dump at least that amount on the HDD to offer benefits from streaming data from the HDD. Surely you don't expect devs to DEMAND that gamers give up 5GB of HDD just to play their game? Especially when many PS3 gamers will have a 20GB HDD! And if you say they can make it optional, then it could just as easily be implemented on the 360, since optional means the game will function with or without that data on a HDD.

-"But i will talk More On How Developers Will Be able to use the Hdd to Stream Data and Increase the Amount of Available Ram for the PS3..."

I look forward to it :D, especially in light of what I've said above. I will also be interested in why you think the use of the HDD in this way will be unique to the PS3.

# It's-a-me — Guest 2007-01-15 07:20

"Yesterday (I think), someone here replied to you about the Lair interview on IGN which you said talks about streaming from both Blu-ray and the HDD...."

Yes, I asked him about it here;

http://ps3.qj.net/Ninja-Gaiden-Sigma-is-35-complete/pg/49/aid/79172#comments

I've just replied to him in that thread (so no need to repeat it here :)).

# Oh and... — Guest 2007-01-15 07:23

...good post FBH.

I completely agree.

# I agree... — Guest 2007-01-15 08:57

They won't stop arguing because:

1. Xbox fanboys are still angry that the PS2 outsold the Xbox by so much, not to mention the Gamecube

2. PS fanboys are angry that the PS3 is getting bad press, and that the 360 is doing really good right now

I'm sure there is many more reasons why there acting like immature bastards, but those two are the only ones I could bother coming up with. :)

Im a fan of Sony, but I still respect the Wii and 360, infact, I bring my PS3 over to my friends house regularly, and we play that, and his 360 and we don't ever argue over which is better, we just play gow, and R:Fom, Fear, Carbon and have fun, to bad most people here are to immature, or blog comments could actually be worth something.

# As a Reply... — Guest 2007-01-15 09:28

"Yesterday (I think), someone here replied to you about the Lair interview on IGN which you said talks about streaming from both Blu-ray and the HDD. However, in the interview, the dev only talks about streaming from Blu-ray, nothing about the HDD."

Actually,they Do...Check the Ninga-Gaiden Thread Again.

"The other point about the HDD is space. It's one thing to give gamers an option to dump 4-5 GBs of files on their HDDs to improve load times, but they'll need to dump at least that amount on the HDD to offer benefits from streaming data from the HDD. Surely you don't expect devs to DEMAND that gamers give up 5GB of HDD just to play their game? "

Not Neccecarily...a Talented Devoloping Company can Get an Excellent Boost in Performance by Pre-Installing [2.5GB of Compressed Data containing the Most Streamed Files in the Game[Like the most Frequent used textures]

I have Posted Part[1] of the Hdd Usage on the Ken-Kutaragi,s Thread,The Other Parts Will Come WHEN-I-HAVE-TIME ;)

# *Sigh* You've said nothing new — Guest 2007-01-15 12:08

"Not Neccecarily...a Talented Devoloping Company can Get an Excellent Boost in Performance by Pre-Installing [2.5GB of Compressed Data containing the Most Streamed Files in the Game[Like the most Frequent used textures]"

That's essentially what we've seen already. Firstly, there's copying large amounts of game data to the HDD to speed up loading. What, prey tell, do you suppose is in that 4-5GB of data that some PS3 games copy to the HDD! (Not needed on the 360 due to faster optical drive).

The idea that pre-installing data is going to help speed up games in general during gameplay is limited. You yourself have pointed out that the level sizes in Lair are up to 4GB, and therefore have been happy to suggest that this game will come close to filling a Blu-ray disk, so a mere 2.5GB of data on the HDD is going to be of negligable help during gameplay. The best you will see are improved load times, but even that is limited, because generally, the bigger the game, the more has to be copied onto the HDD to improve load times.

Secondly, there's caching. The whole point about caching is to ensure that frequently and recently used data is available to be copied from the faster cache (HDD) when needed rather than from the slower original medium (optical disk).

# . — Guest 2007-01-16 01:36

Do you actually think the gameplay will look like the CG movie? Killzone was never that great of a shooter. PS3 just can't do shooters as well. Get used to it.

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