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Killzone 2 could be done on Xbox 360, says ex-Bungie dev

Posted Apr 2, 2009 at 9:20AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Guerrilla, Killzone

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Christian Allen, an ex-developer for Halo studio Bungie, remarks in an interview that Killzone 2 - the flagship shooter of the PlayStation 3 - could be developed for the Xbox 360. If the devs wanted to, that is:

Oh yeah, Killzone 2 could totally be done on 360 if Guerrilla wanted to. The tech is there, if the team and the publishers were motivated, they could do it, just like Halo could come to PS3 if MS didnÂ’t own it. It really comes down to console exclusivity. The tech differences between the PS3 and the 360 arenÂ’t all that much; itÂ’s really about the delivery of content.

I'm no dev so I wouldn't know to what extent an Xbox 360 port is possible. Still, it's hard to imagine that some things, like polygon count, won't be sacrificed in a port.

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It wouldn't be done in 1080 (crap Halo wasn't, it said 1080 but was rendered in 680 and it doesn't even have close to the amount of detail of KZ2), and it would be on at least three DVD's due to its massive size.

Microevil is just trying to look like the 360 has the same specs as the PS3... but it doesn't

# not funny — narutosaiyan 2009-04-02 10:29

April fools was yesterday, the guy is 1 day late. He is also an idiot...if any of u watched the 40 min documentary on the making of killzone u would know why exactly it is not possible on 360. They spesifically explain the amount of storage used on the spu and cpu of the ps3 that is not possible for any other console. If they want a game like killzone on 360 it would loose all its detail. also it is a fact that halo is possible on ps3, but halo is over rated and even if it would come to ps3 people would be playing killzone.He also proves sonys point by saying ps3 has better exclusives lol joke is on u dude

# WTF! — Hekynn 2009-04-02 10:37

That's not funny man!! 360 has *****ty hardware in it!! It won't even be able to run KZ2 smoothly they would have to turn the graphics WAAAAAAAY DOWN!

# LOL — Ps3DAD 2009-04-02 10:45

you Xbox360 fan boys (dev's included) want it so bad you can't stand it. all i can say is just LMFAO!

# Actually, it could be done. — PS34ME 2009-04-02 11:09

killzone2 will be surpassed by games on both the 360 and PS3 in future. that's the way game development goes each gen, especially since the 360 and PS3 are similar in power (the PS3 is only slightly more powerful overall).

btw, KZ2 wasn't 1080 on the PS3 either, it's 720p (with Quincunx anti-aliasing).

besides, the beautiful looking Killzone 2 will never come to the 360 anyway, so it's a moot point really. :)

# Killzone 2 — phiyuku 2009-04-02 11:21

Was in 1080i maxed not only 720p. Though I think if you have both 720p and 1080i chosen on ps3 the 720p is the primary choice.

Xbox 360 was advertised as 720p but only achieved 680p while xbox 360 uses upscaling to bring it up to 720p

The game would take multiple disc on the xbox 360 to put enough textures for 1080i. The xbox probably can't handle it imo. Because there is a lot of physics involved in Killzone 2 which the PS3 highly excels in. Multiple discs on a FPS is ridiculous, i think multiple discs as a whole now a days is pretty ridiculous. They could of course lower resolution which would help out with space problems.

# Meh — jomacho0 2009-04-02 11:23

I own both consoles and the main difference between the two is the price!

# lol — TonyFlakes 2009-04-02 11:23

lol 40GB? Enjoy you game in 5 dvd9

# lol I was just gonna say that — Master Chef 2009-04-02 11:29

It doesn't run in 1080 on the PS3 either, so what's your point?

BTW I'm looking at tech sheets for Halo 3, says 640p, not 1080i or P (or 680 for that matter). Check your info before posting

# ... — Justingraziano 2009-04-02 11:32

No, actually it cant come there. KillZone 2 is like a signature, it means something to millions of people. What? It means that they can access free online multiplayer. Now if it came to the 360, that wouldnt happen.

# ugh — SuperQuest 2009-04-02 12:09

i also own both consoles ... and the 360 is really poorly made ... i don't beleive it can run K2. on the other hand ... PS3 suck because it need more aggressive marketing and more exclusive like K2 to help selling

# WTF!!! — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:12

This is BS, and you know why? Ive yet to see a game on the 360 to match the graphics of metal gear solid never mind killzone, to be honest im suprised the 360 is getting Final Fantasy (bet thats on at least 2 discs). The only game I believe 360 can be proud of is gears of war 2, but epics best work is behind them. Ill say this, as soon as the PS3 get the motion controller, its game over for the 360. Im sorry right, but you get what you pay for, ps3 - better console, 360 - better online

# phiyuku , im talking about the native res, not upscaled — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:13

the _native_ resolution of Killzone 2 is 720p (as measured by the the same people who reported the native res for many other 360 and ps3 games and reported on forums such as beyond 3d). 1080i is upscaled.

the issue of upscaling applies to many 360 and ps3 games, such as the brilliant COD4, which is 600p on both consoles, or gta4 which is 720p on 360 (with that filter i dont like) and is 640p on ps3. etc

the game would by multiple disc on 360 because of overall content, not textures. 1080i has nothing to do with it (not least because, as mentioned, the game's native res is 720p).

as for the physics, perhaps or perhaps not, we could argue about that one all day, but it would be pointless. :)

# er hem — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:19

the ps3's controller already has motion sensing....wait....don't tell me you were actually taken in by that April Fools joke?

# What an e-***** war — avatar76 2009-04-02 12:19

This is a stupid article, the guy basically says yeah it could be done but it might not look the same as the PS3 version. Duh, really?!?

Halo3 could be done on a pentium1@120MHz too but it wouldn't look as good.

I don't think anyone thinks that there is some holy barrier around the code of KZ2 that would prevent it from touching the tainted hardware of the 360. Everyone knows it's more about sony wanting an exclusive game, and fair enough too.

What a pointless thing to say, now if he came out with what specifically they would have to take out and what (if anything) new they could put in for the 360, that could be interesting.

BTW I'm usually called a 360 fanboy or xbot, but this is just a stupid statement from someone who should know better.

# Render Spec — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:20

Ow and as for the render thing, if the 360 has to render a game like halo at 640, you dont have a chance in hell of running killzone on it, it would have to be 576 or lower. I bet halo could be native 1080 if not at least 720 on the ps3. Graphicswise halo looks like crap compared to killzone

# No I wasnt taken by any april fools you noob — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:25

Actually theres been information flying about for sometime right now, articles have been on qj before, you going to tell me there all april fools now, when they have been out since like december

# Render Spec — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:26

# please — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:27

the ps3 also has to render a game like cod4 at 600p. it also has to render gta4 at 640p compared to 720p on the 360. so enough of the sweeping generalisations please. what i see achieved on my ps3 has as much to do with the talents of the devs as to the power of the ps3 itself. hence i would expect similar impressive results from guerilla, naughy dog, konami etc if they were producing 360 exclusive games, since these were the devs achieving the best results on the ps2 last gen.

# actually, you were taken in — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:29

since there's been talk and rumours (NOT official btw) of various motion based controllers/technology for ps3 AND 360 for quite some time now. why you think it's unique to ps3 is interesting.

# Very true yes — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:35

But those two games where shaped around the 360s hardware, the 360 is a different machine, you cant just code a game for the 360 and put it on the ps3.

# nope — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:39

take cod4. as the devs said themselves, they put TWO seperate teams to qork on each version inorder to get the best out of each console. in fact, the devs said they put there best programmers to work on the ps3 version.

so please, enough of the '360 port' excuses. :)

# Hmmm — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:43

Forgive me for being if i come across crued, but evidence ? please, youtube link maybe? I cant prove it is or isnt a port, but i know the 360 is easier to code and produce games for, most companies wouldnt bother creating 2 different models, they would work on getting that 1 model to work on both machines

# also (besides spelling 'work' as 'qork' :)) — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:45

all games which lead on the ps3 and are then ported to 360 (such as burnout for example), also run at the same resoultion and with around the same performance.

# Hmmm — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:46

Thanks for proving my point, i wasnt taking in by "The april fools article" as you have just admitted there has been news in the past, therefore, i didnt fall for the april fools article

# So what's Bungies excuse then? — RavenSPe 2009-04-02 12:48

If Killzone 2 could be done on 360 then why do their games not even look comparable? Are they just not motivated? I guess that's why he's an EX-Employee lol.

# Right — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 12:52

So your under the impression that cause burnout runs on the 360, then all ps3 titles will? companies around the world, take steam for example, research their audiences hardwares specs to produce the game. Now do you really thing Criterion games, knowing the hardware specs of both consoles, would produce a game that would make play difficult on either system?

# nuff said — phiyuku 2009-04-02 12:53

http://www.qj.net/Killzone-2-will-have-native-1080i-support/pg/49/aid/126796

# fair enough — PS34ME 2009-04-02 12:57

had to hunt for a link which wouldn't get corrupted when posted here on qj (hopefully), so here you are, as reported on qj;

http://ps3.qj.net/Infinity-Ward-Call-of-Duty-4-for-PS3-had-the-best-coders/pg/49/aid/108287

it came from as interview with PSM. although comparisons between the game since release showed no noticeable difference between the two versions (either in graphics or no. players online).

# As for other things — phiyuku 2009-04-02 12:58

higher resolution + higher disc space.

640p is probably correct I have no idea since cmonkey is the one that spewed out 680 which I thought was correct.

# meh — haru3173 2009-04-02 13:00

Killzone 2 only has good graphics. The story is not that good and its a fragfest when you go online. Graphicswise, I'd say PS3 wins but in overall, 360 wins by a long shot.

# also again to add since no edit on qj — phiyuku 2009-04-02 13:03

is that for the most part the supported HD resolutions on the back of the PS3 boxes are not lies like Microsofts. Back of Killzone 2 box says 720p and 1080i. Back of Halo 3 is 720p/1080i/1080p

As for content I personally don't think the game was all that long. Everything was rendered except for the opening which was pre-rendered so there is not much that would take up lots of space.

# Right — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 13:04

Well seen as that article doesnt have the native resolutions included, ive just wiki'd it, according to wiki they both have native resolutions of 600p, so whats your point??

# more excuses? — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:07

"So your under the impression that cause burnout runs on the 360, then all ps3 titles will?"

stop twisting the words. you made the point about games being shaped around the 360's hardware and THEN put onto ps3. i've shown you that not only did one of the most impressive multiformat console games, cod4, have two SEPERATE teams working on each console, with the best programmers working on the ps3, but that there are games where the ps3, not the 360, was the lead format.

as for hardware considerations. every multiformat console game which also has a pc version, looks and runs better on the pc. the extra power of the pc is an asset, it does not effect the quality of the lower spec consoles. even ut3, which was optimized and released for ps3 and pc first, looked and ran better on pc compared to ps3, and the 360 version matched the ps3 version upon it's release 6 month later.

if the power difference was as you suggest, then it should be pc first, ps3 second and 360 third in terms of graphics and performance. but this never happens, it's always pc first followed by similar quality ps3 and 360 versions.

# what are you talking about? — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:11

"according to wiki they both have native resolutions of 600p, so whats your point??"

i told you already that they BOTH had a native resolutions of 600p. so whats your point? no really?

you asked for proof after my post about what the cod4 devs said about their game! :|

# to quote myself (second post in this topic) — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:13

"the issue of upscaling applies to many 360 and ps3 games, such as the brilliant COD4, which is 600p on both consoles".

# actually no — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:17

but we will just have to agree to disagree.

btw, still waiting for you to expalin why you think it is unique to the ps3, hence your comment "Ill say this, as soon as the PS3 get the motion controller, its game over for the 360".

# halo 3 has different requirements to killzone — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:23

from what I've seen of halo 3, killzone is not doing everything halo 3 does and then some, but what it does do, it just it exceptionally well.

also, killzone 2 was in developement for twice as long as halo 3, and halo 3 was released long before killzone 2 (games look better with each year that passes as devs learn to push the hardware more and more).

# ?? — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 13:24

Actually I didnt twist words, it was a question. The point im making is games are shaped around the easiest machine to develop for. Yes I agree the pc is far ahead for gaming, but also far behind for online play. There are always hackers and cheaters on the pc versions, which takes the fun away from online play, this is harder on the console versions. I also never said multiformat games were better on either, but a multiformat game is usually produced at a set level for each version to suit the target audiences. If everyone had Pentium 2's games would be worked around a P2 cause its more profitable. Most game developers (unless its exclusive) look at designing their game to run on the lower spec'd system, as they know it will be a quick tranistion to the more powerful system. But i have a question, why bring the pc into a console argument ? if the article was "Would killzone 2 work on a pc" obviously the answer would be "yes and it looks better too"

# ??? — Miclowgunman 2009-04-02 13:30

If killzone only has good graphics, what games do you think have amazing graphics?

# Well it would be gameover — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 13:34

Just like if the 360 got there first, I cant see microsoft 1 pushing for the hardware or the developers as much as sony. Unfortunately I dont have all the time in the world to research everything about both consoles like you obviously do, I was unaware microsoft even had any plans, rumor or not :s

# Where doid you say BOTH?? — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 13:37

You never actually said "BOTH", to me, the post sounded like you were saying the ps3 was infact inferior to the 360, thats how it looked to me

# *sigh*.... please — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:39

i'm talking about the resolution the game actually RUNS at, which is 720p, whether you are running it 720 or 1080i. also, the textures in game have nothing to do with the resolution the game is output at.

"higher resolution + higher disc space."

higher resolution TEXTURES, not higher resolution screens.

take your PC for example. some gamers may only be able to run a game at 1024*768, but you may be able to run it at 1600*1200. So does the installed game magically grow in size on your hard drive compared to theirs? and some gamers can run it at even higher resolutions, and in future, gamers will be able to run that SAME game at resolutions not available today. again, the game doesn't change in size, the textures are exactly the same, the only difference is the resolution of the output, and so the game looks sharper on screen for higher resolutions.

# ok.... — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:44

but as you've seen, i did mention it, only you missed it. i shouldnt have to repeat that same fact everytime i mention the game. ;) :)

# lololololol — platypusrme427 2009-04-02 13:44

I have 360 and PS3, and I can honestly say this game looks amazing. But besides that it is a very generic shooter. So Call of Duty is still by far the better game, and since Xbox Live puts PSN to shame, there is nothing at all for 360 fanboys to be jealous of....

# Nice Argument :S — Nerveless89 2009-04-02 13:47

Can see your very interlectual, and I can see where your getting at, but guess well just have to agree to disagree :S before we flood this article. If ya have cod4 for for PS3, id be more than happy to show ya the ropes :P. My PSN is nerveless89

# Graphix — platypusrme427 2009-04-02 13:48

@Miclowgunman: I think he means the only thing going for the game is its graphics. Which I feel is almost spot-on.

# why mention the pc? — PS34ME 2009-04-02 13:56

because gamers often use the false claim that coding for a lower spec system holds back a more powerful system (usually applying this logic to 360 and ps3), whereas the reality is, where there's extra power available, devs can and DO use it. we see that with the pc, this gen and last, we saw that last gen with the xbox compared to the ps2 and gc (even with ps2 being the lead format for most games).

if rsx in the ps3 was twice as powerful as it is today, then without doubt ALL multiformat console games would look better, or perform better, or both on the ps3 compared to the 360, despite the 360 being the same and therefore no more holding back the hypothetical ps3 than today's ps3. :|

# and?...................... — decaden 2009-04-02 14:01

Um yea it could've been but it didnt so just close the book on that one Christian.

# thanks, i enjoyed it too. :) — PS34ME 2009-04-02 14:04

and good to see it didn't get personal (well, except for the 'noob' attack that i ignored ;)).

i'd enjoy joining you online for a game sometime, but i wont mention my psn here on qj (as it's very different to my alias here) ... but, you'll probably know me when the time comes. :)

cya

# well... — anhero 2009-04-02 14:50

Theoretically the game can be made for the 360, EVEN with better graphics (Anti-Aliasing, unified RAM, CPU ARchitechture, ect.). Still, that doesn't take the fact away that it would take like 3 disks (not that it's a big problem).

# Excerpt from the following article posted before — phiyuku 2009-04-02 15:00

Seb Downey has confirmed that Killzone 2 NATIVELY supports 1080i resolution.

I have even capitalized natively so you can clearly see it.

# What does Halo 3 do.. — RavenSPe 2009-04-02 15:40

that Killzone 2 doesn't do? I can't think of a single thing. And one reason Killzone 2 had more development time is because it was made from scratch, not to mention all the minute graphical details throughout the game. And Halo 3 is the second game using their "halo engine" and 3rd of the series with pretty much the same game play, so really it should have easily been graphically ahead at it's launch (And still comparable even now).

Anyway, it still sounds like they're a sub par developer if what this ONE ex employee says is true. I guess we'll find out in the future but I'm not going to waste my time speculating cause I really don't care.

# stop being an idiot. — NarooN 2009-04-02 16:00

KZ2's native rez is BOTH 720p and 1080i. Get over it, the devs themselves confirmed that long before the game even came out.

# ^ lol... — papajag 2009-04-02 16:38

360 will probably get RRoD trying to run Killzone 2. Yeah Sony suck at marketing.

# re: RavenSPe — blabbermouth 2009-04-02 16:43

Well for one lighting is no where near as good as KZ2, in fact no game on the 360 is.

Two, hit detection on enemy soldiers when you shoot them, a first for ANY game.

And 3. Volumetric Smoke. I have seen several PS3 games featuring volumetric smoke. And have yet to see ONE 360 game as of yet

# ^ In other words... — papajag 2009-04-02 16:43

You don't have a PS3. If you honestly compare the two (XBL and PSN) there is only a slight difference. Live doesn't put PSN to shame it's just better in some ways.

# Re:haru3173 — blabbermouth 2009-04-02 16:48

So in fragfest I guess that means you must think COD4 is TERRIBLE for mutliplayer then? And I disagree with by 360 winning by a long shot, KZ2 is the most fun I've had multiplayer console FPS in a LONG time. I'd say its the best FPS out there at the moment

# Re: — blabbermouth 2009-04-02 16:59

Nah I think its obvious already that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360.

I've yet to see a game on the 360 with the lighting KZ2 has or volumetric smoke, I've seen several games on the PS3 so far with volumetric smoke, Warhawk, Uncharted and KZ2. In the PS3s life so far I've seen it do more than the 360 already, who knows what will be done in a year or two.

# Re:platypursrme 427 — blabbermouth 2009-04-02 17:06

Achually I think KZ2 is the best FPS out there at the moment. Graphics are amazing, single player is decent and the multiplayer rocks. Its like a cross between COD4 and Team Fortress. Its the most fun I've had in a console FPS in a long time. I think the multiplayer for KZ2 is better than COD4.

# "...says ex-Bungie dev" — Scyiik 2009-04-02 17:22

I stopped reading there.

# Re:blabbermouth — haru3173 2009-04-02 17:23

How is COD4 a fragfest? I already reached General rank in KZ2 and all I see is explosions everywhere. Almost everyone uses assault class then spam their rocket launchers and grenades.

# @haru3173 — Scyiik 2009-04-02 17:42

To be honest, you don't even sound like you've played Killzone. The graphics are amazing, obviously, the story isn't anything "holy crap amazing!!11", but hell, I didn't ever find Halo's to be that good either, for example.

And a fragfest? Lol, no, not really. I don't know what games YOU'VE been joining (assuming you even have joined any.)

# i owned it and i sold it — Link75e 2009-04-02 18:28

Best graphics are with MGS4 but killzone 2 is good too. Difficulty of the game was real easy even in hard i thought the AI was supposed to be smart, i had more trouble in vegas 1 and 2 in medium. The storyline is the same as other games resistance, gears of war, halo nothing new with the storyline been their done that. Online is a joke i let my sister play and she was spraying guys left and right because theirs no skill to play the game not like vegas 2 where i get shot out of nowhere damn terrorists. KZ2 is like any other shooter except for CoD4mW that takes skill to get a nice head shot when some guy jumps off a ledge. But this is the best exclusive shooter on the ps3.

# blabbermouth — PS34ME 2009-04-02 18:42

never seen volumetric smoke in 360 games? so you've never played cod4 then? (and that's just one example off the top of my head.)

i'm not going to go through the list of games because volumetric smoke is nothing new in games.

# haru3173 — lokk 2009-04-02 18:44

why dont you join games that have the rocket launchers blocked?

# as for hit detection — PS34ME 2009-04-02 18:45

ask gamers who played the classic Goldeneye on the n64. kz2 simply takes it to a new level.

# Re: platypusrme427 — lokk 2009-04-02 18:47

how is killzone a generic shooter?

# KZ2 FTW — lokk 2009-04-02 18:49

The only way this game could have been made for the xbox is if the xbox was a ps3... get over it suckas.

# @blabbermouth — Addy771 2009-04-02 19:08

Just to prove that (since a lot of fanboys will disagree) the xbox 360 in total has 1 teraflop of floating point power, while the PS3 has 2 teraflops. That's 2 trillion floating point calculations per second.

# . — Addy771 2009-04-02 19:10

I highly doubt halo 3 would run on a pentium 1, considering the fact that the pentium 1 is missing a lot of the newer instruction sets, and the fact that no pentium 1 motherboard would have enough RAM for halo 3.

# so like i said, different requirements — PS34ME 2009-04-02 19:12

halo's levels are designed to be walked/ran over, driven over and flown over, giving greater degrees of freedom compared to killzone which is far more restricted. such freedom comes at a cost, since the more freedom you have within a level, the less 'realistic' it can look due to power/memory requirements (less room for 'tricks' and shortcuts).

vehicles in killzone are more about set piece action, rather than being intergral to the gameplay. hence it does not have the vehicle physics of halo 3, nor the degree freedom of movement within it's levels.

talking about physics, this is more about set pieces in kz2 whereas it's more part of the actual gameplay in halo 3, where physics (and freedom of movement) is demonstrated well in the levels created by gamers via the forge (lots of example on youtube, since i dont have a 360 to play h3).

kz2 is not doing all of this and *then some*, which is the point i was making about different requirements.

# fanboys — narutosaiyan 2009-04-02 19:19

why r u 360 fanboys in here talking crap about killzone? o wait u got nothing 2 play... oh n ps34me u sound like an xbot, ye cod4 was made by 2 teams but they made the games identical on purpose, they wouldnt make 1 version better than the other. also kz2 is way better than cod4 n at least u can turn off the assault class. in cod4 u cant stop guys 4rom running around with juggernaut n rpgs. also 360 games like gears use 3-4 light sources in a scene killzone use around 256. thats thx to the ps3s spu capacity... 360 doesnt hav that

# please cut the teraflops cr@p :) — PS34ME 2009-04-02 19:19

that has been debunked years ago. come on, do you *really* think the ps3 is twice as powerful?

and blabbermouth, kz2 is one of the latest games released and took 4 years and a massive budget to develope, so it *should* set new standards.

i mentioned about volumetric smoke already because it's nothing new and features in both 360 and ps3 games.

as for what's being done on the ps3, i see it more down to the talents of the devs than the power of the ps3 (which is only slightly more than 360 overall).

# please cut the fanboy finger pointing — PS34ME 2009-04-02 19:28

when you're talking like a fanboy yourself. i have a ps3 only, not a 360, but unlike many gamers, i dont cling to childish fantasies about what my ps3 is and what it can do. it's just a games console, brilliant in fact, but not head and shoulders above the 360.

if you're going to claim that ps3 multiformat games are held back to look like the 360 versions on purpose, then you're talking rubbish. since if that was the case, then although the games may _look_ the same, the ps3 version should _run_ better. it should have better framerates and less slowndown, but this doesn't happen. in fact, in most cases, it's slightly worse than the 360 version (which is annoying at times). :|

# fine NarooN — PS34ME 2009-04-02 19:49

i look forward to your explaination of why this is suppose to mean bigger textures and hence needs more space required as claimed.

# . — NarooN 2009-04-02 20:08

I wasn't talking about textures or disc space, dingbat. I saw an argument about the native res, and the fact of the matter is, it's 720p/1080i native.

# cut the insults please — PS34ME 2009-04-02 20:14

this is an a discussion which for the most part has been carried out in a mature manner.

# bleh.. — NathanDrake 2009-04-02 20:38

That's because the developers of multiplatform games get lazy and seem to do a simple port which doesn't make proper use of the more advanced hardware and in some cases end up making a worse version. There's no reason why Fallout 3, for example, should have been worse on the PS3 but it's down to Bestheda needing a kick up the backside.

Games history is full of lazy ports. Xbox and GC often got straight PS2 ports when those machines were a bit more powerful. Hell I remember the Amiga getting a ton of Atari ST ports without any changes and in some cases ran badly cos they just weren't designed for the Amiga to begin with to take advantage of the far better hardware.

# Re: karu3173 — blabbermouth 2009-04-03 00:20

How is it not? don't tell me people don't use grenades alot in COD4 because they do. I don't know how many times I get killed by a grenade in COD4. specially around choke zones like doors. How about maps like shipment, showdown and vacant? perfect examples of great spam and fragfest maps. Similar action happens in all the other maps but those are just the best examples. Seems to happen a bit in KZ2 also. I just think COD4 and KZ2 are quite similar in gameplay except been a bit slower, classes and leaning towards larger maps in KZ2. In KZ2 im up to Colonel but I don't seem to get too much trouble with rocket launches.

# See QJ — poopoopilot 2009-04-03 01:30

This is what you get when you post articles from "hip hop gamer".

"PS3 RULEZ BECUAZ IT LOOKS BETTAR ON MAH STOLEN TV!"

# sigh fanboys — sickofitall 2009-04-03 01:37

this guy only said this because he is SO impressed with KZ2. Why don't you name a 360 exclusive that looks better and has more going on at one time?

# @PS34ME — ~~ 2009-04-03 02:13

Do you even know what 'in a mature manner' means ?

NarooN made a valid point and suddenly you expect him to explain a total different matter ?

# @platypusrme427 — ~~ 2009-04-03 02:17

Why are you suddenly talking about PSN and Xboxlive ?

Killzone2 runs like a charm online, never experienced any lag or problems whatsoever, so I don't see how Xboxlive would suddenly improve the online experience of Killzone2.

# @ jomacho0 — ~~ 2009-04-03 02:20

And the fact that the PS3 doubles as a BluRay player.

# @Link75e — ~~ 2009-04-03 02:38

So... you say you can just shoot at random and still get headshots of people who are jumping off ledges in killzone2 ?

Please, stop making a fool out of yourself.

There is nothing wrong with the Killzone2 multiplayer. It has great customization, a good valor and clan system which keeps you coming back for more.

Saying that killing people in killzone2 online doesn't take skill, isn't a flaw with killzone2, it is the people playing online who suck, not killzone2 online.

# You missed my point — avatar76 2009-04-03 03:10

I know Halo3 couldn't run on a P1 looking anywhere near as good as it does on the 360, but that's not to say the game couldn't be made with major cut back in the graphics and audio department.

Not that I'm saying the 360 vs Pentium1 difference between the PS3 and 360 either, I was exadurating the point.

My point is this was a nothing story, the guy admits it might not look the same so why did he even bother to say it could be made on the 360. Or is that just isaac "PS3fanboy" C's bit on the end that says that it couldn't look the same. Sometimes it's hard to tell with his articles what is his interpretation and what the person he's reporting about is saying especially when it comes to PS3 vs 360 stuff.

Hey Isaac ever thought of trying to be impartial?

# W.E.... KZ2 can never be done on XBOX 360 — southsidexz 2009-04-03 03:14

Killzone 2 can be done on XBOX 360??

Not even, first of all XBOX still deals with old DVD's

PS3 deals with Blu-Ray which can hold up to 20gb if I'm correct.

Graphics, layout, would not be match to KZ2 of PS3. In PS3 for KZ2 you have 720p and 1080i. Xbox would probably offer crappy quality. Less features and stuff as there limited in space for DVD's. If Xbox did online for KZ2, that would be gay, what the screeen is gona say "Please Insert Disc 3 to play this map online"

I can go playing the Entire Story mode and Online without even having to move to go and exchange the disc. Xbox kz2 would be like oh man this game is nice! Awwww......damn now I have to Insert Disc 2.......

PS3 Way better! Boost up my HDTV, PS3, KZ2 at 720p, Surround Sound System, Crank the Volume Up and BAM! You got the best sound and video quality Ever.

Xbox 360 Don't hate and try to act like the though dude, just because PS3 has KZ2 and whooop everything you had.

Oh yea, XBOX 360, Where's your Game you had up your sleeve?????........... The one you guys say oh we don't care about KZ2 we have something even better up our sleeves.

Well I'm still waiting...................Nothing has Happened.........I guess XBOX was just trying to be the nerd who acts like a Bad Boy.

Oh and for the Guy who said KZ2 could be totally made on Xbox, well your mom can be made too. lolz

Its obvious you can make any game on any console, KZ2 on Wii, etc.... but you always face with Low quality game, thats why Guerrilla went with PS3! besides, Killzone has always been exclusive for PS3!

Oh yea just to throw things out, Killzone 3 is already being developed and guess who its gona be for? Xbox.......sigh... ItS FOR PS3! and Liberation 2 as well in development for PSP.

# ^^^ well obviously you don't — PS34ME 2009-04-03 03:24

'in a mature manner' means being able to have a discussion without calling people names (first he called me an idiot, then he called me a dingbat).

what makes you think that's mature behaviour?

# BAH! Great read! — noshoes84 2009-04-03 03:38

This is an awesome comment thread. Congrats to all the posters for all your dedication to the billion dollar company of your choice! They really appreciate all your inane comments and random google search "facts." They also appreciate the way you give them all your money and act like they really give a crap about you! So again, I want to extend my congrats to all you guys...Microsoft and Sony will be personally sending each of you a million dollars worth of bisexual hookers and beer/drugs for your dedication to their bank accounts.

# KZ2 aint that great — Link75e 2009-04-03 03:53

KZ2 is an okay shooter for the ps3 your just finally happy that for the 399 you shelled out for the ps3 you can now tell yourself it was worth it. I have both systems so ican enjoy the best games on both systems, i only enjoy 1 game on the ps3 and its MGS4. Instead of us fighting they should make a shooting game where 360 owners can challenge ps3 owners and for achievements and trophies it would be how many and how you kill them. that would be the best way to duel it out.360 owners would win cause ps3 online lags also 360 controller is better for shooters.

# but that's the point nathan — PS34ME 2009-04-03 04:22

"Games history is full of lazy ports. Xbox and GC often got straight PS2 ports when those machines were a bit more powerful."

those machines were a bit more powerful and as a result, their versions of multiformat games were usually better than the ps2, especially on the xbox, despite being mostly ps2 ports.

so saying ps3 versions of games are not as good as they should be because devs are lazy just doesn't hold up. if the same 'lazy' devs were able to get better results out of the xbox last gen, and those same 'lazy' devs can always get better results out of the pc, then there's no excuse for the ps3.

it comes down to the fact that the ps3 is similar to the 360 in terms of power (but slightly more for cpu), so multiformat games look similar between them as a result, which is why even when devs code for the ps3 first or put seperate teams to work on each console, the results are _still_ the same.

# .. — blkthunda 2009-04-03 05:21

Are you mad that people make comments in a forum site?

# thats all well and good — ackeejag 2009-04-03 06:27

They can say our exclusive title is possible on their system but it means nothing if they won't even make a new game. create something not halo or gears that looks better than killzone then come back and say stupid things. Too bad sony will have already published another game that looks even better. (Uncharted 2 is coming out soon.)

# LOL, contadict much? — lllegal Machine 2009-04-03 07:07

"create something not halo or gears that looks better than KILLZONE2" (a sequel)

"Uncharted 2 is coming out soon." (another sequel)

"but it means nothing if they won't even make a new game."

hahahahahah, oh wait...

MS4 isn't a sequel, is it? its a new game right?

right?

# for the spellcheck nazis — lllegal Machine 2009-04-03 07:09

MgS4 isn't a sequel, is it? its a new game right?

right?

# haha — Navani 2009-04-03 12:25

If they can do it .. that's great. If they can't .. That's okay too, I don't really care what system the game's on, if it's good, I'm going to get it!

# don't be stupid — ackeejag 2009-04-03 17:05

The reason I stress a new game is because they milk every good series they get to the death.

Halo had a SODA. A soda ffs. They are so unwilling to let of of it that they try and make it into a terribad RTS game (in before you opinion).

Same for Gears. Call it good marketing but there is only so much of a game being shoved down your throat you can take. It gets to the point that you have to wonder if there will be anything else. Right now I look at the 360 and the only reason I would consider buying one if for Gears 2 or halo 3. (both will probably be ported to pc soon)

Yes many of the good titles on the ps3 are sequels. But, I know that I won't have to keep playing that game for the next 2 years because they will make something better and more fun soon enough.

They keep saying oh we can do better than killzone. Oh killzone isn't so great.

But all they put up as something that can top it is gears 3 or halo 4. It gets old. Especially when you are talking about a generic shooter topping a generic shooter. Uncharted and MGS4 hardly fall under the generic shooter category so a sequal isn't as god awful a thing.

# RE: Link75e — southsidexz 2009-04-03 17:26

399, Worth it tho, I do alot of crap with the PS3, use it as a way to play all the videos on my PC and External HDD 1TB and pc 1TB. Music, Movies, Pictures, Games, passing music to my phone, PSP, etc......

Xbox 360 players will win??? HA! LMFAO! not even, first get your data right, PS3 Online doesn't Lag, it all depends what internet connection u have. Pssshhhh... me and my friends play KZ2 Never had a Problem with lagging or anything.

WarHawk never had a problem.

Etc....

360 better for shooters??? not really, You can dominate with any control basically, all it take is skills and knowing the controls.

It seems your the one who didn't enjoy investing your 399 bucks on your PS3 because you only Like MGS4.

Besides, XBOX 360 RING OF DEATH. HATE IT!

PS3??? No-Problems Hell Yea!!!

Need a repair on your PS3 because after years it broke or such, or a minor problem sent it to SONY, they can't fix it?? Price match what you paid and Bam BRAND NEW PS3 You get delivered to your house.

Xbox 360 only good game, Halo....... but really I perfer KZ2

Besides Guerilla said, its easier for the PS3 than to deal with PC Xbox360.

Oh and about that dueling it out......right.....Like if Microsoft is really going to tell Sony oh hey lets settle our difference by the gamers playing each other......Not Even.

Oh wait hold on watz this.....New Final Fantasy game for PS3 that is going to use almost full 100% capacity of the PS3! INSANE!

Wait........New God Of War Game!?? HOLLY *****! RAW AS HELL!!

And for your information I own both PS3 and Nope not XBOX 360, but the Wii.

Why does two?? PS3 Extreme Console, and Wii Family Entertainment that can really make some krazy times.

Xbox 360???.............umm............Nothing kool...

Blu-Ray??? oh wait....nope microsoft doesnt want tat.......

More HDD??? Wait.....Nedd to buy Official XBOX HDD.......

PSP capable?....nah.....XBOX.

Ring of death?? Yes sir its XBOX CONSOLE CREATED TO FAIL.

# ! — Matt-N 2009-04-04 01:04

This is the 100th post. You lot are a bunch of sad g33ks.

# hmm.. — ElfyEikkal 2009-04-04 02:42

i wonder if this will ease up the competition. say. if sony and microsoft decides to port their flagship shooters through both consoles. it'll be a real treat. sides. if there's one enemy all gamers should stand against. it is. JT. Jack Thompson. so. like they say. the enemy of my enemy is my friend. =)

# . — jesuschristmonkeyballs 2009-04-04 06:00

let me be the first to say.......RAVEL RAVEL RAVEL RAVEL!

# Yes blkthunda — noshoes84 2009-04-04 06:26

I am "mad" that people make comments on a forum site...only this isn't a "forum" it's a news site and I'm not mad I'm amused. Your comment was ingenious though! Thanks for your contribution!

# And who are you noshoes84? — KnowLedge 2009-04-04 08:37

I prefer his contribution over individuals like yourself, where instead of you actually discussing the topic at hand, you choose instead to sit upon your high horse pointing your finger and amusing yourself over the (false) belief that you're better than those you laugh in order to give your ego a boost.

There's actually a topic here being discussed (good posts and poor, as usual), so care to make a REAL contribution towards it, or would that be too much to ask?

# I agree with all you said PS34ME, but - — KnowLedge 2009-04-04 08:54

- You should have at least conceed the fact that KZ2 DOES support 1080i natively.

That said, you are still right on the main points you made, because the final resolution has little to do with the texture resolution or space required for the game.

Texture quality is decided by many factors, including the power of the GPU, the amount of RAM to hold those textures (the bigger the textures, the less can be held in RAM to render each scene), the time it takes to copy from disc (bigger textures take longer to load), and others.

So imagine if the PS3 (and TVs) could handle resolutions up to say a massive 5000 x 3000, that doesn't mean the textures in KZ2 would suddenly be 6-7 times bigger and more detailed, they would probably be EXACTLY the same as they are now (for performance and memory reasons), but the final on screen image would look significantly sharper.

I still like playing Quake 3 on the PC (don't laugh), but I'm playing it at resolutions WELL beyond those available when the game was released, where again nothing in the game has actually changed, it's the same textures, but the image looks incredibly sharp. :)

# The interesting thing about Jack Thompson — KnowLedge 2009-04-04 09:06

Is that he shares the same mentality as fanboys, where (like fanboys) he is blinded by his own narrow-minded biased beliefs.

He's an extremist, and hence has lost credibility in the eyes of many, including many of those who used to share his views. :|

# lol kz2>>>>>>>>halo — InTheZoneAC 2009-04-04 10:41

halo doesn't even come close to pushing any system to the limits.

the graphics, gameplay, physics, everything about it is average

kz2 exceeds everything halo does except get overrated like halo always has been.

kz2 would have to be dumbed down to play on 360 and halo3 would need a complete overhaul to even keep up with most modern FPS

# nah — PS34ME 2009-04-04 11:06

kz2 exceeds halo in some areas (mostly graphics, cutscenes), halo3 exceeds kz2 in other areas (gameplay physics, vehicles).

like i said before 'killzone is not doing everything halo 3 does and then some, but what it does do, it just it exceptionally well'.

# thanks knowledge — PS34ME 2009-04-04 11:14

ok, yeah i do conceed kz2 does 1080i, but people were making out this needs more disc space when it doesn't, which you explained better than i managed to do. so thanks again. :)

and people _still_ play quake3?

# lol — jmak0 2009-04-06 03:03

yeh, and if microsoft releases an xbox 360 that has blu-ray and a cell processor then anything's possible

# Obviously — Stealth! 2009-04-06 04:39

Killzone 2 could be made for the 360, but the thing is, it's a first party exclusive. So in the end, it won't happen. Killzone 2 is a very polished game, and quite frankly I even enjoyed Killzone 1(even though fanboys hyped it up and it failed in the eyes of many -_-). Killzone 2 doesn't do anything different or new. But it does accomplish when it sets out to do, which is a fantastic FPS which has an incredible online multiplayer. And the support GG has given the title which being hands on quick to notice any problems within the game is really impressive to me. So, while this could be interpreted as a fanboys statement, I have to agree that it can be possible, but as I said, it's an exclusive considering Sony are the publishers and I believe owns GG.

# ACTUALLY KnowLedge (used loosely) — noshoes84 2009-04-06 14:21

Neither myself, blkthunda, or YOU contributed to the "Discussion" (fangirlism) in anyway what so ever. You wanna know who I am? I random person on the internet that felt like talking crap because I was bored at work. But your right...I am better than you...I got paid to come here and troll. Have fun with those 5 little stars...don't forget to lube while your fapping to them. PS I hit the smiley for you...wouldn't want you to think your CONTRIBUTION was nothing more than a random comment on a video game website. HAHA!

# Proving your lack of reading skills — KnowLedge 2009-04-06 18:42

If you actually READ through this topic, you will see that I HAVE contributed to the discussion.

It really isn't difficult, simply scroll through this topic quickly and look for posts under the alias 'KnowLedge', or use search (Ctrl-F) if that's too difficult for you. There now, wasn't that easy? :)

So once again, I'll ask you the same question "care to make a REAL contribution towards it, or would that be too much to ask?" ;)

# Oh yea! — gamepro1 2009-04-07 05:14

Halo 4 can be done on ps3. What is Christian Allen trying to prove? He likes the 360 better? Guess so. Its the same as the playstation dev (cant remember name) saying "Halo 3 and Gears of War could be done on ps3"

# Wow — TomN34 2009-04-07 09:36

Who gives a ***** what console is better....I have all the consoles, and there all good in their own way. Damn.

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