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Japanese developers to focus on Wii over PS3

Posted May 14, 2007 at 5:05PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: IGDA, Japan, playstation 3 updates, Sony
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According to a report by the Los Angeles Times, the game just isn't going "Sony's way" this time around. Publishers, analysts and even PlayStation 2 gamers have claimed that there's something just not right about the PlayStation 3, and it clearly takes form in it being in last place.

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Supposedly being Sony's successor to the still popular PS2, the PlayStation 3 still has a lot of ground to cover: it has to beat the PS2's still growing sales point, overtake Microsoft's early bird Xbox 360, and divert developer attention from the lower priced and mass-market appealing Nintendo Wii.

Top of the news report however, is the fact that Japanese developers are looking down on the PlayStation 3. Kyoshi Shin of the International Game Developers Association in Japan mentioned that many developers were now focusing on developing for the Wii, since it has higher probability of selling to more customers, provided its humongous user base.

"When people talk about the PS3 on chat forums, they say it's like going to a very expensive restaurant and not getting anything to eat," Shin said. The temperamental Eastern sentiment is shared by the Japanese chapter of the IGDA, although no one is ruling out the possibility that the PlayStation 3 can still win.

Analysts have stated time and time again that Sony needs to place short term changes in their strategy to augment their long term performance. Since the PlayStation 3 has a lifetime of 10 years, the console should beat the competition by half that time - about the same time Microsoft and Nintendo put out their new consoles for the next five-year generation.

"It's clear Sony is struggling with PS3 sales. The key question is: how is Sony going to persuade those 100 million PS2 owners to buy the PS3?" said Geoff Keighley, editor of GameSlice. The major sentiment is that Sony boost the console's immediate value by dropping the price point to manageable standards. In short, they suggest a price cut.

According to sources, Sony already loses money on every PlayStation 3 sold, so it wouldn't hurt for Sony to lose a little bit more to immediately distribute its console to install a larger hardware base than the competition. This is Sony's primary strategy after all: "lose money or break even selling consoles but make loads of cash selling games." Question is, when will they start?

Via Los Angeles Times



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# ...Guest 2007-05-14 18:10
So developers wont make games for the PS3 because of the small user base ( or whatever its called )....



And people dont want to buy the PS3 because of the lack of games on the PS3...



Anyone else see the problem here?

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# to most gamersQuixand 2007-05-14 18:21
the wii is like the macarena... people like it for ten minutes... and then afterwards are even ashamed to admit in public that they liked it...



even the casual pips who liked the wii and had some initial laughs has it collecting dust in their house...



if developers want to aim for the "long term" they need to maximize the PS3.

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# It would be if Sony didn't have the largest number of 1st and 2nd party developersGuest 2007-05-14 18:33
I don't blame developers, the spiralling development costs of the 360 and PS3 are quite a bit more than on the Wii.





On the Wii you can get away with very simple games, which are made fun just by the control scheme, and will sell due to the differences in demographics.





So called hardcore gamers have to realise they are in the minority by a mile now.

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# NoGuest 2007-05-14 18:44
People are not ashamed. The ones that are, are the fanboys that played the nintendo wii and and saw how fun it actually was. And i agree with you that it doesn't last long but that is due to the lack of games which will clear up eventually.

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# 666Guest 2007-05-14 18:46
I don't hear people talking about how fun the Wii is. I guess it really isn't fun. F uck cheap devs!

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# ah Don Quixote my friendQuixand 2007-05-14 18:50
i agree with you there...



but developers also show study the said demographic that the wii appeals to... most the the casual people don't really by that many games... sometimes the life of the console will be finish but these people has bought only two games the entire time... i know countless people who only has one game on their PS2 and they couldn't care less...



for the wii people don't but all the party games out there... they have one or two or five and then they are set for life... they don't go for the "complicated" games... and how many serious gamers would prefer to play these games on the wii??? they would rather have a go with it on the 360 or PS3 unless it's exclusive... and if it is exclusive on the wii what percentage of that install base are actual gamers??? cause only that percentage will be their market not the entire wii pie.



if they release a good game on the wii, most of wii owners wouldn't even know about this game even if it's a famous franchise and they couldn't care less... they are having fun with their current games which will last them for a couple of years..



but release a good game on the PS3... let's see what percentage of PS3 owners buy that game!!!!! man, gamers buy games... that's what they do!!! i've bought sports games year after year even when the only noticeable change is the roster!!!



they are just fulling themselves in thinking the the wii market is this whole pie which they can continuously bite away at... i've got a wii cause people like it... i've got three games and i don't think i'll be buying more and i know i'm not the only one, not by a long shot...

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# sorry guysQuixand 2007-05-14 18:57
upon reading it again... i made a lot of typo...

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# Nintendo this. Sony that.Guest 2007-05-14 20:07
I'm in a fortunate position to own 2 consoles. Wii and PS3. And both have their good and bad points.



However, I think the Wii is a bit of a 'one trick pony'. It isn't especially accurate when you swing your wiimote (take Tiger Woods for example). Having said that, the PS3 is a bit steep for the price of a Games console, but you have to consider it's ability as a DVD Blueray player (with the remote, rather than the joypad).



In my book the PS3 edges past the Wii. I'm no hard-core gamer. I'm a family man with 2 kids and yet the Wii is not switched on half the amount of time that the PS3 is and I only have 2 retail games for the PS3 compared to 7 for the Wii.



Still, I think Sony is having a hard time bcause they are trying to force the public into using their technology the way that Sony wants them to use it. Er, PSP and UMD Movies anyone?



History tells us that is not always the way. If Sony was to remain open and be seen to support their customers in the ways that their customers want to use their products, it would do them the world of good. I know their are the issues of copyright and piracy and I'm not condoning such areas as copyright theft and piracy. But there are means and ways to try to overcome such issues. You will never eradicate it completely, but Sony should should not be seen as targetting their customers whilst tackling such issues.



By taking the correct approach, Sony could easily turn this all around and be back on top.



I'm not bashing Nintendo or Sony, I'm a supporter of both.

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# jackassGuest 2007-05-14 22:06
you really know "countless" people who have a ps2 and 1 single game for it ? Also I love how the Wii isn't for the "hardcore" because it didn't follow suit beefing up the graphics. So no "hardcore" games exist for any system weaker than the Wii ? You really think that with the mass of jap support, the Wii won't get "hardcore" titles ? And shove that macarena ***** up your ass, PS3 will be the "macarena" of consoles 10 years down the road when MS and Nintendo release (I'm guessing) way more powerful systems. Of course, if sony decided to remove their heads from their asses, PS3 would be cheaper, have way more jap support and be #1 right now.

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# Well duh...Guest 2007-05-14 22:07
I'd say one of the most obvious reasons why devs would make games for the wii is because its so much cheaper! The wii isn't, and shouldn't be considered next gen, so devs don't have to work as hard to make a game that will run well on the wii's hardware. Also, they can port ps2 games and sell them off as next gen. Really, its a good strategy for the short term, but I believe that this will hurt the quality of games in the longrun.

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# THE REAL FACTS WHY THEY HAVE GONE FOR THE WIIGuest 2007-05-14 22:07
Get to the real facts, The PS3 is failing in its former stronghold of Japan.



It has NO games in the top 50 Japanese chart and the hardware sales are as follows -



PS3 weekly sales - 14,819



Nintendo Wii weekly sales - 101,254



And this weeks software sales -



Nintendo Wii - 325,619



Xbox 360 - 13,945



PS3 - 10,412



There are the real reasons why they are going to the Wii and in Europe there are huge amounts of people waiting for the Wii to become widely available you just cant find them.




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# ur a sad sad manQuixand 2007-05-14 22:40
can only afford a wii (which i also have by the way) cause the thing is just pocket change... my PS3 even though it's heaps more expensive is a better buy...



and why is the wii so cheap??? cause it's crap... for casual gamers it's ok... have some laughs... but for people who has invested their next gen gaming life on the wii (probably idiots like you) you guys could start a charity cause morons like you are just so pathetic.



and yes i know people who have bought playstations 2 cause it has become a livingroom fixture and bought a game or two with the console and never bought another one... it's very common you a'hole!!!! stupid idiot!

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# It's all about marketingGuest 2007-05-15 00:06
This time round Sony got the marketing wrong. Nintendo got it right. END OF.

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# Also I love how the Wii isn't for the "hardcore" because it didn't follow suit beefing up the graphics.Guest 2007-05-15 02:12
"Also I love how the Wii isn't for the "hardcore" because it didn't follow suit beefing up the graphics."





You're in denial. Wii isn't for hardcore gamers cause it doesn't support HDTV resolutions, 5.1/7.1 surround sound, advanced processing power WHICH AFFECTS FAR MORE THAN JUST GRAPHICS YOU IGNORANT DOLT.

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# WOOOOWGuest 2007-05-15 03:01
I'm even MORE fortunate to own ALL 3 *****ING NEXT GEN'S, take that *****. I got more cash than u do mother*****er, yes i do and you know it *****

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# I wonderGuest 2007-05-15 03:07
how people can reach so cheap conclusions only looking at early sale numbers.



Mark my words, PS3 will destroy Wii in the long run even in Japan. Nobody takes into account factors like brand loyalty, first party lineup, third party lineup (FFXIII will NEVER be in Wii nor MGS4, nor BioHazard V*), infinitely more powerful, and future proof, hardware. Everybody can see ninty titles dominating week after week the top ten spots but none looks into what matter most, the top most expected games for Japaneses gamers, almost all belong to PS.



It's pretty funny, many Ninty kids were celebrating the "dead" of PSP but now we see how 2007 will be a wonderful year for the Sony handheld, FFVII:Crisis Core anyone, God of War?, plus a bunch other titles will push PSP sales to the sky.



*This is not a PS exclusive but xbox is dead in Japan. With BioHazard we see how the graphic weakness of Wii is striking back, CAPCOM simply couldn't do a decent Wii port of BioHazard V.

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# this is what I thinkqwerty2626 2007-05-15 04:05
When a company brings out a multi platform game, it just stops the developers from giving the game graphics worthy of the ps3.

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# Stupid advertisinggod0fgod 2007-05-15 04:26
Sony can start by killing their advertising team and getting rid of that stupid "This is living" thing. Ad should contain more facts about the PS3 to get people interested.

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# Another rumor from QJGuest 2007-05-15 04:48
the article is not back up by any evidence, an assumed sourcedoes not prove anything.

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# ...Guest 2007-05-15 04:49
As a Wii owner and having lots of friends who have the wii, I have noticed a growing trend between us all.



The Wii is the most anticipated console of the three due to its innovation in the gaming market. But an innovation can only last a while until it gets boring and something you just live with when gaming (e.g rumble).



It is because of this that the Wii will sell millions to gamers who want to try it first hand, but the lack of 'real' (i use the term real loosly) games shows that this 'fad' will soon die down just as many other fads did.



It because of this that the Wii may face major trade-in's and such due to the fact it cannot grasp an over 15+ year old's attention for more than a few hours. Unlike the 360 and the PS3 which are multimedia, the Wii unforutnatly is not, and motion will only grasp peoples attention for a while, as I and many people I know who have a wii know personally.



The Wii will have no room on the gaming market, in the next few years, and will be more focused of children and non-gamers, whereas most gamers will go for the main option and get some power under the hood.

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# hmmGuest 2007-05-15 04:51
hmm have you jst pulled those figures out of your ass?

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# cool price dropGuest 2007-05-15 06:40
I hope the price drop will be in a mounth because I will buy a ps3 then.

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# Why?Guest 2007-05-15 07:52
I don't really hear people talking about how fun the PS3 is either. I just hear them trying to justify the $600 they spent. It doesn't seem like a very convincing argument either. Folding protien? No thanks.

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# YAY~kniteowl 2007-05-15 09:42
Wow I can't believe other people feel the same way I do. I also feel that the Wii, while interesting, is only made for short term impact... Right now everyone wants one, while its still fresh and gimmicky, but once the novelty wears off people are going to trade up. At least Nintendo is making tons of money out of the people who bought Wii's and will continue to do so for a period of time. Meanwhile, I'll be getting a PS3 cos I'm gonna be in for the long haul, and I have faith that long term the PS3 is going to develop into something wonderful.

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# 10 years down the road...kniteowl 2007-05-15 09:49
Er, Mr "jackass"... you're too naive and shor tsighted to be saying any of that stuff... What leads you to believe that just because Sony says that their consoles will have a life of 10 years, that they won't develop a new one for the next generation in about 5-6 years time?



The PS2's old generation, going on 7 years... and it can probably have a 10 year lifespan. But WAIT!?! What's this? a PS3??? Even before the 10 year lifespan is up? OMG NOWAI~



Seriously, go back to playing your Wii. Enjoy the gimmick while you still can...

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# I agree... somewhatkniteowl 2007-05-15 09:54
I agree that Nintendo had the right marketing strategy. The problem with them having the right marketing strategy is the number of people who are gonna get shafted after purchasing a Wii and couple of years down the track starting to feel jaded about the whole "motion control" business...

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# Dear Noin...kniteowl 2007-05-15 09:57
Too bad that even with " ALL 3 *****ING NEXT GEN'S", you can't hide the truth...



You have a small P3N1S

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# Yeahkniteowl 2007-05-15 10:06
I wouldn't say that people are ashamed. What's there to be shameful about for liking something that seems fresh. And I agree with you that more games would help the Wii feel fresh (and more devs wanting to work for cheap on the Wii can only help the Wii)...



Even then, I feel that the Wii won't have lasting appeal because people are going to get used to the motion control business... At which time - MS and Sony will probably come out with some peripheral to cash in on a new fad or something like that (case in point for last gen - Eyetoy)

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# yea!Guest 2007-05-15 11:24
i feel the same way! you can 't have GTA and DMC on the wii. Those are real games, not some hulla hoop or jump rope game. Finally, other people who share my views!

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# Advertising gone badGuest 2007-05-15 12:04
I agree with getting a new advertising team. Sony needs to explain all that the PS3 and PSP can do. They need to say that PS3 is linux OS/ Web browser/ movie player/ stereo/ game console rolled into one($600 computer). The PSP is a mp3 player/ movie player/ mobile game device (the new Walkman). Alot of adults think they are JUST GAMING CONSOLES and go for the cheaper ones(DS + Wii). Sony need to set them straight. They need to explain what they are getting for that price.

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# Look at Nintendo's record of exclusive meta-depth.Sinborn 2007-05-15 13:36
Nintendo itself isn't very hardcore, wii or not. The only games that Nintendo's systems have that cater to true competitive play are the Smash series and Pokemon. In reality, most highly competitive titles aren't fun initially and go against Nintendo's "fun" mindset. The blame needs to be thrown elsewhere.

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# The ps3Guest 2007-05-15 19:29
is still just gettin in the water per say....Let think back to when the 360 launched it was goin thur the same thing 400 price tag was heavy to alot of ppl and nobody wanted a core system cuz it was pointless.The games were bad wat was you playin till gears of war came out ...Call of duty 2 and Graw everything else was lame but now it sells.With more titles coming along im pretty sure sells will pick up we have just wat now resisteince and ridge racer 7 everything else isnt soo good and the bad ubisoft ports have to stop.When the ps3 gets its "Gears of war" i guess you could say youll see a diff.As for the wii if fun for a week im one of the ppl who got one to try it out then ebayed it for 650 cuz its flair just wore off no one rele wants to wave a remote while playin a game let nintendo have their trend cuz thats all it is a trend

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# NonsenseOutsider 2007-05-15 22:53
I'm not interested in boring, simple, old gen wii games. Nothing can replace Playstation 3 and the games that are coming for it. So what if Ps3 at the moment doesn't have many great games. by the end of the year things will definitely change. I'm tired of playing super mario bros and zelda.

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