Independent studios lift HD-DVD over Blu-ray in Europe |
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The battle for next-gen format supremacy rages on as HD-DVD takes the lead in the European front by virtue of positive reception shown by independent studios.Studio Canal, Filmax, Pathe and 32 others have decided to use Toshiba's medium for carrying High-Definition material. The Blu-ray disc brings a much more hefty storage capacity to the table with 50GB of space so that everything fits in. However, Blu-ray players can run the cost of about US$ 900, making it hard to purchase for the average user.
Analysts say that the battle is still in its early stages and anything can still happen. The price point lure of the HD-DVD is met by the PS3 strategy from Sony. By selling next-generation consoles, Sony also racks up the ownership of Blu-ray players as the game machine uses that specific drive. This is reminiscent of the Netscape-Internet Explorer war a decade ago, with Microsoft ending up as the winner by bundling IE to Windows. Blu-ray still has the advantage in North American markets, though.
"I have met much more commitment from partners involved with HD-DVD than Blu-Ray. I met Sony in mid-2006 but the support was far below what was offered by the HD-DVD partners," said Rudolphe Buet of Studio Canal.
On a side note, Sony and Toshiba once worked together with IBM to develop the PS3's proprietary Cell Processor for the high-end game machine.
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Ummm who are these people? I highly doubt they will make any big change in this market with more of the MAJOR studios supporting BD.
More BS, I can't find very many Hd DVD's in my town. mostly Blu-rays
"Blu-ray players can run the cost of about US$ 900, making it hard to purchase for the average user"
Feb 26
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=124
you can get the latest Blu-Ray player for 599$ wich is the same price as a HD-DVD player
Both are doing really really really bad at the moment. There is still as good a chance of them both failing.
And here, the are absolutely no Blu-ray discs.
With the confirmed revision of the Blu ray media to include the new sun java aspect many of the early adopters of the £1000 systems will not be able to play any of the newer blu ray discs after this revision is included in every new disc. Personally after that kick in the teeth id be switching to HD DVD.
The big point is Both dedicated machines are selling poorly with the Blu Ray in last place, DVD9 is the householders chosen format the others are just fighting for scraps...
That's what happens when sony rushes out an unfinished media format. Of course the idiots who bought a $1000 blu ray player can probably easily afford a new one.
It doesn't matter how many studios support it. If it's not affordable and consumers aren't interested it's not going to take off any time soon. HD-DVD players are already available for cheaper with the $500 Toshiba player and the $500 20gb PS3 basically discontinued. HD-DVDs are also cheaper to make so just when the PS3 fantards say blu ray won HD-DVD is just getting started.
I still remember that sony tool Phil Harrison saying blu ray won after 2 weeks of better sales. He also said he thinks blu ray will take over in a few weeks like with DVD. What a dumbf*ck!
Less than 1% of movie players sold are for HD formats.
The American market with the major studios should start supporting HD-DVD more now that the triple layer 100 gig HD-DVD is coming out later this year. The reason these guys chose it over Blu-Ray (i.e. BD), is not only due to price, but also that HD-DVD allows for more extras without compromising quality. All that's happening on Blu-Ray is "uncompressed audio" which is equivalent to HD-DVD's TrueHD, and more multiple language offerings, and that's it. Quality-wise, Blu-Ray is more saturated in color and looks more grainy. The other reason is HD-DVD allows for DVD9 on one side as well.
HD-DVD players are already cheaper. Advertised for $499 in Circuit City 2 weeks ago.
Is that $599 blu ray player compatible with the latest standards or do you have to buy a new one in a few months when they change it again?
HD-DVD supporters won't admit that or even acknowledge it since it doesn't support "their" theories....
Again, I see only 1 small studio saying 1 small thing about *their* own choice. How is that really going to affect anything.....
both HD-DVD and Bluray fail.
Pirating movies....i mean digital distribution should take over after DVD.
lol
are a joke
QUOTE> That's what happens when sony rushes out an unfinished media format.
What are you talking about, BR has been around in the professional industry since 2004 mainly used as a tape streamer as the read speeds were never quite good enough for the broadcast industry they were being used for. Probably also why Japan only uses BR thanks to the abundance of blank BR media that is available out there.
Unfortunately though Sony is still using codecs from just as far back, and probably the reason why Europe (Movie-philes) that they are are going toward HD-DVD.
While BR may have capacity on it's side, HD has the codecs, speed, and production costs to win out in the independant market, mainly as they don't have to spend an arm and a leg sourcing thier content to someone else to put to market, unlike HD where a publisher can use existing tools at a vastly reduced cost.
This 'war' is not going to end anytime soon, so why is everyone jumping up and down.
i actually saw a hd-dvd player for the very first time a couple weeks ago... in the philippines!? i've only seen PS3s and Blu-Ray players here in hawaii.
Remember that blue ray and hd dvd are both able to upgrade their firmwares so I dont think any player will be unsupported since that is only a software upgrade and not a hardware upgrade.
Wrong, its only 51 gigs, get your story straight!
Then they should have had time to finalize the compression formats and the sun java support. If blu-gay was around that long, there's just no excuse for that.
Idiot
each HD-DVD disc layer is 15GB,toshiba managed to squize it more and acheive 17GB per layer
100GB would be 6 layers not 3 [noob]
this will also increase the cost of the disc greatly,which is the only advantage that HDDVD had
Blu-ray is 25GB per layer and more can be acheived
the Only format that can acheive 100GB per disc is Blu-ray
this Reply is not to Dj Natas its to the Moron Above
He's right about HD-DVD. Admit that is why you can't come up with a retort other than "lol" and "you sir are a joke". Pretty foolish of you both and quite mentally retarded as well.
Borders UK seems to be Blu-ray only along with a few other UK retailers so that really says it all.
i have not seen ONE, let me say that again, i have not seen ONE hd-dvd player anywhere all i see is blu-ray players in electrical stores and ps3's with big adverts saying blu-ray on them, they are showing the ps3 off as a blu-ray player
25gb, 17 100 250, it dont matter cause this is the most flaued argument ever ... ps3 has been in NA since november and in europe since late march ... ppl in europe bought hd dvd players prolly from past and now buy hd dvds ... y would they buy blu rays if hd dvd is cheaper
Blu-ray postives
supports java
Among the differences: the Blu-ray format holds 25 gigabytes to 50 gigabytes of data with additional capacity possible to 200 gigabytes. HD DVD holds 15 gigabytes to 30 gigabytes with a maximum of 60 gigabytes. The content partnerships favor Blu-ray, which has all of the major movie studios, except for Universal Pictures, backing it along with consumer electronics and computer companies LG Electronics, Panasonic, Samsung, Apple and Dell. HD DVD has Universal Pictures in its corner along with Intel and Toshiba. A few industry players, such as Hewlett-Packard, Paramount and Warner Bros., have pledged support for both formats.
Forrester Research analyst Ted Schadler said in a research note on October 5, 2006, that Blu-ray will win out because it has more support, with over 100 manufacturers compared to HD DVD's 10. According to Schadler, Dell, Apple and Sony will ship PCs with Blu-ray drives. HD DVD has Toshiba in the PC fold. "This deeper support will translate into a broader assortment of products, more retail shelf space and a bigger marketing budget," he said, adding that the Playstation 3 will also make inroads for Blu-ray.
However, content is also important. Schadler predicts that Blu-ray will eventually have more movie titles due to its broader support from the studios. "Content is key. The new formats are (for now) read only. This makes content even more important than in Betamax vs. VHS,
Not everyone is in the Blu-ray camp, however. Werbach questions whether either side will win. It's unclear, he says, why consumers will want a physical disc when they will have digital distribution for high-definition movies through either Microsoft's Xbox or cable operators who have invested in video on demand. In addition, Werbach says that as storage densities increase, PCs or digital video recorders could bundle dozens of movies on hard drives with automatic downloads for more titles. The next-generation DVD players had a window of opportunity if they could have delivered a single standard at reasonable cost, but I suspect they have missed it,
supports dvd
supports mpeg 2 4 and vg-1
http://news.com.com/Blu-ray+vs.+HD+DVD+Knoc
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Rewritable BD-RW discs, with similar features to Panasonic's current DVD-RAM discs, can play back content while recording to the disc at the same time. Also, Sony owns Columbia Pictures and recently bought MGM, which gives it a leg up on releasing content. And PlayStation 3 certainly will carry a huge chunk of clout in the marketplace.
Disadvantages: Real or not, the biggest knock against Blu-ray is that the discs -- initially, at least -- will be more costly to produce than HD DVD media (Sony claims otherwise).
HD DVDs carry the same basic structure as current DVDs, so converting existing DVD manufacturing lines into HD DVD lines is supposedly simple and cost effective. Memory-Tech, a leading Japanese manufacturer of optical media, stated that producing HD DVD discs would initially cost only 10 per cent more than for existing DVDs and that it could quickly bring the cost down to match that of standard DVD.
HD DVD simply can't boast the same storage capacity as Blu-ray. It's confusing, but it appears that the rewritable HD DVD-RW will go up 32GB, while the recordable HD DVD-R discs will only be single layer (15GB). The other downside is that with Sony holding the rights to Columbia Pictures and MGM movie and television libraries, there will probably be a hole in HD DVD's content offering -- don't expect to see MGM/UA's James Bond movies on HD DVD, for example.
the Blu-ray Disc Association recommends that Blu-ray Disc drives should be capable of reading standard DVDs for backward compatibility. For instance, Samsung's first Blu-ray Disc drive can read and write CDs, regular DVDs, and Blu-ray Discs. All other Blu-ray Disc players released support DVD playback as well. This includes Sony, Panasonic, Philips, LG, Pioneer and PC-based players from Alienware, Sony, and Dell. LG has also produced a player that is