i wonder when we'll start seeing games that actually max out the PS3, those will be awesome.

god of war 3 could b one, but really when games will start maxing out ps3 is when they will stop porting 360 games

Only developers with huge budgets will ever tap into the full power.

cant wait to see the games that really use 100% of the ps3's power, im guessing GOW3 uses about the same then as there both using the same engine,



we probs wont see games using the full power, untill 2010 i recon

Right now all Sony has to do is look just as good as the 360. If they want a 10 year lifespan the graphics are gonna improve gradually. Or I just think I'm smart and they really dont know how to use the full power.

to those who thinks M$ will pop it's next console soon, LOL. Not at all. They won't pop a new console before end 2k10, and I'd say (my opinion) 2k12 if they keep their market share, and 2k11 if they loose it (if sony take it back). I think sony will take it back with console sellers like god of war 3 in the US and white knight chronicles/FFvs13 in Japan.

It is a safe bet to say that regardless of when, MS will release their next console b4 the PS4 launches...but PS3 will be producing very high end games and MS may have the same problem as it did transitioning from xbox to 360...that games only look marginally better. I suppose this all depends on how many changes they make to the architecture again.



PS4 will most likely not have this problem, as the chances are Sony is going to stick with Cell, just with more SPU's and a higher frequency...meaning dev's can continue to use the techniques that they developed for PS3, but just use more of them....



If MS is smart, they will do the same thing, stay with the PPC architecture, but with more cores/higher frequency.....but we'll see, they may switch to one of the newer CPU's by intel at that time, which may leave dev's having to re-learn the system again.

Zomg. What does the Scouter say about Killzone 2's Visual Power Level?!

ITS OVER 9 THOUSAND!!!!!!! !

Because Xbox can't handle that much awesomeness. Maxing out PS3+ Maxxing out Xbox 50 times over. So, they obviously have to be ps3 exclusive

Just hearing that makes me feel that much better because all those Xbox fan boys that are like 360 has better graphics, thats only because the only games they have to compare are the multiplatform games that are molded to the 360 then to the PS3. So they take less time working on it for the PS3. When we get our own Titles (MGS4, Resistance 2, Killzone 2) theres nothing to compare it with because the 360 couldn't even run these games in the first place.



PS3 will soon show its true power then 360 fan boys can eat a big fat sweaty *****.

having 256, 512, 1024 etc players on you PS3 is still rendering as much as it need to present on the screen. Look at the trailer of the new KUF it has easily several hundreds of soldiers fighting on the screen. The number of player hurts the server and bandwidth as the server need to deal with all these transmission and update everyone per frame. Look at Socom. The slow down is NOT from your PS3 but more from the network servers.

From what I know, devs should only have 6 cores to work with...

1 is disabled for better chip yields (ie Sony has to deal less with cell chips that get 1 defective core) and another is reserved by the PS3 OS

it's the Cell Processor + 7 SPE's. SPE's are for multitasking. so you have one SPE taking care of sound streaming while the other one for physics, etc.



you saying that one is reserved for the ps3's OS is wrong. it's that case for ps3's Linux. you see, if you installed another OS on the ps3, that OS won't be able to access the ps3's main processor because of security purposes, therefore, you can't actually play graphic-intensive games on Linux ps3.



devs have all the freedom in the world with the Cell. it's just that, abusing the processor also means developing a game using a multi-threaded processor. the final product would be top-notch, but the development time will increase two or threefolds as opposed to developing a ame for a single thread processor. and with the ps3 having 7 spe's, lol. it'll take alot of time and alot of programmers to abuse that power. imagine not having to worry if an in-game explosion will lag since the tasks are distributed to the SPE's, not to mention the endless capacity of the blu-ray.

5.5 game + 0.5 sony sound + 1 sony os/security/drm + 1 burnt out + 8

Microsoft need to be really careful about launching the successor to the 360... if they release it too early then developers are going to struggle to take advantage of the hardware... Games are currently ridiculously expensive to create (Which is why there are so few top-tier releases for either the PS3 or Xbox360 currently) and upping the graphical expectations is just going to up the expense of developing games (which may serve as a barrier to many developers who'll more likely continue to work on the PS3's readily established userbase... assuming Microsoft abandon the 360 like they did with the original Xbox)...

If Microsoft release the next console several years before the PS4 then they'll likely have a major disadvantage hardware wise...

Heck, they might decide to go the other way around releasing the neXt-box after the PS4 (which is less likely) to reap the benefits of better hardware, but would have to play catchup, similarly to how they did in their first generation and how the PS3 has had to do with the Xbox 360...



All Armchair Semantics



I'm sure we'll be seeing excellent titles coming out on the PS3 for a long time to come, and once the Xbox 360 cannot compete with the higher end PS3 titles they'll just have to find other ways to innovate and compete..