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EULA lets Sony tinker with your PS3 without your permission |
Listed in: PS3 Tags: firmware, playstation 3 updates, PlayStation Network, Sony
A lot of you may have upgraded to the latest firmware by now, and I bet a big slice of those who did didn't even bother with the mass of text that came with it. While most of us prefer to just get it over with and skim past all the legal hubbub, a UK news blog actually read the accompanying EULA (End User License Agreement). What they found is a little unsettling.
Usually, we just skim through the text and find the nearest route to the accept button so we can get the download done ASAP - we've got games to play. But since the controversial Other OS removal from the last system update, news blog Thinq decided to take a closer look.
The point of concern lies in Section 3, Services and Updates:
From time to time, SCE may provide updates, upgrades or services to your PS3™ system to ensure it is functioning properly in accordance with SCE guidelines or provide you with new offerings.
Some services may be provided automatically without notice when you are online, and others may be available to you through SCE's online network or authorized channels. Without limitation, services may include the provision of the latest update or download of new release that may include security patches, new technology or revised settings and features which may prevent access to unauthorized or pirated content, or use of unauthorized hardware or software in connection with the PS3™ system.
Additionally, you may not be able to view your own content if it includes or displays content that is protected by authentication technology. Some services may change your current settings, cause a loss of data or content, or cause some loss of functionality. It is recommended that you regularly back up any data on the hard disk that is of a type that can be backed up.
What's concerning here is that as soon as you login, Sony will legally have the right to toy around with your PS3. Without your permission, without limitation. Even worse, there could be a loss of data and functionality.
The clause, however, has been present in previous EULAs. With that in mind, Sony may have been exercising that right for a long time now. Naturally, you can refuse to update and render yourself unable to go online - that would be, in a sense, taking features out as well. So which will it be? Update and play entirely by Sony's rules? Or refuse and have your online features shut out?
Thinq [via GamePolitics]
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at the very least, i just hope sony doesn't screw anything up with my playtime.
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If you aren't a gamer anymore, then Y do you bother to comment on a site about videogame news??
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If you're such an Xshit 36Fail lover, then why are you commenting in here?
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L.A.M.E.
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Nothing in that quote even comes CLOSE to what 'tinkering with your PS3' actually means.
They say 'SERVICES may be provided automatically without notice'. A SERVICE would be Sony providing you something tangible. It has nothing to do with changing your system.
It also says SOME services.
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correct me if i'm wrong but aren't services intangible? a service is something you can't hold or touch.
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yall gonna have to excuse my lil retarded friend isohaven, he was born that way, forgive him please
his mom met his dad at his family reunion and tured out they were first cousins, not his fault!
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Yes, you are wrong. DATA is tangible. Go touch your HDD.
As for Rocochet...I guess you can shove that right were the sun don't shine.
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have u ever touched data, if so please tell me what it feels like cuz i wanna know
ya u can touch ur hdd but is that data or and hdd
friggin idiot dont post bs
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STUF you moron. Go get an education.
1.
capable of being touched; discernible by the touch; material or substantial.
2.
real or actual, rather than imaginary or visionary: the tangible benefits of sunshine.
3.
definite; not vague or elusive: no tangible grounds for suspicion.
4.
(of an asset) having actual physical existence, as real estate or chattels, and therefore capable of being assigned a value in monetary terms.
You dumb mother fucking internet dipshits are really starting to put a huge negative on the whole human race thing...
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Some services may change your current settings, cause a loss of data or content, or cause some loss of functionality.
So puleaz make sure you react to something with knowledge to react with.
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I'll help you out ok?
"Some services....cause some loss of functionality."
Try to follow me here ok?
Services....loss of functionality....services....loss of functionality....services....loss of functionality....services....loss of functionality....
Are you starting to see the picture?
Loss of functionality IN REGARD TO SERVICES. Those services provide data and if the service changes then your data from those/that service can also change.
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That paragraph says that they can update your firmware to the latest version WITHOUT you accepting it. I seriously doubt they would do this, due to the risks associated with a bad firmware flash, but they're saying they CAN.
It goes on to say that they can make your ps3 download "new releases" and a bunch of other stuff (wasn't really sure what they meant here). It boils down to Sony saying that they can change anything on our PS3's any time they want to... even without you downloading the newest firmware.
It could be that nothing they'll ever do will be detrimental to me, but it still pisses me off. I bought the damn thing and I should be able to decide what happens to it. I'm still pissed that Sony added the "What's New" section to every freakin' tab with no way to disable it, and I'm still freakin' furious about the other os fiasco.
I read somewhere that iTunes quit Drm'ing their music some time back. Good for them (can't believe Apple did something right). Maybe I'll start actually paying for music now that you can actually use what you've paid for. Sony should take a hint from them. Security is all well and good, but if securing a product (or rather, securing profits for the company; not making it more secure for the end user) diminishes its worth then don't freakin' do it.
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100% WRONG!!!!!!!!! It says no such thing.
A SERVICE is not a firmware upgrade.
Dude, do a text search for the term FIRMWARE. YOU WONT FIND IT.
Jesus, you people are so damn ignorant. It boggles my mine!!!!
There is no such thing as AUTOMATICALLY UPDATING YOUR FIRMWARE.
If I remember correctly, this BS went around a couple years ago too....
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It's illegal to add agreements after the point of sale
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Who made them God or in charge of what we can have on our PS3's?..Sony should be concentrating on the updates that we want Cross Game Chat with more support for a longer friends & Ban list as well as In Game Music!..Not 3D junk cause I won't fall for there lies again!
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It was either that or Four Christmases, either way some BDs do ask for an update.
At least now we don't have to buy a remote with a DVD driver update like on ps2
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Sony: "We are doing stuff to your console without your knowledge. So whatever you do, DO NOT turn off your console while we like do umm stuff to it like flashing some sh!t or else..." *owner turns off console* "... Didn't I just tell you not to turn it off while we do stuff without you knowing! Now you gone and messed up your PS3. Oh well, go buy a new one."
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but what you going to do, play by sony's rules or don't buy sony's equipment.
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What kind of an idiot child do you have to be to not understand that? If you ask me, your guardian didn't slap the shit out of you enough.
If you came to my house and decided you were going to do whatever the hell you wanted regardless of my rules, I'd beat the fuck out of you. At least all Sony can do is either ban you or force you to play by their rules.
Got a problem with that? I guess you can continue crying about it but it really wont do you any good.
Sony is 100% justified in their actions. As is MS and Nintendo when they do the same thing.
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But you see that's not what we're talking about. When we go to Sony's house (psn) then yes, we should definitely play by their rules. Don't do anything bad on psn. But we're not talking about their house: we're talking about our houses! We bought the ps3's. They belong to US, not Sony.
I don't understand why you're always taking their side on these things? I'm not trying to be insulting: I legitimately don't understand your position. It's like you're saying that you're totally ok with Sony having this kind of control over your ps3 that you paid for. You're ok with the idea that they can basically "hack" into your system and change stuff around on you (ok, hack is a strong word for the situation but I couldn't think of a better one). Is it just that you trust them not to do anything extreme?
@Chrisw92, I fully intend to never buy another Sony product for as long as I live.... or you know... until I calm down or something. Seriously, though, I don't think I'll buy a ps4 or a psp2. I probably won't go out of my way to avoid EVER giving Sony another dollar, but I'm not their loyal (idiotic) customer any more.
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If you didn't know, it's also the same for games (read the first pages of a games manual or the text that displays on screen that everyone button mashes to get past). When you buy a game, you are purchasing a licence to use it, but the developers/publishers all stupiulate that by loading the game you are agreeing to use the software by their rules (such as no public displaying of the works, no copy, no decompiling of any code etc) and if you do not agree with those terms, you shouldn't play the game.
If you're not happy with those rules, then you should give up gaming and never use a computer or console again.
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YES IT IS!
"We bought the ps3's. They belong to US, not Sony."
WRONG!!! You do NOT own the software on the PS3.
Want another example? Are you old enough to drive? Do you have a car? Have you made upgrades to that car? Have you adjusted the on-board computer to handle those upgrades? You probably paid good money for the device to alter the computer's settings. Now take that car to the dealer. Guess what? YOU JUST LOST YOUR COMPUTER CHANGES. Because odds are there's a SOFTWARE UPDATE and their diagnostic computer upgraded it for you. Guess what? YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK. There is NOTHING you can do about it because in order to maintain your warranty, in order to let them work on your car that upgrade is MANDATORY.
SONY, IN NO WAY can HACK into your system and make changes. YOU AGREE TO EVERY CHANGE they make. That's what you need to do in order to play NEW games that require these changes. Don't want to agree? Then DON't! Stick with your old games.
You do realize the feature that was removed was worthless right? You do realize that LESS THEN 1% of PS3 owners actually used it, right?
You make the ignorant comment that you will NEVER buy another Sony product. You do realize that in order to NOT be a hypocrite you will also have to NEVER buy a Microsoft product? Never buy a Nintendo product? Never buy an Apple product? Never buy a Ford? Never buy a Toyota? Never buy a Dodge...ugh, this is going to take a while....
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Sure all games have that disclaimer thing: you're not allowed to reverse engineer, publicly display, blah blah blah. I'm pretty sure, though, that if a game performed an unasked for update that caused you to lose legitimate, advertised features, they would get in trouble. They sell us a license to the software, but if they take things away from the software, the license they've sold us isn't worth as much as before: it's the whole bait and switch thing.
Now I really doubt that Sony has actually given themselves a kind of back door to go into systems and make major changes (major changes would generally require a fw update that we have to agree to), but their Eula seems to suggest that they have to the right to. Going back to your car analogy, it's like saying that after you buy your car, they can come to your house and reprogram its computer any time they want: not just when you take it in for service.
"...services may be provided automatically without notice when you are online... Without limitation, services may include the provision of the latest update..."
There. They said that they can provide services automatically without notice and that they may include the provision of the latest update. I'm pretty sure that when they say update, they're talking about firmware. They're saying that they can update it without notice or limitation. Again, they would be stupid to pull a stunt like that: if firmwares started flashing automatically, there'd be a lot of bricked ps3's out there; but they're saying that they CAN.
And as far as the hypocrite thing goes, did I say anything that would imply that I am not a hypocrite? On the contrary, I said that I intended to never buy another Sony product for the rest of my life or until I calm down or something. Just about everybody is a hypocrite in one way or another. And I'm already not buying Microsoft since the 360 was such a piece of crap (I realize that it's a powerful system with graphics and performance on par with the ps3 and there are many excellent games for it: but it's got a freakin 50% failure rate!) I also don't buy Apple or Nintendo but that's just personal taste, not because they're evil.
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I'm sure a lot of people haven't. That's why there is so much ignorance on this subject on this page alone.
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*cough*
Narcissism with severe delusions of grandeur.
*cough*
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What a crap example. I don't have to upgrade my ps3 for sony to fnck me. I don't have to get maintenance on my ps3 to fnck me. All I have to do is sit in my home, and I am remotely force with the choice of either upgrading or losing functionality that came with my system.
Your example would be better if instead of bringing your car in for maintenance the deal dispatched technicians to everyone's garage to present the choice of flashing the cars computer or he will cut the power cord for your radio
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wow you are chocked full of stupid aren't you? If the feature that was removed was worthless...
1) it wouldn't have been a marketing tool at launch
2) people wouldn't be bitching about it
3) sony wouldn't have had to remove it
You are totally right about not being able to live without sony though, they have their hands in everything.
Like watching movies? well even if sony didn't make the movie, they get money from the dvd and often the technology used to film it.
BTW less than 1 % of car owners upgrade the firmware in their cars. By your logic that part of the userbase is irrelevant anyhow.
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It was never a marketing tool to begin with you moron.
People bitch and cry just like you for no good reason.
They removed it because of security issues.
Got anything else to be wrong about?
Less then 1% upgrade their cars computers? You base that number on what? You are DEAD WRONG!!! The number of people who have their cars worked on is HUGE!!!!
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BOHICA
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Quote: When the rich wage war, its the poor who'll die.
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How about they just do simple things like raising the limit on how many people can be in a voice chat. Or allow voice chat during gameplay, thats your party chat right there.
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ie if all your mates are on a voice chat and you want to join in, but cant because its full. you not going to go join a voice chat with some randomer
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the thing is i am certain if it wasnt for hackers we would probably most likely still have pagers instead of mobiles
Hackers really are a major source of movement in technology, not only due to the fact that the educate some of the younger ages who then grow up interested in technology
But many businesses are kept on their toes, they change medium, creating higher capacities, while a new lot of hacks need to be found.
Right now, believe it or not i dont pirate (i did, and didnt like it, you end up playing the first 5 mins of every game, and dont appreciate them, as they were free)
However lets say the ps3 gets hacked, and people start pirating, more people are going to want faster internet connection, when previously there were no real needs
Now i may not have put the best case for it, but this world need hackers, i for one wont be hacking my ps3, as homebrew on a console no longer does it for me, and i aint pirating for the above reasons
also by threatening to hack and release exploits which could have a major affect on the ps3s profit. It is possible we could see a XNA/Apple Store type thing
Is that not good
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so, thank you installer, cydia, and rock... and all of the JB apps
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The childish behavior over a totally worthless feature that had close to NO ACCESS to the systems resources just blows my mind!!!!
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The sad part is, for about $300 you can build a computer to run linux that is 1000 times better then what the OtherOS feature provided. Plus, that dollar figure comes from a while back so who knows, maybe even cheaper now!!! Hell a $250 cheap ass netbook would be leaps and bounds better!
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Or maybe someone could shoot you in the gut then take the money from your wallet as a cost for the bullet you won't give back. bet you'd think that is fair.
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
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Please note that if it wasn't for Geohot tampering with the PS3 AND BROADCASTING IT in an attempt to crack a console that has had a long lifespan without unauthorized console infiltration, unlike the Xbox360 or the Wii which lead to so many other bad things, Sony would not see a reason to remove other OS for as you can see, cracking a console can lead to piracy, hacking especially on PSN, and a lot of other heartaches that would hurt ppl and Sony. So Sony is sacraficing Other OS for the greater good of everybody's enjoyment with the PS3.
Also, if Sony is really that bad for taking away content in addition to the console th@ U paid for, then how come no one is bringing up the incident where Datel's Max Memory Unit was Locked Out from supporting the X360?? I would much rather use Datel's memorycard that is less expensive, has option for additional memory, & is better than one from Microsoft which carries worthless memory capacity and is expensive. Now I know this is different from the case of the Other OS, but they all lead back to potential console hacking being a threat to their foundation.
I BLAME GEOHOT FOR THIS. THAT PERSISTENT FAGGOT.
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Uh, Geohot found an exploit that's been in the PS3 systems since the beginning. The exploit came from how the system was developed.
People like you are blaming Geohot for the exploit but what if Geohot didn't do the exploit but someone else found it. You would blame that person also.
It's Sony's fault that the exploit happened because there is a flaw in the hardware that Sony developed.
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The exploit was caused when you ran a PS1 game and had a special file on your memory card, it would cause a buffer overrun and you can run homebrew, etc without a modchip.
The exploit was removed in newer PS2 systems. The exploit was caused because of how Sony created the system.
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geohot hates piracy, and he's the only one who can hack the ps3 and create a cfw... so, when a cfw is released, remember it will NOT play pirated games...
as you said, SONY made sacrificed the Other OS, not geohot...
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Sony would NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES! because they don't know what the hell Geohot might do since he found the exploit. Geohot may not like piracy and probably won't release the ability to do so, but how does Sony know he won't do otherwise? How does Sony know someone else won't try to break in further and enable it??
So you would give me thousands of reasons not to trust a corporation that puts out a product for the consumer's enjoyment, but you wouldn't dare cross the idea of not trusting geohot for trying to liberate users from Sony's actions on ppl's consoles?? Well then let me give you one: If geohot does releases a CFW for the PS3, How the hell do you know if it wouldn't brick your ps3 because of some unnoticed bug? It isn't his fault if you chose to accept his update and in the end, you would have to send it in to SONY if you want another (or buy another). I remember several CFW updates for the PSP that went bad and bricked most ppl's PSPs.
Clearly he doesn't have as much experience as Sony, the one who created the PS3 so I would much rather stick with what I bought from Sony since the community still relies on them to keep bringing the content (ie. CROSS GAME CHAT).
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this has gone way beyond geohot m8 open your eyes.
sony wants to be able to update your console whenever they feel like it with whatever they want, take away any feature they want and on top of that if it breaks during that process they are not liable for the damage caused.
other os aside is this ok with you
If it is I know now why gaming has declined since the ps2 era.
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WTF ?!
-> i paid for something ...now is gone
-> updates for the better ...removing stuff what i paid for
so wrong...
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No, very few people bought a ps3 JUST to play linus. but MANY people bought it beacause it CAN run linux in ADDITION you playing games and going online.
If you can think of anything ANYTHING that is done for a sole single reason post it and I will let you know about something you forgot.
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It's just a way to make people and forget about the removal of the features...What's next DVD playback removed for security reasons?
This consoles should start advertising itself as "the console that only does NOTHING"
I really hope they get into legal problems because of their damned ever changing EULA & ToS which don't supersede the real law.
Sony is becoming no different to Communist/Socialist corrupted nations and the fanboys are their brainwashed subordinates that fight for them blindly without knowing any better of the situation at hand.
All in all, these latest updates have been nothing but garbage on the user's-end in order for Sony to cover their self-righteous interests.
How they reacted against the Geohot/Other OS incident was poorly done and a new low for Sony...they didn't even try to fix it. I bet they were planning to remove anyway and this was their excuse.
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All those things you listed are good and I'm grateful for them. But that's not what we're talking about. Ok, a few people complained about trophy sorting... not sure why: I don't care one way or the other about trophies, but I'm not going to complain just because an update makes them easier to use.
The discussion is about Sony's ridiculous Eula and their unethical theft (yeah, I said theft: deal with it) of at least one bought and paid for feature, as well as the potential that they could do it again if they wanted to, and they could even skip having us download an update. They could just disable Divx support tomorrow if they wanted to (I'm not sure if they technically could: they probably don't have the kind of access to each system that they would need... but they might, and they claim to have the right to do it). If you refuse to update your system, they could straight up disable all game-playing until you do. Again, I doubt they have the technical ability to do so and I'm sure even Sony wouldn't be stupid enough to stir up THAT kind of mess, but according to the Eula, they have the right to do it.
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Remote play on a Vaio is all fine and well but I have a Toshiba which was quite a bit more powerful for the same price as a Vaio so that doesn't help me. The added flash is good too but as you said "Games, that's those funny things you pay for and the main purpose of the console." So why bring it up? Though I believe the solgan for the ps3 was "It only does everything" There by making that last part not relevant and if the games are all you care about then why make those first two points? Now the System RAM is a plus but Im almost positive that a CFW could free up even more because do we even know what services run in the background?
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I really can't see this anyone getting anywhere with a lawsuit about this.
If I read this right, they are reserving their right to stopping you from breaking other agreements within the EULA, as well as keeping your system fully up to date in case of security risks.
Though I do feel sympathy for those losing Other OS feature.
Also, in order to avoid data loss issues, one could probably just look for the blinking light before you decide to turn the PS3 off.
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2 i use linux everyday to do my h.w and study the cell for my major.
I paid $625 for my launch 60Gb unit idk about you but Part of the reason why i went for the ps3. Because it advertise that it only does everything which is no longer true. IFY im on linux right now tying this comment because I can't send comment on QJ from the ps3 browser on Game os
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So.... you're saying that Sony is actually even MORE unethical than we've already been saying? Linux was just a way to scam the UK government out of some taxes?
And what do you care about the Ps3's ability to run linux. It doesn't matter how well it worked: they advertised it prior to launch. It was a selling point whether they expected anybody to take it seriously or not. Some people did. The only reason I never installed it was because I hadn't got around to buying a bigger hdd for it yet. Good thing I didn't, since it would now be worthless.
And calling Geohot snarky and ugly looking (is he? I've never seen him) just makes you sound desperate. It's like you realize that you can't make a valid argument so you're hoping that name calling will make up it. I'm not even sure why you felt the need to go that route, since the tax break thing was kind of a decent point... almost. Never mind, I totally understand why you had to go that route.
And once more I feel the need to express my complete and utter bafflement at all the people who take Sony's side? If you don't care that Sony is taking things away, then why do you make such a passionate argument? Are you expecting Sony to be all like "Yeah! Lewey and ISOHaven have out backs!"? I mean you're content and we're not. If you're so damn content, why don't you just go be freakin' content? The rest of us are not only angry about the loss of Linux, but worried about the doors this opens. If Sony doesn't get any backlash over this, then what else can they do? And if there's no backlash, and others see that, then they too may be emboldened. This has the potential to be a huge issue. I mean, it might not be: there might not be any further ramifications, in which case, you can all say "I told you so," but I think that would be an overly optimistic assessment of the situation.
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How does your PS3 have anything to do with the PSN? You didn't pay for PSN, you paid for a PS3. You can skip the update and keep using Linux, that's your choice. But if you want to log onto PSN (which you don't own), you have to update.
If you want to play World of Warcraft, you have to update even if the updates remove features that everyone likes. It's the same thing.
Except in this case, you aren't paying for PSN, so you have even less reason to cry about it.
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Bait and switch.
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So, in short, I couldn't care less about what Sony's EULA says.
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that is one of the most idiotic things i have ever heard. I did nothing wrong yet sony removes my os option even though the terms stated that the removal of functionality was dependent on my breach of the terms. but they remove my features due to some random person I have never even seen before and I don't even know his real name.
I don't have any faith in sony anymore. they promised that they wouldn't remove other os and they broke that promise. Now they want to update my ps3 whenever they feel like it without accepting liability if it breaks in the process.
they are probably doing this so that they can take away features like game sharing etc without any hassle.
TBH if you read any of my posts before I have been against hacking the ps3 but solely due to the fact of pirating. But now I say bring it on. sony can kiss my @$$
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Or you can pirate your 360 and get it banned in mass bannings 2 months before christmas to help microsoft pad their sales figures when you buy a new one? lol
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other companies essentially require you to be in breach before removing functionality or even access.
since they removed other os when many people did not breach the terms whats to stop them removing anything else once they get you to agree to that EULA?
what that is basically saying is that you consent to all future upgrades. the whole notion of you "choosing" to update is BS after acceptance of that since they can just update it in secret anyway.
I don't mind them denying access to psn that is their right but when they start fiddling with my property then thats where the line is drawn.
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i recommend you to read the user agreement for PSN. it's incredibly restrictive towards what user can do (esp, the "user generated content" part) and can be summarized "it all belongs to us, you have lots of restrictions, and we'll take no responsibility". it's not exactly like that but the entire writing is very restrictive.
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Well, well, i will not acepte that!
I bougth till today from sony consoles 2 ps1, 3 ps2, and 1 ps3!!!
Finhish!!! Sony lost a customer!!
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Here's a fun bit in it considering that the EULA is the same for both Xbox and PC users.
It says that they can cancel your account(paid or not) if you get your machine repaired or modified by anyone other than an "Authorized Microsoft" service company. So if I upgrade my computer myself, according to the XBL agreement they can cancel my account.
They also go on to say they can cancel you account for "any reason (or no reason)"
That is on a service that you are paying for! So, before you go complaining about what Sony is putting in... read Mocrosoft's.
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The removal of otheros sucked for some and not to much for others for me I own 3 ps3's and have yellowdog on one them so I covered my bases there.
I have owned pretty much every system that has released in the last 20 years but due to a house fire I own far less now no big really sorry its late and im rambling on but another point we have so much more to worry about right now than bickering over our gaming systems. Good night my fellow gamers.
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However it's quite frightening Sony (or Microsoft in the case of Cardboard (X)Box) has more and more power over what they can provide to you and what they can do with a system you have bought.
So there is a chance of loss of data? How would Sony use this information in order to remove what they consider "pirated" data? How do they *DEFINE* pirated data? How does Microsoft use the data if they find out you have used an "unauthorized dealer" to fix your xbox? They'll send it to the police?
The whole fight against piracy from the Copyright Fascists has become ridiculous. The british music industry tried to ban the synthesiser because it might have put loads of "hard working" musicians out of work. Now I can't even transfer my blu-ray to my PSP because of damn DRM.
There are the 10% of people that will *always* pirate, no matter what copy protection is there. Arguably piracy has opened up a market of new upstarts doing business in different way.
Maybe Sony and Microsoft should go back to making games rather than micro-managing the world in fear of a handful of pirates. Meanwhile I'm gonna play on my PS3, waiting for geohotz to come up with his new CFW. Good day.
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I'm extremely frustrated that Sony have chosen to remove Other OS. I am also concerned that so many people don't seem to have a problem with this action. This has led me to write a response...
I compare the Other OS to any other "Game" that I own, I feel that I have paid money for it (one reason for the high price of the system!). Due to a potential exploit, Sony decide to remove this feature. Now, are there not potential exploits in some of the games I own too? Imagine in the near future going to play one of your games, and finding that Sony have prohibited you from playing that game because someone had found a saved game exploit.
I would expect a patch to be forcibly applied to the game or system before I could use it again, but not I would not expect the game to be permanently disabled.
From the impression I get here, if this ever did occur, I could probably count on the majority of the responses to be, "That's fine, it was a shit game and only 1% of people played it anyway" !!!!
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I would have just for the 'OtherOS',
but Sony has trashed it.
Updating used to be about bringing in NEW features NOT removing EXISTING ones.
The updating ability has been totally abused.
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