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Firmware v2.40 FAQ released, clears up trophy issues and more

Posted Jun 30, 2008 at 5:57PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: Eric Lempel, PlayStation Network, Sony, XMB
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Sony PlayStation - Image 1Now that the release of the Sony PS3's v2.40 firmware update is just around the corner, we're sure that all of you are wondering what changes will be applied as soon as the firmware goes live. Yes, we know about the in-game XMB and trophies, but what exactly will happen...say, if a game you've been playing happens to have a trophy whose requirements you already fulfilled?

It's a good thing that Eric Lempel, the PlayStation Network Operations director, published a comprehensive FAQ sheet just a few days before the PS3 2.40 firmware hits Sony consoles in the official PlayStation Blog.

Some of the relevant questions in the FAQ sheet answers the question that we have mentioned above, that is, whether or not a player will automatically get the trophy for a game whose certain requirements have been fulfilled. Sadly, Lempel states that trophies aren't retroactive, so that means that you'll have to do the feat again in order to get that darn trophy.

Also, trophies are tied to a player's PSN ID. That way, there's no need to worry about accidentally losing  your valuable trophies if you happen to upgrade hard drives. Another thing about trophies: you can check out your friends' trophies and compare them with yours whether or not your friends are online or not.

On the subject of in-game XMBs, this feature is currently a PS3-exclusive functionality, so don't expect to be able to tinker with the XMB while you're playing Blu-ray movies or PS2 games. However, Lempel did say that they are considering adding XMB access during Blu-ray movie playback, so better wait out for that change in the near future.

There are many other interesting tidbits and questions cleared up in the FAQ sheet written by Lempel, so if you have any questions that you need to be clarified before you update your PS3 firmware to 2.40, hit the Via link for more information.



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# ..Binary 2008-06-30 19:12
How many times do you have to scroll to get in Trophys? too much



So pointless even the XMB (Oh HOORAY MESSAGES)





All there's next genations consoles no longer paying attention to their games. They more attention on USELESS stuff like pictures, videos, music. All I wanna do is just game and online play somebody with a mic



all I care about.

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# damnAdamantius Snake 2008-06-30 19:14
... for a second there I thought 2.40 was just released lol

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# no in game chat (mic)robbo16 2008-06-30 20:38
wtf that was one of the features i just expected. looks like another year wait for that feature to be put in

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# "do the feat again"Knivez7 2008-06-30 22:52
I suppose that's good news. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who use others uploaded game saves. If the trophies were "retroactive" these people would get trophies with ease.

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# it's not about you.NarooN 2008-06-30 23:20
It's about everyone. And how is it useless if there's...a use for it? The PS3 isn't exclusively for gaming. Sure, it's a gaming system before anything else, but it's also a multimedia powerhouse. And if you actually preferred leaving a game to read messages then something's honestly wrong with you.

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# Can't have it all.CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2008-06-30 23:23
You might as well get a phone.

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# don't bother NarooNNeilR 2008-06-30 23:39
He's posted the same "useless" comment in the first article except this time he left out the part about "going to go play xbox".



So, yeah, there's something wrong with him.. he's commenting on the PS3 so that he can piss people off and get a woody.

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# damnAdamantius Snake 2008-07-01 00:27
because of this, it looks like I won't be playing any PS3 games til they release it.

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# ~~~~ 2008-07-01 00:39
It's just a one day wait :P



Think you can make it ? Not touching your PS3 for an entire day ?

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# Can't waitJosh1billion 2008-07-01 00:51
Can't wait.

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# mm not to bademcp 2008-07-01 00:58
i like the idea of it being retroactive



as i lost my gamesaves, and was going to probably dl someone else savedgame for resistance, as i hate to have to complete that game again, its boring



anyway cod4 ill do it with pleasure, ridge racer i havnt touch



gta4 im a bit pissed about, i was on the final island, luckily i dont think trophies for this game will be tied in among the storyline



and thats all ive done now, i havnt started collecting flying rats or anything yet

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# damnemcp 2008-07-01 01:08
i just looked at the FAQ

and im a bit disappointed with the current implication

but thank god theyre at least looking into things



id really like being able to access the psn from other sites, like have it has your sig atleast

id also think the chatting would be good but i can wait for that



its sad they dont let you access the xmb on ps2 titles, but then again i dont play them, so im not that bothered



there was a few other things, i just wish sony will hopefully get this sorted



an i believe they will as theyve already got the hardest part done, the decisions on how to implement it

not they just have to improve which doesnt havnt to be through a FW, eg the ability to see psn on sites



bit pissed about the fact that theyve cluttered the xmb up way too much with things that dont work

like the web browser and visual settings, just remove them from the menu and only include the main things such as

friends and music, that all that way they could redeign the xmb and make it a different simplistic menu all together for quicker scrolling



incase you messing around online and you have to be quick

anyway what id liek to see is shortcuts

ir PS+R1= skip rack

and to access the xmb its a double tap of the PS button

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# not happy about the trophiesKeith K 2008-07-01 01:30
The Trophy system in fact does include the infamous "Gamerscore" clone.. fairly upset by that.



The fact that Sony has waited almost 2 years to implement this and wont even give us the benefit of a one time retrofit of previously played games is just sad. I just picked up MGS4 and have played the hell out of it.. I dont want to start all over, not to mention the rest of my library. I may never been lucky enough to complete some of my previously completed accomplishments in some games.



Most of the game library doesnt even include trophies, meaning Sony has specifically given us a reason NOT to go back and replay our games until the devs release a patch some time in the future, if ever.



Im happy its here and will enjoy its use in the future, but I have a year and a half worth of playing Im not really interested in repeating.

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# Terrible...girandhistacos 2008-07-01 02:12
This is ridiculous. Why the hell shouldn't they be retroactive?



I beat the hell out of my games and now I have to go and do it all over again?



And what about games I don't own anymore? I have to go get them again just to get the trophies?



Sony loves to be really stupid.

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# ~~~~ 2008-07-01 02:56
perhaps, because everybody can just download gamesaves from gamefaqs ?



Tough luck for the people who already finished a game, yes.



But hey, whatcha gonna do ?

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# forumGmDude66 2008-07-01 03:19
Could you add my thread link to the news post?



I had that thread up way before this was posted ;P



http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=141969

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# oopsGmDude66 2008-07-01 03:20
That took you to the latest post in the thread, here's the link:



http://forums.qj.net/showpost.php?p+2070374+postcount+1

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# yawpAdamantius Snake 2008-07-01 03:25
Totally agree. I played the hell out of MGS4 the first week it came out, within 2 weeks I beat the game about 7 times, 1 playthrough giving me the Big Boss emblem, which was pretty hard to get, and I grew tired of the game after the first week.



What is also going to suck is that I am going to have to earn 100% completion again on GTA4, if Rockstar chooses to add trophies.



I understand that people can just download saves, but why not fix the saves that they can only work with the console that they were created on, I'm sure they can do that with an update.

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# ...Binary 2008-07-01 03:55
I just wanna see how many fan boys I can pissed off. lol

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# wowRickey123 2008-07-01 04:46
if all you wanna do is piss off fanboys then you need to sort some things out

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# trophy smophyJason L 2008-07-01 05:21
what do ppl care about these stupid trophies? i'm getting tired of hearing about them. who cares? it's not like they will actually -do- anything.

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# agreedscott1234 2008-07-01 06:12
but it adds more to the game.

doesnt it come out tomorrow? CANT WAIT

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# @dark420bishopThinker 2008-07-01 06:31
"what do ppl care about these stupid trophies? i'm getting tired of hearing about them. who cares? it's not like they will actually -do- anything."



- By the same logic, what use is Gamerscore and points? It's not like they will actually do anything.

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# yeapsn_gamestar 2008-07-01 07:30
wow ur a new bred guy of a xbox fanboy thats insane u absolutely have no life

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# I thinkextra2000 2008-07-01 08:28
It does not matter if you copy someone else's save. I think trophies will work like gamerscores. If you copy off someone else's save, you won't be able to obtain any trophies from it.



Otherwise it's pure plain pointless to achieve trophies by grabbing the saves from someone else.

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# Don't get your hopes down. Wth!NarooN 2008-07-01 08:41
About things like In-Game Voice Chat, Eric didn't outright deny that in the FAQ. He merely said it wouldn't be in THIS firmware because their main priority was getting the text chat and trophy systems out as quickly as possible since they were the Number One requested feature.



He said that it's possible for them to implement it later, as well as other stuff, so sit tight and be thankful we're getting what we're getting now!

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# mmemcp 2008-07-01 08:56
yes they could tag the ps3 gamesaves, but wht if you want to upgrade harddrives and swap saves just to see wht its like, say if you rent a game like GTA and you want to see all it has to other, you may download a savedga,e



they could also tag the savedgames, let you play them but only give only give you the ability to plsy them and be unable to use the trophies from it, what if it gets hacked?



also DO NOT WORRY, SONY MAY NOT HAVE IT RETROACTIVE, but its because they require the game to tell the ps3 when a topry is unlocked, it cant do this trhough a savedgame



WHAT YOU MAY SEE IS A PATCH FOR YOUR GAME, IN WHICH THE DEVS WILL GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO SELECT AN OPTION THE SAVEDGAME IS READ AND THE GAME WORK OUT IF YOU DESERVE A TROPHY THEN YOU WILL BE GVEN THE TROPHY



this though will allow cheats again, also the trophys will be timed stamped andmay require time etc to be used a evalution, we dont know



BASICALLY THEY SAVEDGAME WERE NEVER GOING TO BE RETROACTIVE BY SONY, OTHERWISE IT WOULD REQUIRE SONY TO TAL TO ALL THEDEVS IN ORDER TO SEE HOW THEIR SAVEDGAME IS COMPILED WHICH WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME



ALSO SOME THINGS MAY NOT BE HELD IN THE SAVEDGAME, AND THEREFORE WILL NEED TO BE ADDED BY THE DEVS



DEVS WILL MAY MAKE AN OPTION TO RETRIEVE ALL POSSIBLE TROPHYS, BUT FOR SOME GAMES THIS MAY NOT BE VIABLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PRECAUTIOBS WERE NOT THERE BEFORE

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# NOW IF THEY WOULD JUST GET OFF THEIR ASSMorlander 2008-07-01 10:18
nice to get these really awsome but somehow pointless feeling additions to a firmware but some of us still have launch consoles that refuse to run gta4 without constant crashes.

how about sony actually making a move with rockstar to actually fix this ***** instead of being lazy *****s and offering to replace a perfectly good machine rather than actually working to correct the problem that their constant sku updating/changing caused

sick and tired of sonys bull***** lazyness and incopitence

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# OSHI!93pauott 2008-07-01 10:59
two minutes to release!!!!!!!! !!

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# RetroActiveAdamantius Snake 2008-07-01 11:47
I just read that Burnout will be retroactive, because of the fact that the save file is connected to the PSN account, this might also be the case for other games, Vegas2 also has the savegame file that is connected to the PSN which can't be copied.



http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/07/01/trophies-timed-challenges-for-burnout-paradise/

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# wrong linkAdamantius Snake 2008-07-01 11:53
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/01/burnout-paradise-to-receive-retroactive-playstation-trophies/

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# w00t!Jason L 2008-07-01 12:23
2.40 coming out tomorrow! I can't wait!



To everyone whining about the lack of retroactive trophies, they have a very good reason for not allowing it. As other posters have pointed out, there is too much potential for abuse should they allow it.

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# ITS OUTBaDaPpLe 2008-07-01 16:46
Its out be4 the 2nd and alrdy installed here WOOT!

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# I got it too!Knivez7 2008-07-01 16:55
Hoorah for us, am I right?

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# You don't "have" toKnivez7 2008-07-01 17:03
You really don't have to play it all over again. Be happy with your accomplishments and receive trophies for games you haven't played or completed everything on.



Also, do trophies honestly mean that much to you that you would pay for a game again? That right there is stupidity on your part.

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