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Court denies Sony's motion for Expedited Discovery |
Listed in: PS3 Tags: Geohot, lawsuit, news, ps3 hack, Sony
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| 1. Court denies Sony's motion for Expedited Discovery |
| 2. The motion for Expedited Discovery |
| 3. Geohot TRO hearing |
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Quick recap of the story so far: Hackers crack the PS3. Sony sues the hackers. Geohot, team fail0verflow and over a hundred others are involved. Sony adds more. But Sony can't sue people they can't even name. Now what?
The biggest hurdle in Sony's legal action against the hackers for now is identifying them. Waninkoko, KaKaRoTo, and grafchokolo are among the many mentioned in the court documents, but Sony will be needing real names to pursue the case. About the only one publicly taking the bullet for the case is Geohot, who is widely known by his real name, George Hotz.
With that name, Sony was able to secure a temporary restraining order against Geohot.
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The end.
Ps: You're an ass. moron.
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Every single request Sony wants to make will still be requested and listened to, just not right now.
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except, and if you knew anything about law this would be obvious, without the power to subpeona all they can do is ask nicely. That means they have to submit a customer service request just like anyone else. Being a corporation they may have a bit more clout, but considering most of those sights have a privacy agreement that states they wont release your personal information /without a court subpeona/ this more or less shoots that tactic in the foot.
This is clearly a win for a lot of people, and even if one of the aformentioned websites does release the peoples names, they can recoup costs by simply taking /that/ website to court for breaking its own privacy policy and releasing private account information to a third party without consent. Yes, that is, amusingly, illegal in places like california. Which most of these places are housed.
Simply speaking, sony just got dealt a big setback as far as this entire legal proceeding is concerned. It hasnt even gotten started yet, funny enough, and they have to somehow overcome the precedent the apple case set in regards to jail breaking ones own devices. As this is all this hack really was, a jailbreak for the PS3. If the courts consider jailbreaking an ipod/iphone legal, why would they rule differently about a PS3? Odds are, they wont.
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Funny comment. Here's why:
"If the courts consider jailbreaking an ipod/iphone legal, why would they rule differently about a PS3?"
If you knew anything about law this would be obvious. LOL
In the case of the iPhone it has nothing to do with jailbreaking. Apple shot themselves in the foot because the only way to UNLOCK the iPhone is to jailbreak it. The whole point of making JBing legal on the iPhone is to allow customers access to unlocking it.
If you sign a 2 year subsidized contract for an iPhone then you own that hardware after 2 years outright. Well, for owning a phone outright and only being able to use it on ONE carrier....hum....what do we call that? Oh yeah, that's right...MONOPOLY! As I'm sure you know, they are illegal. You can NOT force someone who owns a phone to use only one carrier. iPhone purchased outright are already unlocked. Phones, cell phones, utilities....yeah, they all have their own laws to follow as StickyGears pointed out to you.
Like myself ad others have stated, "just not right now."
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And if we keep it up, the gaming industry will collapse and we'll just go back to hacking trees with an axe like the good ol' days. More families will lose jobs and we'll all be proud of our accomplishments . All hail GeoHot, the revolutionist who will bring back poverty and the enjoyment of pushing a hoop with a stick!
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There are much better ways of Sony to deal with this. Look at Microsoft, they just ban consoles. You know how they do that? There are people employed to monitor game environments. They have a zero-cheating policy. Free ISN'T always better.
The Playstation 3 commercials say at the very end "It only does Blu-ray, It only does immersion, It only does [fast scroll of words ending with EVERYTHING]", We do have the right to do as the advertisement says, don't we?
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Oh wait... look at the PSP! That did fine with all the hacking, right? .... NOPE.
Same goes for the Dreamcast and the PC (even though it's not quite dead yet).
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PC gaming isn't anywhere near dead, and it never will be. Yeah, there's pirates out there, but a keygen only works for so many CD Keys. And those keys can't be online at the same time AND they can only be used a few times anyway.
I hacked my system to play emulators (GBA and Sega Genesis), but wouldn't dream of pirating a game. Everything on the PS3 worth playing to me I already have either on the PS3 or the 360 (Except W@W, but MW2 is garbage IMO and I'm going to trade a friend straight across)
And the reason Dreamcast failed is because of the PS2. PS2 had a built-in DVD player, which back in that day was something not everyone had, but was something nice to implement into a game system.
Pirating PS2 games was also quite simple WITHOUT a modchip, but look how successful THAT was.
My local GameStops haven't seen a slightest drop in PS3 game sales, either.
Piracy isn't as prevalent as everyone is making it out to be. Now, if it were to get to the point of 80+% of games played are pirated, that's a problem. But it's nowhere near that, and never will be.
and to Musev, Yeah, there are cheaters on the 360. Yes, I have run into people with (LS)(LT)(A)(B)( X)(Y)(RT)(RS) in their gamertags. People take it as irritating, and I have my share of gamer's tourettes as a result. All you have to do is beat them in game, and they'll get bored with the cheats and give up the hacking. Or get banned. Or both. In the long run, running into cheaters will increase your skill if you have any sort of self-control at all.
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Free is just as good in the case of the ps3 & the 360s online. and the ps3 has only really started getting these cheating bastards since that attention seeking prick "hacked" it.
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SONY aren't above the law and WE are the reason this brand name still exists. It would be very interesting for EVERYONE to stop purchasing anything with their logo attached to it by spreading this message over every forum and social network in every language around the globe and sit back and see what happens to a company who thanks their consumers by repeatedly kicking them in the face.
If you've/know someone that's pre-ordered the PSP2 or NGP or whatever it's called now ... cancel it. How long before all the retailers start sweating when it shifts zero units worldwide on launch day, they would certainly think twice about stocking other SONY products if this happened across the whole brand, it really is that simple.
... are we all blind sheep or is it time to make a change ???
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Also, I find it amusing you ask whether we're blind sheep while trying to lead us (like sheep) to boycotting Sony.
That being said, ZOMFG everyone stop buying Sony products and drinking Starbucks, down with The Man, VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
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Maybe he thinks he's Tony Stark, Reed Richards, or one of the many heroes that doesn't use a secret identity?
All the biggest white hat hackers are known by their real name in addition to their pseudonym. If you don't believe that what you're doing is illegal, why go to any trouble hiding your real name?
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