PS3

Blu Ray, Please

Little Big Planet, dont make me laugh

360

Gears 2, Hells Yeah

Halo Series, Hells Yeah

Bioshock, Hells Yeah

awesome online play



u must be one of the ones telling urself that ur PS3 has "Good Graphics"

Whoever said that the differecne between SD an HD is unoticable on TVs less than 50" is a jerk and should be tortured for stupidity.



And I don't buy many games so the few excellent games I buy for PS3 keeps me happy. I wouldn't have gotten MGS4 on a 360,



You have to pay for online services for a 360 and it contains less value-adding features like blu-ray so the 360 is more expensive,



Whoever buys a 360 is giving money to Microsoft. That's bad. Microsoft is evil.

halo 3 sux and is completely over rated

bioshock is on ps3 (u ignorant fanboy)

gears is a 6 hr game thats nothing unusual...

ps3 has killzone2, god of war 3, and ffvs 13 as some of the most amazing games coming out next year. Lets not forget that mgs4 is only one of the greatest games ever made. u r just so blind. so cnn says ps3 is too expensive boo hoo, its an american channel what do u want them to support nintento? ms probably pays them to say dumb crap like that on tv so dum people watching go and buy a "cheap console" that doesnt even include an ethernet cord or hdd. im sorry but if u compare ps3 to 360 than the cheaper system is ps3... also supperior in game library because uummm can u fanboys please gimme one good game coming out for 360 in 09 that wont be on ps3, and dont say halo 3 recon because thats pathetic (a crappy demo for 40 bucks isnt that what ur excuse about gran tourismo was? oh and u think that u can get a 360 and mod it to play free games... too bad cuz since that last update, if ur 360 is modded u cant get on live lol there goes ur money noob. well anyway the only thing i see is that ms has no respect for its customers. Sony does... too bad u cant see it

lol yep i can tell a huge difference between dvd and bluray and my 27", bothers me when people say they cant tell a difference between SD and HD. the difference is huge.

I say the First Console to make there games 39.99 will win the Console war. PS3 Might have high initial costs but there are no hidden costs like the xbox. While I Prefer the PS3 I would like more or less for the games price to drop not the system.

Oh polease! Give the PS3 some time CNN!! Plus PS3 might be getting more new games and a cool add on if they bring the Play Tv over to the US in march or so :)

ur stupid!! You can't say PS3 has a better game library and include games that aren't even out yet. I've been hearing about Killzone 2 for 4 or 5 years now, and MGS4 being the greatest game ever made is obviously your biased opinion. I think Halo is overrated but I also think 360 is the all around better console, only thing it lacks is blu-ray.

You cannot play pirate games on the PS3 unlike the 360 which you can mod to allow it.



That doesn't mean people buy more/less.

Why do I need a wireless adapter? Why do I need to buy the elite?



The good thing, and why it is selling better, is because the 360 does not force you to buy all the bells and whistles. I have a $250 version with a 20GB HD. I don't buy TV Shows or Movies or music for it, so I don't need a large hard drive. I don't need a wireless adapter because my modem is right next to it.



So your theory goes right out the window with a little common sense....NOT EVERYONE IS YOU !

"The PS3's big bonus is its ability to double as a Blu-Ray player. Too bad no one seems to care about hi-def DVDs. The differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50"."



Is it hard to see?.. >_> oh god...

That's the same as saying "oh you can't tell the difference of 1024x756 and 1920x1200" on your 24" monitor...

or that a 10mp camera and a 5 mp camera takes aprox the same shots..

Quit bull*****ting me already.

What a kind of bull***** story

When CNN says it, it isn't even word mentioning just like Global Warming and all those other hoaxes



What CNN says is just something a kid 2 years old can make up but that doesn't make it right

The PS3 has a lot of powerful hardware inside which would cost twice the price of the PS3, and this hardware isn't being used why?, because it's reserved for the next years when developers are able to use all of the power

The Xbox 360 is dieing why doesn't anyone see that

With the Power of 360 soon it won't be able to play the latest games.

The only solution for microsoft is paying game developers a big load of cash to skim down the graphics to make it work on 360 and the sad thing is developers do that ruining the game industry



That news post really wasn't even worth mentioning



Here's my comments



1. It's the most expensive console on the market, 0 - 0 more than its rivals. Even if you believe the video game industry is "recession-proof" (it isn't), a tanking economy makes consumers more price-conscious.

Then buy a Chinese Game station for !! twice the fun it says advertised



2.The PS3's big bonus is its ability to double as a Blu-Ray player. Too bad no one seems to care about hi-def DVDs. The differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50".

DUDE, the smaller the screen the sharper the image(The closer the pixels are)

Shame on you dude your completely wrong

People like you ruin technology, with your smart man talk



3.The PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console. "LittleBigPlanet " has generated decent buzz but isn't a game-changer, and neither is Sony's new virtual world "Home."

As of today indeed, wait a year later the 360 will only have shovelware because it can't handle future games

Because you don't know ***** about it ill keep it simple 360=3x3.2Ghz PC processors,PS3=8x3.2Ghz Cell processors

That is a simple answer but 8 times Cell can't even compare to those silly Pc processors

The games on both consoles are crap at the minute. Seems latley that people see the price difference as the selling point and get the 360 and who can blame them.

Omg...I had a 360 before my PS3 and the only thing that could make me go back was the online play...I was so sick of FPS and War games...so sick of all the problems 360 gave me etc etc...I bought the PS3 and if you can't tell the difference between the two of them you must be blind. The assh*le that wrote the article says: "The differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50" :| Who, after this sentence, takes this guy serious? Come on, PS3 is expensive but there's no way that it's dying on the shelves...mainly because the greatest games are not even out yet (apart from MGS)...

its too early to say that because the ps3 is one year younger than 360 and if u look at sony's prespective, there are not doing that bad at all, and one more thing, just wait for 2009 and see the results

@ gio2009



obviously you didnt do the same. if you buy an hdmi cable why would you also buy a component one? also who would anyone spend $60 on a headset when they can buy a bluetooth headset for at least $20. the official sony headset doesnt even cost that much unless you want Socom: Confrontation to come with it which makes it alot better than the wired headset that comes with the elite. also if you're gonna buy 2 games for the ps3 you're gonna do the same for the elite since it obviously doesnt come with games either unless you buy it now for it comes with Kung-Fu Panda and Lego Indiana Jones but if you buy it now that means you can buy the limited edition 160gb which comes with Uncharted and Pain at the same price. Finally, the wireless adapter isnt necessary since most people can place their elite next to a modem but im one of those unlucky individuals who cant so its a must for me.



Now it comes down to this,



PS3 Limited Edition - $500

HDMI Cable - $50(can get it alot cheaper but this one comes with a usb cable)

Official Headset - $60

3 Games - $0

Total - $610



360 Elite - $400

3 Games - $10(to match with Pain or Confrontation)

Wireless Adapter - $50(this is the cheaper one for the 360. the MN-470)

Xbox Live - $150(3 yrs.)

Total - $610



Well what do you know? Same price. Now that we ruled out the cost, which is the better console to buy(especially when the ps3 purchase comes with 40 more gbs, blu-ray, and, imo, better games to start with)?

I dare say that if you take in account the average number of games in both systems, the PS3 has more games related to war and FPS than the 360. O_o.



That just proves that you are either a fanboy who says that you "had" a 360 but then had a change of heart because of the games.



Please, be truthful at least when you want to bash something.

Why are you fanboys threatening each other and saying your a waste of space? Maybe the problem is you are letting these companies control your brains and you need to get outside. These companies dont give a crap about you and they only want your money. The only winner is the non fanboy here because they are enjoying their games with friends while your on the forums wasting your life away.

"The differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50".



You really have bad eyes, lol. On a 32" it's EASY to see the difference, and REALLY EASY!!! I even tryed, lol. 42" it simply POP in your face, especially if you watch both at the same time (try breacking the image in half, left in DVD quality and right in BD quality, it's not that hard to do, you'll be AMAZED!)



And anyway people don't care if they can see the difference, they buy the best, that's all.



Sorry to pop you baloon miss microsoft lover, lol

heres a shoot down for the ps3 fanboys.

if any of you ever made note of offical notes from sony you would know that sony is planning to make the PSN into a pay monthly subscription starting at and may go as high as



thats a rough price of -0 a year which is way more expensive than XBL.



now sont did say in newsreports they will NEVER drop the price of the PS3 due to it being a finacial viability.



ps3 start price right now in the uk is £300 (roughly 0-0USD)



the start price of the xbox360 in the uk is £99 (roughly 0 0USD)



look at the huge price diffrence



also the xbox360 allows backwards compatibility where as sony has now rejected that idea due to it not being

"finacially viable" you see sony all they want is money and lots of it, hell look at how many ppl sony have fired just because they are losing money.



now am not saying microsoft are all innocent, hell look at how many xbox360's are buggered.a containership full friggin 10's of thousands but at least MS fix em free of charge unlike sony who wanted £150 just to get the blu-ray drive changed in my nephews ps3, and then they had the balls to charge another £100 to replace the hdd and update the firmware / software.



the other bad thing about the 360 is that we cant use any old laptop hdd it has to be ms own firmware type where as the ps3 can use any laptop hd.



talking about hd's



xbox360 at the start only had the 20gig then they released the elite which was a 120gig and then replaced the 20gig with the 40gig.



look at the ps3 80gig DOWN to 40gig then BACK up to the 80gig and bumped the price up for that and then they released the pads with rumble in em at a premium price.



sony dont give 2 hoots about customer base all they wanna do is get your money even though MS wants it to at least they help there customers.



i have the ps3, ps2, psx, xbox1 ,xbox 360, psp (old and new slimline) , wii, ds (old one and the lite) i am not one sided here all these systems have there flaws but non more so than sonys consoles.



the old psp may have had its flaws but at least the battery lasted 3 hours more than the slimline one, also at least the old screen could keep up with games and it least it did not crash when it couldent read the umd.



the xbox was the first to introduce a multiplayer system on consoles which was reliable ( yes i know the ps2 had something like it before the xbx1 was released) but the xbx1 did much more for consoles than the ps3 or ps2 did and now the 360 expanded that by having downloads for movies, tv shows, game add-ons, full games arcade games , achevments LONG before the ps3.

sony held of on selling the ps3 due to the real reason, they wanted to laugh at microsoft when the 360 bombed and look what happend.it blew up in there face and then the went and launched the ps3 in a huge big ass launch party which was strange since the only ppl that were invited were reporters and a load of very select ppl and that the normal person wasent invited as they could not afford the ps3...seriously who would pay 0 for a frigging console which had no games with it and only 5 games at launch.



the 360 had over 50 games at launch and there worldwide launch party everyone was invited.



as for exculsives .well we have exclusive xbox only games MGS is coming to the xbox, Final Fantasy is coming to xbox theres even rumors of gran turismo coming to the xbox since the company that makes it is NOT a sony owned company.



as for making games on the ps3 and 360.



the 360 in short is a power pc which means games take less time to design and program as its just a matter of making the game and porting it over to the 360.



the ps3 has a totally diffrent type of programming which requires a sony programmer to be onsite at all points during the programming as the cell system takes 4times longer and it also means they developer must sign a NDA or the game will be refused by sony.



i could point out every single flaw for the 360 and ps3 but 9 times out of 10 the ps3 fails

If you want to make huge walls of text, that's fine. I'll read them when you learn grammar and punctuation.

so much arguing.

the guy in the article is an idiot and personally im going to stick with the ps3. why we dont have a "great library" is that well it takes time anf money to make games on ps3. we all know the ps3 has an untapped potential and could turn up lots of awesome games, but developers want a quick and easy buck so they make it fast and throw it out there. look at the wii, it has some of the most pointless games, but it makes money because its cheap and it gets a new retarded game like every other week. i guess what people should realize is that the ps3 needs time to catch up, but people arent patient enough. the ps3 has many anticipated titles such as, FFX13, Versus 13, KH3(squeenix fanboy^_^)and many more, but hey for those who have high hopes for the system, keep hope alive

thats not really gonna end it, youre just adding fuel to the fire, dude

go ***** yourselves and just wait because this is not end of the consoles and lets see what happens in 2009, and also by the way Eric Krangle is a 360 fan boy

wow, i stopped reading your post after the first sentence. I lost interest in it completely.



Why are you all trying to stand up for the companies. All they want is to make a profit.



Both systems have positive and negatives. Both have good games.



Go play the video games, or better yet go outside and do something.



And just like RommelTJ said, go learn proper grammar and punctuation - then people can properly read your text.

and one more thing, 360 fan boyz, u guyz don't know ***** about ps3 because u guyz don't have one, and when ever i say wait until 2009, u guyz get upset, is it because the 360 has lower exclusives? or is it because the ps3's sales will increase?

you are an idiot. learn to round up.

Also you probably do work in the game industry but a clerk job at gamestop does not make you an expert.

Everyone should STFU! Everybody should just enjoy the fact that everyone here have a gaming system.





Now I'm going to go play some games on my PS3.

You're an utter idiot.

I own a 360, but i don't hate the PS3 enjoy the system you have and STFU. As for the idiot who wrote that article needs to check up on his info.

His second and third points prove that he knows ***** all about the subject. The PS3 isn't going anywhere and i doubt Sony will give up. Once this crappy economy gets better, so will sales of consoles.

I wouldn't pay any attention to this rubbish!

For straight up playing games on-line i'd say PS3 has the better on-line.



None of the major games on 360 have dedicated servers, they are all peer based, and choose an xbox to be the host.



Even with a free service Sony still runs dedicated servers so everyone has a fair experience....SOCOM, Warhawk, Resistance, all have dedicated servers that you can join, as well as peer based match making....



NTM much higher player counts in games....Resistance runs just fine with 32 vs 32 player combat....360 tops out with 8 on 8, why, no dedicated servers....

The play and Charge kit.....also in the 3 years I had my 360 I had to replace my headset twice at $30 a pop....and if you want a wireless one like you would get on PS3 it's double the price of a decent bluetooth headset (which you can then use with your phone)



PS3 IS a better value...period....but it seems people would like to get nickle and dimed over the course of a year or two, rather than put the money down up front...

Obviously you both know nothing...



Firstly, it's not 8 cell processors, the whole unit is called a cell processor...



Secondly, yes all the processors in the PS3 are clocked at 3.2ghz, and all the cores within the processor of the 360 are 3.2ghz....



This does not equate to a 25.6 ghz processor though....each core/SPE has to run code seperately...



So, *basically* 360 can run 3 processes at 3.2ghz each, PS3 can run 8 at 3.2ghz each...however it gets alot more complicated as both differ highly in architecture....



Also, what are you taking about SKU's for ?

They guy in that video really doesn't know anything either...



Especially in the department of the video cards...



He kinda got his figures messed up...



360 has 48 unified pixel/vertex shaders, but cannot run 48 of each at one time.....if a certain scene requires 24 pixel shaders, then 24 are left for vertex calculations...



PS3 has 24 dedicated Pixel and 8 dedicated vertex shader pipes, meaning if a scene requires 24 pixel shaders, there are still 8 left for vertex shaders....but this can lead to wasted pipelines...



It is like RAM, if you have 48 megs of shared ram for the vid card and system, you have to split it up, if you have 24 megs for vid and 8 for system, you can use each independantly without touching the other....



He also forgot to mention that the SPU's on the cell can do vertex calculations and can make up for the lack of vertex shaders, probably the reason Sony went with so few on the RSX....

So true.



I know a lot of people who wished they had a Ps3/360/Wii, but can't have one due to the high price that its being sold in their countries.

I love FPS and all of them feel much better on the 360. I mean compare call of duty 4 and the orange box they play much better on the 360 but look better on the ps3. Now im a gamer so as long as i play all the real competition is on XBL. I played online on my ps3 and im only playing little kids. Im pretty sure i pay for XBL for a reason and its not to play against little kids. Also buying games on the PS3 is a waste because once im done thats it i cant play it anymore. On the 360 i can play it more than once going back and getting those achievements i may have missed. Bioshock feels better on 360 but it looks good on the ps3. All the better games that ps3 fanboys talk about are mostly all ported to to all systems.Can any ps3 fanboys please tell me how many good exclusive games you waited for ever since the ps3 came out till now DEC 2008. I already know about LIttle big planet. MGS4, Resistance 2 damn i think thats it. Also who would win in a fight Snake VS. Sam fisher

People want wireless because they don't want to deal with wire all over the place. I have my modem in my room with a router but I don't want to deal with drilling a hole in the wall to get the wired to the living room.

Please name all the war games on the ps3 and name all the one on the 360

i think LBP backfired because most people jumped on it because it was a free beta. that's why it was in such a high demand. people just wanted to play it for free. when it became a paid game - things changed.



despite all my sympathy for sony, i hope that ps3 will die and teach sony a lesson - it's a piece of hardware with way too restrictive approach (being unable to use full capacity of hdd and 3d acceleration under linux on ps3 is pretty much unfair).



when i use my psp with custom firmware, i feel like working with normal software platform - i can use the free sdk and throw whatever apps i can find on it. unfortunately, no thanks to sony for this one.



with ps3 you are so incredibly restricted about what you can and cannot do, even when running linux on it. i'll still buy a ps3 just to use it as a mpeg player/web browser/linux box, but i think that's about it.

Seriosly, restriced? WTF are you talking about...



In regards to this subject you have to talk about Sony as it competes with MS and Nintendo.....So if Sony is "restrictive" WTF are MS and Nintendo ?



Seriously, you are even lucky you can use linux, officialy, on the PS3....every other console in history (except for PS2's failed attempt to support linux) has had to be hacked to run linux.



Homebrew, people can make homebrew for PS3 linux, you seriously think the homebrew crowd will be able to tap into the full potential of the RSX ? doubtful, the Cell provides plenty of power to run whatever the homebrew community wants to throw at it....problem is, people don't feel it's homebrew because it's programmed under linux and you have to switch operating systems to run it...



Then there is Sony's support for custom maps in UT3, a whole game centered around user generated content.....seriously dude...



You my sir, are a fool...

the best example of sony's lock is their license agreement on PSN about that "user generated content" you are so proud about :



http://www.scei.co.jp/ps3-eula/psn/u/u_tosua_en.html , point 12



"You authorize and license SCEA a royalty free and perpetual right to use, distribute, copy, modify, display, and publish your User Material for any reason without any restrictions or payments to you or any third parties. You further agree that SCEA may sublicense its rights to any third party, including its affiliates and subsidiaries. You hereby waive all claims, including any moral rights, against SCEA, its affiliates and subsidiaries for SCEA or any other third party%u2019s use of User Material to the extent permitted by applicable law."



isn't that uh, "wonderful" ? there is no "user generated content" if sony is guaranteed to become the owner of your contributions. you made it - they can rip you off. legally.



as far as linux is concerned - it's a bit of a clever moral trap from sony. some people hack consoles in order to run linux on them. but what if they can already run linux? that will most likely stop most people dead in their tracks.



the way i would like linux to run on ps3 is to be as a full-featured system, and not a locked-down crippled version. that's constantly monitored by hypervisor.



as far as homebrew is concerned : (via wikipedia)



"Homebrew is a term frequently applied to video games produced by consumers to target proprietary hardware platforms not typically user-programmable or that use proprietary storage methods."



as long as you develop on ps3 linux - you are not making homebrew. linux is not a proprietary platform. and it definitely does not use proprietary storage methods. see?



as far as competition between ms and nintendo goes - yeah, every platform is restrictive. but i think sony is the one that sticks out the most. especially with their history with ps2 linux (which also was incredibly crippled).

Like I said I kept it simple

3 PC proccesors can't compare to A 8 Core cell proccesors

Tough this is a simple sight into it, also the graphics card of X360 is very outdated

About servers; Depends on the game. Games like Halo 3 are peer-based, but there are also a lot of games which have dedicated servers.



Besides, what's gonna happen in 5 or so years (***** the 10 year lifespan, you know it's not gonna happen), when Sony starts closing down their dedicated servers?



About the game libraries; I chose to buy an Xbox 360 for two reasons: I like FPS games and all of my friends have 360s or Wiis.



About RRODs; I have never got this problem, and neither have my friends. I know one guy in my school who got RROD with a launch 360.



About Live GOLD fees; I don't think 33 euros (44 dollars) per 12+1 months is THAT much.. if you know where to get your codes from.

You have obviously read false rumours >.

let me set this hole thing straight:

ps3- is better in every way posible because 360 has more games and stole lots of sonys titles but u ppl dont look at the fact gamewise yess live has more ppl online but the fact is there always kids and once in a while a teenager onli games you find teens or adults are gears and couple other games like halo witch is actually extremely over rated(i own a 360 and theat game i kno) 360s games are only temp like its life before red ring because my brother bought gears 1 3 weeks ago and beat it in about 5 hours wen he knew how 2 play and kno wat 2 do gears 2 is onli 7 hours and not really different then the first but this is where the ps3 becomes a better consol first ps3 has a game simular 2 gears ppl jus dont really notice because of its color and it has a good bit of prince of persia in it and thats uncharted drakes fortune and no1 can tell me thats a lie because i own both gears and played uncharted alot of times jus uncharted is actually a better title because they lengthin your ability to hang on a cliff that has a hole to the other side where there are ppl waitin to kill you and you can lift yourself alil and pop your hand over to shoot and yes he should have really died by the end but everything he did really was possible and reallistic and ppl actually stagger wen shoot now with online... psn is actually alot better and more orginised 1 is that every online game has people playing it unlike live which only the newer titles have people playin online and it doesnt take years to search a match if your doin so next is didnt you realize all 360s best online games are usually 8 players online reason for this it cant maintain a framerate like halo which is more but it moves laggy on ten and 12 but 8 is fine even tho it has 16 literally there is never atleast 1 person on that mode 2 play they probibly closer that mode manually and look at ps3 titles online games onli get laggy if the host has a bad connection its also free and on top of that look at little big planet and R2 little big planet did have alil isues but that was because media mocules never worked on that part they were workin on glitches and they fix that problem in less then a day and now R2... i shouldnt have to discribe it but its framerate is locked literally at 60fps and thats even with 60 players online battles which live couldnt try and there isnt lagging and even warhawk 32 players never lagging ang there are always alot of ppl playin acter a year and a half of playin onli games doin that for xbox is gears and halo xbox onli has good shooters which are short resistance 2 is a good length gear isnt i want then to try play metal gear solid and use 8 discs actually 10 because their are things they have 2 put on all discs ps has tha better racing game motor storm series has its version of gears uncharted which a 2 is comin out fall better platformer ratchet and clank series and lbp better fps risistance is way beter than halo taticle disgea3 rpg white knight chronicle and next year ff13 which isnt comin 2 360 same date as ps3 vs 13 and best straight online game warhawk better prices on ps store and better understanding of cash not points actually bet price cuz we'll go with their average consols :

::-360 Pro 60gb $279.99

play and charge kit for control $24.99

one year llive is actually $59.99

any one good game to play (because no1 plays india lego nore panda i sold dem)

$59.99

second wired control $49.99

rd r comin in about a year or 2 lol

wireless adaptor $89.99

hdmi $59.99

$524.93 (and thats the nice price without tax)

not lets add live vision 59.99$ (and no mics on it but aleast you get a free one)

$584.92



::-Ps3 $399.99 80gb Free game with it for holiday season either little big planet ratchet or resistance2

no payin online onli on store

second control $54.99

hdmi $29.99

keep forever plus ur new blu-ray plaer bigger hdd

$484.97 (lets now add a eyetoy and its a mic also)

$49.99

$534.96



now you kno wats actually cheaper if you want t

MGS4

LBP

Resistance 2

Killzone 2

FF versus XIII

Heavy Rain

Uncharted 1 + 2

Ratchet + Clank

GT5

SOCOM (in general, even though the current one is mediocre)

White Knight Chronicles



As far as Snake vs Fisher goes... Look at it this way - If you run into a room (containing four or more grunts) all-guns-blazing, in Splinter Cell, you'll probably end up in a body bag. Snake, on the other hand, takes on a nuclear equipped bipedal tank by himself on multiple occasions. I'm pretty sure that Snake would give poor Sam a beating. (I'm not biased against Splinter Cell by the way, 'cause in the PS2 days I couldn't get enough of Chaos Theory)

Instead of packing the console with tons of fun features and CONSTANT support (even for games), this is what sony should do:



Make a new SKU-- Call it PS3 Monster.

Now...

-Strip out the hard-drive.

-Take out online features--make it cost more for a wireless adapter.

-Take out all backwards compatibility

-Have only 1 USB port



great! Now we've got ourselves a $250 console!! It can play blu-rays, so blu-ray fans would love it. And, it plays ps3 games--so casual gamers who will only get 1-2 games or just rent everything can play them. And if you want, you can always buy your own HDD for it!

Heavy Rain as an upcoming exlusive.

Flower and Afrika also look amazing, and are bringing in a whole new way to game. So much variety...



Also, the ps3's already immense hardrive can be VERY easily upgraded to handle any and ALL media you might have.

Well, this article clearly explains that the PS3 is not targeted towards low-middle class children/teens/young adults who have nothing better to do with their lives than to prove that they have no life on a wide array of online (or not) games. I don't play my Xbox360 very much just because I don't get addicted to simplistic online shooters. It also doesn't get much usage because I don't care for many of the games on the Xbox360 that aren't on the PS3, such as Gears of War 2. (Why? I don't know, its just another shooter to me.) I don't even buy XboxLive because I realized I wouldn't use it because Ps3's is free.

If people can't tell the difference in a 720x480 movie and a 1280x720 or 1920x1080 then they don't really care in the first place.

If people don't care, they buy an Xbox360/

End of story.

I have concluded that both, users of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are equally ****tarded. Therefore finally concluding that the computer is the best choice for quality, high level gamers.

If all the good games on the 360 are only shooting what are they on the PS3? lol



Mgs4+ Shooting(I know u can sneak through the whole game but it still involves shooting)



KillZone2, Uncharted, Resistance.



Do i need to name some more? lol

what about us microwave fanboys

I own both a PS3 and a 360. The PS3 is my preferred console because I have more friends on it and it has more exclusives:

Uncharted series

-Ratchet & Clank series

-MGS4

-Littlebigplanet

-Resistance series (2 wasn't that good, but with more time, 3 will be awesome)

-Killzone 2 (Coming out in Feb., was in the beta, it's awesome)

-FFXIII Versus

-Others that I'm blanking on right now



360 also has a good library, but the argument that the 360 has a better library is total bull*****. They all have multiplatform games that are awesome, and they play just as well on either console. Problem is, the 360 just doesn't have as many exclusives:

-Gears series (awesome, but not Jesus Christ himself)

-Halo series (First was Really good, 2nd was good, 3rd was a total overrated dissapointment)

-Some Square Enix RPGs that I honestly don't play or even care about



Now, when it comes to xBox Live vs. PSN, I think it is honestly a draw. Yes, Xbox Live has cross-game invites, but I just use messages, even on Live. The new avatars in Live are cool, and Home sucks, but I never use or bother with either. Live has Netflix, but so does the PS3, along with youtube, hulu, ESPN, and new sites through PlayOn (look it up).



So concluding, I like the PS3 more than the 360 because of the Blu-Ray player, Uncharted, how much quieter it is (I do know you can install games on 360, but I'm not paying for a 120gb hard drive), my brand new 320gb hard drive, the Media Player option (I know 360 has it too, but the PS3 implements it better) and I also like the controller a bit better (360 is good, but I don't like the D-Pad at all).



You guys are *****ing dumb. Every last fanboy.



And remember, Sony and MS don't pay you. It's ok to think something on your respective glory hole is bad.

your arguing over CNN news which is known as ***** news network who cares what CNN says why dont we watch and see what happens

you are daft enough to think Sony is the most restrictive of the 3 console companies....



Just the fact you can run linux out of the box, makes it, factually, the least restrictive of the 3.



The ability to create user generated content makes it, factually, the least restrictive of the 3. (regardless of the licensing behind it, like you would ever be able to sell anything in LBP anyways, you'd have to be EXTRA daft to think that)



The fact you can view webpages, play flash games, watch you tube, makes PS3 factually less restrictive of the 3....



Now about homebrew, I don't need your wikipedia definition, we all know homebrew is just crappy copies of established games, and emulators...all things that can be done in linux, and even by your definition, anything made for PS3 linux would be made for a "proprietary HARDWARE platform". You do know all those PSP "Homebrew" you love are compiled in linux or a linux shell ?



and just another little side note to prove you wrong even more, go try to plug the PS3 eyetoy into the 360 and see if it works....doesn't. Guess what does work on the "restrictive" PS3, the xbox live vision camera....along with most other USB devices....



Quit talking out your a$$ buddy....

PlayStation Visa: This Is Living With Debt (and a $250 PS3)

By Mark Wilson, 9:30 AM on Tue Nov 25 2008, 5,940 views



We'd probably opt for a generic blue or silver credit card and rack up the sky miles or cash back rewards. But in case you wanted to show your PlayStation allegiance to every waitress, store clerk, and webcam companion that you secretly suspect to prefer Microsoft or Nintendo brands, this PlayStation Visa is ready to foot the bill while tallying up Sony rewards points in the process. Seriously though, signing up for the card will save you $150 off a PS3 from now until December 31st. So that's at least a little enticing. [PlayStation Blog via Kotaku]



frost:so purchase a ps3 with this card,and its 250 bucks whoo

this topic has became a bloody warzone between ps3 and 360 fans..

Holy there is an epic clash of hate between the ps3 and 360 here wow.



This is my opinion of the 3 consoles (only listing the pros of each).



Wii

- Tons of games

- For the few golden games it has (ie. Smash Bros) it's a great party console

- Excellent (but very limited) first party content



Ps3

- Excellent multi-media features including Bluray playback

- High quality first party exclusives

- Clean interface

- Free online system



Xbox 360

- Excellent online service

- Large variety of games

- Netflix service

- Generally multi-platform games are initially developed on 360 hardware





Now, that being said, I only own 2 of those 3 consoles.



I must say though, as far as the "best of the best" games for ps3 and 360 are concerned, taken right from top 20 of each on Gamrankings.com (and excluding the multi-platform games):

360 - Gears 1, Gears 2, Halo 3, Braid, Mass Effect, Geometry Wars, Forza2

Ps3 - LBP, MGS4, Uncharted, Ratchet, Resistance 2, Wipeout HD, Valkyria Chronicles



I personally find this list VERY even (but one game in particular tops the cake of them all, and it starts with an "M" =P).

Then there is the list of "future prospects" for either system

360 - GTA4 Exclusive Content, Gears 3? Mass Effect 2

Ps3 - God of War 3, Gran Turismo 4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2



As far as I am concerned, as of this writing, the ps3 has the "brighter" future as far as exclusives are concerned, but Microsoft has potential to pull something out [of their wallet ;) ].



So, I know I wrote a lot, but I hope you took the time to read my post. Both systems definitely have their advantages. I'm just sick of hearing "ur stupid the --- pwns the ---"

For the record, Burnout Paradise and Bionic Commando are multiplatform. And I doubt Bungie will make Halo4, so you can scratch that off the 360 future.

The PS3 is AWESOME, it just doesn't have as large of a game library, same problem with the psp, which is also AWESOME but missing a good library of games itself.



360 has some reasonably fair to say, fun games- as well as a decent games library. Just doesn't have such a beast under the hood. Too bad Microsoft took the *****ty route and went with HD-DVD. I wish their media had more storage. Imagine how nice the 360 would be with blu-ray and it's high capacity disks.



But the hardware doesn't always make a system better, look at the wii, and it's high level of success.



In the end this is just another "my mac is better than your PC" argument. It really is like *****ing for your virginity.





Sony and Microsoft are both equally evil empires, run by evil robots!

Why wont you kiss my aS Krangle =)) if LBP isn't a game changer then which game is??? and I bet you're a mindless idiot who doesn't distinguish games with SOULS like MGS4 from soulless games like most of games in this generation.



Dude, you better leave the gaming area and stick with some other job!

exactly!!



The MS HDMI pack is only 49.99



But my monitor actually came with an HDMI cable for free so suck on that

errr,, xbox360's are cheap coz they fuggs up constantly.. red ring of death and all the bullchit ya have to go through to getting one repaired, extra time and money. and the need to pay to playonline just blows. Clunky chunky controller sux balls,, ok so u got rechargeable batteries,, ya still gotta take em out.

And all the messin around to install a bigger HDD.



PS3 is a quality machine, gamer friendly media centre.

I dont watch blueray movies at all,, but its there if ever needed. PlayTV you got?



Sales?? dont mean chit,,

XBOX360's may have sold more because its marketed as the cheaper console, therefore poor people can have access to a gaming console, its bundled with 3 to 4 games which is appealing to tight ass parents(games are for 12 and under) which means more sales, and if your rich you probably have both.

Its just inferior to the PS3.



Not everyone can afford the nice car thats pimped out.

People really DON'T care, and that is why the PS3 is losing. They don't care that it plays Blu-Rays, they don't care that it offers an overall better value than the 360, $400 is too much to most people for a game console.



Let's be honest, the average consumer is an idiot, and has no clue what they can and can not do with an Arcade 360. So they can either walk out of the store with a console and any new game for $260, or a console and any new game for $460... Which do you think they pick?



I don't agree with most of the things CNN said (maybe if you're in your 50s and going blind you can't see the difference on anything below 50", but I sure can), but their core message is spot on: People are being very price-conscious right now, and the price of the PS3 is killing it.

The price drop of the 360 is a big factor but another one could be the huge selection of 360 games and many of them very popular. But alot of home entertainment junkies buy PS3's because its still by far the best blu ray player out. I work at best buy and lots of older people buy them because they did research on it and if they have kids over they dont have to entertain them just give them the ps3 controller. I bought the MGS4 bundle just because it was backwards compatible with ps2 games. I love my kingdom hearts games,marvel vs capcom2, star ocean, killzone, tekken, ZOE, and alot more games. The only games that are worth buying for the ps3 are rachet and clank and drakes fortune best games i played on the system hated resistance reminded me alot of killzone but with aliens. But as i was saying people think of buying a system they see the price then they think gears of war2 and they go with it from their. My grampa even asked whats this gears of war and he lives down south weird!!

It just comes down to quality. I find that the 360 has a lot of FPS and thats not really expanding the 360 library. PS3 has an array of games. it does have FPS too but they are of higher quality compared to 360. PS3 does need a price drop but its has so many features and a blue-ray player make more of an option to make longer and more dynamic games. And if you notice the games that are made on a PS3 way better graphics then games made on a 360



PS3

Blu Ray, better quality and longer games

Little Big Planet, fun and made for you to be a level designer

MGS, probably one of the best series out there

Free online gaming



360

Gears 2, they should have stopped at the first one

Halo Series, good but more boring as the series went along

Bioshock, good and also on ps3

online play that you have to pay about $60 a year



in the long run you end up paying more for the 360 cuz you pay for online gaming which will never go away. So, for a cheaper console you end up paying more for it due to the online and if you play online for about 5 years you have gone over the price of a PS3.



You want better gaming and quality and longevity. PS3 is the way to go. Plus the 360 has old parts like a disc tray the scratches your games up. the Had drive kills you in price for a more space when you can just buy a 2.5 inch HD and put it in the PS3.



you want quality go with a PS3 if you want quantity go with 360 but, you will pay more for what you bargined for

Oh yea, and the difference between Blu-Ray and DVD is actually quite clear. It's the reason MGS4 is not, nor will it ever be, available on the Xbox.