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Church of England demands big donation from Sony for Resistance: Fall of Man

Posted Jun 10, 2007 at 2:29PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: BBC, Sony
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Sony has to pay up - Image 1Things are heating up between Sony and the Church of England. As a recap, the church wants Resistance: Fall of Man to be pulled out from the shelves. Offense was taken for using the holy place as a backdrop for the violent game, and relations to gun problems in Manchester have submerged.

A meeting will finally be held on Monday by church officials to decide what actions to take against Sony, said spokesman David Marshall. What we know right now, however, is the list of demands they want from the big company.

Sony will be asked to send in their apologies, along with a huge part of the money earned by the game as donation. Other demands include pulling the game out the shelves or modifying the cathedral part, and supporting groups in Manchester that fight gun crimes.

Sony already made a statement on BBC, but it contained no formal apology. After calling the company "sick" and "sacrilegious," the Church of England wants donation from them. What's your take on this? Let's hear on the comments.

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# I thinkGuest 2007-06-10 15:37
that if the church is willing to accept a donation without anything changing, like the game still being pulled from shelves or modified, then I'd say that the church is in it for the money, as bad as that sounds. It's like "if you don't wanna change your game because it's 'bad', then we'll take money and you can continue to do 'bad' things, we don't care anymore." That'd suck for it to be pulled though, because I like Resistance and I own it.

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# I cant believe themGuest 2007-06-10 15:37
Are they kidding me! They just want money.....WOW

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# lolGuest 2007-06-10 15:39
they could've just ask...lol, the stupidest ever!

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# ugh..Guest 2007-06-10 15:40
British gamers, Boycott your church in protest.



I swear... all we need now is the Pope saying the PS3's shape is blasphemy and the color is evil.

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# wowGuest 2007-06-10 15:40
i say take it to court and easily win. Sony will not get in trouble since they already made sure what they are doing is ok.

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# I thinkGuest 2007-06-10 15:40
that if the church is willing to accept a donation without anything changing, like the game still being pulled from shelves or modified, then I'd say that the church is in it for the money, as bad as that sounds. It's like "if you don't wanna change your game because it's 'bad', then we'll take money and you can continue to do 'bad' things, we don't care anymore." That'd suck for it to be pulled though, because I like Resistance and I own it.

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# SadGuest 2007-06-10 15:40
I really hope Sony fights this to the end. I hope they dont' take the easy way out and just give them money to shut up. I am tired of these people that are dumb as hell. I guess they don't act on what they preach.



I have yet to meet a church ooer that wasn't a sinner. Hell, sometimes they are worse than the ones that dont' go to church. I came from a very christian country(Brazil) and everyone that I met in church were the biggest hipocrites ever. The church has turned me away from itself.



They must be really desperate. The sad thing is that they are making themselves look worse each time they open their mouth.

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# EVILGuest 2007-06-10 15:41
WOW... maybe religion really is the root of all evil....they say money is but everynow and then i see things were reigion wans money,,,,kinda sad

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# REDICULOUS!Guest 2007-06-10 15:44
the church of england is trying to sue sony/get Resistance fall of man taken out of the shelves just because part of the game is based around that area!? like what the hell, they said they would accept a donation instead of taking the game out of the shelves...They clearly just want the money. People are willing to do anything for money.



Hell, if sony made a game based where i live, i'd be like "WOOT! THIS IS AWESOME!"



OH, and not to mention the game is based like 50 years ago, who the hell cares! ITS JUST A GAME!!

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# heheGuest 2007-06-10 15:47
totally agree this is exactly what im thinking absolute corruption they never did really care about the violence it only about the money very sad very sad indeed if sony does give them a donation then i hope no good come of it and the people suing sony die straight bull cr@p man seroiusly suing the big ones these days it begining to be a fad

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# wrgGuest 2007-06-10 15:50
sony better fight till the end on this one! The church just wants money!

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# what everGuest 2007-06-10 15:59
the church is being retarted , sony did not do anything illegal

and i would not give them a dime, they should say screw the church and keep going about there way, it seems like every one is trying to milk sony for money and none of them are legit causes. if the church can get money out of sony for that then i will just sew sony cause the game damaged me and made me evil... bla bla bla what ever, screw the pope .

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# xGuest 2007-06-10 16:05
what's sick and sacreligious is the church attempting to coerce money out of a game company because they see the opportunity.

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# LOLGuest 2007-06-10 16:08
LOL this is a big joke.



If "money is the roots of all evil" then why does the church want it?

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# the churchGuest 2007-06-10 16:08
wow well its better then them taking the game off shelves

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# errGuest 2007-06-10 16:12
bit weird the church is willing to accept money which is essentially made from a game thats "sick" and "sacrilegious"...

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# Pathetic ReligionGuest 2007-06-10 16:14
They are all full of themself. This is how wars get started. People so up tight for their religion, they are will to do anything for it. Religion makes me Cry...

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# duhGuest 2007-06-10 16:21
Of course the church is about money. What church isn't? Having faith is fine, but organized religion is a bad religion.



Furthermore, there's no way they could press legal charges...if that was true, the city of New York would be suing the crap out of Rockstar Games for GTA:IV. It's more of a moral/image decision on Sony's part. (Which I think they'll keep their money and tell the church to pray for fat joe to make it rain.)

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# She Take My Moneeeey!Stunt 2007-06-10 16:27
The Church of England ain't nothing but a Gold Digger.



It take my moneeeey, when I'm in neeeeed. It's a church, pullin' an evilll deeeeeeed.

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# i am a christian (NOT catholic )darkgeekrocker 2007-06-10 16:32
but i do have catholic friends...they are never open about it and seem snoty alot of the time. but for a catholic official to sue because their church was in a game is IN NO WAY DEALING WITH SERVEING GOD OR JESUS. heck if my church was doing somthing like this, i promise you i would inform them on the game to show them the truth...and to all the reasonable gamers of a church, i want you to inform your church followers on games, i do and, heck, my preacher likes playing call of duty 3...our church has a moto, "come as you are and be forever changed"....because God created us ALL equally, and we are not the ones to judge who is good or bad.

anyway this "church" that is threating sony is walking off the trail to salvation with these actions.

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# That's not the caseGuest 2007-06-10 16:36
Actually, the quote goes "Love of money is the root of all evil."

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# SKIZMGuest 2007-06-10 16:51
haha sooner or later there will be another Schism (spelling?) between the gamers and non-gamers in the church. WAHHAHAHAHA

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# As a Christian, I agree with BystanderGuest 2007-06-10 17:09
Yeah, I used the 'C' word (Christian). The problem is that people like these give the vast majority of us a bad rap.



Seriously, when ANY religion or faith says: "Hey, what you are doing is bad and you should stop" and then turn around and say "We'll look the other way and be quiet... IF you shell out some 'donations'" it is hypocritical to what they're supposed to stand for.



It's a 'shakedown', plain and simple. Just remember that there are bad people in any demographic, not just in one religion or another.

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# Your dumb.Guest 2007-06-10 17:12
They aren't Catholic either, retard. Learn some history. They are the Church of England because back in the 'old' days you couldn't get a devorce in catholicism. So the King of England made his own church. Wow, for an aetheist I sure know more about religion than you...

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# lolGuest 2007-06-10 17:24
they think god will make em win the case. But judges are required to be neutral especially when dealing with religion. Most judges are not religious which is why you swear to an oath to the country instead of the holy bible ( which used to be done)

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# lol, and what's sad isGuest 2007-06-10 17:35
they're playing the part of instead of saying "we just want money", they're putting it as "donation"

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# That right there is the reason why religion is a jokeGuest 2007-06-10 17:36
All they care about is money *****ing douche bags

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# HAGuest 2007-06-10 17:41
the church DEMANDS a DONATION!?



Isnt that like not a donation then?

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# Jesus *****ing christGuest 2007-06-10 17:50
You'd have better luck negotiating with terrorists rather than the church of England.

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# goshGuest 2007-06-10 17:52
those church of englanders are just trying to get soe attention for their protesting and they figred, hey sony has a game with the church in it, why not try and make money off of that. its a shame on their partthey live in the same world we do, get over it, its not real...i bet they probably believe in aliens to.

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# Church Goers Are HypocritesCHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-06-10 18:11
People talk but they don't listen. Being a believer of the bible and knowing the words in it means the believer should listen. People running churches are the worst kind. They steal from people by warping the peoples minds and telling people crap that makes no sense. I wish all fake god worshippers had better brains to understand reality better.

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# I Believe In Life Far Beyond Our PlanetCHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-06-10 18:17
As you live there is a possibility something else does far from us. I bet there is something out there past our planet thinking that there is no such thing as aliens too. Get a real education.

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# Never Gonna Get ItTemprix 2007-06-10 19:44
They are never going to get their "donation" (Read: "settlement") because they're really just pulling this outta nowhere. If they could get money out of this then it would mean that just because a place you live in is shown in some sort of media with violent content in it then you have the right to sue! Now that makes no sense. Damn greedy bastards with nothing better to do!

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# very unholy! really shameful!Guest 2007-06-10 19:53
they should watch their backs because hale will hunt them down!

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# .Guest 2007-06-10 20:38
hahaha



so the real reason is finally out

it's all about money(in the church's case, "donation")



CoE is totally corrupted... sad but true

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# Man!Guest 2007-06-10 20:48
Why isn't the movie's industry bein sue also? they have churches and everything els u could find in games.

I pitty the fool who bring the name of god into there own evil deeds.

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# losersGuest 2007-06-10 20:59
Sony should tell the church to go ***** themselves, all they are after is their money, This is why i *****ing hate religion, its just a brain washing for money

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# yeahGuest 2007-06-10 21:03
and tell me the church doesnt love money

....pathetic

www.godisimaginary.com

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# They must be jokingGuest 2007-06-10 21:04
haha, thats so funny - in england hardly anyone pays any attention to the church anyway! this really wont be doing anything to improve its image and get more young people involved- quite the opposite i should imagine.

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# wowGuest 2007-06-10 21:29
wow...just...wow



Hey! I think i saw something that looks like my house in GTA San Andreas!....Hello lawsuit...

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# Str8 outta comptonGuest 2007-06-10 21:42
Just like homeboy Eazy-E would have said,

"I say f(_)ck em..."

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# not religionGuest 2007-06-10 22:11
One corrupt church isn't an entire religion, I think you should understand that. But what those individuals are doing is pathetic and are a disgrace to the church and the religion.

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# in context...Guest 2007-06-10 22:49
Oh dear this really annoys me... Yet more anti gamer rubbish, and it's a bit bloody late now is'nt it? The game's been out in the UK now since launch...



Not only that, but it's obviously not been played by those short sighted individuals making the complaint. If it had, then they would have realised that the use of the church is in context with the storyline of the game, and is'nt just placed there as a token 'shock' location...



What ever next - I know lets ban Elder Scrolls, after all the clergy get murdered at the alter in that!!!



Church people lighten up and pull your heads out from up your own arses for a change....!

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# Resistance: Fall of ManGuest 2007-06-10 23:35
I don't intend to attack any faith in particular, but certain religion is said to be the greatest killing machine. Considering the name of this game, could it be possible that some guys thought they themselves are depicted as monsters in the game?

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# sheepGuest 2007-06-11 00:13
the bible is the best selling novel in the world. The church is the biggest business followed by people that cant think for themselves. Very sad

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# re:uggGuest 2007-06-11 00:26
Hey, lets not get the Vatican in this.

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# IM SORRY??!??!!!Guest 2007-06-11 00:41
Did they actually PLAY the game? I wonder how this came out now, and not 3 months ago. I bet some random churchgoer saw his / her child playing the game and thought OMG, its liek sacreliguous I must tell the church! so they go off to their Manchester cathedral and start mouthing off about something they SAW IN A VIDEOGAME. Those of course are the magic words. It only takes 1 cunning and corrupt priest to realise the payoff they could get, and they could twist the story to really mess up sony. As far as I remember, when I PLAYED THE GAME YESTERDAY, there was no priests getting slaughtered, or anything like that. It's just a bunch of creatures coming down the walls of a 1950's styled manchester cathedral. No priests, and its not even styled like modern day. So that just tells me how corrupt the officials in charge of this 'Assault' on Sony are.



Someone needs to get a grip or Jack Thompson or whatever his name is will smell the trouble from accross the atlantic and fly over X)



Sony and Insommniac did a great job on the game, and it's clear who's in the wrong here.

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# Insominac?Guest 2007-06-11 00:49
Insomniac Games sure are luck, being completely overlooked in this case. After all the are the developers :/

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# lolGuest 2007-06-11 01:03
The church of England might not be catholics..



but...



the Church of England has catholic traditions as well...and if they have catholic traditions they also have pegan traditions...

because the catholic church came from peganism...

you see all the saints people pray to???

(Bible doesn't tell you to pray to saints....it tells you to pray to God) thats peganism.....worshiping a image



theres loads of things i could say that goes on and on about this....



but not all Churches that consider themselves Christians are like are corrupt as this church....lol

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# Not religionGuest 2007-06-11 01:38
Dont say Ful< religion, it has nothing to do with that... its just dumbas5 people in this world. Greed is a sin they just committed

& now im gonna play in the church a lot more in resistance (which is FAKE) (& now that i know what it is). Because really if they never went public with this I wouldn't have known its a real place

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# "nothing but a joke"...Guest 2007-06-11 01:40
The church arent intersted in the game having scenes involving there church, all they want is money..!!!

how can you call them sick and demand it be taken from the shelves and banned, then say if they give them a cut off the money (as a so called donation) then they can carry on..

they are only in it for a slice off the money.. if they were to try and sue "Sony" they wouldnt have a leg to stand on the game is great, it is a fictatious game and is harming no-one, just like all the other games out there with violence, drugs, corruption, etc.. its a game

"GET OVER YOURSELF"

well im off to the playstion web to shoot a few more enemys online in the manchester cathedral level.(its great)

Well done SCEE, keep those games coming...

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# Mr common senseGuest 2007-06-11 01:48
Yo shut da Fu)< up and geta damn life son ova b1tch. Theres no other good FPSs out right now, even on da 360. But das gunna change by the end of the year on da PS3.

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# You think this is just about money?!?!Guest 2007-06-11 01:59
I think you are all forgetting that this kind of thing is what is responsible for problems in terrorism, this game, albeit a quite good game all round, is offending a religion by using their place of worship as a battlefield.

I live in Manchester and am not particularly bothered about them using Manchester as one of the main stages of combat because it is kinda putting us on the maps.

The arguments that the church is making is that Sony has besmirched the church by waging war inside one, although the kind of donations they are requesting are rather rediculous, the purpose behind their request is valid and I wish people would give this a bit more understanding before jumping the gun and calling the church a whole load more names.

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# heheGuest 2007-06-11 02:09
i will paint my PS3 white and make a logo of the Church of england on top of it

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# church of england are thugs!Guest 2007-06-11 02:16
what a bunch of crooks! they are soooo corrupt its like davinci code all over again

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# yo, people are misleaded hereGuest 2007-06-11 02:24
all accusations on sony are all CRAP.

they are succeeding because the main goal is to give Sony a BAD REPUTATION.

bluray coating, security software and this 3d graphical england church all these are part of the conspiracy to take down Sony. prepare yourselves people, sony will still be bombarded by bogus accusations. its up to the wise public to notice such BS

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# Making CoE Halo MapGuest 2007-06-11 02:24
As we speak I am currently developing a CoE Halo map. This just makes me wanna go in there with guns a blazing! Btw Miss. Thompson is one of the quior boys. :)

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# Ha!Guest 2007-06-11 02:40
No one thinks of this kill people in church crap from a game and if you do, you are probably sick-minded.



Church is only bringing this on themselves, i never thought about the church as a fighting place anyway. In what way is this church in the game poisoning children?



Three words: They want money.



Its apparent just looking at the article. LMFAO, i mean a "donation". LOL Man, this is hilarious. I hope they take legal action so i can see the result. "ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE - CHURCH LOSES LAWSUIT AGAINST SONY!"

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# ~Guest 2007-06-11 03:02
The thing is that they preach that god will forgive yo if you come clean and atone for your sins in some way. OtherwordS; Do as you please, suck up to jesus and entry into heaven is a fact (Y)

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# it wouldn't be much of a good ideaGuest 2007-06-11 03:04
Sony is really only doing well in PAL territories at the moment. Suing a European church probably won't help all that much.

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# 456Guest 2007-06-11 03:07
they have no authority there..

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# ~Guest 2007-06-11 03:17
That would make a great headline yea :P



Sony beating down some religion in court. Ah those would be the days ^^

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# Resistance: Fall of ManGuest 2007-06-11 03:32
dumbest thing i have ever read. this make Jack Thompson look like a genius!

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# msgtauk 2007-06-11 03:48
can take gow of the shelves as well then as they have lots of stolen $

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# EvilGuest 2007-06-11 03:57
Nah man, the love of money is the root of evil. Is that not evident in this case?

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# DissagreeGuest 2007-06-11 04:07
I dissagree with the whole deal, many games have pictured violent things in cathedrals and churches. Ever play black? i mean cmon they just want money. Its not like christianity should be valued anymore then any other religion look at how many games go around saying killin muslims, its ridiculos they just want the money. I mean if you cant go in a game and shoot up a church or a city street people are still going to want to see it happen and with out video games it might actually come to pass.

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# wowGuest 2007-06-11 04:21
this is ridiculous 1st. sony didn't make this game why are they being sued?2nd isn't that church in a game i own o maybe just renamed church of the nine ring a bell? 3rd why is the church demanding a donation no ones hurt its not like we destroyed their church 4th this is b.s. see ya crimson raging hellgate london

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# get lostGuest 2007-06-11 04:36
Resistance shouldnt dare give them anymoney.

If anything, they should put a extra multiplayer game for R:FoM on PSN, where you have to hunt the pope down, then blast him with your Augers. =D

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# the popeDatnizzle 2007-06-11 04:44
the POpe dosen't like video games because of the ww2 shooters. He sees all his nazi freinds getting killed and he dosen't like it. I think in the next game there should be a nazi with a younger version of the pope's face. That would be too real, I'm sure.

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# Stupid church of england.god0fgod 2007-06-11 04:53
I hate religous groups. They think they can do anything and people must obey them. Sony should say stuff you stupid church.

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# monkey worshippersGuest 2007-06-11 05:27
at the end of the day this is just another case of a group of people blaming video games for todays moral problems, they never take it out on telly or films, Dr who had a battle in a church but wheres the producers law suit? res evil 2 film has a priest being shot in the head, law suit? no, so whats next? NEWS FLASH Vegetarians sue Nintendo over abuse of carrots in cooking Mama on the Wii !!! come on people get real and get a life, if there was a god (not saying there is or isnt) then he would have a hi-speed internet connection having a laugh with jesus and his disciples on motorstorm or quake or sumat JUST LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE LIKE DOING!

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# concole warGuest 2007-06-11 05:31
i think that its a big pay off by somebody. not saying its M$ but think of it. ever sence e3 05( when sony announced the ps3) everybody and their grandma has been trying to milk sony. so that means that sony was just the number 1 hardware company and decided to start killing goats, and stealing when they announced the ps3. it makes no sence. there was no bad new about sony until they started with the ps3. and i know that this doesnt have anything to do with sales, but if the ps3 is doing soo bad, wouldent sony loose money, why go after a falling company. you wont get that much money.



it all started at E3 05

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# ...Guest 2007-06-11 06:28
actually the ps3 is doing pretty good in all the territories its available in

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# mehGuest 2007-06-11 06:31
i hate religion

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# WowGuest 2007-06-11 06:33
word can't even describe this hot mess. to think they would sue now after the game has been release and then for something that was just a back drop in the game....just sad

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# AT - Common SenseGuest 2007-06-11 07:17
Hi Mister Common Sense,

Wow! I never thought you would stoop so low! I seem to remember you taking potshots at Quixand for some to-and-fro between him/her and some other XBox fanboys.

To date, I've called you out questioning your integrity (and bias concerning the 360 and PS3) and so far you've failed to respond even once.

Do you just keep searching this website for any news of PS3 just to add your own 2 cents (which, now, in my opinion are worthless) just because you grudge your inability to get a PS3, or are you really (as some readers on this website accuse you of) a Microsoft-paid hack who earns his/her salary by bashing/bad-mouthing PS3 articles?

If you have any integrity (or guts), come out and answer these questions.

Regards,

MTK

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# Babylon in actionGuest 2007-06-11 08:21
Someone put a subpoena in the collection plate! Its bad enough clergymen actually preach to you, marry you, pray for you, and bury you for pay (didn't Jesus say 'you received free so give free'?) but to demand a 'donation' just tops it all. And because they were offended? Get real. They need Jesus.

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# Hmm...Guest 2007-06-11 08:42
I don't see how the church has a case against resistance. I'm no lawyer, but I believe that it is ok to use public buildings in other media, such as games, without permits. That is what GTA4 is doing and even though NY is up in arms about it they legally cannot do a thing.

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# wait waitGuest 2007-06-11 09:17
isn't in resistance yur saving the church from these devilish godless monsters?

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# who cares?Guest 2007-06-11 12:54
it is just a game, and I believe most of the gamers will be able to distinguish what is real and what is not.

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# extortions by the church?senjutsu 2007-06-11 13:07
Now the church is trying to extort money from companies? Wow, what an exemple to set, when their religion wants them to promote peace... Anyway, it this cathadral is public, I don't see why we couldn't do movies and games in it... Anyway, in the davinci code, we saw cathedrals and murder to be linked, in the book AND the movie AND the video game, so I don't see their point...

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# I want u to tell them somthingGuest 2007-06-11 13:39
i understand da whole thing. But its FAKE! they act like gamers r stupid + will bring a gun in there. Its basically saying if u watch bad things you become bad. N tell them its INSOMNIAC NoT SONY

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# Its...Guest 2007-06-11 13:46
Not a damn donation if you demand it. They should just say give us money and we'll shut up about it.

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# wtfGuest 2007-06-11 15:34
F[_]ck the church....

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# What a jokeGuest 2007-06-11 18:15
Sacreligious? We all know science disproves every religion there is. Freedom of choice i say, if your religious then you dont buy the game... simple.



Its not like sony knock on your door trying to preach to you to buy the game.



And i agree with the general consensus here, its all about money. An Utter disgrace!

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# Forgot to addGuest 2007-06-11 18:22
Oh i forgot to add, religions and the the church have spilled more blood in history than anything else, and that isn't virtual aliens! its real lives

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# patheticGuest 2007-06-11 18:26
wtf were they thinking asking for a "donation". with all their holy wisdom they could for see how the general public would interpret such a demand?



pretty stupid (and transparent) move imo

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# FunnyGuest 2007-06-11 20:43
How theres a fuss when the killing is done in there house? LoL Its only a game!!

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# LolB!g Bo$$ 2007-06-12 03:04
Lol, you're pretty stupid if you think that we are the only creatures in the entire universe. Think about it has nothing to do with religion.

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# wGuest 2007-06-12 09:10
The church of inglan is in a secret gov plot with U.s. to drive out japan's wares from america, so japan looses its funding for the secret japan-russia arms trade. then when everyone knows hiroshima and ww3 will start!

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