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CES 09 - Microsoft answers back to Sony's "peddling" comment

Posted Jan 9, 2009 at 3:06PM EST by Glenn M.

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony
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Xbox 360 - Image 1


After calling Nintendo and Microsoft "add-on peddlers" (in an official press release no less), Sony definitely had this coming. Microsoft issues a reply, emphasizing that the Xbox 360 is in a much better place than the PlayStation 3, subtly enumerating reasons how that came to be.

"First, I would say we absolutely would not want to trade places with Sony," said Aaron Greenerg, group product manager for Xbox 360. "We feel like being half the price of the PS3 served us quite well this holiday."

"At the end of the day, consumers vote with their dollar," he added. "I don't think people take comparison grids into retail stores," citing Sony's comparison chart of the three consoles's features.

PS3 - Image 1


It's been like this for a long time. Naturally, each console would play their strengths up.

PS3 vs. Xbox 360, it's been going on and on. Debating here we come. Why can't we just agree to disagree on this one? Why go through the extra trouble trying to persuade and debate when nothing is resolved? Either side is just as convicted as the other that his is the better console, and neither side is willing to back down anyway. Why bother? Too much effort, really. My two cents.



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# Eh.....Lethal_NFS 2009-01-09 17:27
Everyone knows the 360 has peaked already and is on its way down while the PS3 is only getting better.

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# wow he just said!!!Rei64 2009-01-09 17:32
that the consumers don't know any better so they by a 360. lmao at least that what is sounds like...he should have phrased that better.

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# MS and their fanboys should be ashamedroddollente 2009-01-09 17:33
because a crappy hardware with that high of a failure rate will NEVER cost $400, even on its launch. that is just total BS. and here we are, happy about the price cut? if they cut the price and still makes profits, then what does that tell you at its $400 launch, eh? the $300 price tag should be the launch price, simply because it is not worth past that. it's funny when people think that MS made the right choice blah blah. this just means people who bought it for more that $300 were ripped. plain and simple. not a sony fanboy, but believe me when i say the Wii & ps3 are quality hardwares. very low failure rates. it's like purchasing a t.v. that will only work for a couple of months or so. wow. why can't people realize that simple analogy?

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# Pretty muchMaster Chef 2009-01-09 17:47
If it's cheaper, people buy it, the hell with what it does.

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# heyskidz 2009-01-09 18:03
People like to play games on their game systems, so its a no brainer they choose the 360. The 360 is aimed at the American user more than anything, while the PS3 is concentrating more on the Japanese audience ( Home Base ). I choose 360 originally because of this, and so far even though I have got a couple red rings the system is still a hell of a lot better than the PS3 in terms of generally playing games. I only use my PS3 to play PS2 games and blu-ray movies.



I think most of the American market feel the same way about the systems, I don't think Sony will ever pull themselves up in America.



As for Lethal_NFS comment, the Wii isn't a powerful system yet it outsells both. It does so because of the whole active group gameplay style which casuals really love, and the general gamer base these days are just casuals so that's a no brainer as well.



The PS3 and 360 are fighting for the hardcore player base, but again I feel the 360 will never be dethroned in the America simply because its primarily designed for the American gamers.

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# You forgetAllstaraugustine 2009-01-09 18:08
that the controller for playstation is much more fit for playing any kind of game besides a shooter... which concludes that the only games that your playing on your 360 are Halo and gears.. the only games i kept for my 360 are Vegas 2 and Mass effect. The PS1 had the best games, the PS2 had the best games, and in the not so distant future, the PS3 will also have the best games available (or all the game companies will just start going multiplatform)

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# Awww, why'd I get sad faces?Master Chef 2009-01-09 18:10
Just stating a fact, Americans don't research or really even read packages in the stores, so put a $200 console with nothing to it next to a $400 console that does everything, they pick the $200 one



Sony needs to lower the price if they want to be competitive again, twice the price of Xbox is too much now

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# Seriouslydemologik 2009-01-09 18:21
I have both systems, but since I recently got my ps3, I've not even turned on my 360. The graphics are like night and day for me on my 52" Samsung LCD panel. The 360 simply does not look as good as the ps3 does on my set.



Furthermore, in order to achieve similar features that I have on my ps3, on the 360 I would have to spend roughly the equivalent of what the ps3 would cost to begin with. So to me, with the PS3 you drop all your money down at once, the 360 just drains it from your wallet over time. While you've already paid off the Ps3, you're still paying off your 360 to achieve a similar feature set.



/2cents

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# Not reallyMaster Chef 2009-01-09 18:31
The 360 controller beats the PS3 one in just about every way except for the d-pad. The sticks are much more tight and responsive, and they are not aligned like on the PS3 controller which (to me anyway) feels much more natural and comfortable, and easier to work with.



The 360's trigger + bumpers also feel much better to me, same as the the sticks they feel more responsive. And I can't stand R2 and L2 on the PS3 controller, they just feel cheap to me



Even PS staples like MGS feel better on a 360 controller to me, as soon as I plugged my 360 pad into my PC to play MGS2 my first thought was "this is so much better".



Maybe it's preference, but

unaligned thumbsticks >>> aligned thumbsticks.

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# nicekazman 2009-01-09 18:33
why do you guys sit around and troll. and i wont use the no good games on the ps3 because i own one to. the ps3 rocks for blu ray and has a few decent games. 360 is set up better and it has alot better games. (FLAMES ARE COMING) i also own a wii. so here it is!! if u dont like 360 the f@#k off and stop acting like a mac fanboy and troll your own sites. GOD D#M this is old u dont see xbox guys on ps3 sites. nice this is yor problem right here. http://www.ps3mob.com/ps3-console-hardware/829-xbox-360-sucks.html

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# History RepeatingViphid 2009-01-09 18:36
Microsoft trailed in the last console war.



They were the ones that made a list like this in 2002 or 2003. When they were desperate.



They were the ones who had the superior, more expensive system.



They were the ones whose 3rd party games suffered from PS2 ports rather than devs taking advantage of the system properly.



They were the ones who made a less defective system then the PS2.



Then they got smart, followed and improved upon Sony's strategy.



They came out first with a good system in this generation. Easy to develop on. Multi-functioning.



They kept improving their excelent online service and had the good sense to skip Blu-Ray and HD-DVD as their gaming format. Chose to back digital downloads as the future of media.



Now Sony is desperate.



Now they make the lists.



Now all Sony fan boys know what XBOX gamers had to go through.



Now XBOX fan boys know how great it is to have the system even Wii gamers want to play... how great it used to be for Sony-philes.



-V

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# .....darknaiyo 2009-01-09 18:47
most people i know have symmetrical hand so ill stick to the dualshock 3

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# hahaViphid 2009-01-09 18:51
PS3 launched and houses burned. But let's forget that for a minute. It's simple, when there were more PS2's in the market, they kept breaking. Remember all those lawsuits Sony went through? 4 out of every 10 PS2's lasted 6 months. Sorry, I've had no ring of death and I have 3 XBOX 360's in the house. Still won't buy a PS3, Sony can keep crying.



-V

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# ...Silver-Tiger 2009-01-09 18:53
well, I I prefer the PS3 controller simply because I'm used to it. I own a Psone, a PS2, PSP and I even have a lookalike PS controller for my PC.

Not saying the 360 is bad, but I'm just more used to to a PS controller and I'm sure a lot of the gamers out there are in the same boat as me.

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# ...landon05 2009-01-09 19:02
Glenn M....



Why don't you guys just disable comments for news like this...?



...



?

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# um causekazman 2009-01-09 19:06
sony fans like it thats why they post. and this site gets more hits. sorry QJ its true

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# as i PS3 fansQuixand 2009-01-09 19:20
i was a bit upset with Sony's "peddling" comment...



they shouldn't have said that.



i know the 360 people always go to the media and mouths off, Aaron and Shane has been the most guilty of this ever since Moore left.



Sony shouldn't have lowered themselves to this "no class" status that is often shown by xbox execs.

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# YamagushiQuixand 2009-01-09 19:42
enlighten me



why is the PS3 a *****ty product?



you call it a "*****ty product" you better have a reason for it.

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# Soooo funnyBUS DR1V3R 2009-01-09 20:24
Sony just keeps kicking themselves in the nuts with this dumb stuff. How can any "hardcore" gamer seriously prefer the PS3. What do you do after you get done playing its 25 games? Seriously, who gives a ***** about blu-ray? I have a PS3, 4 Xbox 360, a Wii, and a bad ass 50" 1080p 120hz motion processing and I would rather play my Xbox any day. Not to mention a better game selection, how about better gameplay. Not to mention I don't have to spend 45 minutes updating the firmware everyday so some japanese kid cant play emulators using some stupid ass PS3 hack. How about a linux operating system that my calculator could run faster? It is a multimedia machine, not a gaming machine. Oh, and the Playstation Network is lagaliscious, try and deny it.

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# sorry butQuixand 2009-01-09 20:57
anybody here think the post above has any semblance of maturity??? in any part of his post??? anything at all??



anybody???



and that's the reason why nobody would take anything you say seriously.

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# none..ConXept 2009-01-09 21:01
None whatsoever, just your standard fanboy, Let them be.

I've learned to ignore their comments.

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# pfft....like i give a d@mn what you think yamagushidarknaiyo 2009-01-09 21:01
i said "ill stick" as in its my opinion, im not ruled by what majority thinks or does, a couple of weeks ago my friend brought his 360 to my house and we had a blast playing halo3, when i get my 360(elite of course) it will be so i can have fun with it. it is scums like you that make people hate the 360 even more so stop forcing your ideals onto others(which by the way you wrote many pointless paragraphs and i read a book on the wonders of the chaos theory)and play your console already

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# wow....BUS DR1V3R 2009-01-09 21:10
I'm immature? Because I am the sony fanboy spamming the 360 blogs? You're right. We should all aspire to be just like you guys.



Cool points + 10

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# wow 4 360narutosaiyan 2009-01-09 21:17
ur a moron... but thats not what i wanna say. i wanted to ask what the huge library on 360 is, n what u play all the time... n dont tell me halo 3 or Gow3 cuz i seen em in action n they suck. SO what does 360 have that ps3 doesnt? What about 09, where r 360s games? ur obviously an idiot for saying ur 360 games look betr than ur ps3 games on an hdtv. but i dont feel like getting into that. the thing is eventually ur 360 will rrod... n ull play on ur ps3 cuz ur a hypocrite. but that doesnt bother me ive made the smart decision n threw away my 360. I mean Killzone, Infamous, GOW3, n FFvs13 r coming soon... let me just say that i was in the killzone beta, n it blows any shooter out of the water. dont get me wrong COD4 is the best shooter evr, n will be untill february 27th. (thats the day 360 fans will be saying how much KZ2 sux n ps3 has no good games in order to feel betr about themselves) wait! they r already doing that! n PSN doesnt lagg u shud check ur connection

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# way to goQuixand 2009-01-09 21:26
backpedal



funny how when people can't stand by what they said they just do a quick turnaround...



and for the record, in the industry when talk of *****ty product comes up it usually means one thing....



RROD



now go and backpedal a bit more ok...

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# maybe you shyould check out the link belowQuixand 2009-01-09 21:30
http://ps3.qj.net/CES-09-Microsoft-answers-back-to-Sony-s-peddling-comment/pg/49/aid/127860



that's the link for this page... what comes after "http" it's read as "PS3.QJ.NET"...



there is no "sony fanboy" here "spamming the 360 blogs"... but simply posting on an article on a PS3 blog.



Your Stupidity + 10 Mr. Cool Guy

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# dudeStingBlah 2009-01-09 22:02
80 GB ps3 is the least expensive.

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# I would neverStingBlah 2009-01-09 22:04
sacrifice my precious D-Pad!!

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# huhStingBlah 2009-01-09 22:13
"At the end of the day, consumers vote with their dollar," he added. "I don't think people take comparison grids into retail stores,"



Wow he basically said that the consumers are idiots, they go for the lowest price tag and take it. They (fortunately) don't take comparison grids...lol if they did Xbox would be screwed over.



Hey, ignoring this fanboy *****, lets have a discussion. What does Xbox have that PS3 doesn't? Xbox fans, whatever you do you've got to admit the Ps3 library is just as good as Xbox library. The main good games of '08 were multiplatform, and each as its own set of exclusives. I prefer PS3 for its variety.



And also, there is no difference between XBL and PSN. It all has to do with your own connection.

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# this whole fanboy thing has gone too farsesa 2009-01-09 23:57
So what if people chooses 360 over PS3 or vice versa?

If you have more money, go buy PS3. If you don't, a 360 or a Wii will do just fine.

I miss the days where gamers only known as "gamers", not "fanboys" who loved to brag and debate about whatis and whatnot.

Should you all know, those console companies had only one motive in their mind: Profit Margin.

You can say consumer's satisfaction but it's only because it generates money.



BTW, before judging me; I'm also a gamer. I own a Nintendo, Sega, Super Nintendo, Sega Saturn, PSX, PS2, PSP and I'm planning to buy both 360 and PS3 for the sake of the exclusives.

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# Mmm...superjake 2009-01-09 23:57
Personally I don't know why people keep going on about which console is best by the price for it etc. I brought a PS3 because I prefer the games that are and will come out for it. I still think that the 360 is a highly successful console but the 360 exclusive games just don't interest me so I got the PS3 instead for the likes of MGS4. However now I'm a bit gutted that games that WERE PS3 exclusive, like FFXIII and Tekken 6, are coming out for both :P



I think that people should stop deciding which console is better by how much they are or what they can do but rather what games are out for them. After all, that's what we use them for.

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# MS History Repeatingsolid0snake 2009-01-10 00:18
@Viphid



The PS3 is no way anything the Xbox1 was. Even with is high price the ps3 is selling as good as the 360.



In 2 Years they selled 20 Mio units. Much more the 360 had. If u consider that the 360 had 1 year headstart.



PS3 is gaining momentum and by end of 2009 every 360 gamer will have a ps3. believe me.

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# hmmmmPS34ME 2009-01-10 00:24
"Sony shouldn't have lowered themselves to this "no class" status that is often shown by xbox execs."



i dont see where microsoft execs have been any worse than sony execs in the past. you're right to be upset with the peddling comment, but please lets not act like this is new territory for sony.



both see the other as the main competitor, and therefore each take pot shots at the other, which means there will be times when one of them goes a bit too far (although not everyone will agree of course).

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# you know somethingthe by 2009-01-10 01:43
i've been reading on this site for over a year and its nothing but fanboy this that and whatever. I own a ps2, ps3 and a psp!



the best console that i have owned though were all sega, yet when theywere around, there was none of this fanboy crap, so where has it steemed from? i can only assume its because of the youth today.



i'm 31 years old, when it came to buying my console, i looked through all the reviews, and yeah the 360 did have loads of games, but to hell with being consoleless if the

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# sorry got cut off!!the by 2009-01-10 01:50
as i was saying!!



to hell with being consoleless if the 360 is gonna break down at some point, till microsoft sends another one out, and don't get me started with the disc scratching, coz that is 100% unacceptable. if i had a hifi that did

that, it would be back to the store and they would be told where to shove it!!



I would rather pay for something that has taken a year longer to get out properly, its like buying a car. would you buy a lada, or a ford?



and thats the question everyone should ask when buying anything, not just consoles!!



end of rant!

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# ...BIH 2009-01-10 02:33
Only decent comment in the whole article. Seems some idiots are too attached to their consoles "Quixand"

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# Master Chef + Failprojectionist 2009-01-10 02:52
Yeah, all Americans just look at a price tag and don't care what product is inside.



Really smart move.



The reality is, the Xbox 360 has a far superior game line-up and online service, and the PS3 is a better SYSTEM, but terrible games and is really only useful for playing Blu-rays.

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# problem is solid0snakePS34ME 2009-01-10 03:06
whilst the ps3 has gained momentum in 2008, the 360 has gained even greater momentum in comparison, and so has extended its lead over ps3 by millions (now about 8m). the ps3 won't clawed any of that back until it has a price cut, which i really really hope is coming soon. so if you really think every 360 owner will have a ps3 by the end of this year, then you're delusional. :-)



@viphid - we can all take history and make it fit in with today's world, but this is usually achieved by leaving out the things that don't fit (the lead format ps2 was the most difficult to program, unlike the 360 this gen. ports from ps2 to xbox still resulted in better xbox versions for multiformat games, unlike 360 to ps3 this gen. and i could name more). Also, HD-DVD was for movies only on the 360, not games. So let's look at history for what it is....the past.

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# To Viphidbradman4 2009-01-10 03:07
Ps2's never actually broke they got dirty on the inside really easly i opened up my friends cuase it was "broken" i wiped up all the dust and it works perfectly

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# i don't care...jac_the_ripper 2009-01-10 03:08
i have both 360 and ps3, my prediction is that sony would switch places with microsoft because in the last generation, xbox didn't have many exclusives, that was the reason many people bought the ps2, and now sony is using the same formula. to be honest they are not many 360 exclusive in the past, the only titles i can think of r gears 1 & 2, halo, and forza, don't go mad at me because i play the 360 more than my ps3, i play gears 2, and i am wait for killzone 2, mag, dc universe online, fat princes, infamous, and last but not least god of war 3. the only 360 exclusive that i think which will be released in the future is star ocean, but it is a timed exclusive.

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# so...you don't have either as of now...StingBlah 2009-01-10 04:48
Once you get a ps3 you will see why we defend it.

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# @stingblahBUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 05:23
I do have a PS3 and I don't understand why people defend it. I have had it since release day and still don't own a game for it. It is a cool machine, just doesn't really do games very well in my opinion.



Xbox 360 has several good exclusives in the works.

Alan Wake

Halo Wars

Star Ocean 4

Halo 3 ODST

Forza 3

Mass Effect 2

Dont forget that Gears of War 3 is in the works

Bioshock 2 will also be a timed exclusive on the 360



Thats just off the top of my head.

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# I will get bothsesa 2009-01-10 05:44
because I loved both MGS4 and Gears of War

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# The 360 is coolNavani 2009-01-10 06:35
But I think the PS3 will last longer.. Just because of the technology and potential it has.. It might not be immediate, but this is really why we get new consoles. New technology has more potential, the PS3 hasn't reached its potential yet and I'll bet Sony won't be releasing any new game systems until they make a nice profit on the PS3. Personally, I miss the Dreamcast =( and Jaguar CD lol

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# .93pauott 2009-01-10 07:20
i love and protect the PS3 because of all the features and good games it has.



if i want some of my pictures printed, i just print em via the canon printer i have connected to my ps3.



if i wanna watch movies, i buy videos in FullHD 1080p or i go to youtube and i watch random stuff.



if i wannna play games, i play games like Warhawk, resistance, motorstorm 1 and 2, uncharted, pain, and alot of ps2 games + some multiplat games like burnout paradise.



if i wanna listen to music, yea... well, first of all i need music... because my music folder is kind of empty, lol.



if i want to use Linux, i simply boot linux, cuz i alredy installed it. from there, i do stuff like homeworks in open office, and so on. because of the keyboard and mouse support, i simply use it as a normal computer.

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# kazman...xploren 2009-01-10 08:09
The comments seem to be linked on QJ if the article is for multiple blogs. If it's on both the 360 and PS3 blogs, they have the same comments. If you didn't notice, I'm reading your comment on the PS3 blog. Also, I definitely see lots of 360 fanboys on PS3 sites.



He wasn't trolling at all. He was telling what he thought of both systems. Tell your 360 fanboys they same "if u dont like 360 the f@#k off" thing, but replace 360 with PS3. You'll be doing the world a huge favor.

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# *sigh*xploren 2009-01-10 08:12
"sony fans like it thats why they post." Have you noticed the huge amount of 360 fanboys on this site? Don't blame it on PS3 owners, whether they're fanboys or not. Read my other reply to your comment above.

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# F*ck off.xploren 2009-01-10 08:25
Blu-ray is for the people who want it. If you don't want it, go with the 360. No big deal.



If you would rather play your Xbox, go do it. We don't give a sh*t, really.



Better game selection? Maybe, in your opinion, but better gameplay? Nah. There may be a few more bugs in PS3 versions of multiplatform games, but most "bugs" are fabricated by 360 fanboys, it seems. I've never encountered much bugs while playing games on my PS3.



Updating the firmware improves the system. If you don't like more features for free, don't have a fast Internet connection, and can't wait just 20-40 minutes, you don't need a PS3.



The ability to even have Linux on a PS3 is great. If it doesn't run fast, go use it on your computer.



Yeah, it's a multimedia machine. It's a great one, at that. If you don't want other media on your PS3, use your other consoles.



I might be disconnected from the PSN once in a while, but never while playing a game. It's a great online service.



So if you prefer your 360, no big deal. Not at all. Seriously, we don't give a sh*t about anyone's preference, okay? Well, other than the fanboys.

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# You are a god.xploren 2009-01-10 08:28
Smartest thing I've ever read on QJ. But that's because it's infested with idiots.

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# QJ should really clarify...xploren 2009-01-10 08:32
360 fanboy comments on our PS3 blog, too. That's because articles in multiple blogs all have the same comments. In other words, they're linked. So your cool points, -10.

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# F**king BabiesDarkAssassin 2009-01-10 08:36
First of all how old are we people, you guys sound like a bunch of baby in a playground...oh mine is better then your, no mine is better then yours crap....holy f**k GROW THE F**K up. What ever happened to just playing your darn games and enjoying them holy.....Who cares what system you have whether it be PS or M$ or Nintendo, while you guys are in these forums bi*tching about who is better your missing out on what the systems were designed for and that is to have fun with friends and family. I don't care what anyone says to this. Well i'm off to go and play my system cause that what i bought it for....TO PLAY

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# Why?xploren 2009-01-10 08:37
Why do you not still own a game for it? There have been tons of good games coming out for it. MGS4, LittleBigPlanet , and tons of great PSN games, like Super Stardust HD and The Last Guy. It's weird how you say you don't understand why people defend it, when you don't own any games for it.

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# BIH...xploren 2009-01-10 08:40
Have you not noticed the other bumbling idiots attached to their 360s here?

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# projectionist U FAILNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 08:44
Play LittleBigPlanet . Then try and post that comment again.

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# Few more things...xploren 2009-01-10 08:51
Since when will BioShock 2 be a timed exclusive? I haven't heard anything about it. Gears of War 2 and 3 will probably come to the PC, along with Mass Effect 2.

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# BUS DR1V3RNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 08:56
You have just been DENIED.

Think before you type.

Wait...

Just don't type at all.

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# Its becauseNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 08:58
He's an Xbot probably lying about having a PS3. What's new?

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# @ explorenBUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 08:59
I don't own a game for it, but I do work at a big "game retail" store. We get to take home whatever game we would like to every day. I have taken several PS3 games home and played them, but haven't found one that suits me. Also, in my opinion, I prefer to play multi-platform games on the 360 because I prefer the controller and all the features the 360 has to offer. Just because I have not purchased any games doesn't mean I haven't played lots of them. Once again, just my opinion.



@93pauott



if i want to use Linux, i simply boot linux, cuz i alredy installed it. from there, i do stuff like homeworks in open office, and so on. because of the keyboard and mouse support, i simply use it as a normal computer.



That's fine and all, but you should really try running Linux on a pc, the ps3 doesn't allow you to really do anything. My 5 year old 600m notebook runs Linux at much greater speeds. Not to mention, what does that have to do with gaming? Sony puts restrictions on your Linux experience, and you praise them for it. I would absolutely love a restriction free experience with Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid ibex, that would be fantastic.

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# Lethal, UR RetardedMal F4cti0n 2009-01-10 09:05
I guess everyone knows that except the analysts, Sony, MS, anyone who plays games, anyone who has access the internet and anyone that is not a retard.



MS had the best christmas with Xbox 360 sales this year. Sony had the worst christmas with sales of the PS3 this year. This is when you look at sales worldwide, not just Japan.



So how can you possibly say that the PS3 is only getting better? Do you say that because the 360 kicked the PS3's ass so bad this year in sales that they can't get any worse? I wouldn't even bet on that.



I guess when you are broke, you can't get any more broke, but you certainly can end up owing more and more money. Just ask Sony. Not even their games division is making money any more.

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# SeriouslyNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 09:05
Don't even bother, dude. Your comment will achieve nothing. It's a sad thing, but hey, it's kinda fun defending you monetary investments.

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# ActuallyNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 09:09
Everything Quixand has said has made sense.

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# NoNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 09:12
We don't praise the restrictions, we praise the fact that you can do it.

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# "Game retail" store...xploren 2009-01-10 09:22
... in which you can take home any game you would like to play? GameStop, I presume?



Anyway, to the point. Which games HAVE you played? There are tons of great games on PS3, it just seems like you haven't even looked at them.

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# chillBUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 09:27
I'm not trying to start an arguement, just saying that it's not much worth doing with the restrictions. Linux distros shine with the open source games and apps that are available for them. Not only that buy different desktops, desktop effects, virtual desktops, and open source image editors like gimp and gimpshop. There just is not much that can be done other than text editing. I do have Ubuntu installed on the PS3 and I was very hopeful that it would be usable, but I was disappointed. I did a lot of tweaks and just can't get it up to par with what I would use it for.

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# games playedBUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 09:35
I have played

Assassins Creed

Ratchet + Clank: ToD

Little Big Planet

Resistance

DBZ Burst Limit

Metal Gear Solid 4

Haze

MotorStorm

Ridge Racer 7



There are a few off the top of my head....I welcome some recommendations .....I would love to find a great PS3 game to play....maybe that would make me appreciate the hardware a little more

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# OkNine_Masquerade 2009-01-10 09:43
You are not human if you didn't like LBP. MGS4...I mean story mode?? Dude c'mon it's like you in a movie!- the motorcycle chase was EPIC! And as far as recommendations go Uncharted was amazing (very cinematic experience) and...KILLZONE 2!!! (once it comes out)

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# Well....BUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 09:48
I did like Little Big Planet.....kind of kiddie, but addictive none the less. I did not really care for MGS4, too much sneaking, I will probably get flamed for that but it's not my style. I may go this afternoon and try out Uncharted, I have heard good things about it. I have to try out Mercenaries 2 right now.

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# Mercs 2?xploren 2009-01-10 11:24
Why the hell are you trying out Mercs 2 for when you can play Uncharted? Mercs 2 is one of the worst games of 2008. I played the demo for 4 minutes, then quit right away. Terrible game.

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# yeah I just figured that outBUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 11:42
original xbox could have easily run that game. Wow. I'm going to check out Uncharted in a little while :)

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# he won't notice thatQuixand 2009-01-10 12:40
cause he doesn't take offense to this bumbling 360 fans cause he's one of them...



you see he sees me as attached to my console but all i did in the entire article was block all the nonsense of xbox morons...



like saying:



"pls explain makes the ps3 ****ty?"



asking people if they think driver's idiotic rumblings made sense..



telling him as well that this is not just an xbox blog...



did you see me say anything about the PS3, of how good it is and such??? come on check.



i'm just challenging xbox fans to make logic of what they say before they type it (in which they can't, bunch of kids)... apparently that makes me attached to my console and you know why??? cause BIH is attached to his that's why he takes offense to the smallest slight.



the guy's a fanboy... a stupid one at that.

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# ...Tyrant156 2009-01-10 14:36
lol ouch....

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# ....Tyrant156 2009-01-10 16:01
How does the PS3 not do games well when both systems shared 90% of the same games in 08 and got the same review scores. Both systems have great games, actually theres too many good games because i can't even afford all of them so i have to pick and choose which ones I want. The not enough games argument is getting so old...

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# ...Tyrant156 2009-01-10 16:04
My comments were better than your comments so nyaaaah!

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# it's all about moneyunexpected 2009-01-10 16:06
people buy xbox360s because they are feel ok buying a console that is not really on the HD edge but looks nice, and because it's cheaper but you can't compare xbox360 with the potential of the ps3...never

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# BUS DRIVERTyrant156 2009-01-10 16:11
You know you can run about 2000+ MAME games emulated through Linux on the PS3. You asked what Linux has to do with gaming well there is your answer. Here's the link from this very site

http://ps3.qj.net/More-emulation-MAME-on-PlayStation-3/pg/49/aid/73460

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# OMFGstressfactor381 2009-01-10 16:36
U guys quit arguing over a game system I am a 27 year old man looking for another man if u feel like u might be interested please reply back thanks

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# ....Tyrant156 2009-01-10 17:09
Heh this is a gaming forum not some dating service.

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# YOU FAILprojectionist 2009-01-10 18:12
i own a PS3 and LBP, and I don't play LBP 5% as much as my 360 line-up.



YOU FAIL.

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# I know you said it's your opinionMaster Chef 2009-01-10 18:32
But your hands have nothing to do with it, it's all in the way your brain interprets the controller. Most people who really give it time agree that the 360 pad's design just makes much more sense. Hard to explain other than that



Go to any site where they play games competitively and just about everyone there will tell you the 360 controller beats the PS controller. The level of precision you can have with the 360 sticks is just not possible on the loose, symmetrical PS sticks.

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# Ah So...Viphid 2009-01-10 19:23
But the wise will always learn from the past. Otherwise mistakes will be repeated. Sony tried to be the bigger and better system, waited a year and trail in last place.



Microsoft wanted to enter the gaming industry, made the bigger and better machine. Trailed in 3rd place.



History repeated. Point goes to Microsoft for learning from it's mistakes and taking advantage of the situation. Ohhhhhhh snap!!!



-V

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# @ XplorenAlcantara617 2009-01-10 19:23
OOOOMMMMG FINALLY I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT GLORIFIES PSN TITLES!!! several psn titles are amazing, especially super stardust, theres also echochrome, lumines is addicting, the last guy was cool.



quick note: go farther down for my rant

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# well actually...Alcantara617 2009-01-10 19:30
mgs4 actually more gives u the option to sneak... having the store in the pause menu gave u option, if u ran out of ammo just buy some, you could either go rambo or if you wanted to you could jus sneak.. i did both at times, thats one of the things i loved about it, sneaking was an OPTION

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# @tyrant156BUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 19:50
I can do the same thing with my original Xbox

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# sick and tiredAlcantara617 2009-01-10 20:13
its annoying how many xbots bash the ps3 knowing more than half of them have yet to pick up a ps3 control. i know i dont know alot about the 360 and refuse to buy 1, i will never ever in my life purchase a 360. i'm not cheap, so i dont care about how everybody mentions that psn is free, its cool but not amazing. i'd gladly pay for psn too. for everybody who says who cares about blu ray, stfu, you guys are stupid, blu ray isnt just about movies, its the possibilities, ps3's hardware with the amount of content a blu ray disc can hold. lbp, and mgs4 are examples... but it doesnt end there, its not gonna end with 2 great exclusives, uncharted 2 is supposed to utilize the ps3's hardware to the fullest, killzone 2 will be amazing as well, i pray God Of War 3 will completely utilize the ps3's power... and max out the blu ray disc, like metal gear. blu ray isnt jus movies... its for those who want the most out of what they payed for (not to mention i got the 60 gig, 600 bucks). the ps3 is an amazing system.



Now back to the idiot that said the 360 is for hardcore gamers, as far as i seen the 360 is for first person shooter fiends, i haven't seen anything interesting on the 360. or at least anything that has topped the exclusives i'm already provided with my ps3. i'm a pretty damn hardcore gamer, i can get into online games like crazy, trust me, saying the ps3 isnt for hardcore gamers is just stupid, and if i'm not gaming, i'm using my ps3 for the internet, for music when i sleep, its a multimedia system that does everything it does greatly, and like someone said earlier, theres no difference between xbl and psn, its about YOUR connection.



and to whoever had the nerve to say the ps3's controller isnt as good as the 360's... wtf, unaligned sticks look pretty stupid to me, and to all the people that can't wait til tekken 6 finally comes out on the 360 as well, have fun trying to do a 10 hit combo, i love how the dualshock feels, and always will.



i dont give two sh*** about linux, thank you



for the xbots that complain about features the ps3 doesnt have.

Achievements: trophies are better, point blank

In Game Music: ps3 titles are starting to support in game playlists and i have a feeling eventually every game will.

xbox "experience": psh... like i want a mii ripoff when i have home (most detailed avatar customization ever)

The Interface: i love my xmb, i consider it better than whatever the xbox interface is called.



like i said i dont know much about the 360 to bash it, but i'm not gonna let you bash my ps3 which i believe is most likely the superior system.

thank you for reading - chris

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# sorryAlcantara617 2009-01-10 20:15
that it was so damm long, but thanks for being a trooper and reading it if u did read it.

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# yawn...BUS DR1V3R 2009-01-10 21:02
Maybe you should actually use both consoles before deciding which one is better. I actually don't need my ps3 to rock me to sleep at night either. Unlike you I do have all 3 consoles, and I am stating my opinion and I am not biased before even trying all of the consoles. As for the controller deboggle, I don't have any problems using either controller, I just prefer the Xbox 360 controller. Maybe I just have more skill than you?



No one is comparing the dashboards here, who cares about a damn avatar, really? I know when I bought my gaming consoles I thought to myself,"What kind of detail level will my digital myself have?"



Playstation home has been in development for like 3 years and it's still in Beta, and will be for a long time still. Maybe when PS7 comes out we can enjoy living in our fake digital apartments and doing the running man while standing on a table at the mall.



The PS3 does have amazing potential, I do not deny that, but why haven't we seen it yet? I'm sorry, but Home is not all that it was cracked up to be and if people can't see that it's just another way for sony to make money then they are blind.

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# mind if i chime inxche78x 2009-01-10 21:30
actually you failed projectionist!

you bought and paid for the ps3 and lbp which accounts for almost double the price of an entry xbox 360 yet you dont spend time with it. total waste of money.

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# duhxche78x 2009-01-10 21:39
if the ps dual shock design was not the best i wonder why sony opted to use it on all 3 generations of playstations. and millions of ps1 ps2 ps3 enjoyed using it!

even if ps4 comes out ill gladly use a similar controller design.



the xbox 360 controller has only 1 advantage over the playstation controllers, native support for windows PC games (MS forced this advantage). control and feel wise, millions of playstation users are comfotable with the playstation controller design.



heck even psp users are wishing psp incorporates the dual shock design. lol

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# have you seen the upcoming MS ripoff?xche78x 2009-01-10 21:47
MS made a pathetic attempt to inform the media of an upcoming LBP ripoff game.

the video of the 12 yo girl trying to explain the game is so ridiculous.



now im convinced that MS just rips every other peoples ideas/techs and sells them as their own.

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# history repeatsxche78x 2009-01-10 21:51
MS is ripping off people left and right.

latest thing their trying to copy is Little Big Planet!

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# LISTEN UP!!!demroger 2009-01-11 00:29
ALL OF U 360 FANS, GET A F>U>C>K>I>N>G LIFE U RETARDED AZZ-HOLES, PS3 IS THE BEST AND U CANNOT SAY SHIIT, MABIE PS3 IS EXPENSIVE, BUT ITS WORTH THE PRICE, FOR 360 U HAVE TO GET LIVE EVERY YEAR AND PS3 GOT ALL THE THINGS U NEED FOR FREE, DON'T SAY ANY THING ABOUT PS3 CUZ 360 AIN'T BETTER!

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# OkayMaster Chef 2009-01-11 00:45
All three PS consoles have sold to combine for more than 250 million console sales, compared to a little more than 50 million for both Xboxes. So those "millions of people" you referenced have probably never touched an Xbox or its controller, and thus have not seen the light of asymmetrical joysticks



In fact, I'd go as far as saying that if I put you in a room playing the same shooter or racing game on both consoles, switching between the two, and you told me the PS pad is better for either game, I'd think something is wrong with you



Sony can't (or won't) use similar sticks on its controller ever because they would never hear the end of it from MS and its fanboys. I have a PS3 and actually enjoy it a lot more than I thought I would, but games like Warhawk, Resistance, and Motorstorm would be infinitely better with the 360 controller

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# Maybe you care what product is insideMaster Chef 2009-01-11 00:56
But average consumers don't. Too vague I know, by Americans I meant average consumers. You're not an average consumer, average consumers are soccer moms buying sh*t for kids, people with some money to burn and don't care on what, people like that. Every time I go to a store I see idiots buying a Wii or Arcade 360, talking to sales reps, they obviously have no clue what those consoles can and cannot do, yet they buy it anyway. Seeing as how they also have no idea what the PS3 can and cannot do, they see twice the price and figure it's not worth it

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# I voted with my dollarjmak0 2009-01-11 01:48
and I voted PS3. I think the comparison chart explains only half of why PS3 is better, the other half is the games.

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# hmm....Shatterdome 2009-01-11 02:13
You can't say something is better just because more people buy it.



The vast majority of the mass market are freaking stupid....



More people eat at Mcdonalds than they do at healthy vegetarian restaraunts, or even half healthy fast food places like subway......does that mean Mcdonalds is better for you then subway or a veggetarian diet ? No, it's cheaper and is a quick route to satisfaction....that's all the masses care about.

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# to master chefbradman4 2009-01-11 05:56
Ps3 has way better controllers they are way lighter the looser joy sticks is better it make the system have more exact controls for games such as skate and other games that use both joysticks if the joysticks are not nearly as responsive as a ps3 if you played the same game on a ps3 and an xbox and put them beside each other the ps3 would be much smother and better

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# Am I the only person confused by the 360's "Better Game Lineup"thefinalhero 2009-01-11 06:31
Can someone explain to me these "tons" of better games for the 360?

Obviously excluding multi-plat games, the games must have achieved a score of an average of 8 among reviewers, and there must be some variety, I don't care if they have 20 great games if every one of them is a shooter.

Just wondering, because I've failed to find all these great exclusive games everyone is clamoring about.

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# just saying..lexbian 2009-01-11 08:27
http://www.qj.net/CES-09-Microsoft-answers-back-to-Sony-s-peddling-comment/pg/49/aid/127860



^^ i actually got to this article from the psp site, but as you can seeits neither a ps3 or 360 link.



that being said i own none of the nextgen consoles. theyre all bat***** stupidly priced. now this isnt to say i have no experience playing them. i have friends with more money than sense.



now on to the defining points of this "debate"...



the 360 DOES have a much larger library which makes it the more appealing console to the average gamer. BUT IMHO it offers little variety. i have to agree with the person who said its for fps junkies.



the ps3 IS the superior hardware. end.



capabilities: ok a) ps3 = bluray content (again i agree with whoever said this..) and bluray = 25gb while what is it MS uses in the 360 hddvd? dvd-dl? 9gb? doesnt make for a very immerwsive gaming experience. b) hard drive.. ps included 360 is $100-$150 more for one. c)wireless internet again... $100 add-on for 360, so by the time you get the 360 to the price of the ps3 it still does less and you have more cords and clutter.



controllers. yeah everyone loves the ps styled controller. thats why i see them sold everywhere for PCs. how often do you see an xbox styled controller for sale? oh wait theyre already pc compatible... but how much do they cost? my wireless dualshock style pc controller cost $20 at wal-mart. that style of controller prevails on the consumer market. FACT. imo i never liked the xbox styled controllers original ones were fat and bulky and i hated the way it felt in my hands. i hate the location of the analog sticks too. flame and cry all you want but thats MY OPINION and i have every right to it.



so if you all want to cry about whats what... in the end sony makes the superior console, microsoft has the superior library. theyre both best. but in different areas. and by the time you add wi-fi and a hard drive (necessary for DLC) your 360 is the same stupid price as a ps3 but with more junky wires to try and hide.



ill stick to rocking my psp. heaven for the gamer with a life who cant sit at home all day every day. easily repairable, easily modded (for free no less) and has a huge dev community. the ONLY console that compares to the psp was the sega dreamcast.



so all the whining is FAIL. accept facts that there are just things the 360 is better for and things the ps3 is better for. but do please try and read this gamers prediction. the ps3 will last longer than the 360 because of innate ability for DLC, firmware updates, and a wider variety of things to do.



and the wii is just lame. underpowered, lame library, and crap for graphics. ive played better looking games on my smartphone. js. whoever compared them to JAVA/Flash games was dead on the money.

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# oh yeah and...lexbian 2009-01-11 08:32
http://www.qj.net/Xbox-360-Rings-of-Death/pg/49/aid/127692



read that article where they discuss how MICROSOFT ADMITTED THAT THE RROD IS DUE TO A DESIGN FLAW. not, because of people taking poor care of them.

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# Heh... silly CheViphid 2009-01-11 10:59
I think you need to check your info. Kodu was finished over a year ago and was being tested by kids since then. They decided to release it because of the popularity of LBP. However, they are two different games. Kodu is literally a development language extreemly simplified to get kids into programing. Yea, you can design levels, but that's what coders do when developing a game. Don't go making claims you know nothing about, Che.



-V

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# No, it would not beMaster Chef 2009-01-11 17:24
Certain games are fine on both pads, like skating and sports games in general, and strategy games and such. But that is because they DON'T require precision, not because they do.



Have you ever played one of the two types of games I mentioned on a 360? Racing and shooter games are where the 360 pad really comes thru. If Halo 3 were on the PS3, and you played it against somebody on 360, you'd get dominated every match.



I'd bet the same for a racing game. The 360's triggers are incredibly sensitive, and respond to even the slightest touch. L2 and R2 on PS3 don't even compare

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# veryStingBlah 2009-01-12 05:20
VERY nicely said. Pretty much blows all Xbot arguments out of the park.



And one more thing: Once you get a PS3, the only way to lose it is by selling it, thanks to the rock solid hardware and software. Have fun RRoD'in xbots lol...

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# blu rayStingBlah 2009-01-12 05:23
holds 50 gigs, not 25...

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# nope,sickofitall 2009-01-12 10:44
this was still around with the SNES and Genesis. But I think it just really got bad once the PS3 was released.

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# ....Tyrant156 2009-01-12 20:49
What's your point?

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# ....Tyrant156 2009-01-12 21:06
You do know all three companies are in this to make money, right?

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# thank you stingblahAlcantara617 2009-01-14 20:57
i put my heart into that one, and as for bus driver... you're arguments are always stupid, as for not knowing enough about 360, i dont know about the lineup it has or whatever so called good games it has, i only hear of gears and halo.

more skilled than me?? stupid reply period, like i said the dualshock is jus overall better, has nothing to do with skill, and as for the "i own all 3 systems" big *****, this isnt about the wii, i can care less for it, still a great system though, but when i see a game that really sparks my interest in the wii i'll get it.

no one is comparing the dashboard on this topic but its a subject i've seen plenty of times in flame wars so nobody asked you.



and yes stingblah, the only way is by selling it, which only retards and drug fiends do :D

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# STFUsaldude2 2009-01-23 20:10
If u love your ps3 so much why dont you go and have s*x with it, A*s

Stupid fanboy

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# idiotpizzadad 2009-01-24 20:59
@ yamaguchi or whatever the hell you are called. You think the l2 and r2 buttons are copied from xbox? lol, if anything MS copied the L1 R1 button from the playstation, uhhh loser

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# fpizzadad 2009-01-24 21:03
i deny that PSN is as you say..... "lagalicious"? Gears of War on the other hand......ugh

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# wowpizzadad 2009-01-24 21:13
They are crappin out way too many Gears of War games and halo games. The only good 'un in that list is Star Ocean 4 and i'm really surprised that it is on the xbox much less an exclusive. Alan Wake is never going to come out as well. But theres no way you could get me to miss Versus 13, X edge, White Knight, and Yakuza 3

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