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Big Brother is watching: Sony can tap into your PSN conversations |
Listed in: PS3 Tags: headset, Pentagon, PlayStation Network, SCEA, Sony
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In case you just missed it last week, Sony updated their Terms of Use for the PlayStation Network.Apparently, not only did Sony state that they can use your content without asking for your permission; reading the finer print now, it turns out that Sony now has the right (given that you agree to the Terms, of course) to tap into your PSN convos. Though it wasn't specified, we presume this is applicable to both voice chat or text.
SCEA reserves the right to monitor and record any online activity and communication throughout PSN and you give SCEA your express consent to monitor and record your activities. SCEA reserves the right to remove any content and communication from PSN at SCEA's sole discretion without further notice to you. Any data collected in this way, including the content of your communications, the time and location of your activities, your Online ID and IP address and other related information may be used by us to enforce this Agreement or protect the interests of SCEA, its users, or licensors. Such information may be disclosed to the appropriate authorities or agencies. Any other use is subject to the terms of the applicable Privacy Policy.
A mouthful indeed, but in short, it's basically: "we're watching you." This is what's apparently at issue now though. As GameDaily points out, this throws concern over everyone's right to free speech - what with a sense of intrusion from Sony, folks talking over PSN might feel restricted and uncomfortable, maybe even violated.
I wonder though... maybe this ToS/ToU update was prompted because Sony heard of the Pentagon's research into how MMOs can be used by terrorists? They did, after all, make a bold statement about forwarding your conversations "to the appropriate authorities or agencies." Sounds serious, eh?
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this kind of ***** reminds me of the movie Eagle Eye.
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that is ur private convos, they cant ban you for saying or sending something.
but why is it named private convos..?
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it's not often nowadays that you can ask out, and then recieve an answer without flaming/hatred along with it, thanks :)
about convos,,, i don't know what it means sadle, did i include in my message since you ask?
maybe im blind (usually i am) but i can't seem to find "convos" in my message/comment...
maybe it's "convoy"... nahhh, wouldn't make any sence; but what do i know, im not even american/british (or anyother english speaken country/land)...
wow, look how long my message became, :(
i can't seem to "limit" myself.
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Sony is well within their rights to log all activity. Why wouldn't they? Everyone else does.
By law my company has to archive and record ALL EMAIL AND MESSAGING. Plus, it's a damn good idea.
Don't like it? Then build your own electronic messaging service and don't use someone elses.
I just love to listen to all the kids screech and proclaim how they DESERVE more, are DUE MORE and are having their rights taken away. It's hilarious!!!!!
What's next? Take from the rich and spread it around? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! !!!!!!!!
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and the reason WHY peeps complain is becouse america was BORN with tho's privacy freedom rights,and promised it to the people... thats why they call it "THE LAND OF THE FREE"... so wen some one explains that they are invading your privacy becouse of their own personall peranoia then there lies the problem for people to couse such worrie about there freedom rights to a social life.
yeah it may not be a suprise that they would (if not already did) do something like this,but with all the goverments currupt ways of so called "freedom" in their eyes... theres still some erea's were we can have some eas and comfort of a personall life without sharing it with others against our will,,,, BUT WEN the goverment tries to take that away from us too,THEN thats a DAMN GOOD reason to try and protect that right that was givin to us a long time ago.
so dont try and assum wut we should and should not be doing to defend our rights and take sides acting like we need a reminder some how about the corrupt goverment.
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it is nothing new, the only fact is its now written down
one communication does not mean, textual or vocal communication
if you play online you are communicating over PSN, so its now a conversation
you can send messages to minors, who are not your friend and therefore its not exactly private if your sending the same message to people you dont know,
they always did it, nothing new,
someone got offended, they report that perso
there was also a filter to stop curse words
now all it is, is maybe the filter MIGHT report you automatically for repeat offending
however the chances of this happening is slim to none, they just needed to back them selves up, incase something like this was ever needed
fact is, everyone stfu
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As sony_player already told you that's communism!!! It's exactly what Obama wants to do. Don't believe me? Watch the third and final debate. RIGHT AFTER that debate, people started JUMPING SHIP and moving over to McCain. McCain's numbers are slowly rising up and Obama's are slowing going down. He painted a LARGE communism target on his head and he drove a huge FAT nail into his coffin.
"Take money from large businesses and SPREAD IT AROUND"
As for privacy. You have no clue what you are talking about. You want your privacy? Then get off your fat, lazy ass and walk over to your friend and say what you need to say to him. When you use a PRIVATE COMPANY service to communicate OPEN TEXT to another person, your actions can and WILL be recorded.
It's ignorance like yours that so many people believe that FREEDOM means you can do whatever the hell you want and you would be dead wrong!
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There you have it everyone! emcp has spoken!!!! Everyone better stop using QJ to leave comments!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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So for anyone to complain, makes them idiot for agreeing to something they did not agree with.
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But, then, I remembered, "Yes, yes, they are." Big blue eyeballs everywhere...duh.
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Sony geekz are prolly downloading ur p.orn as well...
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you and your stup[id@sz political self (shakes head).. pitifull you care about that stuff wen nothing has changed... since you "know so much" (weather you were depicting it in yourself or not),then you should know that VOTING is a POS lie and the Gov could care less about our votes u F@g.... and dudei cant believe you uy into that presidential debate bull*****,your just as pathedic as themselve's.. oh and you are so sure to go ahead and assum that i just sitt around on my couch 24/7 slaving to qj (and im sure other game sites as well) like you do.
and also,you mentioned that my "actions can and WILL be recorded",contradicting yourself. there's a HUGE difference between CAN and WILL.. im obviously not 8 yrs old if i had to correct you on your own mistake.
im not gunna bother exlaining/correcting both you and sony_player here on wut i ment by "FREEDOM RIGHTS" in my statement. so i quess since your a stubborn fool you'll continue to plague qj with your graveyard comments on this subject.
haha communism.. pitiful children (shakes head).
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The old codger has no chance.
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I never agreed to this service. When I signed up for PSN, this was not in the agreement.
Forcing someone to imply agreement to terms created after the initial agreement is not legal.
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Isohaven, you seriously thnk that McCain can win?!?!?
Also, last time I checked the vote predictions McCain was the one whos numbers are greatly reducing.
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How can McCain not win!? Obama supports COMMUNISM!!!!
His entire tax plan is about taxing the larger companies the MOST and "spreading out their money".
I'm using the quotes for a reason. Again, don't believe it? Watch the third and final debate. Watch ANY news about the election since then. McCain stomped Obama in the last debate.
Even the media is flat out claiming Obama's comments as "sounding a lot like socialism".
The problem here is that Obama has all the kiddy votes. Kiddies are "not rich". Thus they think taking more money from those that have it and giving it to those that do not is a good thing.
Some day, all those little kiddies are going to learn better and learn what life is truly about.
Most larger companies are already prepairing for a possible Obama president and are investing their money in SAFE SECURITIES. That way, you can't tax what you do not have.
Oh and one more thing, for those of you voting for Obama simply because you THINK he's black. You're wrong. He's not black. He's not even a quarter black.
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@FreePlay - Are you serious? I didn't think even you where this ignorant. Every time you update your console you agree to a whole new set of rules.
I forget whether this ToS was in v2.5 or not. If not then it will be in the next update. So, you either HAVE agreed to it or you WILL agree to it.
Can you live with that? Or are you going to have to sell your PS3?
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PLAYSTATION®NET WORK
TERMS OF SERVICE AND USER AGREEMENT
Version 4.0 (October 15, 2008)
*updated notes in red
and then when you scroll all the way doooooown number 3 ("3. COMMUNITY CODE OF CONDUCT"), the bottom of that section has the quote (in red) which the article states: "SCEA reserves the right to monitor and record any online activity and communication throughout PSN and you give SCEA your...."
since it's in red text, that means it's been newly appended/updated/edited/rephrased from the older version.
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I think you misunderstood. Of course it's new. I never said it wasn't new. I said I didn't remember if it was added to the v2.5 update or if it will GET ADDED to the next. Based on the date you just gave, it was indeed v2.5.
So with that said, freeplay, do you have v2.5? If not then don't update. If so then guess what buddy! YOU ABSOLUTLY DID AGREE TO IT!
Every single time you update you AGREE to the updates ToS. Welcome to life!
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read my post again and then correct yourself if your that dumb enuf to relize that i didnt adress your post (BOTH IN FACT)...
and dude stop commenting... all your comments a basically the exact same bulls**t just less lines and different words.
we all allready got your point man,just chillax for once from splurging on this article.
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I think Sony should hold the right to look into your conversations, if they find out you said you wanted to kill the President or something.
I see your point of view though, say Allah Ackbar made his plan to kill so and so on PSN, then Sony could be held liable.
Staying off McCain v Osama, I mean OBAMA, debate.
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Um, you just agreed with me. So, how do you disagree with me?
Yes, Sony has every right to record THEIR OWN service.
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Nothing about any of your posts address anything on this page. All you do is talk shlt and call everyone a "f@g".
You're a nothing but a jackass.
You did NOTHING to address my post. However, maybe you would like to try again.
Explain to us ALL how it's ok for you to whine and cry about Sony doing something in which YOU HAVE AGREED FOR THEM TO DO.
Address that, without any of your 4 year old crap and try to be somewhat adult in your response and stay within scope of the topic.
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holy cr@p dude,do you need someone to take you by the hand and study each post carefully so that your retard 4 yr old brain can finally comprehend some of it??
and why would you say "i call everyone a f@g".. i only called you a f@g you f@g,now im not gunna bother explaining my posts if your slow self cant get'em.
So just lay off it man,its a lose lose situation for yourself.
oh,wuts with the "maybe you would like to try again" crap dude.. how old are you? Thats a load of crybaby bull$h!t you keep saying over and over........ and i WILL HOWEVER explain (in short) how its ok to "wine" and "cry" as you put that i was "doing"... its becouse i CAN AND WILL,and thats wut i decide and wut i choose to do weather you like it or not... and you cant do a thing about it but creat these cr@ppy replys that go no were at all.
THE END,NOW seriously STFU dude..idiots like you are why the qj community is dull.
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"can you not comprehend wut all my posts ment??"
Let me break this down for your pea size brain.
My first post in this thread talked about the SONY AGREEMENT and people AGREEING TO IT.
Your reply to that post was about POLITICS, VOTING, F@G, some BS about a contradiction from a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POST and FREEDOM RIGHTS.
Are you able to follow along now? Can your pea size brain understand all that?
"and why would you say "i call everyone a f@g".. i only called you a f@g you f@g"
On really? So here you claim you only called "ME" a F@G. Interesting. Let's look at that shall we?
"by Apeaggedon - 8 hours ago "
"» f@gs..."
"just like zach de la rocha stated in the song "know your enemy" by rage against the machine... he said " who ever told you this is the land of the free is your enemy"... true dat my friends."
"this kind of ***** reminds me of the movie Eagle Eye."
Well, it looks like I need to give you an English lesson. See the "s" at the end of your f@gs comment? That implies what we call PLURAL!!!! Meaning MORE THEN ONE. Right here you are calling EVERYONE or at least MORE THEN ONE, in other words AT LEAST TWO people a f@g.
Can you pea size brain follow along with that?
"its becouse i CAN AND WILL,and thats wut i decide and wut i choose to do weather you like it or not"
I see. That's fine. You certainly CAN cry like a baby about it. However you are choosing to do so out of pure ignorance and nonsense. If that's the kind of idiot you WANT TO BE, no one can certainly stop you. However, the reason, "just because I want to" is a pretty pathetic reason to settle on. Can't you come up with anything better then that?
"and you cant do a thing about it but creat these cr@ppy replys that go no were at all."
I'm trying to get a real answer out of you and you keep choosing to act like a damn child about it. Are you telling me YOUR posts are going somewhere?
"THE END,NOW seriously STFU dude..idiots like you are why the qj community is dull."
So you claim you can do WHATEVER you want yet you continue to try to oppress people and demand that they do what YOU want them to do? Yup, you are CERTAINLY 8 years old. Also, there is nothing dull about this community.
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"and also,you mentioned that my "actions can and WILL be recorded",contradicting yourself. there's a HUGE difference between CAN and WILL.. im obviously not 8 yrs old if i had to correct you on your own mistake."
That is not a contradiction.
Can be recorded is TRUE
Will be recorded is TRUE
Both statements are true. Putting then in the same sentence doesn't make them any less true nor do they contradict each other.
CAN be recorded implies a physical possibility while WILL be recorded implies the actual action within itself.
So, with that said, I guess you really ARE just 8 years old. You are utterly pathetic.
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what's wrong with taxing the filthy rich companies with check books so fat they can crush you....................
They've been taxing the poor and middle class for the most cut out of the tax pie for 8 years.......(since bush been in slacking in office)
because of all these tax on middle class the economy is screw up as tax sucks wallets dry, causing people to not be able to pay for houses........taxing the rich too little has caused to economy to crumble......now the middle class has to save their asses paying 700 billion dollars to keep rick companies bankrupting in life support.
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You absolute imbecile. This is the ToS for the PSN, not for the firmware.
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"what's wrong with taxing the filthy rich companies with check books so fat they can crush you...................."
First off, not all "filthy" rich companies are the same companies you hate. The company I work for, it NOT "filthy" rich yet we're in Obama's tax "range". We already fired a person because of import taxes on materials going up in 2008. In 2009, if our taxes go up we'll have to fire one or two more people.
Explain to me how people losing THEIR JOBS from taxing "the rich" is a good thing? We are already running on a skeleton crew.
Just because you make more doesn't mean our government has the right to take more.
"They've been taxing the poor and middle class for the most cut out of the tax pie for 8 years.......(since bush been in slacking in office)"
That is false. 100% false. I think what you are confusing is that businesses have UNFAIR LOOPHOLES. THOSE need to be plugged.
Also over the past 8 years, income taxes have been LOWER then when Clinton was in office. How has Bush been slacking off if LOW and MIDDLE income taxes have been LOWER then they've been in the previous 8 years before Bush?
"because of all these tax on middle class the economy is screw up"
WRONG!!!!!! Again, where do you get your information? Our economy is screwed right now because allowed BILLIONS on top of BILLIONS of mortgages to go out to LOW INCOME people who could not afford them.
"as tax sucks wallets dry, causing people to not be able to pay for houses"
Now here you have a good statement. Which is why most of our taxes are ILLEGAL!!!! Yet we keep voting them in. Business have ALWAYS paid more then you. So this untrue scale that you try to weigh us on doesn't exist. All you want to do is tax businesses EVEN MORE causing Americans to MAKE LESS.
Do you think business are going to absorb this increase in their profits? Heck no! Your paycheck will feel it.
"now the middle class has to save their asses paying 700 billion dollars to keep rick companies bankrupting in life support."
Well, there a few different sides to this.
1. If handled properly, we will MAKE MONEY on the deal.
2. The government had their hands in these business WAY TO MUCH. Our own government is the SOLE REASON for the collapse of our current situation. More specifically, DEMOCRATS. DEMOCRATS FORCED the companies we just bailed out to lone money to LOW INCOME PEOPLE that could not afford to pay it back. OBAMA was one of them.
3. Because of this bail-out out, government is NO LONGER ALLOWED to dictate how companies should run their business. In other words, we finally told the DEMOCRATS to BACK OFF.
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It's all-inclusive had you ever bothered to check it out.
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its pointless to argue with a child such as yourself.
leave qj alone f@g.
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Eh, you'll go away eventually. They always do.
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LOSER.
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wha' ... i. i. i. i'm.. n no no no nnn NOT nervous's's's'ss attt tt at all... hhehhehehe... ehhh
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let's say that's correct.. thene every law enforcement agency should have cameras in everybody's house even the bathroom, the bed room so they can watch take a sh***, mas****, get intimate with your GF plane the president assasination or anything else for that matter.
I think I made my point... this is beyond communisme or politics BS. it's just about a constitutional right and a human right.
inoocent till proven guilty, not the opposite.
if the text said "under special circumstances", it would be ok.
someis repoted several times ... you can monitor him to assert the accusation then ban him report him to the police ...etc. But it doesn't so that means that everybody is guilty and suspicous and frankly that's an insult.
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PS for thoses insulting the GOV. Either it should interveine or not. please pick a side.
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That's it! This is only to enforce their ToS. In other words, say you call some black guy the N word. BAM! You lose your account.
Sony can only verify that an ACCOUNT broke the ToS. Sony can NOT verify the actual PERSON who is breaking the ToS.
I just love it when ignorance assumes then RUNS WITH IT!
Anyone that thinks this breaks your RIGHTS is a fool. You can choose to NOT AGREE and NOT USE the service.
No one on this planet, NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN has the RIGHT to Sony Services.
Go back to school kids!!!!
As for:
"Such information may be disclosed to the appropriate authorities or agencies."
Let say the police have investigated a CHILD STALKER. They are going to ask Sony if they have any information regarding user XXXXXX. If they do and the police have a COURT ORDER, they can obtain the information. This is no different then the police confiscating a security tape from your local liquor store. So who here wants to be an idiot and claim the liquor store has NO RIGHT to video tape you? THAT'S THE SAME THING!!!! If you are in their store then they have the RIGHT TO RECORD YOU. If you are using Sony's Service then they have the RIGHT TO RECORD YOU.
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Lol.. excellent.
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