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Ben Judd liked MGS4 -- except the story

Posted Sep 17, 2008 at 5:32PM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Capcom, Hideo Kojima
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No love for MGS4 story - Image 1You can't please everyone. And in Hideo Kojima's case, his cinematic gameplays for Metal Gear Solid 4 did not please Bionic Commando (PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and PC) producer Ben Judd. This much, he stated in an interview with Videogamer.com.

Well, it's not that he did not like MGS4 at all - he did. However, the story for him feels like it "keeps getting longer and longer." Here's the exact quote from the interview:

I liked Metal Gear Solid 4, with the exception of the story. I like Kojima's stories, but they keep getting longer and longer. He needs to put the clamps on himself and only give himself 30 minutes. If he did that I'm sure they'd be fantastic.


Full transcript of the interview can be read by clicking on the source link below.


Via Videogamer



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# uhuh....0genmu0 2008-09-17 18:54
This is coming from a guy that has yet to come up with his own idea and had to remake a VERY OLD game just to please his employers....calls himself a producer but of what? a 2d/3d arcade game that pretty much reminds me of contra which i still think is much better than this bionic crap.



There they go again...bashing on someone just because they don't speak ENGRISH. I've yet to see Hideo make smart ass comments about other peoples games seeing how it's he's game thats making market right now.

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# Terriblepizzadad 2008-09-17 19:02
I'm sure his bionic commando will sell millions, yeah right. I couldn't even finish the demo, it was so boring. The only way he will ever get his game to the public is if he gives it away for free

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# ben judd is a nobodyspicyhamster 2008-09-17 19:28
honestly, im surprised this made news on qj AND kotaku. I'm glad it did though, it might convince some people not to buy his game (I'm assuming he's working on Bionic Commando, the 3D game, not Bionic Commando Rearmed, the 2D remake. The remake was pretty fun)

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# age < 10 ^skidz 2008-09-17 19:35
I laugh at the immature replies above. He said nothing bad about MGS4 and his comment was nothing more than constructive criticism. Please children, if this really bothers you that much then please do not comment. Thank you.

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# uhBinary 2008-09-17 19:38
who the ***** is this idiot?

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# uhhspicyhamster 2008-09-17 19:50
nothing bad? nothing bad would be "I thought mgs4 was a great game." Period. Not "except..." that one word implies that there was something he didn't like. of course, there's nothing wrong with that, but if you read everything he said (follow the source link), it's more than constructive criticism. at that point, you need to start thinking about who's criticizing kojima, one of the greatest game designers of all time, and the answer is nobody. no one has ever heard of this guy, and it sounds like he's just trying to generate buzz for himself and his game.

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# wellteh not so 1337 g@m3r 2008-09-17 20:00
owning the game myself, he's right. Too much story (ie cutscenes) not enough gameplay.

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# (Spoiler) I think it was good but with flawspapajag 2008-09-17 21:03
The game was good and does not need to be changed but the story was just ok. The only thing that I didn't like about the story is that Snake didn't die which I prepared for b4 I finished the game so that i wouldnt cry only to find out that big boss is still alive...other than that the story is a work of art and talks about the future of technology



not to hate on you "teh not so" but the story is en genius and if a player cant understand the deepness and thought put in this story then he or she shouldnt be playing this game and play Halo(play Starcraft and u can understand what i mean when i said to play Halo)



Note: Halo is great but the story and characters are almost identical to Starcraft



oh yeah **** Ben Judd he is a *** and I will continue to think of him that way until he makes a game better than MGS4(he probably wish he made the game) which is very hard

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# i LOVE metal gear soliddeath 2008-09-17 21:18
they were all amazing. but he is RIGHT. in #4 the story was EPIC but the way it was told was strange. lots of things we could've done ourselves instead of a cutscene playing. #1 was still THE best game ever IMO (and it was the perfect blend of story and gameplay) ............ i would kill for a remake (did u read that hideo?)

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# hmm.sergeidragunov 2008-09-17 23:12
mgs4 is the best! a masterpiece. bionic commando....i dont know that game..

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# ExactlyMaster Chef 2008-09-17 23:23
People know who Hideo Kojima is, and his products sell themselves. He doesn't need to talk sh*t. Same for Miyamoto, I've never seen that guy dis anyone

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# Okay..Oraichu 2008-09-17 23:24
MGS is a game franchise with acctually GOOD story and alot of focus on story, to be an action game.



This is something good, compared to the TONS AND TONS of games that are all action and no story. In this game, you acctually care about the characters. In other shooters you don't give a ***** if they die or not, and what happends next, since it's a "Military" shooter and you are a "badass" guy with bad oneliners(steri otypical example).

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# Who's this guy again?Jin Wu 2008-09-18 00:35
I would say he's full of himself or full of _ _ _ t!

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# Yepchessboxer 2008-09-18 00:40
No one likes a great story nowadays. The entire MGS series has been fantastic and I'm looking forward to MGS5, which I guess will have us playing a younger Snake with a story exploring more of Big Boss.



At least there's 2 more CoD games coming to keep the masses happy for a few hours. WW2 again for CoD5 because that hasn't been done to death...

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# Uhm?SolidXnake 2008-09-18 01:32
Judd? Who the f*** is that guy? Anyways, first off, please create something new instead of re-inventing the wheel. I liked Bionic Commando I was looking forward to see this one, KEYWORD: SEE - There is not way I would buy a remake of a game like that one. Also, stop hating on MGS4, you would never, ever top Kojima's masterpiece. That's how little girls do, they hate on other girls when other girls look better - Have you seen enough movies about that already? Jeez, ya need to take your head out of your ass and use it for something more..uhmm.. NEW! I dont even know why I'm typing this for a nobody! CUT!

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# YupGW2 2008-09-18 02:06
If your satisfied with your development you don't need to put down others. I guess he didn't play all of the other metal gears if he doesnt like the story in this one.

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# QFTGW2 2008-09-18 02:08
who the ***** is this idiot?

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# just what i thoughtTydeus 2008-09-18 02:24
I was thinking to myself "who the hell is Ben Judd" Still, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I myself still prefer the MGS1 story to MGS4 but it was a good story

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# ROFLMusachi 2008-09-18 03:31
I feel that Judd is right in some respects, but to do it like this and say it to highly reagrded sources, does feel a little bit like school playground banter. There we're times when I was playing MGS4 and thinking, "when will this cutscene end!!!" the story telling is amazing, it can't be beaten. The character development is great and it's always a pleasure to watch anything in high-def, but I did feel that it broke up a lot of the gameplay and it always left me thinking "does it really need this..?" Don't get me wrong, Im a huge MGS fan spanning the whole franchise and I hate to hear a bad word said against it, but this time round I think it's completly justifiable even if it is some "nobody" developer working on a half baked re-make. Surely everyone is aloud they're own opinion.... right...? & mine is ..... MGS4 Rocks!!!! ^_^

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# mgs4 best game of all timekongo664 2008-09-18 03:57
MGS4>Bionic Commando



the ps3 was made for mgs4!



btw who the f*** is that guy again? bionic what? the original is way better than his "remake"..his brain might as well be the size of a single brain cell next to kojima's brain

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# this guys a idiotPS3 OUTSIDER 2008-09-18 04:11
each to there own and all that but his opinion makes no sense he says i liked mgs but not the story the only thing that makes mgs such a great series is the story so you either liked it or you didnt simple as that

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# My take on thisThinker 2008-09-18 04:25
While I really loved MGS4 as a game and thought the story was good, there were some parts which I thought were done to excess - especially some of the cutscenes, that seemed to go on and on. The ones that struck me as unnecessarily long were the cutscenes at the end of Act 3 and the epilogue cut-scene. I got the impression that a cut-scene half the length would have been able to convey the same amount of information (and just as impressively).

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# I think the bigger, and more important question is...FOURTHxSURVIVOR 2008-09-18 04:47
Who the hell is Ben Judd?

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# Meh.NarooN 2008-09-18 10:03
I kind of agree with the guy. But what I don't get is why Kojima/MGS fanboys get all butthurt when people criticize the smallest thing regarding Kojima or MGS. One could say his stories are epic and whatnot, and many will agree and disagree. Just because someone doesn't want to sit through hours upon hours of exposition and random climaxes doesn't mean they don't have the mental capacity or are idiots. Opinions. You're entitled to them.

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# AgreedGR1M 2008-09-18 12:31
Haha, I was thinking the same thing

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# Damn youGW2 2008-09-18 13:50
FOURTHxSURVIVOR smells!

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# ....SolidXnake 2008-09-19 01:11
Just cut thru the scenes and keep playing - that's all I gotta say.

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# mgs4FELIXjk007 2008-09-26 01:31
what does MGS stand for? My Geriatric Superhero? That was a total shocker, and this is you pish3 owners flagship game? :0) LMAO He looks like some random senile wandering the streets looking for his missing slipper and peeing in his jammies, someone help him back into bed for pity's sake! metal gear solid? more like More Geriatric Shenanigans, the only way that guy's snake is ever getting solid again is if he ingests a buket of Viagra and sits in a bath of Spanish Fly for a month!! Between this rubbish, Haze, little big pap and that awesome,( ha!ha!), title PATAPON that you have it makes me wonder why I ever chose an Xbox over your PISH3 box of horrors! :0) LMMFAO Keep your Blu-Ray, you NEED it to sell that garbage!!

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# ben judd is a nobodyFELIXjk007 2008-09-26 01:35
As opposed to you Mr Popular? And you are..? Stand in the corner and repeat after me, " If I knew what I was talking about I would be a games designer and not just a pish3 whiner!!" Now write it out 1000 times boy! SILENCE, I KILL YOU!!!

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