If Blu-ray replaces DVD then of course they wont have DVD but that wont happen for a while. The only way people wont buy games off the box is if they can download it at 3-4 MB per second and that's still slow considering the size of the games now. Most can probably download at 600-800 KB per second and that's a really good day. Downloadable wont be big until internet speeds are improved and the sizes of HDDs are bigger and cheaper.



Yeah 1st comment

i regularly hit 1-2MB/s

Not before the intertnet is 500% faster at the SAME price as now. And even then, I think people will still like to have the real thing instead. I mean, maybe digital to rent movies and games for exemple, but not to buy them, unless it's REALLY cheaper. Like 5$ for a movie instead of 25-30$ for a blue-ray, and 25-30$ for a game instead of 60-70$.

I'm all for DD. I no longer buy CD's, iTunes and eMusic has it all for me. I get all my PC games from Steam and I've had more fun with WiiWare/VC, XBLA and PSN games than their proper disc based games.

It's only the DS and PSP that use optical media more than downloaded media for me.

And I'm only on a 2mbps connection, but I get a 120kbps download speed tops. It's good enough for. For the games I want to play it's quicker to get from Steam with the preload option than to go out into town.

...if this was true cuz if you would download everything off the internet then it would have a steady price and wont drop until the company says so. Thats why I like my things to be at the store where I can have DEALS.

are you serious? you think sony wasted money investing in blue-ray players? your a bleeping idiot.

seriously dude. thats the silliest thing ive ever heard. blue-ray is almost 30gb. i admit that i dont like loading my game from disc and feel that it would be much better if you could simply install it for good. but why would i sacrifice my actual product that retains real value Vs a leased product not worth a dime. thats stupid.



secondly the way the corporations decide how things are distributed doesnt have a damn thing to do with what ppl want. its about what makes the most money. obviously completely obliterating all production costs will save them money so it is a good theory that most games will be sold this way in the near future. hell as far as im concerned its already happened since the PSN store is looking increasingly better than EB everyday.



but as for bluerays being useless all i can say is this: why buy a car when you already have a house?

Resistance 2 almost filled the disc...

Heavenly Sword had 10GB of audio alone...



I'm tired but there are more...

actually, ppl that think that they know more about anything and need to actualize the situation in an attempt to prove a point are quite lame. actually, here in reality.



your point is that the corporations that support the developers that release games choose formats based on consumer appreciation is mute.

my point being that if said were so we'd still see new snes and nes titles, marvel vs capcom 3 and much better quality mc donalds food.

blue ray will be obsolete when it has been replaced with a better higher capacity media. making hdds is not cheaper than blueray discs.

also simply because a couple titles used the capacity of the disc doesnt mean that ones that dont are better. IE: what if oblivion and gta DID use more data? sure it could just be some lame video that has bad compression to use up more space. OR... it could be like that game x2, x3 etc... so my ponly point is that Viphid has no real point other than he simply favours running games off the hdd and probobly supports 360. +/

I highly suggest you crawl under that rock in that cave you live in, holmes. I worked in retail for 10 years and I see these trends up close and personal every day. Things evolve and change. Physical media is dying and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD was a last ditch effort by two companies that realized there is money in a digital future but didn't know how to capitalize on it before it was too late. So what do they do? Push their new disc formats. DVD sales were down the past two years. People are watching movies and tv shows on Netflix, On Demand and TiVo (or whatever other digital recording device they own) and have been for the last couple of years. Do you need me to add that up for you? Do yourself a favor and just stop. As I said before, in an interview by Sony's own Phil Harrison (before he had the common sense to quit)



http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId+3152746



He was the head of the company so he knew what he was talking about. He knew what Sony's future plans were. That means you are a fool for purchasing a piece of plastic that will be a coaster in 6-7 years. Yay you!!!



-V



As far as your argument that Blu-Ray is cheaper to make than a HD, yea... one disc is cheaper than an HD. But what if that $300 HD could play an infinite number of movies for $10 a month in full 1080p (or whatever your resolution is) rather than a $30 disc that plays one movie over and over again. Value, son. It's a way better value to stream movies then waste gas trying to find your movie at a Suncoast or Best Buy. Fighting for last copies and waiting in line. You think you got the pulse of the industry? You don't know jack.

And then we'll become an androgynous, paperless society living on other planets. Or a hundred other things people have been predicting for decades which will never happen either.

Yeah I really don't see this happening, games like MGS4 and Gears2 sold like crazy their first day, you mean to tell me you'll be able to download those games (MGS4 was 50gigs) over the internet in a decent amount of time?That many people all trying to d/l the same game at the same time would take forever. I would rather waste the gas driving to gamestop (which is 5 mins away) than waiting for a 50gig game to download and the games are only going to get larger. Earlier comments talk about how GTA4 was only 7 gigs but if you didn't notice, GTA4 is a much smaller city that GTA SA was.

Streaming movies is a good idea but for a movie like Batman or Ironman I want to own them and im not risking the chance of keeping all my movies on one hard drive cause HDDs can be corrupted and then you lose everything. Also, streamed movies are compressed, they aren't the full quality you would get on a disc.