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Pass or fail? Video game consoles graded

Posted Nov 4, 2006 at 2:16PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Wii, PSP, Xbox 360, Nintendo DS Tags: DualShock, Metroid, Microsoft, PS2, PSOne, Sony

With the launch of two of the industry's most-awaited gaming consoles just around the corner, the general excitement that has been building up can be felt almost everywhere. While the rest of us are painfully counting the days, hours, and minutes for those shiny, new machines to finally be available, Robert Workman from GameDaily takes a step back to assess the video game consoles of our time, to see which companies have actually done their homework.

Basing his comments on the console's price, game library, and lifespan, Workman then proceeds to grading the various gaming systems and issues a small prediction for that particular console.

Playstation 2: B+
A solid gaming machine with a fair price, the PS2 has a good library of games, as well as one of the best controllers of its time, no thanks to the Dual Shock 2. Despite being cast in the shadow of its bigger relative, the Playstation3, many good games are still being published for this well-loved console, with titles including the types of Final Fantasy XII (I personally recommend this game, by the way), God of War, and Okami. However, this star may just lose the limelight because of the PS3's superior technology.

Xbox: D
Microsoft's first attempt to enter the gaming industry may not have been as successful as they wanted it to be. Though the Xbox has a good library of games, this good factor may have been neutralized by its bulky frame. At this time, Microsoft has also stopped publishing games for this platform, with only the occasional third-party title making a quiet appearance from time to time. It may have been doom for this console the moment the Xbox 360 was released.

GameCube: C
Nintendo's neglected cube may have seen better days, but we'll never really know now. Another console which bears a good library of games including Metroid Prime, Animal Crossing, and Eternal Darkness, this console may not be worth purchasing anymore, only for the reason that it no longer has a steady supply of new games to keep it alive and breathing.

DS Lite: A
Whatever the GameCube lacked in sales, the DS Lite may have just made up for, as it is now dubbed as the Star of Nintendo (until the Wii comes out, maybe?). A sleek handheld with a touchscreen and wi-fi capability, the DS Lite also had a price which the masses found to be reasonable, thereby making it possible for almost everyone to pick one up for themselves. The fact that there is also a healthy supply of new games for the DS Lite which span vast ranges of interest makes the handheld worth the cash. Workman considers this handheld a must-have, next to the iPod.

PSP: B
Featuring a more mature look and selection of games as compared to its Nintendo counterpart, the PSP is expensive, but still gives good value for its price as it still serves as a good device for media storage and music playback. However, the UMD movie market is slowly dying, which may cause a loss for this handheld despite its steady stream of new games. It fights back, though, since it will be attaching itself to its big brother, the PS3, as a means to play PSOne games that can be downloaded via the console, and then transferred to this handheld.

Xbox 360: A
To quote from Workman: "The system is considered a success, thanks to a large supply of games, a substantial online community, complete with classic and new game downloads and a well-designed controller." 'Nuff said.

Nintendo Wii: A-
Surrounded by good publicity since it was first announced, the Wii has much promise in it. For one, it is more affordable than most consoles (though the US$ 60 extra controller may be a bit of a turn-off in that department). It also has good games come its launch, and has great games on the way; couple this with the Virtual Console, and we have a winner. The Wii is also supposedly more readily available, as compared to its contemporary, the PS3.

Sony Playstation 3: B+
One major issue that this console faces is the matter of availability, with only around 400,000 units at launch. Another factor which may mar its otherwise shiny surface, would be the fact that for its hefty price tag, Sony couldn't even throw in an HDMI cable into the package. However, the PS3 is expected to breathe new life into old titles, and the second wave of games that are scheduled to be released for this console all promise to be awesome.

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everyone in the world doesnt have the same opinion, to some this can be believed a good grading but to others this can be completely wrong. everyone has different opinions so who cares what game daily think. it will always be opinion based, no facts about which is better. there will always be people who think one console is better and another to say its not.

# really is it? — Guest 2006-11-04 15:48

it isnt if it was there would be mroe new games from microsoft and it wouldnt be far outsold by the ps2. and by far outsold i meanFAR!

# .. — Guest 2006-11-04 15:49

yeah why show al those pictures of old systems when they are just rating the current system .

mastersystem C ........ the console could be called a sucess and it had a few decent games but was nowehere as near as good as the NES

NES A ..............The system that made nintendo reach profits greater than even the toyota car company. this if for many people the first home console . mario mario... mario...duck hunt....thats all i remember about it.

MEGADRIVE/GENESIS B ..........SEGA decided to jump ahead of nintendo in much the same way that microsoft decided to release the 360 earlier than the ps3, it was wholly a tactical decision which paid off . they managed to get a significant portion of the home console market and yet again as always , its those in house games that really made the system great , streets of rage , sonic, golden axe.... however they started attacking nintendo blatantly in thier advertising which made them seem a bit pathetic for such a big company. They abandoned the megadrive early again even though it was still making thme a lot of money to try and stay ahead of the snes with disasterous results.

SNES A ..........what can u say . the other wannabees may bark like dogs but lion isnt bothered by them at all . Nintendo stands firm by its principles. it is not rushed by sega and is not drawn in to any name calling . nintendo remains tight lipped about its competitors. for all that sonic the hedgehog was it still cannot compare to the gameplay and fun that mario offers. sonic is all flash and dash but at the heart of it the game is short and less enjoyable than a mario game which can be relied on in every generation to be the best of its kind. with zelda , mario , final fantasy etc etc nintendo and hundreds of games that followed the snes surpassed sales of the genesis and nintendo kept its crown.

during this time they were approached by sony about making a joint venture system ...snes games avalable on a cd playing device which could also play music ...an entertainm,ent centre !!!... nintendo agreed and the device ? PLAY STATION ........ everythign was going as sony intended untill soemone in nintendo realised that that according to the contract son would have rights over everythign made on the device. nintendo was furious and they broke the deal.

# a — Guest 2006-11-04 15:57

Thats stupid, the ps2 is the greatest selling console of all time and should deserve and a+. pfft

# Yea man — Guest 2006-11-04 16:00

Yea Psp isent doing to well man. Its almost doomed to be a complete failure in the future. Ever sense it launched its sells have been slowy decreaseing world wide and its fate of being a filure inch's ever closer. Soon it could be wiped off the map compleatly. On the other hand ds's sells have increased by 50% from last year and are out selling psp by 7 million units world wide. Not to mentions Ds is outselling psp in evry single part of the world and not just japan.

I think the scroe B for Psp and A for DS is somewhat acurate.

# PSOne, N64, DC — Guest 2006-11-04 16:01

Dreamcast B+ ........ great games (Skies of Arcadia, Crazy Taxi, Tony Hawks). Too me, it had better playability, smoother graphics, and the controller was best suited than its contemporary adversaries.

PSOne A-...... Well, who here never played on a PSone ??? Great game library (FF7, Gran Turismo, Driver, Resident Evil, and so more). Marketing of this console was the best by far, and it was directly aimed to the 15-30 years old.

N64 C+ .... Except for a few great titles (Golden Eye and Ocarina of Time), the controller would get sluggish with time, the graphics were too basic, and aimed for a younger audience.

But anyway, I think they formed the best generation of consoles yet (in variety on completing each other).

Thats just my 2 cents !!!

Good day all

# continued — Guest 2006-11-04 16:03

MEGA CD ..........F ....stupid. abandoned after 1 year .

saturn..............E I'll give it an E because it failed when it had a head start and a company behind it which had already made a sucessful system. Games companies had invested in the mega cd only to have sega abandon it ....customers had invested in the mega cd only to have sega abandon it.... seems like people began to abandon sega because of it . You really have to question segas ethics. i siuspected they werent a morally strong bunch of folk over there as soon as I saw those snes hate ads . oh well, you reap what you sow. the saturn came ahead of all the cd based systems but failed...i dont know much about the system because i havnt played it.

SONY PLAYSTATION. A+ ........... so there was sony with the Play station , a project now in limbo since thier partner company had pulled out . what did they do? well they realised that the snes was gettign a bit long in the tooth anyway so they stuck with the project ....joined the two words together to form playstation and there it was the games system that ushered in a whole new era like the nes had done before it. sony makes some stellar games and capcom starts making games other than street fighter 2 hyper turbo super christmas warrior editon . resident evil... konami made metal gear solid...sony makes gran turismo....crash... u know .. all those 3d games... and the sytem sells a 100 million ....doubling the amount the snes sold......they came from NOWHERE.... NOWHERE ... and they STOLE the market ...they pull;ed the rug from under nintendos feet ....whats the BIG N GONNA DO NOW???? CHAOS>>> ARRGGGHHHH

# ratings — Guest 2006-11-04 16:04

psp B+ xbox C+ ps2 A- gamecube C dslite B ps3 A xbox 360 A- wii A

# XBOX IS ALLRIGHT — Guest 2006-11-04 16:10

My xbox has every nes, gb, gba (as of april 2006), snes and M.A.M.E game....plus a 120 gig harddrive with over 30 xbox titles. Hmmm seems to me that the xbox can do way more than my modded PS2. I have them both but I use the xbox to play all my movies and all my games ... mod it up and it has the capability to do way more...I even have my PSX titles on there. But i will not buy a nextgen system...one the X360 seems pretty weak....cant support the PS3 due to sony action against lik-sang...and the Wii has crappy grafix. I think I wil spend my 1G on a new computer than can do more than most 2 of them combined. And yes I have a PSP and just got a DS due to the fact that some crappy company PS2COVER.COM just shipped me my supercard. % months after I ordered it.

If you cant mod it I wont buy it! Why waste my money.

# pathetic aricle — Guest 2006-11-04 16:14

If you read the article it says "Our panel of experts scrutinizes every game console currently on the market to determine which will offer the most bang for the buck" note how it says "currently on the market" thus no NES, SNES etc.

However it is idioitic to review the PS3 and Wii when it doesn't meet their review criteria.

At the end of the day that article was a pile of shyte, much like most propaganda cr@p that's spread about these consoles. I hate news for the sake of news.

# wtf — Guest 2006-11-04 16:16

i am a hardcore sony fanboy those ratings were just to get a comment like the one you made! ps3 needs to be spelled out from now on (Playstation 3) no more ps3 it deserves an A+ and way more respect than the xbox

# . — Guest 2006-11-04 16:19

*****ty list.

# heh! — Guest 2006-11-04 16:20

I gotta say that news report sucked ass- and the people that made the comments made far better ratings to each console than the original source

"PSP B? the PSP is the biggest failure EVER (although i have one and love it but it has nothing to do w/ the games....)" - so true! Aswell as all the older system ratings - NES etc

# NONONONO! — Guest 2006-11-04 16:21

Totally wrong, man!

XBOX and XBOX 360 ARE THE WORSEN AND BAD GEN CONSOL EVER!! They can go to hell!

# wtf2 — Guest 2006-11-04 16:21

i know plenty about consoles im the spoiled brat on your block that got every system that was released even the ones before my time (-panasonic 3d0 and vitual boy) and a processor does not dictate the quality of a system nor the sales of it

# ***** yourself idiot — Guest 2006-11-04 16:25

The DS lite got a ? you *****ing bastard it may be a b ONLY A B

# continued — Guest 2006-11-04 16:26

NINTENDO 64 C......................its a tough world . sony is on the cutting edge of electronics so they can see much more than nintendo can . nintendo like an old man refusing to leave his home despite the flood warning sticks to its cartridge based system . the system shoul have died.. it should have been a total disaster .... but it wasnt . with a company like sega at the healm they would have abandoned the system almost immediately , but not nintendo. they stood by thier embarassing mistake and boy did they do well with a system as disadvantaged as it was. NO FMV .... audio was lacking compared to the ps1.... the games were very kiddish still and they were fewer than the snes has seen . but you cant keep mario down , what a great game !!>.. and what about legend of zelda... boy ... that was good... ah... it was sad though... the old coot seemed like hed had his day and seemed just about to die but atleast it wasnt an embarassing and dismal death that sega was dying.

GAME CUBE .... D

i dont know much about this system but its not at the top..its not even second but i ehar its got soem great games . still... another humbling for nintendo . ah well....

PS2 A.............from white to black. the beautiful light , white ps1 replaced with a black angular slab that is the ps2. i dont like the colour at all.. but who cares... metal gear 2... metal gear 3.... tenchu... oh wait they screwed that up ...they just cant improve on the original. but the ps2 builds an even greater castle in the sky....the amount of great games this system has is awesome. GOD OF WAR.... Okami.... its still goign strong...it still outsells the xbox 360....its an absolute leviathon...selling 100 million in 5 years where the ps1 had taken 7... a phenomenal sytem and all thisd when another company was watching them with envious eyes.

XBOX C ......... it gets a D. A years advantage or a years disadvantage? that is the question. is it better to release the syetm later to make use of the latet and greatest tech or is it better release it ealry and have first dibs on the user base? well microsoft saw the arena and probably noticed a trend over the past few generations...i.e. he who releases last wins.. but such was not the case. all credit to the company , halo was like a movie. halo 2 sucked a bit though ... the story was crappy. other than the oh so great halo there are few other titles ... if any that can go agasint the likes of god of war or MGS or GT... the system itself only lasted 4 years before it was left to the third parties ( the dogs) . a game system that loses its investors 3 billion.... oh my god... but who cares about that anyway.... what do we get ? well... we get a sytem that look terrible... the graphics are nice but it takes ages to load games... ad there are fewer of those games and of lower quality than you get on another system (ps2) . but hang on... XBOX LIVE... i almost forgot this... ok... im changing it to a C+ just because of this . the system is significant because of this. it has made a lasting mark on the console map.

# Wow — Guest 2006-11-04 16:30

The GameCube better than the Xbox? Don't get me started...

sinjinn, get a life

# D:! — Guest 2006-11-04 16:34

that guy is a ninty fan

# hmm — Figboy 2006-11-04 16:38

here's my vote:

NES - A - great game lineup. revived the gaming industry

Master System - C - decent game lineup, but couldn't match Nintendo

Genesis - B - Very good gaming lineup, but lacking some true heavy hitters that were exclusive (though Sonic was a great attack at Nintendo)

SNES - A+ - Great game lineup. killer exclusives. state of the art technology for consoles at the time

PS1 - A+ - great library of titles. the SNES of it's time.

N64 - C+ - great Nintendo games, not much of anything else. wonderful potential, but not enough games from 3rd party.

Saturn - C - out of the gate first, but couldn't compete software wise with the PS1, or even the N64. had some sweet titles, but failed in the exclusive 3rd party support.

PS2 - A - Great game library. the most exclusive titles out of it's contemporaries.

X Box - C - mediocre game lineup. great online service. lacked some killer exclusives that weren't shooters.

GC - C - Great lineup of games from Nintendo, not much else. the few killer exclusives ended up ported to other consoles (RE4 and Viewtiful Joe went to the PS2).

360 - ?

PS3 - ?

Wii - ?

DS - A - thanks to it's backward compatibility and solid software lineup (at least, if you enjoy family friendly games and Mario titles)

PSP - B - the PSP is a great system, period. much like the DS is a great system. the difference is that, thanks to the PS2, the PSP is having a difficult time of it. what i mean is that, if the PS2 stopped producing titles, the PSP would pick up the slack, as it's about as close to a portable PS2 as you can get. since the PS2 is still alive and kicking, there isn't much incentive to dive into the PSP. once the PS2 is gone for good, and developers want to cushion their profits while producing the big titles on the PS3, and 360, they'll fall back on the Wii. how anyone can say that 15 million units sold is "the biggest failure ever," is beyond me. so the DS has about 6 or 7 million more sold. SO. WHAT. this is Sony's first foray into the handheld market, and they are holding their own. no one has ever been able to hold their own against Nintendo like Sony has. the Game Gear only sold 8 million units. the Lynx, Wonderswan, and N-Gage barely capped 4 million units.

the PSP has a lot of potential, but it also has a solid lineup of titles out, and coming soon (i'd list them, but i don't feel like it). developers are finally treating the handheld as it's own device, and the quality of the titles have been getting better. for the DS, it really only has one place to go: and that's down. same thing with Sony and the PS3. they can't get any higher, so what else is there? the DS and PSP are also going after vastly different audiences. and fortunately, they're both unique enough to justify purchasing both of them. neither is a waste of cash.

as for the actual news report: it was poorly written, and just outright foolish. the reasons why the consoles were rated that way didn't make any sense.

# Lawl — Guest 2006-11-04 16:50

Somehow i knew all the xbox fanboys and girls would respond back. Surprisingly none of those fanboys(except 1) have said anything about Halo(I hated it).

oh shoot, why did i say anything? :(

# Yeah — Guest 2006-11-04 16:51

How can you even rate the Wii and the PS3 when both of them are not out yet???

# lol — Guest 2006-11-04 16:52

the gamecube is much better than an xbox. it sold more worldwide than the stupid ass x box, only trailing the ps2. The 360 is a pile of *****.

# ds — Guest 2006-11-04 16:52

DSL deserves that A, it has good games, more on the way, free wi-fi, (altho frend codes can be annoying) a fair price, innovative touch screen...plus it's sleek, shiny, and comfortable to play. A. Definatly an A.

# continued — Guest 2006-11-04 16:55

so now we have the xbox 360, the ps3 and the wii. and these devices have become a lot more different than their preddecssors which were all very very similar. but now... as if conforming to the role they were alloted in the last gen the playstaion has become as big and bad as it market share with Blu ray, wifi , blue tooth , mem cards , internet,and tilt control to go with huge processing power while the xbox360 takes the middle road with nothing too fancy or falsh...while nintendo backs of from the fight and attempts to take a shortcut to the top of the hill.

# . — Guest 2006-11-04 16:56

This article deserves an F.

# thats horrible — Guest 2006-11-04 16:56

why would you give the xbox a D and Gamecube a B, if you haven't noticed, there are more Xbox games out there there are for Gamecube. Also Halo and Halo 2 where 2 of the best selling games in history.... I believe all of this is some F*cking bull sh*t

# MY op. — Guest 2006-11-04 16:57

Master System- C

NES- A

Sega Genesis- B

Super Nintendo- A-

PSX- C-

N64- D

DreamCast-.... F!

PS2- C

GameCube- C+

XBox- B-

X360- C-

Gameboy- B-

Sega Nomad- D-

Sega Game Gear- C-

GBC- D+

GBA- A-

DS- B

DS Lite- B+

PSP- D+

# correction — Figboy 2006-11-04 16:58

i meant, "they'll fall back on the PSP."

developers would fall back on the Wii also, but Sony developers, as well as loyal 2nd and 3rd party developers will make games for the PSP as well, due to it's low production costs.

it also wouldn't surprise me that, in the future, a developer would create an original IP on the low cost PSP, then move it to the PS3 after it develops a fanbase, and the numbers of installed PS3's is high enough to make a profit for the title.

i see what Sony wants to do with the PSP, but unfortunately, it may be a year or two ahead of it's time. judging by what they are planning with the PSP/PS3 connectivity, it seems as if it should have come out next year, or 2007, and not 2005.

i updated my PSP to firmware 2.71 recently, and i honestly don't miss homebrew, and have been enjoying the other features and games that the PSP offers.

# Xbox does deserve slightly higher grade... — Guest 2006-11-04 17:00

So you know, I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but I find it beyond reason why the Gamecube is rated better than Xbox. Though it had a better lineup at the beginning, it's lifespan was considerably short; face it, I stopped playing Gamecube games by the time Halo 2 was out because the majority were trash. Microsoft was able to keep an ok lineup going until the shift to 360.

And to those who think PSP should have higher grade, it's the game line up that is holding it back. The reason why DS is rated so well is due to killer games. I would as soon play PSP games (I love the power of the hardware) but its the lack of anything new and fun. Only recently with Killzone and GTA:VCS have we seen things of better quality than DS games.

# hell no — amorbis 2006-11-04 17:05

that is all prejudice psp deserves nothing more than c all da games suk.

# but.......... — Guest 2006-11-04 17:08

Xbox was the most successful for online gaming.

# WTF — Guest 2006-11-04 17:08

D rating for xbox is not exceptable.

"Though the Xbox has a good library of games, this good factor may have been neutralized by its bulky frame"

820 Games is a very large library! Who gives a ***** about the original xbox case, were talking about pass or fail as far as a gameplay you jacka$$. I see Gamedaily forgot to mention xbox live as a strong point. How about the quality of the xbox console vs ps2 ( Maybe that why more ps2 were sold Hint ), my 1.0 still works great.

"At this time, Microsoft has also stopped publishing games for this platform, with only the occasional third-party title making a quiet appearance from time to time. It may have been doom for this console the moment the Xbox 360 was released"

Over a 100 games have been release for the xbox since the xbox360 came out. I wouldn't call that being doomed. Again the stupid reviewer has no clue of how great the orginal xbox is.

Xbox = B

# omg — Guest 2006-11-04 17:16

did u ever take into consideration that the Xbox was Microsofts FIRST console were the PS2 came after Sony's partnership with Nintendo and then the split were the PS came out. Sony has had alot more experience than microsoft has in the console gaming area. so taking that in mid, microsoft did pretty well.

# just few.. — Guest 2006-11-04 17:17

i like all the consoles.but for me,gba is the monster,that handheld never stops making games.and also the dreamcast..A for me next is family computer then xbox. is the pc inlcuded?

# omg — Guest 2006-11-04 17:23

ok first, SPELLCHECK.

second, ur a hardcorew fanboy who is totally one minded. get a life, buy the other consoles an try em out. ull find the xbox has aquite a few games that are on the ps2 but have way better graphics and fast load times. if all games on the ps2 were made for the xbox id get the xbox version. dont get me wrong, the ps2 is awesome but the xbox is really good too

# . — Guest 2006-11-04 17:29

Fanboy alert.

# Next-Next Gen Consoles — Guest 2006-11-04 17:30

PS4- A++

WiiCube- B-

XBox 720- Z

Makes as much sense as reviewing consoles that aren't out yet, against consoles that have been out for 5+ years... right...

# Bad Ratings — Guest 2006-11-04 17:40

I don't have an Xbox but I would buy the Xbox just so I can play Halo. Halo is extremely popular and I really want to play it online too. Gamecube was dumb though and should get a D and Xbox should get a B. Xbox360 seems like a faliure though so I'd rate it like a C or something cause I don't know much about the console or the games. The DS seems stupid also and I wouldn't waste my money on it. I really like the Super Nintendo though. One of my favorites along with the Sega Genesis. The PSP is my favorite handheld as well but the GBA SP was my second favorite. So overall here are my grades for some consoles.

PS2 - A+ The best home console of all time.

Xbox - B Has one of the most popular and best shooters (Halo, Halo 2) Great online play (Xbox Live)

GameCube - D Has nothing good to offer except the same ol Mario games

DS Lite - C- Okay I guess but it doesn't really appeal to me at all. I'd give it a lower grade but DS fangirls would attack me. O_O

Super Nintendo - A Definitly one of the best old school consoles. Was lots of fun

Sega Genisis - B Another favorite. Mostly played Sonic on this console; my favorite game on Sega

PSP - B - Not a lot of people agree with this but I do. Great graphics, Internet, Videos, Music, Photos. Plus there are tons of hacks for it great homebrew games to play and many emulators. Everything I need for on the go.

# Wii???? — RaiderX 2006-11-04 17:42

HOW CAN YOU RATE A SYSTEM THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED YET??

Anyways..

SNES = WinRAR

GBA = WinRAR

PSP = WinRAR

I = WinRAR

done

# is it? — Guest 2006-11-04 17:43

i think the slim ps2 sold more than the xbox!!

# ARE YOU SERIOUS????? — RaiderX 2006-11-04 17:45

DREAMCAST, F????

NO.

Maybe if you actually owned a Dreamcast and didn't just rate it from fanboyism, you would know how much the Dreamcast OWNED!

# some corrections: read it and comment it with your notes!, maybe I'm wrong — senjutsu 2006-11-04 17:49

Playstation 2: B+

-wrong, best selling console ever so A+

Xbox: D

-wrond, good sells in america and Europe so B-

GameCube: C

-wrong, worst game list ever so C

DS Lite: A

-right, best selling portable

PSP: B

-wrong, it's lame, only ps2 port... so C

Xbox 360: A

-wrong, it's almost only multi-platform games for now, and nothing but new graphics... But it's selling well ( 5m units now ) and will feature some great games soon ( gears of war, etc... ) so B

Nintendo Wii: A-

-HOW THE ***** CAN YOU RATE IT? IT'S NOT EVEN AVAILABLE

-then we can only rate the demand: wrong anyway because the 150 million japanese will want one, and a LOT of casual gamers!!! and all DS users!!! so A

Sony Playstation 3: B+

-HOW THE ***** CAN YOU RATE IT? IT'S NOT EVEN AVAILABLE

-then we can only rate the demand: I'd say right, because right now a lot of stupid M$ fanboys hate this console ( we should kill every fan boys : sony's, nintendo's, and M$'s ). But really the ps3 is looking pretty nice.

anyway: I simply hope the conpetition will remain, it's because of that we can have our great games right now!!

monopole is like killing, it's never good ( like windows..., man vista is not even someting new.. they made what? 2-3 changes? on a list of like 100 promised, it's lame, why? because they have nobody to impress, they have the monople! )

Anyway, this list is wrong!

# HOLD ON — Guest 2006-11-04 17:53

Has it even occured to anyone that a gaming site like GamesDaily WOULD MOST PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE A WII AND/OR A PS3??? Courtesy of Nintendo and Sony themselves???? That those people are PAID to review those machines?????

# forgeting australia — Guest 2006-11-04 18:00

dude, i dunno about other countries but in australia the psp is outselling the ds 8:1 (15 mill to 2 mill)

# ROFL — Guest 2006-11-04 18:02

You mean Halo series?

I can own it up on my PC

PC is the revolutionary "console"

# wtf?? — Guest 2006-11-04 18:04

an A for the 360??? outside of america. most of the stock systems are dusting away in the back of the stock rooms. or in the bargain bin with NOBODY buying them. that's hardly called success. success = world domination. ahem. ds ahem. XD. and you can't rate systems that isnt out yet. i smell some microsoft butt kissing going on here.

# Wrong — Guest 2006-11-04 18:11

Halo 1 and 2 aren't the best selling games in history. Mario is the best selling console, The Sims is the best selling PC.

# GTA owns mario — Guest 2006-11-04 18:14

I would have chosen the DS if I were 10 years younger. Games with a violent streak and filled with blood are much more interesting. What are you kids?

# yeah — Guest 2006-11-04 18:22

what a tosspot....

# jytwjry — Guest 2006-11-04 18:23

Id give the PSP an A instead of a B. The fact that its a portable USB mass media storage device....Videos/Movies, Photos, Music, and Homebrew Galore!

# gerbirlu — Guest 2006-11-04 18:26

Halo is just another shooter. Now Metroid thats a real Series. Super Metroid Bi@tch! ;)

# this is bull — Guest 2006-11-04 18:29

ok a console that sold over a 100 million units gets a lower grade than a 360, wii and ds lite

wtf this guy is retarded

the ps2 is the most succesfull console ever

# Biggest failure ever? — TheCheat 2006-11-04 18:31

I don't think so... The only reason I like my PSP is for the games, which I think are mostly great. Sure there is a fair share of crap titles, but that goes for every system. The games that are good for the psp make it very worth owning though, in my opinion. Different people like different games though.

# fdslfje — Guest 2006-11-04 18:34

Consoles that actually matter:

SNES- Super Metroid!!

PS2- Game Library

DS- Touch Screen

PSP- Endless Homebrew Potential Plus Media Device

# umm yea this is all bull ***** — Guest 2006-11-04 18:40

take into consideration your on a playstation site rating it a B and the ds an A... honestly if u think the *****ing peica crap ds is so great go post it on a nintendo forum not a playstation form site dumb ass...Second off to all playstation lovers regarding myself....PS3 and PSP OWN The WII AND DS its OBVIOUS. but since more people buy the ds (becuase their cheap basterds), they think that their system is better by majority !!!!!

# weird — Guest 2006-11-04 18:41

who ever wrote this is sad.. Ill ignore the fact that he gave the GC a better grade then the xbox and stated that it got rid of the idea the nintendo is for kids by naming the two only exclusive rated m games that anybody ever seems to mention on the GC. Not to mention that RE4 later went to PS2

But when talking about the wii he goes on to talk about rayman and calls it "Rayman Running Rabbids" qhich is not even the correct name.

Also you have to be dumb to rate a console that hasnt come out yet....To be fair if youve played demoes I guess you can grade it, but not if your com paring it to systems that have been out for years.

Im assuming QJ noticed how bad it was and showed us this on purpose.

# erggw — Guest 2006-11-04 18:41

Oh also

Wii- Virtual Console- Super Metroid Baby!

PS3- Does not need to say anything. It speaks for itself.

# very nice — TheCheat 2006-11-04 18:51

Very nice ratings! I personally like the Genesis over the SNES, but that's because I owned a Genesis. There were many titles I wished I could have owned on the SNES as well, so they were both amazing system. At that time, I think that if you owned either, you were having a blast ;)

I would rate PSP over DS as well, but thats only because I like the games on it over the DS's, and the extra features/screen size. DS is an amazing system, but both systems target a different audience. DS has a few games that I would love to play, but not enough for me to fork over the money. I found 21 psp games to buy (and a bunch more that are coming out), so it was worth laying down the money. I'd own both, but I already spend enough for all of my other games.

I don't mind the $600 dollar price tag for the PS3, or the $400 dollar price tag for the X360. Both seem fair to me...but the problem for me comes from the $60 (possibly more) price tag on games. That's really going to add up quickly :(

# Halo was decent, but.. — TheCheat 2006-11-04 18:56

I found Halo to be a decent game, but nothing out of the ordinary. When if first came out, it was probably seen as the best game available for the XBox, but thats just because the XBox didn't have anything else to call its best game. With an abundance of other first person shooters coming out, Halo isn't going to be any different than the other shooters out there, and just fit in with the crowd. It was a decent game, but I wouldn't buy an Xbox for it...I'd just get it for PC.

# c'mon — Guest 2006-11-04 18:56

come on guys, give the n64 some credit, it had a lot of good games. the mario party series, goldeneye, perfect dark, super mario 64, mario kart 64, f-zero x, ocarina of time...

# definite fanboy... — TheCheat 2006-11-04 19:00

And how can you rate the Nomad a D- while giving the Genesis a B. The Nomad WAS a Genesis, in portable form. I loved the Nomad, and although I never had a dreamcast, I know it deserves at least a C+ or better.

# :) — TheCheat 2006-11-04 19:02

The PSP does have some great games on it. You can still run homebrew just fine on a 2.71 though as well, so you don't have to give up either ;)

# x — Guest 2006-11-04 19:05

that ***** dosn't know how to rate!!! :@ btw, i only read the ps3's grade and he is rating for its prize, shininess and availability, not for whats inside, thats what hes supposed to rate....

# ... — TheCheat 2006-11-04 19:13

n64 had some great games made by nintendo themselves, but just not enough third party support to really take it far. It was still a good system though and I still have mine, so I'm not saying it sucked or anything.

# fasfas — Guest 2006-11-04 19:20

n64 a D but gamecube a C+? wtfs wrong with you?

personaly i think the n64s the best system to date.

# .. — TheCheat 2006-11-04 19:20

That's your opinion, and many people would disagree. I happen to enjoy all of the games I own for the PSP, and I wouldn't say one of those sucks at all. I could say the same for the DS, but I that would be stupid because there are some good games for that as well. I just don't like the DS as much because the games just don't seem as good as the ones on the PSP, but that wouldn't mean that every games sucked or that the DS sucked. Both are good systems and deserve to be recognized in their own way. How about you go try some of the good PSP games out before just crying out that they all suck...because even if a majority do suck (in my eyes, a majority of games suck on every system), there are still a good 40-50 games that are well worth the money.

# my vote — Guest 2006-11-04 19:28

Ps1=A+

Ps2=A+

Dreamcast=B

xbox=c+

Ds=B

PSP=B+

These are the console that i owned. i cant vote for nes or snes, never played before.

# Uhh...no. — WarLord 2006-11-04 19:51

In my book:

NES: C (All I played on that thing was mario, lol.)

SNES: A- (Would've been a C if I didn't use emulators. Luckily I got to play alot of awesome games I missed out on in my youth. I totally underestimated this system.)

Sega: B+

PS1: A+

N64: A

Dreamcast: A-

PS2: A

Gamecube: C-

Xbox: C+

Gameboy: D (I hated it)

Gameboy color: B+ (Loved it)

GB Advanced: A

GB Adv SP: A+

PSP: A

DS: A- (It's good, but doesn't seem like something I'd buy.)

# The Real Review — Guest 2006-11-04 19:54

"OK you *****ing nerds who wants a shot at the champ ?!?!" - Grandma's Boy (Movie)

I have personally Owned Every single Console to date and most of their games. Thanks to my older brothers hand me downs. And some of my own money of course I will give u detailed breakdowns of my scores unlike u asswhipes who go by the general populations remarks and comments.

NINTENDO - I give this console an A + because of its Gameplay. Which is what makes a game a game. Not its graphics not its controller and definitely not its bulkyness etc. The game play for this console was Evolutionary for its time and I love this console with all of my heart. Punchout baby !!! Double Dribble !!!

Turbo Graphics 16 - I give this console a D for effort and thats all they are getting from me. They overcharged everyone and made a total of what about 2 games for it and then died out. Booooo. The gaming fans want their money back ...

Sega Genesis - This console is one of my favorites because of 5 Games. Sonic the Hedgehog, Street Fighter 2, NBA Jam, Beavis and Butthead and last but not least Madden, Mortal Kombat. =) Definitely a keeper. I give this console a B+. For the simple fact that it could've came out with more games.

Sega Game Gear - I give this console an A. This console was with me thru out my school years and I can remember playing Sonic in class and screaming out loud when I passed a certain level. lol It reminds me of a PSP just less options and a little more bulkier and less graphics but very nice nonetheless.

Super Nintendo - I give this console an A+ Lots of games. Nice graphics for its time. Me and my friends broke countless nights playing Super Nintendo. Enough said.

Game Boy - B for the simple fact its still loved by many people world wide. Still creating games and the Game library for this hand held is amazingly more than any other Portable console to date. Except it came out in color after everyone purchase the black and white version. Go figure.

Nintendo64 - This console gets an A+++++ I don't care what anyone says. I still till this day play my N64. Golden Eye, Quake 2, Turok, WCW Nitro,WWF Wrestlemania 2000. All these games are classics and some currently cannot even be emulated on PC for specific reasons. So this console gets a very very nice rating from me due to the fact its graphics are nice, you can game with 4 people at a time with no lag. As well as the rumble pak which was first evolutionized by nintendo. Nice one guys !

PSone - Gets A+ Paved the way for PS2, but always remember this. There is nothing like the original. The original PSone set so many memories for me. From Crash Bandicoot to Critical Depth to the Final Fantasies ... I love it all.

PS2 - Get an A+ as well very nice graphics. An extensive and if not the most Games ever released for a console. Close run between the PS2 and PSone as far as game releases, but this console takes it in the long run because of one game in particular ..... SOCOM !!!!!

Yes Every single Game from the Socom Genre made me fail most of my classes in HS. Thats a first and last. I try not to take my PS2 out of the closet it will distract me from life in General.

Game Cube - never owned one. Thats tells you everything, but I can say this. There are maybe 6-10 games for this console that blew me away. I give this console a B-

XBOX360 - I give this Console an A+++++++++. If you have an HDTV or a Computer LCD Hook it up to this box. Buy a Game called Oblivion IV Elder Scrolls. The best game ever made PERIOD. Ask around. Any true gamer will tell you this game blows any game out of the water. The Graphics are next Generation. The Specs on this console have Triple Core Processing. The graphics card is Top Notch. The HD on the System is a SATA DRIVE. Need I say more ? This Console is the ***** ! Allowing up to 4 Players and also includes an XBOX Market. Which didn't allow me to give this console a perfect rating. You need to pay 60+ for a year for XBOX Live Market place to download

# Regarding DS vs. PSP — Lamtd 2006-11-04 20:08

Although I believe the grades are fair, I just thought I'd mention this to people saying the PSP is an utter failure:

When looking at the last 40 reviews for each system on IGN, DS has 7 games that passed the 8.0 mark, while PSP has 15.

So if the PSP is a failure with its quickly growing list of AAA titles, what should we say regarding the DS then ? ^^

# yea — Guest 2006-11-04 20:09

PS3 isnt even out yet.. You DONT know what's gonna happen, Xbox had better graphic, GameCube was the Nintendo's creation, people considered that, and they would'v said PS1 would die, but look at it, it is so good, so don't underestimate PS3, I'm not filthy rich, but im sitll gonna buy a PS3 just because I loved the PS2 titles, and I'm a SONY fan, not a hardcore btw, think about this, there are SO many sony fan out there, and there are SO many FF fan out there, so many series that is on PS2 will be on PS3, I'm not getting a 360 because most good games are going to be on PS3, Halo sucks, shields are gay, what? the little dudes needs their shields to survive? shields r the on thing i REALLY dont like about halo... maybe because some gay Xbox fan loved halo cuz they never played a good game before, so they act gay and like "oooo halo rocks" and then more ppl come cuz theuy heard ppl say halo rocks.. yeah right

# Regarding DS vs. PSP — Lamtd 2006-11-04 20:09

# wtf — Guest 2006-11-04 20:14

Yea um the Genesis was a lot better than the snes. sorry. It had all of the more mature titles as well as the sports games and sonic. Sonic owns Mario. Those games were fast paced and the sonic games were faster than any game on snes because the genesis was a faster system. How could you say that sega abandoned support for it if they sold it until 1996 and had the highest marketshare of 65% at it's peak BEFORE saturn came out. do some research first before you grade because the snes pretty much lost to the genesis during that console war the only thing that saved the snes was the next gen consoles which were saturn, N64 and ps1.

# so.... — Guest 2006-11-04 20:14

well.. isnt this just like the Xbox(in place of SEGA) versus SONY(in place of Nintendo) ??? so.. yea

# wrong — Guest 2006-11-04 20:17

There is know way there is 15 million PSPs in Australia man, there are only 18 million people.

# dreamcast+F — Guest 2006-11-04 20:20

dreamcast + a F because it only lasted 6 months!!!

# error — Guest 2006-11-04 20:22

insted of + its supposed to be "equals"

# lol — Guest 2006-11-04 20:27

Halo ROX!!!!

JK!!

I hate halo too, stupid shields, not realistic at all... Socom is better hahaha

# oh yea — Guest 2006-11-04 20:30

Just peer pressure and the desire to be "cool"

bunch of kids say"halo rocks" more kids use it, and to be cool, they also say "halo rocks", and some people dont even know if it's cool or not, they buy it, even if they didn't like it, they HAD to say it was cool because "all the cool kids are saying is cool, and if i dont say is cool people will think I'm not cool"

so screw halo, it sucks, is just a big hoax

# duh — Spector 2006-11-04 20:33

He has a time machine so he has seen PS3 and Wii's library in the future and the way they've played out... or he has a dartboard he gave those system grades with.

# true that — Spector 2006-11-04 20:35

I may be a Sony fanboy but I'd still say Xbox deserves more respect than that.

# RPG super console — Spector 2006-11-04 20:39

you can't give PSX a C- just because you can take away all the games but the RPGs from that system and people would still have to stand back and go wow... those games rocked my world and if you need me to list all these games you've already missed out.

# Yep . . . — Guest 2006-11-04 20:54

This thing's ghey . . .

# true dat — Guest 2006-11-04 21:06

Dude the PSP does suck a lot. they went wrong right from the creating of it...no 2nd anolog i mean how do you play any game without 2 analogs. also not high enough graphics/memory...gta vcs cant even barely run on my psp. and last of all Sony is probably the worst company in my mind. they ar ea failure company they dont listen to us and fix anything. im sticking with my computer that can play games CORRECTLY.

# Idiots — Guest 2006-11-04 21:18

100% biased.

# Ninkul 2006-11-04 21:21

Possibly they've had a go at the console since theres already test units around here and there.. but its not really an exact point of view at the moment i suppose. Just wait a bit.. you'll get a clearer view soon i suppose

# ***** — Guest 2006-11-04 21:37

orly?

# hmnnn — Guest 2006-11-04 21:40

I'd agree to almost all that except for the PSP - If you include homebrew, then I'd give it a B, yes, - maybe even an A... but as Sony are pushing this out, wouldnt it be fair to give the PSP a C?

The potential is there, definately, but I kinda disagree that theres a solid games lineup on this device.

It needs Squaresoft ASAP! (Square-Enix)

# ***** — Guest 2006-11-04 21:41

are you retarded?

# um... — Guest 2006-11-04 21:57

Actually, no, you didn't say "that the xbox deserves MORE than a D on rating... like a b or a" in your initial post. I believe what you said was:

"» the xbox rating

IS TOTALLY WRONG!!!

XBOX IS THE BEST CURRENT GEN CONSOL EVER!! "

# :( — Guest 2006-11-04 22:13

dude that is screaming fanboyisms... yes it should have more than the ps2 because it simply is a better console... you mite have been better of saying that the guy who wrote that article is a big dumb *****ing *****...

# the games makes up the system — Guest 2006-11-04 22:31

one of the reasons the ps2 is so popular is because of it's huge selection of games. it's got games for both the young and older crowds. sony just did a smart move by including "everyone" unlike gamecube and xbox. that's why they're doing so well.

# re — Guest 2006-11-04 22:49

dreamcast - a

the best console that ever failed, and the only console with such a large number of games in such a short time frame.

# Yeah right — Guest 2006-11-04 23:25

Article is from 3.XI 2006 and yet it goes for ps3 "Sony couldn't even throw in an HDMI cable into the package". What a noob...

# .. — Guest 2006-11-04 23:26

pc = A+++

# .. — Guest 2006-11-04 23:44

lol...your athe saturn an E when you haven't even played it..you clearly don't have a clue, yet u rate teh ps1 a+, lmao

saturn was so much more advanced then the ps1, was possible the peak of 2d gaming and some of the 3d games pissed all over the ps1

gamewise, the saturn has some of the best games i've ever played :/

as for megacd, yes it was pretty *****

# !!! — Guest 2006-11-04 23:50

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

# wtf r u on? — Guest 2006-11-05 00:05

psp deserves an A imho

# CMON SONY — Guest 2006-11-05 00:57

at least make a better firmware that can run games and stuff on default 333mhz and not F**k the battery! sheesh!

but seriously, if an emulator for psp on ds and psp rom disks or something were sold for the ds, id get the ds!

and the specs are so low... because of sonys failure w/the bettery

# WTF? — Guest 2006-11-05 01:26

All I'm confused about is how the Xbox got less than even the GameCube...

No matter what any Sony fanboys say, the PS2 was always technologically inferior to the XBox, the XBox had practically double the specs ffs...

# yeah... — hush404 2006-11-05 02:38

I had a DS lite.... deff not worth an A. I traded that PoS away and eventually bought a PSP... I dun think the PSP is an 'A' either but it's deserves a much higher grade that the DSL.

My thoughts:

PS2: A

PS3: (A+??... not out yet!)

Xbox: D- (at best)

X360: B-

Cube: C (come on! It did horribly!)

DS L: C+

PSP: B+

Wii: (B+?? not out yet)

Oh and for anyone going on about the wii's "Virtual Console" BS, just look to the competition... they're doing the exact same thing, supporting older game emulation.

# umm.....no — Guest 2006-11-05 02:44

well, the xbox was the best game system at the time it came out. OBVIOUSLY it is not going to be as good now because the 360 came out....GOSH. I think the wiis grade is great though. Ahh man, wish it had better graphics....

# Ehhh — Guest 2006-11-05 03:22

PS2 B+ (Sold over 100 million units)

X 360 A (Sold worse than the original Xbox)

Right...

# ya — Guest 2006-11-05 04:06

I agree, I'm supposing they're just prejudice against anything other than SONY, as, I'm supposing, they think we are because we like the PSP(a SONY product)

# noooooooooooooo oooooo — Guest 2006-11-05 04:35

why din't you rate retro consoles, you suck!

# solidus — Guest 2006-11-05 04:37

snes sold around 50 million whereas the genesis sold about 35 million . now i dont know about you but from those figures i would assume that snes won that war.

# Dreamcast — Guest 2006-11-05 04:41

Dreamcast was a great console, but very badly marketed. Plus, it was so easy to copy the game, they couldn't get profits out of it.

It deserved at least a C, and to me at least a B, just for Skies of Arcadia !

# .. — Guest 2006-11-05 04:42

dude... i stated i havnt played it but the system went down ...like way down ... it flopped and died. a few good games nor the superior technology can make up for that fact.

# xbox deserves a... — Guest 2006-11-05 04:51

Z--

# WTF — Guest 2006-11-05 05:11

Xbox + Fail

# .... — Guest 2006-11-05 05:14

this is so idiotic... how dare you give a better grade to gamecube then xbox.. thats hillarious the person who ever made this is really retarded...

xbox honestly deserves atleast a b+ you cant even like and at max an A- but a friggin D... daat juz makes me angry

# lol @ this — Guest 2006-11-05 05:17

This is the most biased article in the history of the media. I lawled big time.

# wtfbbq — Guest 2006-11-05 05:20

And that's owning every single console? EVERY SINGLE CONSOLE?? *repeats 10x*

# wtf? — Guest 2006-11-05 05:45

""Dude the PSP does suck a lot. they went wrong right from the creating of it...no 2nd anolog i mean how do you play any game without 2 analogs. also not high enough graphics/memory...gta vcs cant even barely run on my psp. and last of all Sony is probably the worst company in my mind. they ar ea failure company they dont listen to us and fix anything. im sticking with my computer that can play games CORRECTLY.""

what are you talking about with 2 analog sticks?

Before the Dualshock nearly every handheld/console had a max of one 1 analog stick. And many were successful.

And WTF about not good enough graphics? are you daft?

Before the PSP (which really drove nintendo to make a better handheld) for 10 years we had nintendo feed us 2d bull***** handhelds.

# I have tried the next gen consoles... — Guest 2006-11-05 05:50

I was on digiexpo in finland and they had xbox 360, playstation3 and wii there and I tried them all. I must say that the wii rocked with the new Zelda, Mario, that sports game, and warioware. I have to admit that the ps3 games looked awesome but that was all... same with xbox 360.

# Waait... — Guest 2006-11-05 06:01

UMD movies -- Slowly dying?

# power.. — Guest 2006-11-05 06:58

Isn't Ps3 only a bit more powerfull than 360? and isn't the wii at LEAST 2-3 times more powerfull than gamecube???

I guess it reall dosn't matter in the end.... we'll know soon enough...

# reality — Guest 2006-11-05 07:18

Genesis- A-

Nes- A

Snes- A

N64- A-

PS1- B-

Dreamcast- D

PSP- A

DS/Lite- C

PS2- B+

Xbox-A

Gamecube- C

you may not agree wid me but ds sux, psp has much more features and homebrew and stuff n64 killed last gen, ps1 jus got boring after a while and had many ***** titles. Dreamcast came and went in like 2 seconds. ps2 was good but xbox was exactly like it yet xbox had much better graphics and games, all ps2 had was ff and gt. gamecube, had good titles but was kept out of the race because the latter were more popular.

BUT NOTHING BEATS THE FIRST FEW CONSOLES

THUS:THE EMULATORS AND BETTER ON THE PSP

# BADLY done summary — Guest 2006-11-05 07:19

The actual article at Gamedaily reads a little more like a holiday buyer's guide, hence the oddly-skewed comparisions. Opinions are opinions, too, and ANY such comparisons WOULD be volatile conversation-starters, as we know how fanboys typically react (I've seen it ever since the NES & SMS were sparking playground arguments between Nintendo devotees and the few kids I knew who owned or had even HEARD OF the Master System.). The ARTICLE SUMMARY posted here is kind of badly done--no personal insult meant toward Kristine C. Gamedaily tackles everything in the list from a standpoint of current VALUE (likely shelf-life, functionality, price point, etc). The summary makes it sound as if randomly-selected points (library vs. longevity vs. sales vs. console design aesthetics [?!]) are being stacked up against one another, with no real rhyme or reason. Some of the wording is a little confusing, here, too, but that's why a LINK to the FULL ARTICLE is provided. Calm down, though, kids. It's not an end-all/be-all consumer report. We all know that if you rated consoles via similar criterion when they were actually thriving or compared ONLY to their contemporary competition, the list and ratings would be MUCH different. I'm with everyone else, too, who thought it a bit "iffy" to make an analysis of systems whose launches have yet to happen.

Oh, and, now that I've re-read what's posted here, for like the third time, I can't resist commenting on everyone's reluctance to see the PSP as kind of a failure, so far. It's NOT the most fantastic handheld ever created. The launch wasn't very well-received. Initial shipments were plagued with problems--untrue of the DS, on both counts, which is something you'd have to admit even IF you're a PSP fanboy. I'm personally pretty neutral on the DS vs. PSP issue. It's obvious that the DS is performing better, currently, but I still get more bang for the buck I dropped on my PSP, enjoying, thoroughly, the games I can play on my 1.5 via hacks and homebrew, along with many enjoyable emulators and what-not. My DS has been untouched for six months or so, now, because I'm just not really GRABBED by the available games and the somewhat gimmicky use of the stylus. Back to the PSP, though...It's a very powerful handheld that might've been a better value if its father company had maintained a more solid and directed PLAN for it, rather than alienating 3rd party developers with the Swiss Army device approach (remember N-gage? Seems like Sony could've learned something from Nokia's blunder) and trying to push proprietary tech as the NEXT WAVE in entertainment (Face it. UMD movies are NOT slowly dying. They're a pretty definite failure, even though a few units moved, out there, before retailers started abandoning them.). I'm not saying PSP suck(ed/s). It's a good shot for a first forray into the handheld market. They'll milk it for a while longer, likely, learn some things from their mistakes, and probably pull off some improvements, if they decide to go for a hardware revision or a second shot with a NEW handheld system. Since this is a forum that's populated by homebrew enthusiasts, there's no reason why its failure has to be accepted HERE, anyway. We've got something to continue playing around with, no matter WHEN it dies. If you honestly think it's going to last forever, you're just as much in the dark as those poor techno-sages of the late '80's, who prophesized that the NES would be letting us order groceries electronically for decades to come. =) Yeah, laugh it up. I actually READ an article about that, back in the day.

# DS/lite vs. PSP — Guest 2006-11-05 07:26

to settle this, please compare the burnout legends for psp and for DS/lite.

I JUST LOVE THE GRAPHICS ON DS FOR THIS GAME :)

plus most ds games are n64 games

ds has the power of an n64 and psp has the power of a ps2. so u tell me, wat do u like better, an n64 or a ps2

ILL SARCASTICALLY GO WITH THE N64 :)

# wow — Guest 2006-11-05 07:29

rating consoles that aren't even out, why give the xbox a D because games aren't coming out anymore and then even rate consoles coming out soon, how do you know the same won't happen to them in the future! and this is coming from some1 who has never bought an XBOX so none of that fanboy sh*t. Also many systems start out with a low availability and the number of consoles you launch with has nothing to do with how good the system is.

You also left out a lot of considerations, how about the amazing homebrew on the PSP which stems from the technology packaged in it. Last time I checked I believe DS can hardly run an SNES emulator. I think they are both amazing I have a psp and my girlfriend a DS lite but my point is each argument is only touching one spectrum of the system. Poor way of judging.

# no hes not. You are — Guest 2006-11-05 07:30

how is he retarded??? He is just stating that the article graded consoles that have not even been released yet, whil it ignored those that have been out for a while.

dumbass

# XBOX-PS2 — Guest 2006-11-05 08:31

i have an xbox, ps2 and a gamecube and i believe that the ps2 and xbox are equal. and the gamecube is worse than both them by far. deturb is correct, the xbox does deserve a better rating, atleast more than the gamecube!

# no way dumbass — Guest 2006-11-05 08:33

the PSP is better than the ds lite. the lite is mostly for little kids. and why is the PSP a failure. it has awesome graphics and can play music and movies and free games! the ds is cheap and the lite is made of crappy plastic!

# Ugh — Guest 2006-11-05 08:34

This article is utter bollocks and merely opinion. F*ck off.

# this is why we are considered the idiots of the era — Guest 2006-11-05 08:45

You buy a system for the whole package not just because you can mod it, please if you think that go make your own system and tell us when its out and we will make sure not to buy it.

# DS — Guest 2006-11-05 09:00

I'm happy that the DS got justice and came ahead of the psp :)

# You suck! — Guest 2006-11-05 09:11

The only good game that Xbox has is Halo and everybody knows that!

# YEahhhhhh! — Guest 2006-11-05 09:23

Xbox 360 as A and PS3 B+!!! :P:P:P I alway loved Sony Since they messed out with the PSP forcing almost ppl to upgrade.. I had a PSone, PS2 and now a PSP since June 05. Am I getting a PS3?!?! Nahhh F***ING BS! they had no respect for me and thousands of ppl with PSP.. Too bad! Im BOYCOTTING Sony from now on and planning to get a Xbox 360 on the date of November 17th (PS3 launch) that would be a big F**CK YOU at Sony's face! you will not have more of my money in your pockets again! God bless my 2.50 --> 1.50 PSP with my 40? isos!!! "ADIEU SONY!"

# LITTLE CORRECTION... — Guest 2006-11-05 09:28

I SAID "I ALWAYS LOVED SONY SINCE THEY MESSED OUT WITH THE PSP...

I wanna to said.. "UNTIL" they messed out with the PSP.. Excuse my French Canadian! ;) PEace!

# @stormy — Starayo 2006-11-05 09:55

"I agree, I'm supposing they're just prejudice against anything other than SONY, as, I'm supposing, they think we are because we like the PSP(a SONY product)"

This article is from GameDaily... Not QJ.NET

IMHO the PS2 has a better library of games than the Xbox, and I've never really had fun while playing an Xbox.

And I'm not a fanboy, either. I have trouble deciding which company I hate more, Microsoft or Sony. I think it's banking on Sony right now.

# Wow — DBmike 2006-11-05 09:58

So the Xbox has a bulky frame, that makes it get a D grade? WTF? Shouldnt the grade of the systems be based on the fun factor you get out of them, and what they do?

Please, this article is a joke...

PS2 - Easily an A for the amount of fun software it has had.

Xbox - B or B-, great third party support, but even more surprising was the amount of great original IP's developed on the system.

PSP - D, The PSP is a new system, it hasnt had time to mature into a real gaming system. Also, you are comparing it to other gaming devices, you have to rate it based on its gaming, which isnt terribly good yet. There are only a handful of must have games. the PS2 has a good 5 years on it, there is no way they can even be close in a grade...

DS - C, great software, great intuitive controls that hasnt been mainstreamed in games before. As time goes on, and the DS gets better games, the rating will ultimately reach an A at this rate.

and thats all I feel like doing..of course thats just my opinion, and I agree with a few other posters here on other things...but dang the main article was really biased or not very well thought through..lol D for xbox, B for PSP, and even rating the Wii and PS3 at all? WTF...

# your a retard. — Guest 2006-11-05 10:05

Giving the PSP D+ while the *****ing Super nintendo gets an A-?

Your either a fuucktard or just plain retarded to think that.

# based on my opinion, — Guest 2006-11-05 10:46

PSP A+ - there is no limit to what it can do(unless u hav 2.8 and above)

ps2 A- - made great improvements and unleashed a new era for videogames

xbox c - basically just an improved ps2, making it unorginal and its bulky

DS B+ - although it lacks some things, the ds brought on 2 things totally original

Wii A+ - like the ds, it brings out totally original ideas

xbox 360 D- - has barely any new features, all of which you can basically do with a psp, it freezes, crashes, way to bulky, overall pointless

ps3 B+ - has amazing features, offers great compatibality with the psp, cool design, amazing graphics, although high priced, which shouldnt matter anyways

gamecube B - - great for button mashers to learn how to play, small, although small games, not that many games

p.s. - Xbox 360 sucks!!! its a waste of money!!!

# Halo sucked — Guest 2006-11-05 10:57

first of all, both halos sucked. second, your right, the xbox doesnt deserve a D. A D-, F even. its totally unoriginal and the exact same thing as a ps2, only its bulkier, crashes constantly, and better graphics(which mean almost nothing). xbox sucks if you think both ways for half a seond. plus, you can't compare the newer nintendo products to other game systems - there totally in different classes. while the xbox is a solid game/crappy music system, nintendo gamecube is a system meant for those who are relatively new at gaming, and button mashers. thats why they have those freaky controllers. you are a retarded child who reminds me of george bush.

# *Cough* Fanboy Alert *Cough* — Guest 2006-11-05 11:23

uhhh... why is it that everything that you rated from sony gets a B+ average, and everything from Microsoft gets a bad rating?

# OMFG YOU GUYS ARE RETARDS! — Guest 2006-11-05 11:28

**NINTENDO** AND **SONY** HAVE THE PS3 AND WII RUNNING!!!!!!! THEY CAN SHIP IT OUT TO GAME REVIEWERS, SUCH AS IGN AND GAMESPOT! OK? NOW DO YOU GET IT!?

# xbox sucked. — Guest 2006-11-05 12:56

xbox deserves a F - basically just an improved ps2, making it unorginal and its bulky and its original games suck like halo - that was crap

# cube — Guest 2006-11-05 15:37

gamecube should get an f it sucks balls 360 is great deserves its a ps3 should be a d

# ugh — Guest 2006-11-05 16:13

why did i even read these comments. your all a bunch of f*cktards and need to get brains (and lives). arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. even if you win you're still retarded.

*farts in this article's general direction*

# weyetgr — Guest 2006-11-05 16:21

...And not even a quarter of the great games that of the PS2. So who Cares! It doesnt matter cause now the PS3 will be the most powerful next gen system. Now what you Xbox fanboys gonna spat out?

# wehtet — Guest 2006-11-05 16:23

Yeah I ownded a DS Lite twice and traded it in Twice. Thats how much I loved it. O_O

# iuhr — Guest 2006-11-05 16:27

First of all 360s so called "emulation" is a steaming pile of cr@p! Releasing patches for games 'whenever they get around to it'. Sony is making an official PSOne emulator for the PSP that will also work on the PS3. The Wiis Virtual Console is gonna emulate every previous Nintendo console with the addition of Genesis + Turbo Grafx, etc. So Nintendo has the advantage there.

# khfe — Guest 2006-11-05 16:29

*cough* Download Movies *cough*

# WRONG! — Guest 2006-11-05 16:31

The PSP has the power of a middle ground between PSOne + PS2.

# dhngdhd — Guest 2006-11-05 16:35

No ones forcing you to upgrade your PSP. Its your own damn fault and stupidity to do that in the first place. Having no respect? hardly, I believe its you who have no respect for them trying to integrate additional features on the PSP like a F***ING internet browser for example. Sony will not lose the console war if you boycott them. Youll eventually by one anyways once the price goes down. ;)

# gewht — Guest 2006-11-05 16:38

The PS3 is far superior to the 360 and the Wii is a little more powerful than GC. That is all.

# skljhsd — Guest 2006-11-05 16:40

You fail!

# the end of the xbox ps2 debate — Guest 2006-11-05 17:31

does xbox have devil may cry ,god of war , final fantasy, (metal gear, gta, when they first come out) and countless rpgs. xbox best francahsies halo, knights of the old republic, fable. until xbox get them some serious rpgs they cannot compete with sony. sony a- xbox c+

# wtf — Guest 2006-11-05 18:08

if you can afford a damn hd tv then you can get an hdmi cable your damn self so this shoulnt tally into the overall score

just really had to say that

# O HELL NO — Guest 2006-11-05 18:23

WHO EVER WROTE DIS ***** OBVIOUSLY LOVES THEIR DS AND GAMECUBE, THE PS2 SOLD WAYY MORE THAN THE XBOX, YEA THE XBOX IS SOOO GOOD WITH ITS ABILITIES IN GRAPHICS AND EVERYTHING BUT LOOK IT UP THE PS2 SOLD MORE, AND WAS CHEAPER, WTF, THE 360 SUXXX SOO MUCH, LIKE WHO EVER BUYS THAT OBVIOUSLY LIKES BILL GATES AND HIS WAYS OF FORCING PEOPLE TO BUY SOMETHING BECAUSE IT "SEEMS" TO HAVE SOO MUCH CAPABILITIES, THE PS3 AND THE WII EVEN SEEM BETTER THAN THE 360. TO THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS, WHY WOULD YOU RATE SOMETHING THAT HASENT COME OUT YET, THATS LIKE A PREGNANT WOMAN SAYING, THIS CHILD WILL BECOME PRESIDENT AND F*KK UP OUR FOREIGN POLICY, LMAOOO....1

# your points are absolutely retarded — lead2gold 2006-11-06 07:46

How exactly can you brag that your Xbox is better then your PS2 because you can pirate easier on it?

I'm pretty sure the article was written based on the majority of the population who buy their games. Not rejects like you.

Other then the lame bragging rights of having over 8000 pirated games to which you'll never get around to playing all of them. What is the point of your comment?

# j — Guest 2006-11-07 01:56

you suck psp rules

# i pwn — Guest 2006-11-09 12:20

the best game 4 360 is halo 3 even tho its not out yet

# Oh My God!!! — Guest 2006-11-11 04:34

This is by far the worst article written ever!!!!!

Here is my opinion

Ps1: A+ The reveloutionary console of the 90's

Dreamcast: B It was an amazing console, but lack of games proved to be its downfall

N64: B- Poor in my opinion, but was very popular

Ps2: A+ From 2001-2005 it was the dominant force of the market. It was the first console to play DVD's, Cd's and games, not to mention the masterstroke of backwards compatibility from Sony.

Xbox: B+ Microsoft's first console was pretty poor and was a complete copy of Ps2. Still though, some amazing titles make it a great console.

Gamecube: D+ WTF!!! Nintendo's worst console to date!

Only a very few titles were actually good.

PSP: A- An amazing portable device! Sony were spot on with a lot of things on this portable device, but unfortunatley some key mistakes make it a lot worse.

DS/Lite: B+ Nifty little device with some good features but ultimately as a portable console it can only be second best!

Xbox360: B The first next-gen console to arrive on the market. Has a lot of good qualities, but is ultimately flawed.

Ps3: I'm not in Japan so I don't know if it is good or not!

Wii: Looks like a great console. Can't wait to play it!

# ummm. Fanboy — Guest 2006-11-17 02:25

Psp? dropped.

# asvafdvrwsva — Guest 2006-11-26 05:20

Its called developmental units. They must have friends in high places.

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