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Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task"

Posted Feb 9, 2010 at 9:36AM EST by Glenn M.

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Motomu Toriyama, Square Enix, Yoshinori Kitase

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It's been 13 years, but the demand for Final Fantasy VII has not returned to the planet. The PSOne classic has long been a mainstay on PSN's most downloaded list, and the clamor for a remake is as persistent as the search for the Promised Land - that's even after Square Enix said no, no, and no. But if Sony was able to give God of War I and II the HD treatement for the God of War Collection, would it be possible to do the same for what could arguably be the greatest RPG of all time?

Through an interview with the European PlayStation Blog, Yoshinori Kitase and Motomu Toriyama explain their side:

We don’t know the details about the HD remake of God of War. If it’s just a case of attaining high resolution graphics, only, then that wouldn’t be that difficult, but if we were to achieve the same graphical standard as in XIII with a PS1 title, then that would be a huge, huge task. Almost unrealistic. Even with a PS2 title it would be difficult. In the case of God of War, there weren’t really that many characters in the game — the main character and some monsters, maybe ten people or so. That would not be unachievable.
As with Final Fantasy titles in the past, like on PS1, even just the main characters amount to around 10 people. Then you have all the NPCs, you’re probably looking at about 200 characters total. All with individual textures for the skin, plus costumes, facial features and everything. That would be a really tricky job.

So again, Square Enix hammers another nail into the FFVII remake coffin - that is, of course, until they decide it's time to whip out the Phoenix Down.

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Its Just something but issnt it posible that they are saying they dont and still make it ?
They Can at least hide it for us and then put it on the market ,
i love the way people think about No remake or remake or w/e the only thing is the Orignial FF7 issnt boring and shiz
its still a great game , im not against the remake but if they make one it better be a great one .. els it would be a waste of time and monney =] Greatz

+2 # RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Glenn M. 2010-02-09 11:26

if they're going for a remake, it's probably best to stay with the graphics. messing with ff7's gameplay would be too risky.

adding a "skip" or a shortcut for Knights of the Round would also be very welcome

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 11:45

its a good point though, what do people exactly want in a remake? this is my take.

i like the pre-rendered backgrounds, id be happy for them to stay but just in higher resolution. the character models need a lot of work but surely they have the engine for that already, KH:BBS / FFVII:CC. So the real time battle and world map need some work. Is it really that impossible?
I certainly was not expecting a full remake so it looks like FFXIIII

+1 # fgk — Guest 2010-02-09 14:06

i was...

+1 # I agree. — skidz 2010-02-09 14:12

They have all the original backgrounds, they can re-render them in high resolution. They could then make the world character models high poly, clean up the textures, clean up the HUD, clean up the battle backgrounds. It wouldn't be next gen, but it doesn't have to be. Just a graphical cleanup would be all this game needs.

-1 # RE: I agree. — Walo 2010-02-10 10:30

the only thing I would add to that is the character/monster turn indicator that FFX has. It was a very useful feature in FFX.

+1 # I don't agree — Guest 2010-02-10 18:55

FF7 has already been made... You don't remake a movie that was only made 10 years ago. I still have fond memories of first playing FF7. A remake wouldn't capture the same... kinda thing.

# RE: I agree. — Guest 2010-02-19 23:44

That, and a fresh grammatically correct translation. >.>

-1 # RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 12:03

Or they could open the code and let some fan community do this... but hey, I'm sure they never thought about this xD

# RE: RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — yoshi314 2010-02-11 09:49

Quoting Pierre:

Or they could open the code and let some fan community do this... but hey, I'm sure they never thought about this xD

the community is already doing a good job with ff7 the way it is.

custom models, custom effects, exceeding 9999 limits on hp,mp and damage, alternate video driver for ff7/ff8, texture replacements etc. that mostly applies to pc versions of ff7/ff8.

square would definitely never do that, though. all this was figured out by fans.

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Kokuun 2010-02-09 12:04

This has nothing to do with programming. Square has a good engine for ps3 (and xbox...) an the problem is that they want to make an game that is like other square games, what mean you will have in every city that you enter a “wow” effect. The big problem behind is in my opinion, the almost all parts of ff7 have only background bmp and to convert so many cities, places and dungeons etc. in a high def. grafik will take at least 1,5-2 years of hard work and cost mutch of mony. What square didn´t see is the fact, that ff7 would sell like hot cakes….

# RE: RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — gammy69er 2010-02-10 05:22

[quote name="Kokuun"]This has nothing to do with programming. Square has a good engine for ps3 (and xbox...) an the problem is that they want to make an game that is like other square games, what mean you will have in every city that you enter a “wow” effect. The big problem behind is in my opinion, the almost all parts of ff7 have only background bmp and to convert so many cities, places and dungeons etc. in a high def. grafik will take at least 1,5-2 years of hard work and cost mutch of mony.
But they have half of it done in Advent Children - And Crisis Core - just port the environments from there, give them a Spruce up, good as New.

# Sorry — gammy69er 2010-02-10 05:23

deleted quote marker, you get the idea though

-1 # RE: Sorry — Walo 2010-02-10 10:32

Don't forget the tech demo.

-1 # Best RPG of All time? — darckcast 2010-02-09 12:06

FF VII was a good and maybe the most popular but certanlly not the best, i think chrono trigger is better

# ... — Guest 2010-02-09 16:28

I totally agree. Chrono Trigger was much more engaging to play for me. Not to say that FFVII wasn't engaging, because it WAS a monster of a game; but Chrono Trigger was just next-level incredible for me.

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Kokuun 2010-02-09 12:12

it would make no difference for square if they would make a remake of chrono trigger or of ff7... the only difference is, that ct is like zelda a link to the past a game that would lose its charme if it would become a 3d game

# RE: RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Jack450 2010-02-09 14:09

Quoting Kokuun:

it would make no difference for square if they would make a remake of chrono trigger or of ff7... the only difference is, that ct is like zelda a link to the past a game that would lose its charme if it would become a 3d game

FF7 is a 3D game...you can't compare it to Zelda when Link to the Past was a 2D game. What made FF7 so awesome were the locations and the battle system, my favourite place in the game were The City of the Ancients and Cosmo Canyon. Remake those places with better sound quality and I'll give you all the money in my bank account and a handjob.

# you misunderstood — Guest 2010-02-10 20:42

he was talking about Chrono trigger being like Zelda he just abbriviated "ct"=Chrono Trigger

+1 # ^^^^ — Guest 2010-02-09 12:13

Finally someone with taste! lol. Not saying FF7 isn't good but.....

# Huh. — ShinseiTom 2010-02-09 12:20

So, dedicating a team of artists to work on this on and off over a year or two would be too hard for them? The only thing people want is a prettier FF7, not a completely redone from scratch FF7.

And surely they have lots of basic models for the main characters already made. Look at Advent Children, all the main characters and some possible NPCs already modeled at extreme high resolution! At the very least cut-scenes wouldn't be a huge hassle. Oh yeah, don't forget whatever they have left-over from Crisis Core too!

+1 # So much BS. — Guest 2010-02-09 12:24

So what this basically comes down to: "It's too much work."

I haven't played FF13 yet of course, I'm not into importing. But one consistent thing I've been reading about it is that it is 100% linear, there are little or no towns, and a major lack of sidequests.

So what I'm getting from this is that if Square Enix is basically complaining about remaking a game with numerous towns, sidequests, and people, then it looks like we're going to be getting bland Final Fantasy's for the foreseeable future.

# FF7 Remake — Guest 2010-02-09 12:31

I agree with only giving it a graphical overhaul. The blockyness of the Char's suck. Tinkering with the Game play would suck.

If that was remade it certenly would be past up in my books.

+1 # Its not too much work — Guest 2010-02-09 12:44

Technically remaking a game is the same as making the game
The good thing about remaking is that the main idea is already in a playable form in this case ff7.

its not impossible or anywhere near that. it is in fact possible it just takes some money and effort if a company does not want to put in such an effort for its fanbase. no one should support them.

just my 2 cents

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 13:24

Squenix = retarded at the moment!

Even if they put a full team of devs on this for 3 years to make all the lovely side towns/quests etc etc the profits would still massively outweight the costs! charge £50 for it and even if only those who downloaded the original psone version from the psnstore they would make a profit, hell i wouldnt even care if they were to make it multiplatform (as long as the xbox version this time actually didnt make any difference to the ps3 version).

The remake would be the biggest cash cow since .... well since ff7 lol!

even if they never do the remake tbh i would like them to sit down and look at what made ff7,8,9 great as they have seriously lost the plot a bit with the ff games after 9 (im still waiting to check out 13).

In a market which is either coming out of or still in recession surely you want to field your biggest players and make money! meh... they should have just stayed as squaresoft... that was when they were a great company!

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 15:47

they wanna make it, but they know how much time its gonna cost, i think that the remake will be maked

# just my 2 cents — Guest 2010-02-09 15:49

Look at it this way, ff7 has been selling very well for quite a while. So if a remake was done and it didnt change the game play then it would sell even better. Plus you already have the storyline, chacter designs, and so on. Even if it had ff9 or 10 grafics it would probaly sell well.

Just a reminder ff7 has been put on ps1, computer, psp, ps3 and has spin offs and even a movie. If theyd taken the money they made from just reselling the same game to us on different platforms we would have already had the remake.

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 16:10

I think that, more than a remake, this game needs a complete retranslation. Even reinterpretatio n. I used to dislike it a lot the first time I tried to play it (and left it when the characters escaped Midgard), but replaying it now I realized that there are only two big cons in FF7: the lack of an instant save, making you play over an hour between save and save (and that's really annoying, even half an hour is just too much) and the akward dialogues which need a lot of "tuning". And yes, I like the graphics as they are.

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 16:16

The world, story and characters of FFVII are old, tired and played out.

I'm convince that the strange obsession with FFVII by everyone is little more than nostalgia induced. Most FF fans that have played this series since the beginning will point to FF icons like IV, VI and IX as far better than VII.

Back in 1997, it was a landmark RPG that had incredible CG cutscenes, iconic characters, and a very cinematic story. Over 10 years later, the graphics don't hold up at all, the convoluted story pales in comparison to many other FF games, and the dialogue is cheesy (even for a FF game).

After a movie and an extended version of the movie, a re-release and quite a few spin-off games from PS2 to mobile phones, I think we can safely say that we have explored every bit of these characters and its high time that SE put their effort into other things.

# Star ocean meets FF universe — Guest 2010-02-09 23:24

Imagine square combined all the FF games worlds together using the system or star ocean and all of the main characters formed the squad of the main team to save the galaxy..... i would buy that game.

-1 # RE: Star ocean meets FF universe — Walo 2010-02-10 10:34

you talking about kingdom hearts? lol

# RE: Star ocean meets FF universe — dukesmurf23 2010-02-11 16:50

Sounds like dissidia... lol

# Couldn't they.. — Guest 2010-02-09 16:32

Couldn't they just use all the 3d models from Advent Children or something and do it that way? It's not that difficult to do. If they did that then it wouldn't be that much work. Even if it's not a complete remake of the game onto like PS3 or something I'd welcome a psp remake using the same graphics as Crisis Core. There again, half the work is already done. They're just making up excuses.

# time — Guest 2010-02-09 17:46

if SE ever gets into financial issues i reckon they will remake this to boost sales!

-1 # RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-09 22:55

Man, I wish EVERYONE would give the whole FFVII remake a rest. Who exactly would benefit from a remake?

Players who loved the game back in the days shouldn't care about the graphics, and players too young to remember FFVII probably don't get what's so appealing about it.

Yes, it would be neat to have an HD remake, but just HOW MANY games other than God of War - which was way more recent than FFVII - and Super Street Fighter II - much more simplistic - have gotten HD remakes in recent years?

Think about it: Square's trying to look ahead and develop an entire trilogy of games for XIII while also keeping work on FFXIV, the Kingdom Hearts series, and new titles like Nier. Why would they dedicate the time and money - probably twice the amount they spent developing the original - towards bringing back a game from two generations ago?

Move on please.

+1 # RE: RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — gammy69er 2010-02-10 05:33

Quoting W.:

Yes, it would be neat to have an HD remake, but just HOW MANY games other than God of War - which was way more recent than FFVII - and Super Street Fighter II - much more simplistic - have gotten HD remakes in recent years?

Resident Evil Series, how many different platforms has each of those games been Remade for. they weren't even HD - Capcom killed the Goose that laid the golden egg before if could drop the big one.

# This is BS... — gammy69er 2010-02-10 05:12

They will do it - Squeenix HAS already done half the work - FFV11 Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children have laid out the path. CC and DOC for the updates in Gameplay, and AC for the Modles, NPC's and Main Characters. The will bring this out, it's just about content. Yes, Remaking 7 would be good but Nomura San is not one to do things by halves.

The remake would be a conglomeration of the whole FF7 universe (the main games and features anywho), and May require Rewrites to tie it into one game, or a format in which they have several games in one - or many - either way, it would be - if at all - the FINAL, Definitive FFVII - therefore no one could ask for more.

@ W
dude, all Sequels to games are HD remakes - if they have the same characters, or environments, they could be classed as that. Yes, SF2 was a simple task, GOW was probably fairly simple too, just change Textures for the New ones, half of which you have. But niether of these games Have the Following that FFVII has. Ask anyone, even Square, they will tell you, that although FFVII didn't build the company, it certainly made it what it is today.

At the end of the day, they have everything all ready to go, they just need to adapt it - if they make it, it WILL make money, no if's, but's or maybe's. but as i say, Nomura likes Perfection, maybe it's just not ready yet

+1 # RE: This is BS... — Guest 2010-02-10 21:01

If all sequels to games are nothing more than remakes then that says something bad about sequels in general. Besides, it doesn't apply here because you're talking about remaking a game from two generations ago.

As other people - including SE - have said, they'd have to remake the game from the ground up. Sure, they could probably use the engine from FFXIII, but translating the massive open world from FFVII would probably be a huge ordeal that would require some hefty attention.

I doubt it's as simple as you think it is. Otherwise they probably WOULD have cashed in on this already.

# RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — pZo 2010-02-10 08:37

of they can remake ff3 and ff4. its just a matter of time for them to remake ff7.

but what i hope most is the remake of ff6 , even for nds or psp or wii!

# 2.5d — pookiepoo 2010-02-10 11:01

all they really need to do is a ff7 which is similar to crystal defenders then it would be cleaner, sharper and sound better.

# perfect! — tenkashicryoutmoar 2010-02-10 12:14

just because its old and looks silly doesnt make it an amazing game, it doesnt need a remake! the sprites in the old game worked with the interactions and scenes and "funnies" improved graphics arent needed! leave it alone! i mean id be nice to see what they come up with and curious to see how the new HD 3d graphics would look, but what if they cant pull 1 thing off, or they mess up a little! its not worth it, just dont remake it SQENIX!

# Not so easy. — Guest 2010-02-10 12:22

I would be the first to buy the remake, but as for the easy adaptation, they would have to completely remake the engine from the ground up. The demo was just visual, and the original engine would in no way support HD graphics. If I remember correctly it was just MIDI sound.

I feel it would be a smart move on their part to pair it with the launch of the PS4. It would sell the system by itself.
-fingers crossed-

# no hd remake — Guest 2010-02-10 14:48

i dont know how many times i bought this game i love the gamme but seriously i will not buy another version unless its a full blown remake including:
-graphics(there is no excuse for not doing so)
-Gameplay(its tired and old)
-Extras(and i mean a ton oof them)
-Exclusive to ps3 no im not a fanboy but we all know that the ps3 is capable of more and i want a game that pushes the limits on this console

and another thing im tired of square b*tching and whining about how hard something is / isnt look at devs like kojima who announces a game and releases it the following year in all countries as oppesed to square who announced birth by sleep a hand held gamee like 3 years ago and it just came out last month... a psp game

-1 # RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-10 20:47

but think of the sales!

# good old days — Guest 2010-02-11 00:59

I miss Squaresoft.

-1 # RE: Square Enix: FF7 remake "a huge, huge task" — Guest 2010-02-11 08:38

they already have HD versions of the main characters from advent children

# i think — Guest 2010-02-11 22:13

i think that square probably has it in production but doesnt want us knowing

+1 # If you think.. — Guest 2010-02-12 12:01

If you think it's simply to import models from AC you really have no clue. Even just that task is a lot more difficult than that.

Do I think they eventually might do something with this remake? It's possible, but I somewhat doubt it will be during this generation.

That they even comment about it is a proof to that they aren't ignoring it.

Unless you really know the limits of hardware, and the difficulty of producing and delivering a good game, as well as earning profits, you can't really say that it's easy or simple.

# ff7 remake — senz 2010-02-20 03:01

A remake of FFVII is really a bad idea it might make FFVII fans happy, just that the money they make from it would be bad.
If they did remake it they would just update the graphics? and change the combat system too?..

FFVII combat system was the tradtional RPG system use for the old generation RPGS, havn't you people seen the way they keep evolving the combat system in FF series starting from FFX..

If money is spent they would rather on a new FF storyline since they make money from the name "final fantasy"..

# No no no and no — Tseng 2010-06-07 21:46

The days when FF7 was good back in 1997 are over and have been over since Square became Square Enix. As a person who did a lot of study and research into the characters and plot of FF7, I can tell you there's a huge difference in quality in the sequels/prequels/spin-offs have been made. SE has concentrated heavily on making it all look pretty to woo fans-- but have completely neglected the story and in many cases have even trashed it. I saw great characters like Barret and Cid get turned into meaningless characters with no depth, I watched as some characters like Reno got completely turned 180 degrees in their character, and I nearly barfed through Dirge of Cerberus when they completely half-assed Vincent's backstory and reduced it to a cheesy degeneration of what it could have been. And through it all, we're provided with weak story plots a basic fan fic writer could come up with, enemies that make no or little sense in what drives them and are all together pointless additions, and we watch as the fans go "wow" and "ahhh" as Sephiroth is recreated only to die 10 minutes later just to appease everyone who wants that "Cloud/Sephiroth showdown" at the cost of the fact that this guy was a freakin mastermind. But no, lets forget what made Sephiroth a badass. Lets forget the importance of making deep, relateable, and well developed side characters. Why should they matter after all? Lets just make em look pretty to distract fans! And lets forget what made Final Fantasy good to begin with-- well made original story-plots. Oh and while we're at it, lets also forget that we have none of the original story writers in charge of these sequels. No! Lets just make it look pretty and bring in the profits at the cost of everything that made the original great. The fans will eat it up regardless because its "ZOMG, FF7!!!111oneone1one".

They fucked up the sequels and have even blatantly violated the canon to the original game just to add the pointless plots to go with those sequels/prequels. If they made a remake, it would NOT be the same because for them to do it right, they'd have to screw all the work they did with the movie and follow-up games. And c'mon, with a remake, do you really think they're going to concentrate on just upping the graphics? Don't be foolish. They will add crap and probably have to take some things out. Which is why, even if they make one, I'll never buy it because I see the "value" they place on story and its shit.

# Its been done before — Katana 2011-07-04 18:39

When Square Enix released Crisis Core, they effectively went back and remade all of the characters involved (Cloud, Aeris, Sephiroth, etc). They apparently didn't think it necessary to go in-deapth with all the NPCs because they just game them generic looks. It also wouldn't hurt to make certain parts have voice-overs like in their more recent games. Considering they've already made spinoffs of Final Fantasy VII, they only stand to make money from a remake.

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