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Sony fights off PS3 hackers via lawsuits |
Listed in: PS3 Tags: Geohot, ps3 jailbreak, Sony
Yes folks, you heard it right! Sony has filed legal suits against famed hacker GeoHot, the fail0verflow team and several other hackers for recently smashing the Sony’s “Private Keys” that opened up the PS3 security, enabling users to use unauthorized programs on the system.
As posted by GeoHot on his official site, the suit alleged that the defendants are in violation of federal copyright law as they have "circumvented multiple encryption and access controls in order to retrieve and compromise various Keys used by SCEA to prevent individuals from running unauthorized code on the PS3 system."
Sony also pointed out that the hackers “trafficked in circumvention technology, products, services, methods, codes, software tools, devices, component or part thereof, including but not limited to the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm Keys, encryption and/or decryption keys, dePKG firmware decrypter program, Signing Tools, 3.55 Firmware Jailbreak, and/or any other technologies that enable unauthorized access to and/or copying of PS3 Systems and other copyrighted works.”
Sony has requested the court for a temporary restraining order and "seeks the impoundment of any and all media in which circumvention devices are stored within the possession, custody or control of Defendants, including computers, hard drives, CD-ROMs, DVDs, USB sticks and other media.
Via [GeoHot]
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psgroove.com/content.php?643-Geohot-Responds-to-Sony-s-Legal-Motion
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Phoenix Wright(Geohot) vs Interpol Members(Sony)
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SCEA can't do shit to failoverfl0w.
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Maybe Geohot shouldn't have clowned Sony...Oh well...I'm with the Pirates on this one...anyone that can help me keep my money in my pockets is ok with me.
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he release a repackage tool that enable people sign anything to the ps3 and the ps3 tool can be use to unpack and repack psn downloadable games yes his own tools can make piracy happen without him know about it lol. when somone hack the system just for homebrew and can still use for priacy.
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I think it's silly that they can sue people for hacking their own PS3s, especially seeing as they haven't pirated anything. I don't think their case will hold up in court but the legal fees it'll cost for Geohot and fail0verflow to defend themselves are going to be enormous.
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Neither one directly applies to this case but both were what I was thinking of when I said that I didn't think this will hold up in court.
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I'm honestly not sure how they're planning on playing that card.
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Also, the DMCA is only enforced in the US, it has no legal standing outside the country.
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But anyway, for Sony, this is too little too late. The keys have already been released to the public and no amount of lawsuits will change that. The best they can hope for is to crush Geohot and overflow (decide for yourselves how likely that is) and make an example out of them for anybody else who wants to try this kind of thing in the future.
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so hacked ps3 only leads to stupid programs that enable people to hack online and just because its "their own ps3's" other people see the fuckers running through walls and floating in mid air
I hope sony stops the hacking before it gets worse
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And finally this method don't even work, it is reported working just for a couple of games because geohot leaved the firmware locked without the ability to run backups.
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Most of the people are ignorant and do not see what is the really value of the hacks and only use it for piracy.
Is not about being poor is about being smart, but yeah should`nt be for all.
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"Information wants to be free." -- Stewart Brand, (1st) Hackers Conference (1984).
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I'm not saying it'll do Sony any good. That's just the situation.
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What's gonna happen? Sony are going to claim they 'broke' the system, to which the hackers can counterclaim and say that Sony fucked us all over by removing features such as OtherOS and given that we were able to access these features when we bought our PS3s, that the hackers wanted to give us something we were entitled to in the first place.
What will happen though, Sony will try and remove their access to any of their equipment in a piss poor attempt to slow the hacking down. What they don't realise is, now that the keys are out there, there are more and more hackers willing to carry on the work of these guys.
The PS3 equivalent of Pandora's box has been opened and no matter what Sony do, it's way too late to close it.
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Wow, four paragraphs worth of text, and it's only one page. Looking good QJ.
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Anyway, if they're going to sue Geohot, I'm on their side.
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Those of us who didn't upgrade because we don't want to lose Linux have nothing to lose - we already can't go on PSN with the old "legitimate" firmware.
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I mean, geohot and fail0verflow didn't release pirated games themselves. failOverflow even specifically kept their scope to homebrew/Linux, correct?
I would love to be in the jury for this one.
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Oh wait, yes. He did.
He actually expected to get a job out of this from the company he cost millions of dollars.
What a goof.
He found a serious security flaw, released it to the public over the internet and THEN asked for a job in security with "the big 3"??
Maybe Osama Bin Laden should apply for a job securing the World Trade Center using that logic....... or maybe Homeland Security would be interested in "hiring" him. Right?
I honestly hope that every piece of electronic equipment he has ever owned in his lifetime has been confiscated by now.
I also hope he does some serious jail time.
Along with the clown posse who actually held a conference to announce how proud they are that they did break the law and laughed in Sony's face while giving their lame justifications as to why "Sony had it coming".
Every last one of them know what they did, how it affects Sony, and in the end AFFECTS ME.
Thanks for nearly killing the PSP, but I prefer my PS3 the way it was BEFORE you clowns started messing around.
Good Riddance, and I hope that you ALL get EVERYTHING that is coming to you.
As for you idiots defending him here:
"GeoHotz didnt release pirated software"
No. No he didn't.
What he did was make it possible to run pirated software on a machine that was rock solid and very secure before his meddling BS.
Effectively he, and idiots like him, reduced the PS3 to nothing more than a PSP.
If you have ever heard a company talking about how much they want to develop a game for PSP exclusively and what the "Homebrew" community means to that development and possible profits expected from releasing a PSP game....
You might actually realize that if you truly enjoy the PS3 and actual professionally developed PS3 games.... you just got screwed by GeoHotz, as bad or WORSE than Sony did.
Go hack an iPhone. Run with the sham you created by breaking the PSP.
But leave my PS3 the hell alone.
kthxbai.
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It's not "manufacturing guns and getting sued for murder done with one". It's more like causing an outbreak with numerous victims. By having the keys released, Sony will suffer MAJOR losses, the console will be heavily infested with piracy, not to mention the ludicrous amount of cheating online. I had heard that there were plans to block modifications when playing online. Well, guess what ? The keys are out, you can circumvent it.
The PSP has been completely abandoned by developers since the security got broken. What do you think will happen to the PS3 when everyone waves his middle finger at Sony and downloads his games ?
And face it: around half of the console owners didn't know what OtherOS is, 40-45% just didn't care about it, and a part of the rest didn't shed a tear when the service had been removed. Hackers, trying to be heroes, ruined the fun of those less interested in electronic affairs who just tried to have a good time.
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Did you know that 95% of statistics that people state are made up on the spot?
Who are you to say that 40-45% of people with ps3's didnt know what otherOS was???
Do the world a favor and spot SPITTING OUT RANDOM SHIT!!!
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That platform is the PC. I don't hear many publishers moaning and wailing about the millions and millions of dollars lost in this situation...unless they are making excuses to their shareholders to cover up shitty release gmaes.
Open systems do not *automatically* mean everything is pirated. The number of people actually pirating will be small and almost insignificant compared to what will be normal.
What sony has done here is to effectively announce to the world that their system is indeed wide open for piracy and given a whole community moral license to assist in spreading it.
They should have just ignored the whole situation and went on with business as usual.
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"seeks the impoundment of any and all media"
Good luck impounding the internet!!! Because that's where everything is.
The problem with Sonys case is, the PS3 was not hacked. It was glitched. Their security was broken. It would be like you walk up to someones house and try the door knob. While the door was physically locked, the lock was broken and the door opened anyway. That is not breaking and entering...it's just....entering.
All they will do is prove that Sony INCORRECTLY secured their system and that will be that.
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Sony, Make more secure systems if u dont want things like this happend.
What is true about All security doors in sony have the password 123456?
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btw the hacking was bound to happen (succeed)
so yeah alot of the comments left above mine can easily be applied to the other consoles
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I don't wanna see hackers in online gaming nor people getting banned for it =/
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oo ooo i have like 30 billion dam dollars don't mess with my shyt or il sue
pathetic?
thats sony for ya
there getting ffed in the A
and theres nothing they can do about it
except file a law suit that they will lose
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This American world is a very strange one. If I buy a toy, say a box of blocks and as a 5 year old stuff one in my throat, the parents are the blame, the blocks can be used that way, it is MY responsibility, as when I took them from the store they BECAME MY BLOCKS.
How the hell does Sony think to keep up this charade of Big Brother, cq. Microsoft 'We say where you want to go today'.
Oh, I understand that having a Custom Firmwared PS3 is a liability for PSN, so cut the thing off! Don't block people wanting to paint their blocks red, or carve them into president faces. That is their responsibility. Where is the time when all the item said: Warranty void if seal is broken.
Are big companies now making money by sueing people that prove your product is NOT unhackable of faulty? JEEZ, happy I don't live in the US where this kind of approach is legal AND endorsed.
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im an Xbox360 owner, but i DO understand why PS3 owners might be concerned, these keys being released is very bad, no security means they run ANYTHING they want, cheats, copied games and copied DLC, are just three examples.
i have experienced cheating on the 360, Modern Warfare 2, insta-nukes, but only a few times, i just reported the a-hole for cheating then carried on playing.
the PS3 keys are only going to make things like this far more frequent, before long the system will be FULL to the brim with cheaters, just watch.
and here's something else you might not know, or may have forgotten:
if you check the manual of your console, PS3 X360 or Wii, you DO _NOT_ technically own it, the respective company does, and if they want it back you are LEGALLY obligated to return it.
yeah, right, i parted with MY money, therefore its MY console, go f**k yourself corporate giants, focus your money on making more SECURE system's, then maybe i'll be more understanding.
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Besides that, most of the homebrew people want on their PS3s can be easily obtained on whats called a computer. Cross game chat? Use Skype. PS2 compatibility? I think most of us have adjusted to actually using our PS2s. Custom soundtracks? Windows media player does a FANTASTIC job of playing mp3s.
/rant
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all sony can do is void hacker's ps3 warranty & make better system.
that's why sony always behind nintendo, sony too serious & not fun.
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If I purchase the console, I am from that point on the owner and I'll do whatever the hell I want with it; I hacked my PSP 2000, are they gonna sue me?
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1. If you tamper with a protected operating system that is not your own property you are breaking the law.
2. Sony has every right to change, modify, take back, and add any functionality to their property. PSSST! They own the license to your PS operating system, people!
3. You can purchase a gaming console and the games that play on it...but that doesn't mean you own the rights to these products. Changing the functionality can result in getting your
altered console and online account banned from PSN. Game developers can ban or even sue you for cheating, altering, and copying their games. You do not own the license to the game.
4. All the excuses I see for Geohot are just plain retarded. Hacking in a vindictive manor over the issue of Sony taking back the capability to install Linux on your PS3 is not a valid excuse whatsoever. SCEA owns the PS3 system, if you're going to alter their product then don't connect online for updates- it's no longer an SCEA product if they don't agree with the changes made to it. They made it perfectly clear that they will be taking away the otherOS feature with a system update patch* that was a clue for you to catch up on the TOS.;)
5. These hackers might be smart enough to "jail-break" the PS3 but they are too dumb to have forgotten that selling something you don't own the rights to is just plain ILLEGAL.
6. If you haven't considered these relevant points I have made above you are officially someone who lacks any knowledge related to this matter and should consider yourself a complete dingus.
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