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Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs

Posted Mar 21, 2010 at 8:35PM EST by Mabie A.

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Michael Pachter's back with another of his two cents, this time regarding the power of the PS3. In the latest episode of Pach-Attack, he makes no qualms admitting that it's his platform of choice. And of course, he had to make his declaration sound controversial by saing that the PS3 is more powerful than 90% of all PCs.

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Asked if he thinks the PC market is dead, he posits it's getting there. "The PC market if you think about it just as package products sold -- and let's include Steam in there, not subscription like World of Warcraft is something like six or seven percent of total games sales -- it's not a big number," he started.

"It's becoming a declining industry becaues you can get a near PC experience on a console right now, and I know flamers, you all have PCs that just crap all over the PS3 and are much, much more powerful. But the PS3 is a pretty powerful box and it's probably more powerful than 90 percent of PCs out there."

For the final slam: "The Xbox 360 is probably more powerful than 85% of PCs out there."In not so many words, Pachter doesn't think PCs can do the trick.

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Comments

+14 # fan — Guest 2010-03-21 22:22

i work in technical support. we are still troubleshooting people with windows 98 machines. I believe this statement

+4 # RE: fan — Walo 2010-03-22 08:59

hahaha I repair computers, and is unbelievable the amount of "dinosaur" computers out there.

+1 # Yup, same here — Guest 2010-03-22 14:21

I totally agree with you guys, people have been bringing in P2's over the past few months.

so if 50% of that 90% are dinosaurs, no wonder the ps3 is more powerful than 90% of pc's.

I love my PS3 though =)

+8 # RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-21 22:31

Consoles are so much easier to play games on. You have so many different types of pc configurations that compatibility almost always becomes a problem. Plus you have all this copy protection its too much of a hassle.

+6 # hes quite right — Guest 2010-03-21 22:32

I used to love my PC gaming until well consoles are just better. i mean i do have a dual core I7 with 2x GTX 295 and 8GB ram but i play the PS3/Xbox more. There is nothing worse than the BSOD in the middle of a game when some custom driver crashes on you, but its the only one to work on that game... GRRRRR thats the pc life!

# RE: hes quite right — PKLegends 2010-03-22 04:11

Quoting Jamie C:

I used to love my PC gaming until well consoles are just better. i mean i do have a dual core I7 with 2x GTX 295 and 8GB ram but i play the PS3/Xbox more.

Since when do they have dual-core i7?

# Look it up — Guest 2010-03-22 05:55

i7 is applied to a bunch of processors for intel. They slap the label on a lot of different style of processors. While he may be mistaken that his desktop has a dual-core i7, they do make one. The "Arrandale" is one example. Look up "Intel i7" on wikipedia and you'll get more information on the subject.

# hmmmm — Guest 2010-03-22 06:10

ever since they started making i7s like a i7-620m that is a dual core.

# i — rockethot 2010-03-22 07:26

The Core i7 620M is dual core.It Runs at 2.66ghz, and 3.33 ghz in turbo mode.

+5 # LOL — Davidthefat 2010-03-21 22:34

My PC is like 6 yeas old, with only 700 MB of ram and no video card... Hell yea My PS3 is more powerful than my PC

# . — DSpider 2010-03-25 06:49

You do have a video card. It's probably onboard. And you have more RAM than I do. :) I bought mine in 2003. Can't do much gaming on a Geforce 4 MX 440, however I have finished all Prince of Persia games (except for "4"). Even The Sands of Time through a program called 3DAnalyze. And even Tomb Raider Legend, Anniversary (but not Underworld).

+3 # RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-21 22:35

yep i dont c myself paying over 2 thousand dollars to play just or less of a hand full of titles, like diablo 3- is there anything else interesting coming up for pc ?!?! hentai games? oh yeah star craft 2
but the ps3 is pretty sweet im happy with it right now and titles.

# Are You S2pid? — pinoy_92 2010-03-22 22:14

The computer I am using right now cost about $2400, so far I have not look back. The reason that most computers cost more than consoles is that you can do more with a computer than play games. Sure, you can watch Blu-ray on the ps3, but can you edit videos, design graphics, or even create a program using C, C++ or even Visual Basics. I use my Alienware M17x mainly for games, such as: MW2, BF: BC2, DA: origins, GTA IV, Burnout Paradise City and many more. All these games I can play at the highest resolution with no problems at all. I also use my laptop for graphics designing, by that I mean using programs such as: Adobe After Effects CS4, Autodesk 3ds Max 2010 and Adobe Photoshop. I also use my computer for many other reasons that require high-end processors, it is in plural form because I use quad-core on my laptop, as well as a high-end graphics adapters, it is in plural because I have two NVIDIA GTX GeForce 260m's on SLI. I am, however, jealous that the consoles have better games like: GOW 3 and FF XIII. But, if you compare a PS3 with a computer "over 2 thousand dollars" that is because you can do more with computers compared to a console. By the way, if you want to play a game with the best settings possible, it would be much more cheaper to buy a graphics card that cost about $200 than buying a PS3 and the graphics would be pretty much the same.

So, to wrap things up, unless the PS3, or Xbox 360, can do high-end computing, like I do, then there is no comparison!

Please note, this comment is only referring to the comment posted above

# RE: Are You S2pid? — Kaden 2010-03-23 00:05

Quoting pinoy_92:

The computer I am using right now cost about $2400, so far I have not look back. The reason that most computers cost more than consoles is that you can do more with a computer than play games. Sure, you can watch Blu-ray on the ps3, but can you edit videos, design graphics, or even create a program using C, C++ or even Visual Basics. I use my Alienware M17x mainly for games, such as: MW2, BF: BC2, DA: origins, GTA IV, Burnout Paradise City and many more. All these games I can play at the highest resolution with no problems at all. I also use my laptop for graphics designing, by that I mean using programs such as: Adobe After Effects CS4, Autodesk 3ds Max 2010 and Adobe Photoshop. I also use my computer for many other reasons that require high-end processors, it is in plural form because I use quad-core on my laptop, as well as a high-end graphics adapters, it is in plural because I have two NVIDIA GTX GeForce 260m's on SLI. I am, however, jealous that the consoles have better games like: GOW 3 and FF XIII. But, if you compare a PS3 with a computer "over 2 thousand dollars" that is because you can do more with computers compared to a console. By the way, if you want to play a game with the best settings possible, it would be much more cheaper to buy a graphics card that cost about $200 than buying a PS3 and the graphics would be pretty much the same.

So, to wrap things up, unless the PS3, or Xbox 360, can do high-end computing, like I do, then there is no comparison!

Please note, this comment is only referring to the comment posted above

on my ps3, i play BF: BC2, DA: Origins, GTA IV, & Burnout Paradise all on high settings as well..

# RE: RE: Are You S2pid? — Guest 2010-03-23 21:43

what he means is computers arent just for gaming and surfing the web

# oh yea? — pinoy_92 2010-03-23 21:44

really? you can?

that is not really the point i am making.

the point was that can you do graphics designing using your PS3?

# Idiot — Guest 2010-03-23 22:07

Stupid ps3 graphics are like mid on pc.
Pc maxed out is waaayay thtee hell better than xbox or ps3

# High settings eh? — SgtMoo 2010-03-29 05:21

PS3 has no such thing as high settings, every game only has 1 set of settings. Most of the time they're not even full HD. On a Desktop however you can go higher than full HD, 1920 x 1200 anyone? how about 2560 x 1600...can the PS3 do that?...no?...didn't think so.

BTW I have a desktop and PS3, and cant stand an FPS on PS3, absolutely no precision with a thumbstick, mouse > thumbstick anyday.

# lol really — Guest 2010-03-25 19:38

welll a decent dual core thats made from intel only costs like 100$ and plus if your not after the best like i core 7 then the total amount of the rig won't even add up to 2 thousand dollers.

-2 # ... — TheReaper 2010-03-21 22:36

haha what a caricature... i feel that comp games are better for the younger gamer generation but as for me they are ok for a very short time before i get bored of playing it. i have always preferred console games over pc... the first game i played and beat was on a console and when i got my first comp the game could not compare... (

+1 # RE: ... — TheReaper 2010-03-21 22:42

♥ green screen) but i do not feel that its more powerful then 90% of pc's... for gaming... sure... but not for surfing the net... it takes about 4-5 times longer to load a web site off my ps3 then from my pc.

-1 # ... — Techni 2010-03-22 05:12

then install firefox.

+1 # RE: ... — TheReaper 2010-03-22 16:37

wtf are you talking about... if you are talking about putting it on my ps3... cant.. im a slim user so i cant get Linux on it.

-5 # RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-21 22:42

More like 60%. Just a quick glance in this average HP magazine I have right here, there are multiple computers with i7's and GTX 260's. Most are under 700$. Which means the average person could have this systen rather easily, since 700$ really isnt that bad for that beast.

And of course, the i7 assrapes the ps3 and 360 combined.

Patcher is just an idiot, like always.

# RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 01:24

doubt it, people do not have the high end computers that you think. Both of the desktop computers in my house are at least 2-3 years old and my PS3 would probably crush them. People buy computers that are powerful enough to run the internet and DL a couple files here and there. The top end PCs are only bought by the rich or by PC gaming addicts.

# Not really — Guest 2010-03-22 06:02

I think you confuse the percentage based on your personal experience. You may see a majority of people like you with nicer computers and you look at all these PC's out there at low prices and assume people are buying them up. The fact of the matter is that $700 is quite a bit of money for someone making the average salary plus bills. Because of this a lot of people tend to stick with their existing computers regardless of how outdated they may be. His percentage does seem a bit high but reasonable. If he had of said something like 90% of PC's used by gamers then I would say he's crazy. But that's not how he worded it. He's all about the word games and this one was well played.

# RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Musev 2010-03-22 09:10

his comment is to be taken the same way as somebody saying horse riding is more deadly than taking extacy

if you cant understand how then its you thats the idiot!

the first comment by hairytaintinsk sums it up

+1 # RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-21 22:46

saddly i got to agree,

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-21 23:05

there is something that he clearly forgot, until consoles get mice and keyboards (or something like a mouse and zboard) the consoles will remain useless for shooters, rts and serious rpgs.

also to make a desktop (from the last 3 years)to be more powerfull than the ps3 it only takes a $100 graphics card

# ... — MADMAN-_-zZ 2010-03-21 23:51

Although I do somewhat agree with you, a Pc is more then a graphics card to beat a PS3, when you add up the cost of a Pc to play games as well as a PS3 I think you come close to break even.

# RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 00:46

PS3 is already kb/m ready. It's just the devs choice in not using it. Me myself, I have hands too big for keyboard movement and it's a hassle. My hand will get cramped.

# Well hello captain fucking obvious — Guest 2010-03-21 23:53

The "majority" of pc users aren't gamers.
He aught to try looking at Gamer's PC's. I think the results would shock his stupid ass. And seriously, who the FUCK is this douchebag and why the fuck is he always plastered all over this site?
Does he make games? No.
Does he make game hardware? No.
In fact I shall quote a comment left on an article about this prick over on Joystiq:
"Joystiq has turned into Pachter central lately. The annoying thing about it is that none of us give a rats pajamas about what that douche thinks, yet Joystiq seems to think his opinions make interesting stories. Is Joystiq purposely trying to piss off all of their readers?"

# RE: Well hello captain fucking obvious — Vman00 2010-03-22 15:34

Quoting Kingp:

The "majority" of pc users aren't gamers.
He aught to try looking at Gamer's PC's."

And since the average pc users aren't gamers, then that should mean that those users don't have a powerful pc. And of course a gamers pc would be a bit powerful than a console. That and including the fact that pc came be upgraded.

# ... — Souljaboy56 2010-03-22 19:35

actually thats not entirely true... i have a gaming pc but my PS3 is more powerful than it..

# LOL — Guest 2010-03-23 11:35

Than you don't have a very good gaming PC. The graphics card in the PS3 which is called the RSX is based off the 7950 Geforce series. I can get a 7950GT off of Ebay for around $120-$150. You can pick up a Geforce 260GTX easily for $200 on newegg when they are on sale and this card is worlds better then any 7950 it will probably even compete with the 7900GX2 which is basically two 7950s SLI'd on one card. So the PS3 has a card that is 4 generations old compared to what you can get on PC. The PS3 CPU doesn't have 7 Cores it has 1 General Purpose Core with 7 SPEs so a Core i7 Quad Core would beat it in general purpose performance as it has 4 cores with two hardware threads capabilty per core, to give you an idea of the performance of that the Xbox360 has a triple core CPU with two hardware threads each. So while it might cost about 1000 dollars to make a decent gaming computer it can do so much more and better then the PS3.

# yer — Guest 2010-03-25 19:43

Deffinatly souljaboy56 what graphics card is yours then seeing as your saying it isn't as powerful as the ps3. I mean come on think of it logically anything would be faster than a ps3 so long as it has a nice quad core and a few gbs of ram and a gtx or higer graphics card.

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 00:40

There will be a day when some "genius" at sony, ninetendo or microsoft realize that having a mouse and keyboard on one of their consoles will open up the world of MMOs and RTS games on the console market. And even I, a very avid PC gamer, will make the switch.

+1 # .. — Afrit 2010-03-22 04:54

Quoting cap1:

There will be a day when some "genius" at sony, ninetendo or microsoft realize that having a mouse and keyboard on one of their consoles will open up the world of MMOs and RTS games on the console market. And even I, a very avid PC gamer, will make the switch.

PS3 can support a mouse and keyboard already.

# RE: .. — Guest 2010-03-22 10:56

so could Dreamcast, it's not about 'support' but forcing devs to implement support for something like MS did with online support for Xbox 1

# RE: RE: .. — Afrit 2010-03-23 02:13

Yes, Dreamcast has its own keyboard/mouse.
The Dreamcast controller wouldn't do good for FPS with only one analog stick.

Even in PlaySation2 Red Faction, Half-Life & some other games had support for kb/m :

But for the current generation of videogame consoles. Sony still give the developer the choice, while Microsoft didn't allow it for Unreal Tournament 3 or any other shooter game.

I think Microsoft reasoning for that is to differentiate the the consoles form PC-gaming.

Always thought about a videogame console as a living room piece. Simple and convenience to hook up and play on couch not requiring desk and chair setup.
Microsoft want to keep that image.

Consoles games market share is rapidly increasing because it easily can attract new young gamer looking for hardcore games comparable -to some extent- to what u can get in PC without a hustle.

I don't think they should force developers to support it either. It must come from consumers.
...there is a petition for it.
www.petitiononline.com/x360kbm/petition.html
www.petitiononline.com/ps3kbm/petition.html

+1 # but.. — Guest 2010-03-22 00:41

I think the problem is that the average computer users (who far outweigh the gamer pc users) DON'T buy these $100 dollar graphics cards because they just plain don't need them. However once we get to the point where said graphics card becomes the standard on pc's...we'll have a different story altogether..

+1 # ... — SeRosiS 2010-03-22 01:45

Yeah, but I can't look at porn, surf the web, watch a movie and bootleg every season of Futurama all at the same time on a PS3.

Nor can I play Mass Effect...

Fuck Pachter up his retarded hemorrhoidal asshole

# Keyboard and Mouse. — ShinFuYux 2010-03-22 02:09

It's a pain in the ass. I hated how you can't play Mass Effect 1 and 2 with a controller.

Crysis works well with Keyboard and Mouse, everything else.... just annoys me and cramps up my hands. Controllers are way more superior than a keyboard and mouse, in my opinion.

# RE: Keyboard and Mouse. — skidz 2010-03-22 02:20

Platformers perhaps, but third person, first person, strat, MMOs, are all better on the K&M.

# pfffffffffffff why — vizard00 2010-03-22 08:26

such opinion who bring MW2 to life and the FPS choas then . pls keep in ur console and leave PCs to people who understand it .

-1 # RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — skidz 2010-03-22 02:10

Well Sony want the PC market (and the 360) to fail, they want you all to buy their system so they can control you every step of the way, and charge you for it as well.

-1 # RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — skidz 2010-03-22 02:20

An interesting link to view.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

# ... — Afrit 2010-03-22 05:18

Quoting skidz:

An interesting link to view.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Really interesting statistical data.

Quoting skidz:

.... so they can control you every step of the way, and charge you for it as well.

what a conspiracy!

And you know they made the Move work with the PlayStation Eye camera so they can control us while watching us All the Time

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 02:39

Well... For any given game that's released on PC and any other consoles... Reviewers' statement regarding best gaming experience has always been the PC choice. Why is that?

PS3 may sport a spankin' cell processor, but it only packs 256MB of System memory and 256MB of Video memory.

Most PCs sports at least 1GB of memory... Generally 4GB in even casual gamer systems... I'll even say that 2GB of such memory goes to windows and background processes... that still leaves 2GB of system memory for... oh I don't know... TEXTURES? Larger and higher resolution maps? Oh wait, I forgot to mention... even a $50 video card packs at least 512MB of memory, let alone a decent GPU which usually packs 1GB vram.

Also note that the PS3's RSX was built by Nvidia before the GeForce 6800 GTX Ultra... And they touted at the time that the RSX is more powerful than TWO 6800 GTX Ultra... Ok, lets just say they designed the RSX to be 1 generation after the 6800's power... 7800 GTX in SLI then?(giving a bit more benefit of the doubt there) We can easily snag an 8800GT on PC for around a benjamin... and that card is a beast.

What does all these jargon mean? It means that if anyone were to want a gaming PC, it can easily be had for roughly $200 assuming he/she needs to upgrade both the system memory AND the video card. Sadly, every home has a PC... and unfortunately, the head count for those who needs to call HP how to check their yahoo mail on their shitty Dell computer far out weighs the PC Gamer population.(yes, you read HP and Dell correctly.)

This Patcher guy needs to shut up.

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 03:12

botht the 360 and PS3 are certainly more powerful than the PC I'm using :S

# um — DXcellence 2010-03-22 09:11

Anyone with a decent i7 build takes a shit on ps3/360 architecture. Hexcore processors are out too, the i7 980x uses 6 cores and 12 threads, but of course at a hefty price. But im pretty sure my i7/ati 5850 eats a ps3 for breakfast. I think even an i5 with a 5850 or a gtx275 is probably good too.

But of course its all bout the games

+1 # Pachter... — Guest 2010-03-22 09:30

Most of the time, I skip reading what this guy has to say, because either it is completely made up by him, or it's obvious stuff that makes me want to tell him "NO S***, SHERLOCK!".

Anyway, one thing is certain: a PS3 may seem expensive, but if you compare it with a good gaming PC, the PS3 has more value (same holds true for the Xbox, although it probably won't last as much as the PS3, but only the future will tell).

If you disagree, think about how long a good gaming PC will last playing the latest games in full detail. If you buy a brand new machine with a good graphics card right now, in one year there will be games that will make it look like crap just because they are using a "new technology" (with no real visual quality improvement).

Next, if you compare prices, a good gaming PC price will always be more than the double of a PS3 or a Xbox 360.

Console games are usually much better optimized and force developers to push hardware limits, while on PC you see the devs being lazy just because there is better hardware available. This is why I gave up on PC gaming, at least for now while my PS3 does the job perfectly (going to make 2 years and games keep getting better every day).

If it's not for gaming, most cheap or old PCs will do. I still have a PC from 2002 (with an upgraded processor from 2004 and more memory, but same motherboard) connected to a HDTV that does everything I want except playing games, and a laptop from 2004 that runs a recent linux distribution and beats the crap of any recent windows PC, except for playing games. These fulfil my computing needs, except for playing games (and watching some hi-def movies from a Lumix ZS3 camera I have, but the PS3 once again is here to save the day). So, no need to buy a new PC.

Only "advantage" of PC gaming would be how easy you can get pirated games to run (in some countries, like mine, the mentality of most people I know is not to pay for the games, preferring to get pirated copies from a friend or from the net, and the mentality of the publishers is to excessively overprice the games on any platform, even if they have almost 1 year), but once you have access via internet to developed countries like the UK where the gaming market is accessible to anyone, it isn't very expensive to maintain a good game collection of legit games.

# Well Said! — Afrit 2010-03-22 11:40

Or well written

And Pachter definitely needs to STFU.

# Well Said! — Afrit 2010-03-22 11:39

Or well written

And Pachter definitely needs to STFU.

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 12:25

First I was all like:
"Wtf, that's bullshit he doesn't know shit about computers, sure, the CPU is probably more powerful but the GPU?"
Then I remembered the computers at my school.

Oh and for another name:
I'm still using mt 8800 GT and 2.33 Ghz C2D with higher detail than the Ps3 and the 306.
They're three years old.
Actually, full detail would mean something like:
16x AF
atleast 8x AA
MUCH bigger textures
More polys
Better physics.

And alot more and the truth is that the consoles can't do this.

Left 4 Dead 2 actually looks rather bad when compared to it's PC version.

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — jjcobra 2010-03-22 13:05

You know I actually am beginning to think Pachter only keeps talking because the people here at QJ keep posting his comments. So maybe we should bitch slap Mabie A. for giving Pachter more reason to open up the whole in his head that lets retarded spill out.

# RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — jjcobra 2010-03-22 13:06

damn typos and no edit option. Yes that's supposed to be hole in his head. As opposed to his whole head.

# PC gamers Panties.... — Datnizzle 2010-03-22 13:12

Chillout Guys. He's not saying the PS3 is more powerful than your PC but 90% of PC's people own. My PS3 is not more powerful than my PC, I have 8gb of ram, HDMI, Blu-ray etc... It runs Mass Effect at full spec. Not that I play it.
Most people on the other hand have a 5 year old computer that they can get email on. I used to burn disc to play in my PS3 because my PC wouldn't play 1080p video without skipping. Add to that that PS3's don't have as much background crap going on as a PC and it's easy to see what he's saying.

# PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — senz 2010-03-22 13:18

The Ps3 may be powerful than 90% of PCs but the game loading times still sucks due it reading off the disc, unless the data was install onto its HDD.

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 13:18

Then XBOX 360 must be more powerful than 99% of computers because it has a powerful hold over me like no other machine ever has! Well done Microsoft, Well done indeed!

# RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 18:45

except when you have to send it in on a monthly basis due to rrod right?

# RE: RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-23 05:43

I have 3 XBOX 360s which I continue to use in rotation, when one sadly passes away I send it to them genius' at Microsoft to fix and get one of my others out while they do it. It's only Common Sense to back up your back up console! Well Done Microsoft, Well Done indeed!!

# RE: RE: RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-23 21:57

and its only sense to STFU!! cuz ur a gay piece of shit!!

# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-24 14:56

Yes I am, Yes I am indeed

# RE: Pachter: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 19:26

Some people forget that the PS3's CPU does vector processing....

# PC gaming is dead because of hacking — davidg 2010-03-22 19:54

I mean, I paid my 1st PC game back in 1998, then I never ever paid a PC game... It's too easy to simply download the game. The only games that can sell are the internet based games, like World of Warcraft, some FPS (call of duty, etc) and surely starcraft 2 (battle.net). That's it. It's fall when consoles will have a better support for keyboard and mouse. (Even if the PS3 is already compatible with all keyboards and mouse, it's not all games that are compatibles).

# RE: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-22 20:17

Lets say a person wants a gaming computer. Average cost is around $1000-$1200 that right there is MORE than the cost of either PS3 or XBOX360. Considering that the equipment on the computer becomes obsolete 6mo after production you may need to buy replacement hardware to accommodate new games that come out. Increasing prices. Therefore, it is actually cheaper, easier to own a console rather than a PC that is outdated after 6mo. Also considering that the hardware found in both the consoles are mostly custom made and cannot be found in most PC stores.

# RE: RE: PS3 is more powerful than 90% of PCs — Guest 2010-03-23 00:36

What you're completely ignoring from the equation is that MANY computer systems people buy since 2005 just for daily computing already has most of the parts required. They generally come with 2GB ram even on shitty systems.

Now think about it... Most of these systems come with Intel integrated graphics... and an empty PCI-E x16 slot. Simply shell out $100 for a video card and you're right up there with the capable gaming system. Maybe 2GB is too little? throw in more ram. At 5 years old, their memory is guaranteed to be on DDR2... and those memory are dirt cheap.

You don't NEED to run out there and buy ALL the parts for a gaming system. A computer is already in every house hold and I'll even say that they are 5 years old... they would still easily sport a dual core and at least 2GB of ram. As I already alluded to in my previous post... It's just the graphics card that many pre-fab systems are missing. Throw in an 8800GT in there and it'll fly.

so... $200 for video card AND memory (that's a rather generous upgrade amount)

# If PS3 was half as powerful as PC's Bad Company 2 would have AA... — Guest 2010-03-22 22:18

If PS3 was half as powerful as most PC's these days it would include Anti Aliasing on most games....

GTAIV/BC2 look down right ugly in HD, not to mention they can only be played in 720p or less...

FACT: Most PS3 games don't play in HD. They play in resolutions less then 1280x720...

FACT: Not only do they use sub par resolutions, they also do not have anti aliasing support.

There are only a select few games that look great in HD on PS3. Uncharted 2, MGS4, and Killzone 2. Everything else looks iffy.

Modern Warfare 2 for example doesn't even play in 720p, and its the biggest game ever....

PS3 is more powerful then 90% of the PC's that came out in 2005.

# Mice for Consoles — Guest 2010-03-23 02:02

The New motion controller for the PS3 (MOVE)(works like a mouse) They are moving slowly into that direction.

# crap man — Guest 2010-03-23 07:42

You better go see a gaming pc 1st before saying crap ok? i know upgrades in the pc is expensive but it is worth it more detailed than the ps3. anyone agree?

# hrm — Guest 2010-03-23 08:37

to the statement above.... BC2 doesnt have AA and not in HD i blame the developer its there choice....i guess they were in a rush....trust me GT5 will look insane but then again they spent more time on the game... dnt get me wrong i am a PC gamer have been for a few years was a serious CS player from 1.6 to CSS clan team and all , now a PC bad comapany 2 player which i like with PC is dedicated servers love em... but wat his saying maybe not 90% but most pc's arnt top of the line .... its just not cheap keeping up with tech yeah AA in games look great but it aint worth $700 GFX cardz i7 cpuz remember every time new CPU is out u gotta get a new mobo ... these days decent mobos are like $300 AUS

# Wait? what? — Guest 2010-03-23 09:53

PS3 = 7800GTX (If I'm not mistaken), anyone else know how long ago that was in the computer market?

If you want to fight on the HD, computer have been playing beyond 1080p for years and years. 1920x1200 for a long long time.

90% of computers, yes, 90% gaming computers... more like 5%

To be more accurate, PS3 Vs computers = the 90%, which we could do the reverse, Area-51® ALX Desktop Vs Consoles = PC beating all consoles, some by unprecidented margins.

# Both are great — Guest 2010-03-23 13:28

well im one of those 10% guys

love both consoles but i have only PC

both are epic. KEEP IT UP SONY!

# chill out — Sack Boy 2010-03-23 17:14

everyone chill aut its just pachters opinion its not like his opinions have to be yours you dont have to accept them if you dont want to

# . — DSpider 2010-03-25 06:05

85% isn't 90%, now is it, Mabie ?

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