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Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format

Posted Sep 22, 2010 at 10:17PM EST by Ryan F.

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Blu-ray, Microsoft

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Microsoft believes that the Blu-ray format won't last long, and it will be “passed by,” before it can become the format of choice of the gaming industry. Speaking to Xbox360Achievements.org, Stephen McGill, Xbox UK boss says:

"I think people may have spoken about that originally, but that's long gone. I think people now recognise what a smart decision it was to keep the pricing low, and actually Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format."

He then went on to add: "People have moved through from DVDs to digital downloads and digital streaming, so we offer full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly, no download, no delay. So, who needs Blu-ray?"

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Lots of wishful thinking in that paragraph. Blu-ray is here to stay and for quite some time I might add. It's just not feasible to think that everyone will be downloading movies and games within this next five years. Even when digital downloads become the norm Blu-ray will still be filling in the gaps for those who either can't afford the technology to go download exclusive or simply won't make that transition until it basically becomes their only option. I guarantee that Microsoft's next game console will have some form of tangible media. If they're smart, it'll have Blu-ray. Sony's next console will too. We're probably as a society looking at another good ten years before we will start to see heavy emphasis on transitioning to download only media. Sorry Microsoft.

+3 # master Jerry Castrated — jerry castrated 2010-09-23 00:57

Microsoft is full of dog poo. Why lose all that money on HD DVD agianst Blu Ray to just say, "oh, blu ray's a phase.".

Well, streaming video is not blu ray quality... NOR IS THE SOUND THE SAME...

Buy more game studios to get first downloads, HAND OUT FREE XBOXs, then maybe we'll talk

+11 # who need a physical copy — AssassinXCV 2010-09-23 01:02

who needs a physical copy, when they can stream it but then have down times when the servers are getting maintainance on Friday nights from 7pm to 1am... yay friday movie night... wait, no, we cant awww :(

-6 # nice — fearlubu 2010-09-23 01:16

try at being moderately funny

+3 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — ippaioppai 2010-09-23 01:10

You gotta be kidding me. Space is a HUGE issue to me. Most 360 games have truly awful (at least to my eyes) quality in pre-rendered cutscenes. You know why? Because the space is limited and to fit it on a dvd they are forced to use some heavy compression, and that makes it look bad. Lowering resolution, macroblocking and such. Though some games do not have as compressed video and it looks fine, but that's the minority. Blu-ray does not have this problem.

+7 # ... — hush404 2010-09-23 01:14

I dunno.. you're looking at the company who had the most to loose when Blu-ray won out and stood up as the format of choice.

A)It's connected with Sony and their PS3.. the rival of Microsoft's system.

B) Microsoft pushed and bullied their own software solutions (codecs and formats within the disc makeup) to toshiba for their HD-dvd specs after failing to get the tech used in blu-rays.

In the end Microsoft lost any kind of connection to a future media format... and thus no money. It surprised me not that they come out saying "Pfft blu-ray is nothing".

+3 # meh — fearlubu 2010-09-23 01:17

theyre just talking ish again.....i find it funny because their AWESOME HDDVD totally failed

-5 # RE: meh — ChaosZero112 2010-09-23 01:29

To be fair, Microsoft never truly pushed HDDVD. It was more of a "it's there, so we'll use it" thing.

+7 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Chris 2010-09-23 01:45

full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly, no download, no delay. So, who needs Blu-ray?

We do... not everybody has an internet connection that is capable of streaming 1080p video without having it buffer for quite some time. Every format gets replaced by a better one, thats why we don't have VHS tapes or Record players anymore. Blu-ray is the here and now for HD content, whether or not it will be here 5 years down the road is impossible to tell.

+2 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — yomoms 2010-09-23 02:44

amen!

+1 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Alex Atkin UK 2010-09-24 19:23

I would say very few people do, seeing as I have seen Blu-ray movies playing at 35-40Mbit.

So even if you have a 50Mbit connection, you will have problems if anyone else is using that connection at the same time plus how much is your ISP going to charge you for the bandwidth? Its no good if watching a movie uses so much bandwidth you can only watch one a month.

Oh and bottom line, Xbox Live doesn't even come close to those bandwidths or the picture/sound quality of Blu-ray.

Online streaming will always cut corners compared to "we have X amount of space to use and it doesn't matter if we fill it" as online the lower the bitrate, the less it costs you.

Blu-ray it makes no difference if you use 5GB or 25GB of space.

-1 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — ChaosZero112 2010-09-25 03:23

Yay for the welfare kids!

+2 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — psychotits 2010-09-23 02:08

Haha oh, Microsoft. You're just adorable.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — joostin 2010-09-23 02:19

Ummm...digital downloads only make up about 18% of the media rental/purchasing market share. So that means the other 82% is on digital media. Bluray has a faster adoption rate than DVD did...so I am sort of lost at where he is getting his info from. M$'s magic fortune telling octopus, they tried to clone the World Cup one, but obviously got it wrong.

+4 # lol — animebuster 2010-09-23 02:32

What the fuck is he saying... I totally agree with you pawn535 not all countrys have unlimited internet caps... New Zealand sure doesnt unless you want to pay loads of money. The amount of internet it would take to stream 1080p videos makes the whole idea stupid.

-3 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Lightsource 2010-09-23 02:32

When you consider that most blu-rays don't even fill up half the disk, it makes me wonder why it was necessary too. I've got nothing against blu-ray as a format, but I do think that it came too early, and as this man suggests, will likely be phased-out much, much earlier than anyone expects.

The low rate of HD adoption amongst the general population, that is to say, non-gamers, speaks strongly to this. People just don't care about HD, because while we can claim that the difference exists, that difference is probably going to be overtaken by something bigger and better in...oh...let's say five years.

And the joke of it all is, it'll probably be the same method Sony used to push blu-ray. It'll be introduced as the only format compatible with the new version of a popular media device.

Now if you're a PS3 owner, I can understand the desire to make the most of your purchase, but me personally, I'm not hedging my bets on blu-ray yet. When we see mass market adoption, then maybe, but that's at least 3 years away.

Also, like pawn535 said, it probably won't be direct download either. There are still huge internet "dead zones" in North America. Hell, we still can't get good internet to most rural areas, and ISPs who do, either through cable or DSL, just love capping your bandwidth. The only other option are those horse-shit mobile internet sticks provided by cell phone companies.

Bottom line? I think the market is far too segmented to make bold claims of domination of any format. Sure blu-ray beat out HD-DVD as the dominant HD format, but if HD users are still a minority, then it's not really a win is it?

Oh yeah, where's all the HD TV stations we should have had by now? I like movies and all, but only having, on average, 10 to 20 HD stations, most of which are sports, does not provide a lot of variety.

+2 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — kakashihatake18 2010-09-23 09:37

Quoting Lightsource:

When you consider that most blu-rays don't even fill up half the disk, it makes me wonder why it was necessary too. I've got nothing against blu-ray as a format, but I do think that it came too early, and as this man suggests, will likely be phased-out much, much earlier than anyone expects.

The low rate of HD adoption amongst the general population, that is to say, non-gamers, speaks strongly to this. People just don't care about HD, because while we can claim that the difference exists, that difference is probably going to be overtaken by something bigger and better in...oh...let's say five years.

And the joke of it all is, it'll probably be the same method Sony used to push blu-ray. It'll be introduced as the only format compatible with the new version of a popular media device.

Now if you're a PS3 owner, I can understand the desire to make the most of your purchase, but me personally, I'm not hedging my bets on blu-ray yet. When we see mass market adoption, then maybe, but that's at least 3 years away.

Also, like pawn535 said, it probably won't be direct download either. There are still huge internet "dead zones" in North America. Hell, we still can't get good internet to most rural areas, and ISPs who do, either through cable or DSL, just love capping your bandwidth. The only other option are those horse-shit mobile internet sticks provided by cell phone companies.

Bottom line? I think the market is far too segmented to make bold claims of domination of any format. Sure blu-ray beat out HD-DVD as the dominant HD format, but if HD users are still a minority, then it's not really a win is it?

Oh yeah, where's all the HD TV stations we should have had by now? I like movies and all, but only having, on average, 10 to 20 HD stations, most of which are sports, does not provide a lot of variety.

okay i cant agree with that the only reason its not super selling is cuz of the pricing but if u notice the price is going down 1080P tvs are becoming cheaper and now it even have 3d which is catching on. as far as gaming is concerned ps3 is gettin exclusive content in some mulitplatform games such as red dead redemption. for gaming its way better because you can make the textures more fine tuned. hence why uncharted 2 and killzone 2 look amazing. the best example of this is Final fantasy 13 xbox version got nerffedddd beacuse DVD9 is out of date

# RE: RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Lightsource 2010-09-23 18:09

I think you might be missing the point I was trying to make.

Here you're explaining why HD and blu-ray is so much better for gaming, that's true. You used FFXIII as an example of why the space is needed (you could have used MGS4 as well), and that's true too.

The Red Dead Redemption example you used is terrible. One extra costume and one extra gang hideout is not something to gloat about. Also, any DLC is exclusionary to these examples as they only take up HDD space and not disk space.

But here's the rub, for roughly 90% of games, blu-ray is useless. Why? Because roughly 70% of games are multi-platform, and most developers can't commit the time and resources to develop 15GB or more of code and assets. Budgets are high enough as is.

That and if anyone actually wants to do the research, they'll find out that blu-ray is as slow as snail shit compared to DVD and HD-DVD. You know that loading bar that you have to wait for at the start of a lot of PS3 games, or whenever you load up a blu-ray movie? That's the system or player caching enough information so that the rest of the movie or game can stream uninhibited (in the case of games, -mostly- uninhibited).

Blu-ray is not God's gift to gaming like some people would make it out to be. The number of games that truly make good use of it can be counted on one hand, maybe two. Really, the only benefit to blu-ray is storage capacity, and for now, that works, but like I said, most games don't even need that much space, and even some of the ones that do aren't that good to begin with.

However, if we ever get to the point where internet is as fast and as widely available as services like On-Live would like it to be, that's when blu-ray (or in the case that it gets replaced by something else first, whatever that happens to be) get's phased-out in favour of direct download.

+6 # Stupid M$ — SgtMoo 2010-09-23 02:35

Sure Microsoft, those of us living in Australia with crappy internet that can barely stream 480p are all for the idea of getting rid of Blu-Ray, we're fine with waiting more than a day to download a 1080p movie, or to download a high definition game. Having a nice neat shelf of Blu-Ray disks is so inconvenient for us /sarcasm

# RE: Stupid M$ — Sak 2010-09-23 12:20

Quoting SgtMoo:

Sure Microsoft, those of us living in Australia with crappy internet that can barely stream 480p are all for the idea of getting rid of Blu-Ray, we're fine with waiting more than a day to download a 1080p movie, or to download a high definition game. Having a nice neat shelf of Blu-Ray disks is so inconvenient for us /sarcasm

It's funny enough that you were sarcastic, but actually mention that you were being sarcastic is just downright hilarious

# RE: RE: Stupid M$ — gslance 2010-09-24 05:29

Rough day, huh, Sak? /sarcasm Oh that was sarcasm by the way. /truth

+5 # Intriguing — Efe 2010-09-23 03:44

Intriguing, the gloves comes off, but too bad the fight was already over.

+3 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — wat 2010-09-23 03:59

"we offer full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly, no download, no delay. So, who needs Blu-ray?"

Hahaha, yeah that will work just fine. It takes hours to get a 720p video to the point that I can watch it straight through with no buffering, and I'm on a cable connection. Who needs Blu-ray? Just those of us who are realistic, and not bitter because we joined the losing side.

-2 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Makes Sense 2010-09-23 04:15

BluRay doesn't actually make a whole load of sense for the mid-long term. It's too big! (in physical size)

Mobility and versatility will be key. The future is either USB 3.0 keys or SDXC, both of which are faster, more compact and have much larger capacities.

+2 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Sak 2010-09-23 12:22

Quoting Makes Sense:

BluRay doesn't actually make a whole load of sense for the mid-long term. It's too big! (in physical size)

Mobility and versatility will be key. The future is either USB 3.0 keys or SDXC, both of which are faster, more compact and have much larger capacities.

I think my vacuum cleaner sucked up my copy of Avatar

+2 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Sembazuru 2010-09-23 13:07

Quoting Makes Sense:

BluRay doesn't actually make a whole load of sense for the mid-long term. It's too big! (in physical size)

Mobility and versatility will be key. The future is either USB 3.0 keys or SDXC, both of which are faster, more compact and have much larger capacities.

Actually, for a retailer and the OEM packager the larger size does make sense. It's harder to covertly steal (either shop lift at the store or from the manufacturing/packaging line) 10 loose discs than is it to covertly steal 10 loose SD cards. Plus, have you seen the amount of extra packaging put on SD cards at the retail level to try to control people slipping them into pockets and walking out w/o paying? DVD/BluRay discs just have that cover that comes off at the register.

Now, on the other hand, I would no way advocate moving BlueRay back to VideoDisc sized discs... That's just too big.

+2 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — senz 2010-09-23 04:54

Full HD 1080p streaming? not every country has fast enough internet and a big download quota to stream, Blu-ray format will eventually phase out DVDs when BD-R and BD Burners get cheaper and cheaper.

+3 # What? — Xbox 360 owner 2010-09-23 04:57

" so we offer full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly, no download, no delay. So, who needs Blu-ray?"" yeah right....so you want us to continually pay for something everytime we want to watch it OR you want us continue paying your xbox live fee OR is this a conspiracy with ISPs?

+2 # BadBlood — Paris 2010-09-23 05:13

Maybe their a lil salty about their failed HD-DvD add-on, I wonder if their gonna use the dvd9 for their next generation of consoles if so i doubt they would look anything close to the future possible PS consoles due to the fact that they can make a 120GB blu-ray disc plz dont flame me look it up..

+1 # RE: BadBlood — Uplink 2010-09-23 18:14

Quoting Paris:

Maybe their a lil salty about their failed HD-DvD add-on, I wonder if their gonna use the dvd9 for their next generation of consoles if so i doubt they would look anything close to the future possible PS consoles due to the fact that they can make a 120GB blu-ray disc plz dont flame me look it up..

120g is Small but reasonable retail. There are already 6 layer BRs that hold 150gb and currently working on 250gb on one disk. I think blu-ray is here for a long while.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — lalilulelo 2010-09-23 06:32

hahahahaa he sounds like a loser.. oh yeah!!! (perhaps they can't implement blu-ray with their system?? thus he said that..? lol)

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-09-23 06:37

Right now I have 16Mbps internet and a lot of days the net gets bogged down. Funny because especially on Tuesdays, when I am trying to download from the PSN, my internet will come to a crawling 1Mbps. That sucks!

-4 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Herfderf 2010-09-23 07:08

Bunch of PS3 fanboys up in this piece.

Regardless, its a valid point. Even without the 'phat pipe' as it were to support uncompressed 1080p streaming, there are plenty of new and brilliant ways to compress and parcel data through smaller bandwidth channels to meet with the same end result.

BD tech has been around almost 8 years now and its still terribly expensive. Its outrunning DVDs inception to cheap ratio by a good double standard right now. Digital or otherwise will probably outpace the slow growth and development of BD tech. Simple fact.

+2 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Uplink 2010-09-23 18:18

Quoting Herfderf:

Bunch of PS3 fanboys up in this piece.

Regardless, its a valid point. Even without the 'phat pipe' as it were to support uncompressed 1080p streaming, there are plenty of new and brilliant ways to compress and parcel data through smaller bandwidth channels to meet with the same end result.

BD tech has been around almost 8 years now and its still terribly expensive. Its outrunning DVDs inception to cheap ratio by a good double standard right now. Digital or otherwise will probably outpace the slow growth and development of BD tech. Simple fact.

You CANNOT Stream BR quality media over current connects that 90% of American Broadband owner have. BR streaming media is 30-50mbps from the disk. You would need an OC-9 pipe to you living room to come close to achieving this.

+1 # RE: RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-09-24 09:19

Quoting Uplink:

Quoting Herfderf:
Bunch of PS3 fanboys up in this piece.

Regardless, its a valid point. Even without the 'phat pipe' as it were to support uncompressed 1080p streaming, there are plenty of new and brilliant ways to compress and parcel data through smaller bandwidth channels to meet with the same end result.

BD tech has been around almost 8 years now and its still terribly expensive. Its outrunning DVDs inception to cheap ratio by a good double standard right now. Digital or otherwise will probably outpace the slow growth and development of BD tech. Simple fact.

You CANNOT Stream BR quality media over current connects that 90% of American Broadband owner have. BR streaming media is 30-50mbps from the disk. You would need an OC-9 pipe to you living room to come close to achieving this.

You are right. Blu-ray is a higher quality than downloads. Even with Blu-ray you get all the extras. Why would people want to have a temporary copy when they can purchase a hard copy?

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — TirsoJRP 2010-09-23 07:37

Yeah Right!!!

Reasons why M$ won't use blueray:

1 - Consoles are doomed since launch day.
They can't add major features like changing the game distribution format.

2 - Have you ever heard anyone at M$ saying "We were wrong" ?

3 - Everyone will mock on them if they make such move.

Some people may claim that most ps3 games fit on a DVD... Well, developers won't waste time creating stuff that only works on half for half of your clients.

+1 # Too true — UltimaXIX 2010-09-24 14:45

I still haven't heard Microsoft retract their statement on how computers will never need more than 2MB of RAM.

# RE: Too True — EugeneE 2010-10-05 17:41

Quoting UltimaXVII:

I still haven't heard Microsoft retract their statement on how computers will never need more than 2MB of RAM.

I remember a comment that Bill Gates made in the early 80's where he said "640k Ram is all you'll ever need"

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — leo9891 2010-09-23 07:41

IDK what M$ is talking about. Blu-Ray will not die out anytime soon, it will last as long or longer than DVDs did/when they fully die out.

Right now Blu-Ray discs have so much space that its not fully used, and the load times are not too long but some games have long load times like ModNation. If there were to be a new Disc Format, it would have more space that would be unused and load times would be even longer than they are now.

Sure technology will advance and there will be a new Disc Format but not anytime soon.

+1 # well — japrev 2010-09-23 08:22

lets see scratch resistant up to 25 gbs of memory lots of potential for gaming and preserving ability i think it blu ray is a great successor for dvd so i think microsoft is just doing damage control when its somerhing they have the money to convert to.

+4 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Doggone 2010-09-23 08:41

Ever think some people prefer physical media over digital?

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — PS3 Owner1 2010-09-23 08:42

"People have moved through from DVDs to digital downloads and digital streaming, so we offer full HD 1080p Blu-ray quality streaming instantly, no download, no delay. So, who needs Blu-ray?"

I hate to brake it to you Microsoft, but Blu-ray is awesome and everyone and companies have been using as DVD is past.

Blu-ray is scratch resistant and up to 50GB (for now, later it's possible to have space for more).

+1 # LOL — fortex 2010-09-23 09:01

Is he stupid or something? Streamed "HD" videos look like a extremely crappy 720p rip.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Walo 2010-09-23 09:10

I think blu-ray will outlast dvd.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — kakashihatake18 2010-09-23 09:42

blu ray is the present and future. seein as sony and panasonic own it microsoft will not have blu ray ever it wont happen. Microsoft has one category down with the 360 and there media (netflix). with out that they wouldnt be anything cuz the playstation store has way more movies then the XBL marketplace. but bluray for gaming.... uncharted 2 and killzone 2 need i say more? sure its not a pc quality but best on the console by far. i was dissapointed with halo reach's graphics (even though the game play is solid)

+1 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Uplink 2010-09-23 18:22

Microsoft could in theory use blu-ray but they would havta pay licensing. Netflix is on ps3 as well tho when they speak of streaming 1080p i believe they are talking about the vuze store.

# RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — muzzie263572 2010-09-23 11:08

Haha greddy M$ are just upset they aint got Blu - Ray so they say its worthless! Lol dumb fags. Because of M$'s igornce they have games like Final Fantasy XIII (which is far superior on PS3), Mass Effect 2 and Lost Odessy on multiple discs. LOL F*ck u Micro$hit! Blu - Ray is going to be used for games more often when next gen comes! Bluray will win!

+2 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — YourFaceIsCalling 2010-09-23 11:25

Apparently he doesn't know that a lot of countries/ISPs have bandwith caps that are quite pricey to raise. I don't want to waste my bandwith on downloading "Blu Ray Quality Streams" because I could buy the blu ray and not have to worry about how many gig am I downloading per month. Pure fantastic Faggotry.

# yes — playstation101 2010-09-23 11:45

"and actually Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format."

-ok but the bluray successor in another sony product, so xbox fanboys r stuck with old ass dvd drive...LOLOLOLOL

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — PS3 Owner1 2010-09-23 12:55

1080p FullHD uncompressed streaming? Yeah right, streaming will have to compress 1080p to the best quality because it'd be too much if it'd be uncompressed.

There's a big difference between compressed and uncompressed, Microsoft should know this better than anyone.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Nope.avi 2010-09-23 13:03

Uhh.. wat. Why in the hell would I download a 12gb movie when I can buy it for the same price? HERP DERP

+2 # RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — TallicDeth 2010-09-23 15:15

Actually, you can almost always find a Blu-ray movie cheaper at a brick & mortar store or online retailer than on the PSN.
For example, I recently picked up several older titles at Best Buy for less than $10 each, including Blazing Saddles, Planet Hulk, Logan's Run, and Invincible Iron Man (cartoon).

+2 # RE: RE: RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — PS3 Owner1 2010-09-23 17:03

Amazon prices vs PlayStation Store = Amazon wins.

You can't beat Amazon prices.

I've never bought anything from PSS and will never neither.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Fish 2010-09-23 13:18

How does one watch a stream something without downloading that stream.

They be misleading

+2 # Renting yes, owning no — jaydee321 2010-09-23 14:49

I think streaming and download are the next big thing for movie rentals, as they shift away from physical media, but when somebody is purchasing something to keep I think physical media is the way to go still.

+3 # RE: Renting yes, owning no — PS3 Owner1 2010-09-23 17:05

If you go to private trackers you'll see loads of people saying thanks for the release, but in reality they would say no if they had to buy the digital version.

They'd get hard-copy instead.

With a hard-copy you got proof of the item you own, digital.. digital, meh, no comment.

# RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — 8675309 2010-09-23 15:41

i think it will be fine to use bd for movies & tv shows but for general software & games i dont see the point since dl dvd's cost much less

# for now — bbnoz 2010-09-23 18:22

PS3/360 Games still cost the same shit even though one is BD and other DVD9 you can now get burners for for $199 who the F#*K uses DISC to burn software get a USB stick ISO and poweriso or deamon tools and your good.....

# RE: for now — gslance 2010-09-24 05:37

You're the kind of people who destroy our right to have Custom Firmwares.

-2 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Mister CommonSense 2010-09-23 15:53

I have to agree with Stephen McGill completley. Blur-Ray is just a phase. It will be passed by. It is just a awful format and is something that is holding PS3 and SONY back.

Which would I rather, 1 blur-ray disc for a game on PS3 or 2 disc dvd version like Final Fantasy? Hmmm no contest. Just imagine all the extra content that was on Final Fantasy XBOX 360 version. Must of been loads as they couldn't fit it all on 1 dvd, they had to use 2!! PS3 gets a watered down Blur-Ray version.

Well Done Microsoft with sticking to DVD, Well Done Indeed!!

+2 # re: clueless person is clueless — icanhasname? 2010-09-23 21:28

Your absolutely right Mr commonsense..

Your clearly superior knowledge of technology has it all sorted for you. two DVDs (which weren't even filled) with a combined maximum storage capacity of 19GB is by far better than a Single Layer blu-ray disc (25GB). Just think of all the uncompressed, high-resolution cinematics and high-quality audio you could use...

Hey, but the possibilities dont stop there. Lets watch a movie! Ok, so I have my Bluray disc from the store.. You have...? Oh yeah, your broadband and 360 marketplace. Cool, lets see how long it takes for you to get a 1080p movie! *throws bluray disc into his ps3 and starts watching it, looks to his side to see you waiting for the movie to buffer every 30 seconds*...

Yeah..360 is Clearly superior.

# RE: re: clueless person is clueless — gslance 2010-09-24 05:38

Heh, heh. He said Blur Ray. Obvious troll is obvious.

# RE: re: clueless person is clueless — Mister CommonSense 2010-09-24 05:55

"Every 30 seconds"

How slow is your connection? Enjoy your Blur-Ray.. is probably Hannah Montana anyway.

Well Done Microsoft, Well Done Indeed!!

+1 # LOL — David G 2010-09-23 18:23

From the guys who made an xbox 360 HD-DVD player, saying it was "a revolution", and then they changed the firmware of the xbox 360 saying, again, that it's a video games complete revolution from the ground... yeahhhhh microsoft, yeah...

+1 # LOL — Sack Boy 2010-09-23 19:47

year 2015
PS4 is released with a next gen format
Xbox 720 released with blu-ray
microsoft: fuck not again

# RE: LOL — PS3 Owner1 2010-09-24 05:44

What's up with the name Xbox 720?

If it's 1280x720 that sucks, it's only HD Ready, 1080p is the way to go.

+1 # Lolol — icanhasname? 2010-09-23 21:20

Seriously M$, it took you That long to think of a comeback regarding Bluray? Sad.

Yeah maybe consider admitting your actually wrong. By all means rush out onto the market with a (most likely, as much as i like them) near-obsolete disc format that will probably be gone in those 5 years with Bluray still standing tall, and by all means attempt to create a competing disc format (Hell, do it again guys if your so smart; we would LOVE to see you fail twice). By all means keep everyone paying for online play, and release a 'slim' console that isn't all that different. (last one was a fanboy remark yeah.. lol and i know Sony isn't any better than they are at this point. Its dissapointing how little corporations Actually care. moving on.)

If we let M$'s vision of the future (from a technological standpoint) become reality something tells me we wouldn't like it too much.

# Sexy — Lu 2010-09-24 01:23

i love how sexy QJ made the Bluray disc look before u click on the article

# RE: Sexy — Mister CommonSense 2010-09-24 09:11

I love how sexy Microsoft made the XBOX 360. So sexy and beautiful. My sexy XBOX

+1 # there blue , there here to stay — Mr t 2010-09-24 09:26

MICROSOFT just upset there HD disk lost in the battle. of course BD going stay ! Streaming video is painfull enough if you on Bt and what if you don't have access to internet. and games on blue are better def and they are longer.

there blue , there here to stay

-1 # i kind of agree with m.s. — Plaztek98 2010-09-24 11:47

i mean fu-ck paying 20$ for a disc , when i can get same quality for 5$
i did the whole blu-ray thing 2 times with ps3
,that was when it was first being talked about
been yrs since
havent since

-1 # RE: i kind of agree with m.s. — Mister CommonSense 2010-09-24 12:17

Correct, glad to see some people on here have sense. I had nearly given up all hope. Well said Plaztek98, Well said indeed!!

+1 # RE: RE: i kind of agree with m.s. — Uplink 2010-09-25 06:22

Quoting Mister CommonSense:

Correct, glad to see some people on here have sense. I had nearly given up all hope. Well said Plaztek98, Well said indeed!!

Either your seriously damaged in the head or you be trollin.

Fact : You cannot get Blu-ray quality from the internet.

Fact: all online rental services heavily compress all data be it a dvd or hd.

Fact: All "HD" streaming services cannot reach 30mbps stream.

Fiction : Xbox live is worth the money.

Fiction : Digital Download is a viable means for future media.

# re: Blueray here to stay` — luke - london 2010-09-25 04:08

yep i agree, blueray so much bettter

batman asylum had a longer leave then the xbox and better graphics and shit loads of updates for more leves

# Sony spy ! — Me boom 2010-09-25 04:11

inside sony ,ramos has it you be able to install games on to your ps3!. in the pack you

get a very long and unique bar code number which can only be use ones. and using the eyecamera you scan it ( like phones apps ) and then BANG ! games install ! yay

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — muppy2k 2010-09-26 01:35

I cant trade in a digital download. So blue ray wins every time... Anyone wanna buy my BetaMax player?

+1 # internet — classified 2010-09-26 16:40

not everybody as super fast internet to watch 1080p videos.

# phisical media is needed — colla 2010-09-26 23:03

1: streaming and downloads wont work because I cant take my download to my pips house and watch it with them. I would have to carry my whole desktop or laptop and connect the cables in the back of the tv.
2: bluray is not working because its too expensive, I would feel like an idiot if I paid $30 for a movie, if I see someone buying a bluray for $30 i think, "you are an idiot," and I feel sad for the schmuck, "he must be a retard".

The thing is that movie studios pay almost nothing to make each bluray disc.
its probably like a dollar or two, but then they try to make a 3000% profit.
$1=100%
$30=3000%
do people not know how to count?
and not to mention you could download the movie off the internet for free.

# Speed — mrcory 2010-09-27 11:06

Good thing they realized we all have 30mbps download speeds. I mean people with DSL could have to wait a few hours to stream.

Oh wait, I have DSL... BD will do better, at least with the video industry, than HD-DVD.

Then again I could be wrong. Well, I am gonna go play my Virtual Boy, 3d is awesome. XD

P.S. Gotta love stupid publicity announcements.

+1 # RE: Microsoft: Blu-ray is going to be passed by as a format — Stealth! 2010-09-27 14:26

What do you think MS going to say? They're not going to support blu-ray if it's linked with Sony their MAIN competitor.

Eventually they're going to use blu-ray next generation knowing it's a must for gaming now and everyone will call them hypocrites..even though we know they are anyway.

# oh god — trauts 2010-09-28 13:40

I could not believe it but this horrid article made it into a newspaper in Sydney Australia... basically picked up the news paper and started reading then saw this......

# lol — Zhipp 2010-09-30 16:52

Of course Blu-ray will be passed by as a format... but not by digital downloads. lol
In 3-5 years we'll probably have "green-ray", or whatever they're gonna call it. heh

# blu ray will be passed by.. — EugeneE 2010-10-05 17:53

I don't believe this comment by Microsoft.

They are just mad because HD-DVD failed.

Blu-ray will be around for a long time. Heck, look at DVD's, the formats been around for almost 13 years.

HDTV's are getting cheaper. You can buy a 720P TV at Best Buy for around $300 and a 1080P for a little bit more.

Digital downloads which Microsoft is trying to tout are not feasible with the current bandwidth. Many ISP's have a cap on how much we can download and Blu-Ray quality movies have a lot of bandwidth.

For example, I bought 28 Days Later last week on Blu-ray at Best Buy. The movie has a video bandwidth of 36 MBPS, there's no way to stream that currently.

Blu-ray is popular and it's catching on. My local Wal-Mart used to only have 1 shelve full of Blu-ray movies, now it has 4 shelves. And my local Best Buy has almost 15 shelves full of Blu-ray movies.

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