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Islamic group launches own ratings system - Page 2 |
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"The approach of Islam is based on Human being innateness "Al Fitra", and the most important innate trends are truth, virtue, benevolence, excellence tendency, innovation and creativity," said Dr. Behrouz Minaei of Iran's National Foundation of Computer Games at the Dubai World Game Expo yesterday. "That's why we made sure that ESRA team are proficient in these areas; Religion, Psychopathology, Educational psychology, Social psychology, Sociology of the family, Family Sociology, Emotional Psychology, Family therapy and Educational technology."
Not much is known about the ESRA at the moment, being new and all. It's possible that they would operate mainly online, at least at first, to give parents an accessible avenue to refer to their game ratings. It might even be possible for them to add their ratings on game boxes in the future, but they haven't detailed their exact plans just yet.
[via Kotaku]
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Take GTA4, possibly the most un-Islamic game out there as an example; how'd this be classified? By suggesting it's an 18, this rating commision would be implying that it's perfectly okay in Islam to play GTA4 if you're of that age, even though it goes against its moral teachings.
Or maybe it'll just place games on a scale of "acceptableness"?
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Based on the amount of violence, swearing and everything else contained within. I would believe that the ESRA would hand GTA4 a banned/immoral rating. As such they would advise everyone to avoid the game or disallow it in their home, and possibly even tell people to rethink their friendship with someone if they enjoy the game.
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No. Just no.
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They're both based from Abrahamic teachings. And the underlying message is the same. So, some views (based on the scriptures) are the same.
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Why they are so extremist and have no humility like Jews and Christians.
I figure its probably because they are the youngest of the 3.
A few hundred/thousand years down the line they'll grow into their pants and gain a more mature perspective.
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They do.
I've met some very nice and humble Muslim people.
But on the average it seems to be a smaller percentage who take things in stride and a higher percentage who go batshit about petty stuff then their comparable equivalents.
(Although dont disregard your local media's political manipulations either.)
Christians and Jews (and any lifestyle belief system) also have the same knack for thinking they're better then everyone else.
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It's the retards that seem to stand out and give the rest of their people the bad image that they now have. Islam teaches everyone to be friendly and peaceful, I have lots of muslim friends, and they don't believe in the crazy punishments you hear of in public.
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Allow me to add this quote as it shows that Muslims believe in the second coming of Jesus too:
"Jesus son of Mary shall descend"..."So, recognize him when you see him. He is a man of medium height, of ruddy and fair complexion; he will be dressed in two yellow garments; the hair of his head will appear as though water was going to trickle down from it, whereas it will not be wet."... "...He will slay the Antichrist and put an end to war..."
By Prophet Mohammed
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I feel a bit neutral on the subject. I'm not really sure how they would rate games etc. I think the reason that they are really implementing this is because a lot of parents fail to read the actual rating and don't know what it means. This also gives Muslims an idea about what the game has to offer and if its permissible.
Basically its another opinion on the game to help decide if you want to buy the game or not.
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To anyone talking about muslims not being allowed music... what a load of bull. Music is legal in all Islamic countries, even the ones following Sharia law; muslims who don't allow music are the Islamic equivilent of puritanical Christians.
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Except Iran, where being a singer can get you arrested. Or a dancer, for that matter.
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It's just ESRB under a different name.
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YES,,you R correct...
ESRA,,,now how close to being another name is that,lol...so original wouldn't you say.
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They can choose to not sell things in Muslim owned shops.
They can choose to not purchase things based on those ratings.
The only problem I see is pushing the boundaries of suing an establishment in a non muslim nation for selling an unapproved item to a muslim youth.
Because Allah knows that when you give them an inch they want a fuckin yard next.
(I'm joking, but I'm Serious.)
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Next thing you know Christians, Jews, etc will do the same just to have their own rules about games.
Ridiculously stupid.
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"Islamics Only" - IO
"Jews Only" - JO
"Palestinians Only" - PO
The list can go on, lol.
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Example: A review of "Get him to the Greek" oddly enough the quote/unquote positive portion of the review says that the movie was awful and they should have walked out. While a negative was considerably less kind.
http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2010/gethimtothegreek2010.html
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Before, a movie with some sexual scenes would be an automatic 18. Now, they manage to slip it in to 12 rated movies.
Games have generally maintained a decent rating system, however.
As GS said, age is not the only factor to take in to consideration.
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eg. alcohol, violence, drug abuse, sexual references or even sacrilegious etc..
Besides. They said the ratings will be for parents to know whether games will be appropriate for kids.
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(aaaaaaaaand.... Begin awkwardness...)
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Exploding game boxes? ;)
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Just let people decide wtf they want and not a GROUP. Islam is not a cruel religion with unseen boundaries. Its those few GROUPS.
ESRB is a great rating system. If you wanna ban a game in your country/locale. Then do it. Because no matter what, a hardcore gamer will get that game by any means.
And to those sad racist with no knowledge of anything. Grow up and learn.
Islam is not a new religion. It is the biggest and most powerful religion.
@Glenn, we do believe in the 2nd coming of Hazrat EESA (JESUS)
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If shows chicks on bikini being the boss, Or women with initiative, independent, hardworking...like The Sims, probably is a bad example for Girls under the the Burka, so a big NO.
Scientific and skeptic values, critical thinking over Belief, mention of evolution, Big bang, ..extremely forbidden!!!! The Red necks would probably want the same rating here..
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Just so you know muslims totally believe in BIG BANG, Other reigions and Scientific and other values.
But for the Evolution theory that is complete bullshit if you are referring the C.Darwin Theory.
But we are not here to talk about this are we ?
Even i am saying that there should be no more rating systems. If anyone wants to play something then just see the rating, read about the game on internet and if you are allowed to or want to play the game then fukin play it.
AFTERALL, they are only GAMES not REALITY.
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And we didn't know that until we found them out on our own. Funny how they didn't know about them before science found them. And even then, you have to do some heavy interpretation of fucking POETRY to get anything like the real science.
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The Qur'an is a book of signs, not a book of science. Though there are many scientific facts, if everything was written in depth as you want it to be, then the amount of ink required to write it would be more than double the amount of water in the sea. And no one's going to read that, are they?
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There are usually many more things than just religion at the root of most wars.
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In modern times at least.
More to do with money, resources and control than religion.
When religion is brought into the equation, 9 times out of ten its to abuse the faith and fervor.
Religion by itself isn't the problem more than stupidity.
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I don't buy into this "Illuminato invented Jesus" bullshit.
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and lately a lot people look at my cousin in a hateful way (she is veiled,wears hijjab i mean)
people shouldnt discriminate like that you know
sorry about the rant but it really hurts when people make assumptions about you based on race or religion
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On the issue of feeling that people are discriminating by looking at your cousin hatefully because she's veiled though: You cite all Western World locations. Understand that it is not in Western culture to hide ourselves (visually) from others- all of the Euro- and Euro-derived cultures depend heavily on communicating through facial expressions. To remove that avenue of communication is unsettling and goes against our culturally and socially ingrained sensibilities.
Further, the West is now coming into conflict with various Muslim groups because some are insisting that a veil be able to be worn in images for one of our most important and ubiquitous pieces of ID in these countries- the driver's license; a ludicrous request, since it clearly and without debate would prevent visual identification. Because we are trying to be 'tolerant' we are considering allowing a loophole in something which is without question for all others, which would be discrimination.
I am a Euro living in India. I am uncomfortable when I go into conservative Muslim areas because I cannot see the faces of those around me, but I accept and understand that I am in a different culture that violates my sense of norm. In the same way I implore you to accept and understand that your cousin is participating in a different culture when you are in the West, and that she will thus be viewed from a culturally relative viewpoint.
I also Strongly ask you to recognize that if you associate with a group, you will be viewed in terms of that group by those who do not know you more personally. I don't mean that you shouldn't attempt to educate, but do not feel indignant when your education falls on the deaf ears of the faceless masses. You are online after all.
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Burqa or Niqāb: which cover all face or somtimes keep opening for eyes.
Hijab: only covers the head, hair and neck, but still showing the face
In Islam covering the face isn't mandatory at all. as it's not mentioned in Qur'an except for special cases.
So only the Hijab is required. But women covers their faces because it become a custom and tradition at some point in history.
What I think is that using Burqa or Niqāb when going into a different culture is totally wrong.
But I don't see Hijab preventing communicating through facial expressions, it might affect identification minorly but still remain applicable.
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Religion is the cause of wars.
I know about the Muslims, Jews, Christians and Hindus that all these religions teach 1 basic thing that is PEACE.
Now, what other religion were you talking about ?
All, Those govt. are doing is USE and MANIPULATE RELIGIONS. Not 1 but all of them. But in different ways.
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Lets see now in Genesis Cain kills Able and God sets him free and provides protection from retribution. Now if that doesn't smack of that it is ok to kill, you must truly be delusional not to see.
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PLEASE, TAKE TIME TO READ EVERYTHING FOR YOURSELF UNDERSTAND THE MEANING AND THEN SPEAK FOR IT.
NON OF THEM RELIGION TELL PEOPLE TO CONVERT OR DIE. I CAN SAY THIS FOR ISLAM.
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However, Muslims and Christians have lived side by side in harmony for many years in the middle east, too.
You often hear about the extremes of one thing, and end up attributing it to the religion as a whole.
Regarding the evolving as fast comment, Islam is the most modern religion.
For example, an adult Muslim woman can own, dispose of, or disown any of her property without consulting any one, irrespective whether she is married or she is single.
In 1870, it was the first time in England, that the West recognized the rights of the married woman, where she was allowed to own or dispose any of her property without consultation.
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Lol i never see ESRB rating.
So i would never see ESRA rating
there is no point. i know it is just a game, even many RPG has reference to 'GOD' and MYTH, but i know it is just a game..
Btw im a muslim
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1. You forced to say you believe out of fear for your safety or cultural bias.
2. You just want a socially acceptable club to join to socialise and just say you religious so you don't feel outcast.
3. You actually do believe what you saying about your religion, but these are a tiny percentage of people who say they religious and it's these people i worry about most because i do see them as delusional but some people will listen and that can be dangerous.
All religion was in the past was giving answers to people who find the world to difficult to understand and religions took advantage to take some power away from the actual world rulers, but the world has answers how things work now, so again you back to the majority of people being forced to believe.
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why wait til' now to act like human beings?!?
because i know damn well they approve of violence
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Damn Right, People don't educate themselves and talk anything they get from a FEEDER.
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"If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge."
[Al-Qur’an 9:6]
What's the most a military leader from today would do? Let the enemy go. Here, The Qur'an is saying that not only should let the enemy go, but escort them to a place of security.
“…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.”
Al- Quran 6:151
“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
Al- Quran 5:32
"Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression."
Al- Quran 5:2
"And do not let ill-will towards any folk incite you so that you swerve from dealing justly. Be just; that is nearest to heedfulness"
Al- Quran 5:8
God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed.
Al- Quran 16:90
“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.”
Al- Quran 2:256
“O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And God has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).”
Al- Quran 49:13
Again, if you want to judge a religion, base your judgements off the scriptures. Not what you see in the media.
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The problem with any religion isn't its core teaching.
It rather to the misguided followers by a fake religious icon/leaders controlled by politics agenda for wealth and power, so they change/shape the religion into what they want. Such people get brain washed earlier in age so they lose the ability to interrupt things in their own and become like parrot repeat things doesn't truly understand or question.
Islam doesn't approve terrorism based in what you stated.
And yet people fail to understand...even the most basic meaning like the word "Islam"
One of its root word is "salam" which actually mean "Peace" in Arabic language.
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If you don't how to interpret something, you're advised to seek advice from someone more knowledgeable. And that's not limited to religious knowledge. That's everything.
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I want to add things here to the discussion
- That Quran(the God words)never changed a single letter from what was 1400 years ago. it is exactly the same words nothing more nothing less
The number of words in the quran is still 77480, with total letters 327297
- Yes there are different interpretation of it, and it might get changed.
- And some politics forced things in religion for their own deed and other tried to dimness other things and write their own history version.
- Also cited saying form the prophet got edit in sometimes.
- And denominations formed, and into different schools and branches.
But the truth is still can be found out there if someone dig and interrupt by himself, or exactly as you said by just sticking to the basic ethics a religion represents.
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As Afrit has told you, The Qur'an is the only religious scripture that has never been altered. The first written Qur'an is still available in a museum in Saudi Arabia. There's no other arabic version available.
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Encouraged would be themes like evolution, the commonalities of humanity, and individual expression. Discouraged would be anything divisive such as race, religious teachings, wearing any kind of clothing that identifies one by one's faith, proselytizing, reading (or believing in) any kind of scriptures, or espousing moral authority based on some thousand-year-old novel.
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Some people arent f***ing prejudiced her.
im muslim btw.
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-a muslim/a gamer
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