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Features removed from NGP to keep price down

Posted Feb 15, 2011 at 2:51PM EST by Glenn M.

Listed in: PSP, PS Vita Tags: news, ngp, shuhei yoshida, Sony

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As it is, Sony's Next Generation Portable is already a powerful piece of hardware. It's so feature-dense, in fact, that one wonders how Sony will put a price tag on the device. According Sony's Shuhei Yoshida, the NGP could have had more functions packed into it, but they had to be dropped to keep the portable affordable.

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"I can't talk about a definitive price at this stage," Yoshida said. "But since the very beginning we had a target in mind. So, when considering various features, we always had our price range in mind."

This price remains elusive, but Sony has stated that they'll make the announcement when consumers would think it makes sense.

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I agree. I was fine with the ps3's price at the time. I considered it a matter of you get what you pay for and the 360 was a cheaper piece of equipment in price and quality (regardless of what you think of the quality of games, you can't ignore the 360's >50% console failure rate). (note: I'm not a Sony fanboy--I hate them now and will never buy another Sony product, but that doesn't change the fact that I don't think the ps3 price was a mistake at the time).

As for the NGP's (lame name) price, I have no idea what it's going to be, but I'm pretty darn sure it's going to cost more than the 3ds and it's going to have trouble moving units. Sony has lost much of the goodwill they had with their fanbase, so it's mostly going to be the die-hard fans, the ones who don't mind Sony's utter lack of regard for their customers, and the tech geeks who have to have the most hi-tech gadgets who buy it, and I don't think there's enough of those types to be successful with a handheld. I'm predicting it's going to be a flop unless the price is surprisingly low.

+4 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — PS360 Owner1 2011-02-15 16:26

Okay Sony you're already asking for it.

The hackers will hack it in no time when they get the NGP on their hands.

It'd be funny if Geohot would be the one to hack NGP too.

+6 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — Glenn M. 2011-02-15 16:46

well, at least i heard "affordable" and "NGP" in the same context. i just wish Sony has a similar definition of "affordable" as i do

+1 # Absolutely — Acteon 2011-02-15 17:07

If we thought the Go was expensive, I can't wait for this thing to land.

I'm eyeing up limbs I can sell to afford one.

-1 # good idea — tiggzthetigga 2011-02-15 21:21

hey thats a good idea ... im gonna start searching round the house for sum stuff to sell so i can do the same (buy one :L )

+1 # RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — HangmanSwingset 2011-02-15 21:51

Cheap for them to make, and the price of our left testicle is what that means.

# RE: RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — a20z07 2011-02-15 23:55

I'm probably gonna sell a thumb or two instead.

+2 # RE: RE: RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — skeetz 2011-02-16 01:13

DUDE WHY WOULD YOU SELL YOUR THUMBS YOU NEED THEM TO PLAY... NOW YOUR MIDDLE FINGERS ARE POINTLESS WHEN IT COMES TO GAMING, THATS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

+1 # Woah, woah, woah! — Zhipp 2011-02-20 15:50

No way, the middle finger is, like, the second most important finger when it comes to gaming.

# RE: Woah, woah, woah! — Snaku 2011-02-21 20:50

I use it more than my thumbs

-1 # :D — Lolp 2011-02-16 04:55

Then whats the use of the dual thumbsticks???

-1 # One massive set back for me... — Sage 2011-02-15 16:59

I like the NGP, but this thing won't fit in my pocket due to the dual sticks not being covered.

I will not be buying the NGP.

-7 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — hamed 2011-02-15 17:59

lol, I don't care about the price of NGP, as long as I can masturbate and watch porno on it without my grandma spotting me, it's all fine. Btw, to all the noobs who are poor and can't afford this piece of shit, go suck a cock.

+6 # ... — papajag 2011-02-15 19:13

Sadly the anal probe feature was taken out so go be gay somewhere else.

+2 # RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — a20z07 2011-02-15 23:56

Quoting hamed:

Btw, to all the noobs who are poor and can't afford this piece of shit, go suck a cock.

says the guy who needs a handheld device to masturbate, because he can't afford a computer.

+2 # RE: RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — a20z07 2011-02-15 23:57

that came out wrong

-1 # ... — SeRosiS 2011-02-16 01:06

More like, "Says the guy who needs to masturbate."

Also... Grandma?

# RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — 06333 2011-02-15 18:42

removing features... yeah i heard this f*g excuse with ps3 already. ill pass this crap.

+1 # RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — HangmanSwingset 2011-02-15 21:53

Hey, at least it hasn't been sold to you yet. But it's only the beginning for feature removal. Whether it be through software updates or hardware revisions.

# RE: RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — Snaku 2011-02-21 20:53

Heh. They're not even waiting til release to start removing features this time.

# RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — vizard00 2011-02-15 19:15

we need a powerful console not a afordable piece of shit , ps3 was sold 600$ and after many years they started to make money with it ,

make a crap cosnole and ull wellcome planet earth noobs

# lmao — dbzking19941818 2011-02-15 19:45

its console not cosnole and noobs my ass ps3 is a legend so stop hating and trolling trolls piece of shit? no the ngp is awesome so stop trolling

+2 # RE: lmao — a20z07 2011-02-15 23:58

spelling errors aside, he's trying to say that no matter how expensive the ps3 was, it was still powerful, which made it worth the money.

# ... — symbal 2011-02-15 19:44

Sony's already on the back foot with this thing simply because it's Sony running it. You just know they gonna f*ck something up with it so they can't afford to start stripping features off, i mean they might say they learned that more technology doesn't automatically mean more sales, but being Sony running it they need more technology, less cost and fire all the people that made all the major decisions the last 5 years.

+4 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — K 2011-02-15 19:48

So they can't sell the NGP for the same price as the PSP? The PSP was already considered to be overpriced at launch.... geez.... you really wonder if they really did learn their lessons from it?

+3 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — dailyqjnetreader 2011-02-15 19:55

As long as they haven't removed features that were already announced, I'm fine.

# RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — TheReaper 2011-02-15 20:53

really.. one of the big things i hope they dont remove is its gps capabilities.

+2 # RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — symbal 2011-02-15 21:09

That's probably true, one of the biggest problems with Psp for me is i have no reason to take it anywhere, it's too big to just keep in my pocket and there's f*ck all games being made for it, but at least with GPS you have more reason to have it with you, which means more reason to buy games and spend money on it. But being Sony they'll most likely remove it anyway simply because they always manage to do the wrong thing.

+3 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — liight 2011-02-15 21:04

They are NOT taking away features at this point, they were talking about features they had plans for but decided against because of cost. Everything we have seen it still will have including the analogs

# RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — HangmanSwingset 2011-02-15 21:56

Yeah... "at this point"

Give them time, then they'll realize that it shouldn't play PS1 games anymore since they could still end up selling that cute little CD player.

-1 # Nothing special? — Snowserpent 2011-02-15 21:19

Let me guess its now just a PSP cause Sony removed the Trophies and no touch screen sorry not buying SCEA You are so boring lately Oh yeah where is 4.00 for PSN God almightly your are such a slow poke!

# RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — truk 2011-02-15 22:33

"expect the worse and hope for the best" is usually good motto to live by, but come on guys, some of you are being straight bitches. you guys want all the crazy new features but don't want to shell out the cash for it. geez

# RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — Zerg 2011-03-02 20:50

Hell I would sell most of my stuff and ps2 to buy a ps3. But now the ngp has been announced and changed my mind to buy that instead! (I lost my psp a few weeks ago

) They could make two versions of the ngp:
All Features - Pricier
Less Features - Cheaper

and everyone is happy

-1 # Features removed from NGP to keep price down — urbz1988 2011-02-15 22:45

Im taking a guess but i think its either the the 3g touchpad or the montion sensor.T

+1 # stupid people cant read!!! — pspg0 2011-02-15 22:53

as someone said...the device is finished,they said they could of added more stuff to it but had to be removed due to manufacturing costs.

-1 # i think you guys misunderstood — jesse121 2011-02-16 01:29

all the features that have been mentioned, ARE included, features that they "removed" are features they never mentioned

# RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — affordable 2011-02-16 01:50

affordable to?

+2 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — nothingmann 2011-02-16 07:21

Why must people on this site be so confrontational and, frankly, stupid?
Its clear he means during the development stage. Although I'm not sure what else this thing could have had on it.
Either way... its not like he means that they read people's responses, got scared because people were moaning about the price and then lopped off 2 buttons and an analogue stick.

# RE: RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — symbal 2011-02-16 12:29

You gotta realise that no-one really trusts Sony anymore because of a trail of stupid decisions and just generally finding every possible way to piss people off.

+1 # another psp — rocklite 2011-02-16 10:11

how about the psp v4 they were promising after the go? wasnt it supposed to rival the ds xl? had a basically all the features of a go only square'er and bigger?

-1 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — playstation101 2011-02-16 12:58

LCD REPLACING OLED?????

-1 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — Ercxman 2011-02-16 23:27

they said they cant sell it for the price of the PSP would that include the PSP go ? cause that thing is till around 200 new I'm hoping for around $300 hopefully if more than that i'll just get a 3DS

-1 # RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — MaSx 2011-02-17 00:07

Well, whatever the case is NGP will be outdated by the time it is available to the general public, as nVidia already announced their Kal-El a Quad-Core Mobile Processor. Then you have Wayne (2012), Logan(2013), Stark (2014). I wonder if Sony can keep up with that. Competition is gearing up for the worse and things are changing drastically nowadays especially with mobile products. I hope Sony keeps up otherwise they will be gone before you know it.

# What the hell? — Javi 2011-02-17 01:58

Everytime I read a story from Sony it sounds more and more like they think their consumers are cows who need to be milked for money. Its like they're always trying to piss people off instead of trying to please their fanbase. Maybe that's why Microsoft and the Xbox 360 kicked their butts for the last 5 years. Yeah we know Microsoft is an american company and it's success hurts you but get over it Sony.

+1 # Sigh.. — Seaweed 2011-02-17 08:25

Some people should really read and think before they start freaking out.

# Price point — Javi 2011-02-18 01:20

Im pretty sure the price will be from 329.00 dollars to 450.00. Better start saving that change...

+1 # Two things that must remain in NGP. — CyberJoe 2011-02-18 11:54

Two analog sticks, Multi-touchscreen, please remove that ridiculous, useless rear touch pad.

# RE: Features removed from NGP to keep price down — Johnathan 2011-02-19 02:05

Oh noes, how will I live without my 3G and GPS features now? Pfft, who cares.

# things they had removed — gokufan 2011-02-19 02:48

high res screens, dual analog sticks, touch screens, 3g, gps, wifi, the powervr gpu and the quad cortex a9. yup. that sums it up

# There is nothing to take away — prototype.aim-9 2011-02-19 20:00

As Antoine de Saint-Exupery once said:
"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
(you can still learn something from Civ 4 =D)

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