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David Hayter on why movie-based games suck

Posted May 31, 2010 at 9:44AM EST by Glenn M.

Listed in: PSP, PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS, Xbox 360, PC Gaming, iPhone Tags: David Hayter
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While there are games like GoldenEye that stand out as classics despite being a tie-in for a movie, most other games under that category are pretty much in the realm of the damned. David Hayter, better known as the voice of Solid Snake, shares his take on how that happens.

 

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"I work on very expensive movies, [so] I’m pretty intimately involved with the process," he said. "What happens is, nobody wants to pull the trigger [on a big-budget movie] because once you do it becomes a freight train rolling, there is no way to stop it. Once you pull the trigger on $100+ million, that’s a train you don’t want leaving the station unless you’re absolutely sure."

 

"So it takes a long time for people to agree that the movie is going forward and once it does, it just goes. And the filmmakers start spending money before the studio gets cold feet. So they drag their feet and drag their feet and drag their feet, and then they give the green light and suddenly you’re going, you have to be shooting this summer."

 

The effect? Developers end up having to rush to meet the deadlines, leaving a very compromised game to hit the stores. There are, however, cases like Iron Man 2. "With something like ‘Iron Man 2,’ from the opening weekend of [the first] ‘Iron Man’ you know you’re making ‘Iron Man 2.’ So theoretically, the video game adaptation should be great. But that’s really the only situation where you’re going to get enough advance time and enough advance money to do a proper video game adaptation."

 

Still, the Iron Man 2 game received poor reviews and became the season's example of a flop movie-game.

 

 

 

 

[via MTV Movies Blog]

 

 



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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckGlenn M. 2010-05-31 11:04
makes me think of how much time avalanche studios had with toy story 3..

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-2 # ...symbal 2010-05-31 12:06
Moonwalker was a good movie game.

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# RE: ...asfargh 2010-05-31 12:14
only the ARCADE version of Moonwalker was good.

look for gameplay footage on Youtube... its awesome

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+3 # ?UIAENRTD 2010-05-31 12:12
I guess they suck because movie-based games don't have to be any good. Someone has to buy this crappy games or else everyone would have stoped making them or started making good ones. It's just the label that sells, no need to invest into a good game behind the label. Oh, I need a present for little Jimmy, i heard he likes this Toy Story film and he likes computer games. Maybe i should get him this game.

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+1 # RE: ?But Fukir 2010-05-31 20:19
Quoting UIAENRTD:
... Someone has to buy this crappy games or else everyone would have stoped making them ...

It's just the label that sells, no need to invest into a good game behind the label. ...


Exactly.

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# Remember?...Daistaar 2010-06-01 00:03
Quoting robthom robthom:
Quoting UIAENRTD:
... Someone has to buy this crappy games or else everyone would have stoped making them ...

It's just the label that sells, no need to invest into a good game behind the label. ...


Does anyone remember Home Alone 2 for SNES? LOL

Exactly.


Does anyone remember Home Alone 2 for SNES? LOL

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# RE: ?Reylink 2010-05-31 23:47
hey toy story is actually badass
haha my captcha was ps3kh

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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckGUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-05-31 12:34
David? Is that you?!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_payk7z8z4hw/S66rYvM51WI/AAAAAAAAAHI/2hYPYxVGSHA/s320/GDH.jpg

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+1 # RE: RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games sucko.O 2010-05-31 14:51
Yup, it's him. He was in the second Guyver movie. Look it up.

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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckGUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-05-31 12:35
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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckFlabiol 2010-05-31 12:57
Actually, I found that the Astroboy videogame was quite good. Short and uncomplete-feeling, but good nonetheless, I had some fun time playing it.

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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckeh 2010-05-31 13:40
iron man 2 game is not good at all, the same can be said to game based movies, street fighter, resident evil, prince of persia what next they gonna trash castlevania
?

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-1 # MaybeFatTrousers 2010-06-01 19:24
Live-action Sonic The Hedgehog

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-4 # RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games sucktjknight 2010-05-31 14:20
why the hell do i care what David Hayter thinks he single handly screw up watchmen he an r-tard who need to tell us he sorry i really dont know if im going to play peacewalker becuse he is in it. long live the squid you got 95% of it right then you turned the gun on your self and shoved it up you ass and pulled the trigger

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+2 # RE: RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckUltraPrinny 2010-06-03 14:34
Nobody hates the Hayter, dood!

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+4 # Ok....psp2 2010-05-31 16:01
So can yall stop with that ironman 2 advertisement that automatically plays.

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# RE: Ok....Navani 2010-05-31 16:12
Quoting psp2:
So can yall stop with that ironman 2 advertisement that automatically plays.


I understand the need for ads, but I hope QJ is getting boatloads of money for those stupid auto-playing video ads.

Oh, and whenever I try to look at someone's profile or edit mine, it freezes my entire browser (Firefox.. it does it on IE too, both fully updated) .. it stops at load.exeter.com or something.

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+1 # yeawoahwoah 2010-05-31 16:26
u can turn down the volume and your browser should memorize the setting.

whats really annoying is all those ipad articles. :-x

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-1 # Use..FatTrousers 2010-06-01 19:26
..Ad Blocking software/add-ons. I have no interest in supporting these eye-raping adverts or the websites that choose to annoy their followers by using them. Nice one QJ....

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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckElmer The One 2010-05-31 16:45
No movie adaption will ever be good EVER!
Well, maybe except Toy Story 3 :lol:

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-2 # Hmmaperson2 2010-05-31 17:18
Doesn't MGS4 count as a movie-based game?

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# RE: HmmRapper Don 2010-05-31 19:29
Nope. it is just a game with movie but not based on any films. this is what it meant to say by movie-based game like Mortal Kombat the Movie for example.

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# hmm...victorinox 2010-05-31 19:48
I dont like this reason, I always personally thought that say Movie based games, had 1 key problem... And thats the actual transfer...

a lot of Terminator salvation for instance was running around, not really fighting... How many people are gonna want to run around over fight? It also leads to a lot of people accepting from the start its gonna suck!

there are many other examples, but most times you have a movie that for 1 reason or another will not be fun to play but cool to watch, and vice versa, take Golden eye... I dont see anyone claiming the campaign (i dont even remember if it had one... But i think it did) its always about the multiplayer

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+1 # RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckBut Fukir 2010-05-31 20:12
Lol @ that picture.

Well besides most movies suck so making a game out of a turd = an interactive turd.
But movies are big big business.
Like oil.

They allegedly spent 10 mil acquiring the rights for the 2600 ET title.
And that was 1982 bucks!

Lawyer ball developers like activision probably spend 10-20X the money on acquiring the property rights and advertising then they do on actual coding and development.

Actually creating the game must be so secondary after all the money invested in licensing and product placement that its probably considered a superfluous overhead to be reigned in and kept to a minimum

They're not selling you a videogame in the case of movie tie ins, they're selling you a brand name.

Thats one way to make a sure buck because most people are stupid enough to keep buying them.

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+1 # I had my good timesKAIEN454 2010-06-01 03:59
I had my good times playing spiderman 2.

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# RE: I had my good timesUltraPrinny 2010-06-03 14:35
I loved that game dood!

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# so you mean...andrewcha 2010-06-01 05:20
that the upcoming game 'clash of the titan' would be a great hit? Since the movie is out long ago and the game now only coming out to the retails store?

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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckwill p 2010-06-01 05:34
The only two good movie games i played were lord of the rings return of the king and goldeneye. Also World is not enough was good on 64

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# RE: RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suckBut Fukir 2010-06-01 17:24
The lord of the rings games were pretty good, especially at the time.

And I agree that out of the 3 ROTK was the best one and is more playable today than the first two.

I was also surprised by how playable treasure planet was on the PSX. I haven't played the PS2 version.

Monsters incorporated on PSX was alright except for the camera, which was always a problem for even the best 3D platformers.

Small soldiers on PSX was pretty fun.

People liked the die hard trilogy games, but I didn't play them so I cant vouch for it.

Apocalypse on PSX was fun at the time.

The godfather on PS2 was a sometimes iffy but pretty good GTA rip off.

And Lego star wars was of course actually better than the prequel trilogy.
:D

Its not impossible to make a movie based game, its just unusual because its so much easier and cost effective to throw something together and stick the name on it.

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# LolzPower_Surge 2010-06-01 19:55
Hayter's gunna hate...

(sorry, couldn't resist)

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# RE: LolzUltraPrinny 2010-06-03 14:36
FTW dood!

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# RE: David Hayter on why movie-based games suck8675309 2010-06-03 13:35
pokemon crystal was a movie tie in aswell

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# Nostalgic feelin'niko 2010-07-08 02:09
MGS1 and Goldeneye were my first videogames. back when games were "real games" and the Grenade Launcher's best friend was the P90.

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