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David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation

Posted Apr 5, 2010 at 8:48PM EST by Ryan F.

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: David Cage, e3, Heavy Rain, micorsoft, Natal, playstation move, Quantic Dream, Sony

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Quantic Dream's boss David Cage is a bit skeptical of the upcoming motion-sensing peripheral from Microsoft, claiming that the company lied on it's Natal presentation at last year's E3 conference. Speaking to Destructoid, Cage said:

I've seen Natal, and I'm really curious to see what they're going to do with it. I was a bit frustrated that they presented it with a sci-fi-type presentation..

When the kid comes in with the skateboard and the laser ray, scanning the skateboard, and then it's in the game. The ability to take pictures and then map images into a game is possible, but not to the extent that the Natal promo video would like us to believe. We are in the industry; we know what's feasible and what's not.

I thought it was a little bit lying to present it that way, because it will let [consumers] think that they will [see] something that they are not really close to getting.

Microsoft is set to reveal more details of their new hardware at this year's E3 while Cage on the other hand, was already hinting at PlayStation Move support for Heavy Rain since Sony's magic wand was announced.

Via [Destructoid]

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Have you ever used the Move? I thought not...
The move may LOOK like the wiimote, I think its patent breaking right off the top... but only in its physique, I was able to program and use the Move to accurately write my name on a computer screen neater and more accurately then I can use a mouse, within 5 minutes of getting it. I predict BIG things for the move if Sony invests in the right studios, I've seen the game designs at my studio that are being hyped to publishers with the Move being a key feature... and if Sony invests, then it'll be really cool.

The wiimote... I mean uhhh... the move gives programmers like me the ability to make user interfaces never before seen on consoles because of the lack of a mouse, now if we could just get a gig of ram and gfx card with its own gig, then we'd be kicking.

+1 # ... — Ryan F. 2010-04-05 22:50

Well, what do you think guys? Do you agree with Cage?

# Yes and No — Guest 2010-04-05 23:07

Cage, like anyone else, is a complete idiot if he thinks that the "promo video" for Natal is accurately depicting anything that it does. Hell, the video says dramatization in the bottom corner to begin with.

The video was built to drum up excitement for Natal, as opposed to Sony, while interesting tech as well, had a very, while not altogether boring, slapped together presentation.

They've never shown the image recording feature in real life yet, so you can speculate on how well it'll work, but to expect that it'll work as well as in a pre-made video is just stupid.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious David, you dolt.

+2 # Hmm.. — BryCee12 2010-04-06 12:15

I think when he said "I've seen Natal." he ment he has played with it a bit. So he is comparing what he has seen first hand with what Microsoft presented in their promo video.. That's my understanding from the article anyway..

+4 # Yup — astaroth001 2010-04-05 23:48

Agreed...pretty much what zzk said

-1 # Hmm — Fujin 2010-04-07 01:40

Lets rewind the hands of time to E3 2005 with the PS3 tech demo... then let me paste Mr. Cage's comment [insert comment here] "I thought it was a little bit lying to present it that way, because it will let [consumers] think that they will [see] something that they are not really close to getting." No offense Sony, still love your system

+1 # It was Obvious.. — Guest 2010-04-05 22:53

It was pretty obvious that it was just a lie, with like computerized stuff and timing and then the kid would act as if the sensor did all that he did, THE REALITY is that it wont work just like the wii sensor and it will have a lag delay.

+1 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Guest 2010-04-05 23:05

i think "Well, what do you think guys? Do you agree with Cage?" would fit in the actual article rather than a comments. just a thought.

# RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Guest 2010-04-05 23:06

This stupid thing that both of them are doing is pathetic. The "We want to be cooler than the Wii" charade they're putting on is a joke. Everyone knows this means stupid pin the tail on the donkey type garbage games. I'm not that hard into video gaming in the first place, just a few core games. But if this is seriously the direction the industry is headed in, along with this silly 3D stuff, then I'm done with video games. I do have other things to do that don't involve me looking like a street performer.

/endrant

+4 # yea — zzk2001 2010-04-05 23:08

100% agree with him.

Natal is nothing new, Even Sony tried making their PS3 eye out to be better then it is with the videos of the PS3 eye showing some really cool things yet when it came down to playing with it, It was just the same old stuff just a little better.
Lets Hope the PS3 Move will really be True 1:1 motion control AND... the games will Use the full motion of it, not just add it as a last thing to the game and just makes it crap.

-8 # wtf? — Zhipp 2010-04-05 23:32

How could they have lied? They played game with Natal in front of an audience!

+1 # RE: wtf? — Guest 2010-04-06 00:45

Because it was a recorded video...The game they played with the red balls was laggy as hell...The skateboard game was a video and most of the tech demos were just that...They were pre rendered scenes with actors moving in front of the screen with pre-determined actions/voice commands.

That is how they lied.

+1 # dude — Guest 2010-04-06 05:38

dude, read the article first before u say anything

+1 # that demo was krap — Guest 2010-04-06 10:59

how does the CG trailer even remotely compares to a girl randomly kicking balls to a skreen? and with a lot of lag, and extremely poor recognition. At some moments, body parts appear on different parts of the screen!

# Okay — Zhipp 2010-04-06 14:23

First,that was DEMO at e3, an incomplete game. Second, there wasn't alot of lag, and the recognition was quite accurate. Maybe we didn't see the same video.

Of course the advertisement was fake, all of them are.

+6 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — splontot 2010-04-05 23:12

Not to mention the kid had his hands covering part of the skateboard

Also, in the invisible walls podcast, they said that when you tried the Milo demo, MS employees told you what to say so it would seem like a real conversation...

+5 # RE: RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Censored99 2010-04-05 23:16

Quoting splontot:

Also, in the invisible walls podcast, they said that when you tried the Milo demo, MS employees told you what to say so it would seem like a real conversation...

LOL just like them (MS) lol

+6 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — MangoScango 2010-04-05 23:39

Well yeah. I mean, it's just like the eyetoy. Even if it's 300x more accurate and usable, its still going to get boring after a half hour.

They have to make it look super cool to cover that up.

+1 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Guest 2010-04-06 01:02

microsoft its just a big lier, always selling incomplete products

+1 # obviosly — Guest 2010-04-06 02:16

obviously it's was a fake they showed a video commercial trying to spruce up something that were no one is close to completing yet if japan hasn't got it down completely yet then someone like microsoft isn't going to get it anytime soon im mean japan is just starting with 3d technology
scanning and putting something like that in a game. i call bullshit

+1 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Guest 2010-04-06 04:44

Nintendo did the same when they first showcased Wii. Remember the Metroid video where the dude actually crouched to turn into the ball? That's ridiculous. They were also playing ACTUAL tennis on the stage, when they were playing Wii sports. That kind of movement is totally unnecessary, as the game cannot detect it anyway! Ridiculous!

+2 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — vegeta93105 2010-04-06 06:46

agreed.
it was suspicious enought to offer a video and not a real demo like the one sony did.

fishy from the start....

# lol — vizard00 2010-04-06 07:50

so if all that was a consperensy , E3 and M$ are MFkrs and we are stupid.

+1 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Guest 2010-04-06 07:56

Natal looked like crap at E3 when the guy was demoing it he barely lifted his foot and the avatar on screen went into a seizure.

I don't see a way for real games to use Natal at all just stupid "wii type" games.

-1 # RE: David Cage: Microsoft lied in E3 Natal presentation — Guest 2010-04-06 08:46

he's a sony lover he'll put microsoft down any chance he can get.. he did one game and thinks he's a god now when his game sucks..

# Uhm no. — BryCee12 2010-04-06 12:24

"David Cage founded Quantic Dream in 1997. He has designed and directed all three games so far released by the studio: Omikron: The Nomad Soul (1999), Fahrenheit (2005), and Heavy Rain, which was released in February 2010."

Mr Cage here has made more then one GREAT game, ever even played Heavy Rain?
What's your favorite game? Halo 3?
He is merely giving his opinion, if you dont like it, dont read the article.

+1 # obvious — Guest 2010-04-06 09:48

From the moment they came with a video and not a live demo, we knew it was too good to be true. The knew PS would come out with something and needed something that seems cooler to rival that, so they made a video of what they would like to have but still has a long way to go. It's like Mille Vanille trying to compete with Micheal Jackson; lip sync vs real voice talent

# Remember — pissteeth 2010-04-07 02:34

That first video for Killzone 2 that Sony showed at E3 that looked like some kind of Pixar movie and for weeks they claimed it was actual gameplay footage? Sony lied too.

# thats not relevant — Guest 2010-04-21 17:55

because Sony's killzone 2 footage was a target render and the actual game lived up to the quality of the footage, you should play it, it's one of the graphically best games out there, still bests anything the 360 has to offer graphically

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