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World's fastest supercomputer powered by PS3 CELL chip |
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This could be the most credible proof that the PlayStation 3 possesses formidable hardware: IBM's fastest supercomputer to date, Blue Gene/P, is juiced up by the same kind of processing chip that was originally designed for the Sony PS3.Blue Gene/P is approximately 100,000 more powerful than a PC, just enough to make PlayStation 3 owners feel proud about their powerful machine. IBM's latest supercomputer can run about 1,000 trillion calculations per second, also termed as "petaflops".
Blue Gene/P's predecessor, the Blue Gene/L, is used to protect nuclear weapons stockpile, and has already reached a calculating speed of 280.6 teraflops or trillions of calculations. "Blue Gene/P marks the evolution of the most powerful supercomputing platform the world has ever known," said Dave Turek, vice president of IBM's deep computing, about Blue Gene/P.
IBM possesses a remarkable supercomputer manufacturing portfolio: they have produced about 50% of existing 500 supercomputers, as well as providing CELL processors for PlayStation 3 and for the Blue Gene/P. IBM also has notable competition in the supercomputing industry with the likes of Sun, maker of the Constellation machines.
The first batch of Blue Gene/P are slated for use at the following institutions: the Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory, the UK Science and Technology Facilities Council, and two unnamed US laboratories.
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This computer is made of REAL Cell CPUs with more cache and 8 SPUs
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Sounds like skynet lol.
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So take that petaflop performance with a grain of salt, it may not actually achieve such a rate for say a simple 64 bit add instruction.
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http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32645/118/
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Yes, the Cells in this super computer would all be 8 SPU cells, as they are not worried about production capabilities and would be going for quality over quantity....they are probably also using 500-1000 Cell's to acheive this performance...
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It's made for inline calculations like weather simulators, physics reactions simulators, protein folding simulators....translation of data from satelites into real time images....REALLY REALLY good for scientific and education purposes...also very scaeleable as you can keep addin'g cpu's....
Unfortunately, it's not good for out of order calculations, "ifs" and "whens" and "elses", which is what the vast majority of game code is....very little is set in stone in a game, even moreso with worlds becomming more and more dynamic....
This is one of the reasons I think splinter cell conviction "cannot be done" on PS3....they have so much A.I and variables that need to be checked, it's just not possible for the single general purpose CPU on the PS3 to handle it all.....remember "everything" can be interacted with in the game and how you interact with is case specific....that's alot of out-of-order code....
But it's great for creating geometry, that doesn't think.....so this is why in Lair you see lot's of mountains with lot's of polygons.....and you get to swoop down on huge crowds of "soldiers" that just stand there while you torch them.....
Sony created cell knowing it would be an ass-kicker in the real world, and that they would make most of their money licensing it out to universities and labs....then decided they might as well throw it into the PS3, without really thinking about how well it would do as a gaming CPU....
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EVERY 8th SPU on EVERY ps3 can't be broken can it?
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Anyway Im pretty sure this Stupid kid got the R Kelly special and took a load of P.I.S.S in the face, That he has to come in here to bash the ps3.
You should have seen another xbox troll using mister common sense name when he is unregistered. Man I think the xbox and wii fanboys has shown the Guinness world record of Ignorance. This guy is as funny as someone getting S.H.O.T in the street. Which means he isnt.
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and have you seen the 100%(so far no one yet) potential for the cell processor and the ps3 as a whole. I guess so with an ignorant comment like that, we should be praising you for the work you have done on the ps3 hardware console.
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I don't like fanboys, hence R Kelly deserves to be attacked, but you are a hypocrit, and even in your post you can't resist dropping down to R Kelly's level with your attack on the 360, an attack which is just as petty and childish as his.
Forums like this would be a far better place without the likes of you both! Sorry, but it's true.
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The article on the BBC's website mentions Cell with respect to OTHER computers.
Sally B, you've got this completely wrong.
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I may be unregistered but at least i know what im talking about.
Datnizzle is a registered user, i dont know for how long he has, but im pretty he has dealt with his fair share of ignorant fanboys himself, just like me. But you obviously have no concept of anything, everything he stated in his comment is fact. Xbox Fanboys roam here as if they are roaches in a washed up restaurant. Now im not saying the ps3 forums are washed up(definitely not) but it was just an analogy. All they do is come in our blogs and such and bash the ps3 as if they know everything on the ps3. Yea me as a gamer and ps3 fan i know more of the ps3 uses and parts than the xbox fanboys do with there failure of a system. Thats fact, just look at the xbox being sent out back and forth to get fixed. If i have to estimate overall how many has been shipped since there problems must be over 10,000+ consoles, worldwide. How many ps3's oh thats right my best estimate is 100 at best, worldwide. so yea very lopsided
personally i dont really cre as much to R-kelly and his problems but i do think he should not have the problems that he has its not his fault the girls stand there not moving while he is P.I.S.S.I.N.G on them. If they truly hate it as much why stay there like you want it. Irony people. But enough with him.
BTW Gamer your post was a waste. Next write something other than arrows. Are you afraid someone will attack you and say your ignorant, well sorry but you ARE!
PSX the only one drooping down to anyone's level like the Fake R-Kelly is you. At least Datnizzle made excellent points. All you did was bash him and his post without the use of points to back up anything.
So im sorry this forum would be a far better place without the likes of you and at the impostor called R-Kelly
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And you're unregistered too, so what are you talking about. Equally, being registered or not has NOTHING to do with knowing what you're 'talking about! So if you're going to reply, at least do so intelligently.
"Xbox Fanboys roam here as if they are roaches in a washed up restaurant."
As do PS3 fanboys on the 360 forum. It ALWAYS happens, here is nothing special.
"I may be unregistered but at least i know what im talking about."
That's for OTHERS to decide. So please get up off your pompous a$$.
"Datnizzle is a registered user, i dont know for how long he has, but im pretty he has dealt with his fair share of ignorant fanboys himself, just like me."
And I've been around here long enough to know that Datnizzle is one of the biggest PS3 fanboys around here (and doesn't always login to post)! So please STFU.
For example, here's REGISTERED Datnizzle on QJ recently;
http://pc.qj.net/DiRT-Colin-McRae-video-review/pg/49/aid/95750
I've argued with Datnizzle here a number of times already, where he has shown his true fanboy colours on many occations. So in fact, I'M the one who knows what he's talking about.
And here, Datnizzle says the 360 games suck and that 360 gamers online are a$$holes, and yet that's alright for you, and yet I say NOTHING against the PS3 (and never do), and somehow you have a problem with me?
Pi$$ off you cowardly fanboy in denial.
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Gamer simply agrees with me and that make's him ignorant?
My, you REALLY of full of yourself aren't you.
Anyway, thanks for showing yourself up to be yet another fanboy I can add to the 'idiots' list Stealth.
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Also again nice try but again im complaining to you cause all you did was bash im and said nothing on how is wrong or bring up facts or points. So yea How about you PI$$ off and spare us with your whining like a small school girl
BTW i read that link of what he said and basically he's right on everything. Why comepare complete games to racing.
And why claim your game is the best when its multi? i can see your post is of non importance Thats for showing or even making read a waste of link. How about you read this:
http://blogs.ign.com/aerial_rave/2007/06/27/58585/Comments.aspx?blog+aerial_rave+entryid+58585
This guys isnt a faboy and he just destroys microsoft and exposes there Money grubbing ways. I can honestly say i agree with him on everything, Its quite funny honestly how ppl chose them over The real game consoles that has been around longer than MS, being nintendo and Sony. Oh and after reading this, you may want to consider leaving this site seeming how you don't know anything. I agree with Datnizzle more than you, Mister common sense and Shatterdome. BTW i literally pwned Shatterdome post on either this one or another topic.
Again im not a fanboy.
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Gears and halo are so over-rated in my book. But as a game i say its alright.
Good for you with your ps3, i hope your very satisfied with it as much as i am lol.
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ALL fanboys are the same. There are no good fanboys and bad fanboys, there are no fanboys better or worse than the others, since how they behave depends on what's happening at the time. How fanboys are perceived depends on your own personal bias (which you're clearly biased toward the PS3, so comments from PS3 fanboys go unnoticed, or you agree with them, like Datnizzle here).
So like I said, I KNOW Datnizzle, I KNOW he's a PS3 fanboys, and his attack on the 360 and it's gamers only proves my point (which would have been obvious to all except fanboys seeking to defend Datnizzle).
" all you did was bash im and said nothing on how is wrong or bring up facts or points"
I clearly said why I attacked him, read it again.
BTW, I'm not here to defend the 360, I don't own one so why should I defend it? If you want to go on about MS and the 360, go ahead, but at the same time, I'm not going to say nothing when I see one fanboy attacking someone else for being a fanboy and then acts like the fanboy himself in the rest of his post.
"Again im not a fanboy."
Again, yes you are, quit the denial. Attacks on 360 games and 360 gamers is fine by you, and this fact together with your defence of a known fanboy, shows you are a fanboy, whether you like it or not.
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If you don't want to be considered a fanboy yourself, don't side with them. Don't defend them just because they say SOME things you agree with or SOME things you would like to here, and don't ignore fanboy remarks like "The games on the 360 suck, the players on live are a$$holes", because to do so means you agree with it, and if you do, then yes you're a fanboy too.
Besides, I would have agreed with Datnizzle's post if a) he stopped after attacking R Kelly and didn't launch his own attack on 360 games and gamers, and b) if it came from someone other than Datnizzle himself.
Like I said, R Kelly deserved to be attacked, so no way would I defend him for his PS3 remarks, but at the same time, you should defend Datnizzle for his 360 remarks in responce.
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Of course, that should have been "...you shouldn't defend Datnizzle for his 360 remarks in responce."
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And MS arent leaders they are just in the game industry for the piece of the pie, nothign more. And if that wasnt bad enough they pay developers money to make gamers for the, while developers make games for nintendo and sony case they know there games will rock on there console's will there own free will no bribery here.
And whats even worse than that is paying 50 million for two exclusive parts on GTAIV, im sorry are you afraid MS thats GTAIV on the sony console will be better than yours that you have to pay for exclusives downloads. Im pretty sure they will make some exclusives for sony since GTA is an PS Original.
The fact is MS doesnt even use there own features there known for and best at. But they care more about competition wow, they have sunk a new low in my book. So thats why im siding woth Datnizzle cause unlike most he understand the problems of MS. Fanboy or not he is definitely the smarter fanboy. There is nothing with being fanboys actually since tehy are good and bad, bad sprout out garbage and dont even say anything good about the console, XBL is the only thing good for MS. And good are ppl who Aren't ignorant fools like your self, and gamer. He cold at least used some words like "i agree with you there" i mean ^^^ is just a magnet for ignorance. But i guess you wouldn't understand your probably younger than me so yea TTYl i have just wasted my time talking to someone who isnt worth it. I would rather spend my time posting to Mister common sense, And Shatterdome than you.
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"I will defend him cause he's right. Given if you read that link of mine thats reason alone."
That link (once corrected because QJ changes many of the characters to '+'), doesn't prove anything other than it's someone's opinion of MS. You could find similar rants about Sony, but who cares, it should be your OWN opinion that counts.
However, the fact that you still defend comments which says 360 games suck shows you are truly a fanboy. And I notice you continue with dumb fanboy comments of your own in that post, so why the denial earlier. Like I said, you're a coward Shealth, a spineless boy who, like all fanboys, is unable to face the truth, not even about yourself.
I'll skip your poinitless mindless little rant (ever heard of paragraphs?) and I'll pick up from the following...
"And good are ppl who Aren't ignorant fools like your self, and gamer."
Go look in the mirror kid.
"He cold at least used some words like "i agree with you there" i mean ^^^ is just a magnet for ignorance."
LOL! You REALLY are STUPID aren't you! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID, CAN'T YOU READ? He said "Agreed PSX" in the SUBJECT, and added "^^^" in the comment box. How is that any different from what you're suggesting? Seems you looked in the comment box and no further, and YOU'RE calling HIM ignorant? LOL!
"But i guess you wouldn't understand your probably younger than me"
Actually I'm older than most people here, so I'm sure I'm older than you kid.
"so yea TTYl i have just wasted my time talking to someone who isnt worth it."
And I've wasted my time posting talking to a moron, especially one with poor reading skills.
So see you later spineless fanboy in denial (I knew I was right the first time).
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And sony pisses on you as well, oh wait i forgot R-Kelly has already done this to you. Never come back to this forum again.
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I truly hope your kidding or its a typo cause if your not, im ashamed to even be reading your comment let alone post a response to it.
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Why is saying "Agreed PSX" a big problem for you and how does that make me ignorant? How is your version of ""i agree with you there" any different from what I've already said?
I noticed you avoided answering this question when PSX asked you in his post.
From everything I read so far, I continue to agree with PSX. He hasn't thrown any insults at Sony or the PS3 or MS or the 360, but you have, so has R Kelly and so has Datnizzle. So for me, it's quite obvious that PSX is by far the more mature gamer here.
The only reason you attacked PSX (and myself) is because you treated PSX's attack on Datnizzle as an attack on yourself (for obvious reasons). And yet again, despite all your continued attacks against MS and the 360, not once has PSX said anything against Sony or the PS3, and he hasn't even jumped to the defence of MS and the 360, which you seem desperate for him to do. So again, he has proved himself to be a far more mature and sensible gamer than yourself.
>" Please dont think for once secodn your better than me again tell me whats great about ps3 or MS and maybe i will consider you as informative."
He doesn't need to, it's plain for everyone to see that he is more mature and more intelligent than you and doesn't feel the need to say anything bad against Sony or MS, making him a TRUE gamer, unlike biased gamers like you, R Kelly, Datnizzle and other fanboys.
So go ahead, attack me again, but like PSX, I'm not going to get drawn into the stupid kids game of console wars which you are desperate to play.
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oh no, i did it again, i must really be ignorant for putting a comment in the subject. lol!
i dont know why you guys are wasting your time with stealth, since its obvious hes just a fanboy. what made me laugh is watching stealth trying over and over again to pull psx into a war between the 360 and ps3 and seeing him get more fustrated as psx wouldnt take the bait. lol! its so obvious and yet he thinks hes being smart. you guys are right, hes a kid, a dumb kid, so dont waste your time with him. lol! go talk to someone who matters and leave him with his fanboy fantasies.
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ofgs, hes talking about RAM you fool, a hard-drive is not RAM, its completely different. the 360 and ps3 have 512MB of RAM each, go look it up. after this and your posts earlier, you're an embarrassment stealth, you really are.
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The general conclusion is that although PS3 has some more raw horsepower in the Cell, it's not the kind of processing used for games...also there are bottle necks in the system that even though the main bus transfer speed is higher then 360, they are not able to even fill the pipe 60%.
They agree that the more elegently designed 360 will run games better, and with all parts designed to work together, it CAN and does use the entirety of the bandwidth on it's system bus....
That's the thing, bottlenecks.....
One guy makes a good analogy of the PS3 being a drag racer and the 360 a high end sports car.....the drag racer has more horsepower and top speed in theory, but when put into pratical use, say on even a simple oval track, it will fail miserably, however the less powerful/speedy car that it's overall made better will succeed....
The Cell is a very specialised processor, this is what people need to realise....and its specialty is not gaming...
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Memory when talking about PC's and PC like devices is always RAM as that is in effect the devices "memory"
You are thinking of "Storage"
So my response above where I'm telling you to go read 12+ page technical breakdowns of the systems....ya, disregard that stealth because you won't even understand any of it and will be left in the dark forever mumbling "ps3 is the most powerful console on earth...." over and over....you say it enough you will beleive it...
Maybe go start first with some basic technical manuals, get your definitions of basic things down first, then you can maybe join in the discussion...
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The next xbox will have more power probably then the ps3, a blue ray or HD DVD drive depending on which one survives and wins the format wars.And will be cheaper then the ps3 was at launch, probably 400 dollars again. But even this advantage once released wont mean it will beat the consoles out at that point.
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Oh, and by the way, the Cell is OCTO-CORE. YES. EIGHT CORES. I don't know where the hell you think you got this "single core" ***** from, but you're WRONG, so STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF YOU IMBECILE. Just because the cores aren't as general-purpose (i.e. good at nothing, mediocre at everything) as a normal CPU does not mean that they're not cores.
Idiot.
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Exactly right.
This is why I knew he was a kid, because all he wanted to do was argue about the consoles when the discussion was actually about fanboys, not consoles. I have nothing against any console, I just don't like fanboys, and yet he could not understand that.
He even boasts about a victory he THINKS he had over Shatterdome elsewhere on QJ, which is something no adult would feel the need to do. The fact that he relies on someone elses blog to make 'his' point (again console wars) and thinks it's proof rather than opinion, again shows his lack of maturity. He attacked Gamer for doing nothing wrong and to cap it all, he shows his complete lack of knowledge when he demonstrated that he doesn't even know the difference between RAM and HDD storage (elsewhere in this thread) and does so in a way where he thinks he's the one who's right.
So yes PS34ME, Shealth is a kid, he acts like one, thinks like one and is as naive as you could get. I have nothing against kids however, I've had some great discussions with kids online over the years, but Stealth is not a kid who is mature for his age and therefore can hold an intelligent discussion online. Instead, he has a lot of growing up to do. :|
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Sony did not just make a Blu-Ray player with a simple console inside because the games industry is worth far more to sony than that.
Blu-Ray games of Blu-Ray proportions will be out for the PS3 in the future and it wont be just full of video. I have PS2 games that come on 2 DVD's so why not?
The Cell IS a very powerful processor and no, the single unit in the PS3 alone is not the only Cell running the hardware mentioned in the article above! It of course has many many Cells but they did choose Cells and if they chose other processors, then more would have been required and the cost would have been greater.
If both the 360 and PS3 were squeezed to capacity, the graphic quality would look better on the 360 but the content, diversity and scale would be better on PS3.
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PS. PS3 RULES ALL XBOX SUX ASS
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