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World's fastest supercomputer powered by PS3 CELL chip

Posted Jul 1, 2007 at 12:56AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: gaming accessories, IBM, juiced, Sony, Supercomputer

This could be the most credible proof that the PlayStation 3 possesses formidable hardware: IBM's fastest supercomputer to date, Blue Gene/P, is juiced up by the same kind of processing chip that was originally designed for the Sony PS3.

Blue Gene/P is approximately 100,000 more powerful than a PC, just enough to make PlayStation 3 owners feel proud about their powerful machine. IBM's latest supercomputer can run about 1,000 trillion calculations per second, also termed as "petaflops".

Blue Gene/P's predecessor, the Blue Gene/L, is used to protect nuclear weapons stockpile, and has already reached a calculating speed of 280.6 teraflops or trillions of calculations. "Blue Gene/P marks the evolution of the most powerful supercomputing platform the world has ever known," said Dave Turek, vice president of IBM's deep computing, about Blue Gene/P.

IBM possesses a remarkable supercomputer manufacturing portfolio: they have produced about 50% of existing 500 supercomputers, as well as providing CELL processors for PlayStation 3 and for the Blue Gene/P. IBM also has notable competition in the supercomputing industry with the likes of Sun, maker of the Constellation machines.

The first batch of Blue Gene/P are slated for use at the following institutions: the Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory, the UK Science and Technology Facilities Council, and two unnamed US laboratories.

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So I have been searching through IBM articles and I know IBM took some effort to design Cell processors for servers and scientific computing, however I found little to no details on the physical differences between the ps3 cell and its limited instruction set with these Cells supposedly designed for scientific computing.

So take that petaflop performance with a grain of salt, it may not actually achieve such a rate for say a simple 64 bit add instruction.

# No wonder — Guest 2007-07-01 07:29

Look at the terraflop processing number..with numbers like these i bet the ps3 could play games.....wait a minute hgas sony even tried using it for games/?? Or is it just a poorly made trojan horse to ram sony's crappy new format down our throats? The specs seem pretty accurate though.. I mean the terraflop number clearly indicate that when it comes to flopping the ps3 has definitely delivered.

# ... — Guest 2007-07-01 07:57

Do you really think your funny?

# It has nothing to do with CELL — Guest 2007-07-01 08:14

BlueGene/P is based on the PowerPC 450 processor which is clocked at 850 MHz

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32645/118/

# good one — Datnizzle 2007-07-01 08:20

That was entertaining. Man, you xbots are bored, huh. So tired of playing those crappy games, that you troll ps3 blogs and look for a way to comfort yourselves. I mean you read the xbox blog and then read the ps3 blog, cause you have nothing better to do than read every detail about a console you hate. The games on the 360 suck, the players on live are a$$holes, and your systems are probably broken anyway. So what does that mean, the ps3 blogs have to put up with these idiots trying to burn the free time they have because of NOT playing their 3*****tys. The fact that you think blu-ray is some "crappy new format" shows you are exactly want M$ wants in a customer- ignorant about electronics, and not afraid to show it.

# I agree with Datnizzle — Guest 2007-07-01 10:04

I have never in my life read such a dumb and ignorant post. I thought Xman was pathetic but this guy has taken retardation to a new level. If Blu Ray is so crappy why is it winning again? How about you stay the F.U.C.K out of the PS3 section you piece of s.h.i.t . Go play with your crayons over there in the corner. Does mommy know that his little boy is on the internet. Go back to sucking on Bill Gates D.I.C.K you *****.

# Xbots — Guest 2007-07-01 10:35

Wait you xbots claimed that the cell power in ps3 is weak and when it is announced to be the most powerful piece of hardware you claim that the cell chip in the ps3 isn't the real thing damn/and this other idiot who says the super computer has nothing to do with the cell power just proves how people would find scraps of useless info on the planet just to say ps3 ain't that powerful. And about kz2 after checking the graphics out i have one question why does crytek claim next gen consoles cant handle crysis when kz2 has slightly better and i mean slighhhtly better graphics and crytek claims it will be only on pc they forget they work for ea. Their is no such thing as exclusives look at bioshock now on ps3 my only link is the official ps3 mag. But anyways whats with this technology we wont get to use ten years frm now ?

# R Kelly — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-07-01 11:50

Go chase little wieners somewhere else.

# Re: R kelly — Guest 2007-07-01 13:32

Im having lots of fun playing Rainbow Six (with free and exclusive maps), Resistance (with da new map pack), n Warhawk, n motor storm... So get it through your thick as5 head, Theres lots of games on the ps3. Your saying a damn lie that wont fall through anymore.

# Actually... — Shatterdome 2007-07-01 15:29

The cell in the PS3 has one SPU disabled to produce better yields when creating waffers (the things they actually create the cpu on)....then it has one reserved for the XMB at all times....so 6 for actual game usage...

Yes, the Cells in this super computer would all be 8 SPU cells, as they are not worried about production capabilities and would be going for quality over quantity....they are probably also using 500-1000 Cell's to acheive this performance...

# douche — Guest 2007-07-01 15:33

datnizzle i gotta agree with you 100% on this one, i dont know whats so god damn great about xbox live, its not much better then ps3, not much at all, costs $ + EVERY PLAYER on it is a f.u.c.k.i.n.g. c.o.c.k. sucking a$$ hole, everytime i play gears at my friends house everyone is trying to destroy everyone else with words and b!tching, but i have only found ONE person like that on resistance, after playing it since LAUNDCH DAY until now. over 2000 different ppl i have played with + they were all cool but that one guy, im sorry *****, but id rather have playstation online for free + enjoy playing then pay for live + spend the whole time b!tching with little kids and just plain a$$holes.

# Well.. — Shatterdome 2007-07-01 15:39

Only an idiot would claim that the Cell is a weak chip.....but it would also take an idiot to say that the cell was made for games...because it's not.

It's made for inline calculations like weather simulators, physics reactions simulators, protein folding simulators....translation of data from satelites into real time images....REALLY REALLY good for scientific and education purposes...also very scaeleable as you can keep addin'g cpu's....

Unfortunately, it's not good for out of order calculations, "ifs" and "whens" and "elses", which is what the vast majority of game code is....very little is set in stone in a game, even moreso with worlds becomming more and more dynamic....

This is one of the reasons I think splinter cell conviction "cannot be done" on PS3....they have so much A.I and variables that need to be checked, it's just not possible for the single general purpose CPU on the PS3 to handle it all.....remember "everything" can be interacted with in the game and how you interact with is case specific....that's alot of out-of-order code....

But it's great for creating geometry, that doesn't think.....so this is why in Lair you see lot's of mountains with lot's of polygons.....and you get to swoop down on huge crowds of "soldiers" that just stand there while you torch them.....

Sony created cell knowing it would be an ass-kicker in the real world, and that they would make most of their money licensing it out to universities and labs....then decided they might as well throw it into the PS3, without really thinking about how well it would do as a gaming CPU....

# the 8th SPU is disabled.. — Guest 2007-07-01 18:11

But if (when XD) the ps3 firmware is cracked, could the 8th one be enabled through software?

EVERY 8th SPU on EVERY ps3 can't be broken can it?

# R Kelly — Guest 2007-07-01 19:35

I will 100% agree with you Datnizzle. Did you know some xbox troll is using your Name.

Anyway Im pretty sure this Stupid kid got the R Kelly special and took a load of P.I.S.S in the face, That he has to come in here to bash the ps3.

You should have seen another xbox troll using mister common sense name when he is unregistered. Man I think the xbox and wii fanboys has shown the Guinness world record of Ignorance. This guy is as funny as someone getting S.H.O.T in the street. Which means he isnt.

# Shatterdome — Guest 2007-07-01 19:44

You are as ignorant as the ppl who bash the ps3 ad the cell. Have you not seen the games on the ps3?

and have you seen the 100%(so far no one yet) potential for the cell processor and the ps3 as a whole. I guess so with an ignorant comment like that, we should be praising you for the work you have done on the ps3 hardware console.

# jay — Guest 2007-07-01 19:47

Yea but your mom has to me last night.

# SKYNET — Guest 2007-07-01 20:08

NICE LOL

# The problem is people like R Kelly AND Datnizzle — Guest 2007-07-01 20:09

You are no different than the Xbots you talk of. I've seen many posts from you acting the same way.

I don't like fanboys, hence R Kelly deserves to be attacked, but you are a hypocrit, and even in your post you can't resist dropping down to R Kelly's level with your attack on the 360, an attack which is just as petty and childish as his.

Forums like this would be a far better place without the likes of you both! Sorry, but it's true.

# toasty... — Shatterdome 2007-07-01 20:49

No, they are "Broken" The reasoning is if they try to produce chips with 8 spu's they have to throw out any waffers that somehow defect and produce only 7 spu's....so if they disable one, then they do not have to waste any, unless they are horribly defective with 2+ spu's gone....

# Agreed PSX — Guest 2007-07-01 22:31

^^^

# . — Guest 2007-07-02 00:38

Any game console can play a HD pre rendered video. Especially the hype station 3!

# IT IS NOT POWERED BY CELL. READ THE LINK!!! — Guest 2007-07-02 00:49

As nerdyfreak pointed out above, this is based around PowerPC 450 CPU from IBM, NOT Cell.

The article on the BBC's website mentions Cell with respect to OTHER computers.

Sally B, you've got this completely wrong.

# WTF to PSX — Guest 2007-07-02 02:14

Im sorry but for someone who's unregistered you have no idea what your talking about. Hence my stated IGNORANT in my post.

I may be unregistered but at least i know what im talking about.

Datnizzle is a registered user, i dont know for how long he has, but im pretty he has dealt with his fair share of ignorant fanboys himself, just like me. But you obviously have no concept of anything, everything he stated in his comment is fact. Xbox Fanboys roam here as if they are roaches in a washed up restaurant. Now im not saying the ps3 forums are washed up(definitely not) but it was just an analogy. All they do is come in our blogs and such and bash the ps3 as if they know everything on the ps3. Yea me as a gamer and ps3 fan i know more of the ps3 uses and parts than the xbox fanboys do with there failure of a system. Thats fact, just look at the xbox being sent out back and forth to get fixed. If i have to estimate overall how many has been shipped since there problems must be over 10,000+ consoles, worldwide. How many ps3's oh thats right my best estimate is 100 at best, worldwide. so yea very lopsided

personally i dont really cre as much to R-kelly and his problems but i do think he should not have the problems that he has its not his fault the girls stand there not moving while he is P.I.S.S.I.N.G on them. If they truly hate it as much why stay there like you want it. Irony people. But enough with him.

BTW Gamer your post was a waste. Next write something other than arrows. Are you afraid someone will attack you and say your ignorant, well sorry but you ARE!

PSX the only one drooping down to anyone's level like the Fake R-Kelly is you. At least Datnizzle made excellent points. All you did was bash him and his post without the use of points to back up anything.

So im sorry this forum would be a far better place without the likes of you and at the impostor called R-Kelly

# Oh please! — Guest 2007-07-02 03:39

"Im sorry but for someone who's unregistered you have no idea what your talking about."

And you're unregistered too, so what are you talking about. Equally, being registered or not has NOTHING to do with knowing what you're 'talking about! So if you're going to reply, at least do so intelligently.

"Xbox Fanboys roam here as if they are roaches in a washed up restaurant."

As do PS3 fanboys on the 360 forum. It ALWAYS happens, here is nothing special.

"I may be unregistered but at least i know what im talking about."

That's for OTHERS to decide. So please get up off your pompous a$$.

"Datnizzle is a registered user, i dont know for how long he has, but im pretty he has dealt with his fair share of ignorant fanboys himself, just like me."

And I've been around here long enough to know that Datnizzle is one of the biggest PS3 fanboys around here (and doesn't always login to post)! So please STFU.

For example, here's REGISTERED Datnizzle on QJ recently;

http://pc.qj.net/DiRT-Colin-McRae-video-review/pg/49/aid/95750

I've argued with Datnizzle here a number of times already, where he has shown his true fanboy colours on many occations. So in fact, I'M the one who knows what he's talking about.

And here, Datnizzle says the 360 games suck and that 360 gamers online are a$$holes, and yet that's alright for you, and yet I say NOTHING against the PS3 (and never do), and somehow you have a problem with me?

Pi$$ off you cowardly fanboy in denial.

# to stealth — Guest 2007-07-02 03:48

my only problem with my ps3 is the fact that there is a small selection of good games. don't make up stuff saying the ps3 has games when resistance though it is decent is nothing compared to gears of war or halo. i am really proud of my ps3's cell power kudos to the ps3 for that one and the fact that you can actually copy media to it and that it has a web browser

# LOL — Guest 2007-07-02 04:01

"BTW Gamer your post was a waste. Next write something other than arrows. Are you afraid someone will attack you and say your ignorant, well sorry but you ARE!"

Gamer simply agrees with me and that make's him ignorant?

My, you REALLY of full of yourself aren't you.

Anyway, thanks for showing yourself up to be yet another fanboy I can add to the 'idiots' list Stealth.

# Um to PSX — Guest 2007-07-02 04:22

Thats all well and good with your sad story. But the fact remains i have seen worse with xbox fanboys than ps3 fanboys. And believe me i dont care about the ps3 fanboys cause usually there right on some things. I care about ignorant fanboys who BS there to think there system is above all when if you think about its not. Given there failure rate i say there console does suck.

Also again nice try but again im complaining to you cause all you did was bash im and said nothing on how is wrong or bring up facts or points. So yea How about you PI$$ off and spare us with your whining like a small school girl

BTW i read that link of what he said and basically he's right on everything. Why comepare complete games to racing.

And why claim your game is the best when its multi? i can see your post is of non importance Thats for showing or even making read a waste of link. How about you read this:

http://blogs.ign.com/aerial_rave/2007/06/27/58585/Comments.aspx?blog+aerial_rave+entryid+58585

This guys isnt a faboy and he just destroys microsoft and exposes there Money grubbing ways. I can honestly say i agree with him on everything, Its quite funny honestly how ppl chose them over The real game consoles that has been around longer than MS, being nintendo and Sony. Oh and after reading this, you may want to consider leaving this site seeming how you don't know anything. I agree with Datnizzle more than you, Mister common sense and Shatterdome. BTW i literally pwned Shatterdome post on either this one or another topic.

Again im not a fanboy.

# to ... — Guest 2007-07-02 04:28

I never once brought up games. Though i do hate ppl bringing that part up.

Gears and halo are so over-rated in my book. But as a game i say its alright.

Good for you with your ps3, i hope your very satisfied with it as much as i am lol.

# Ah yes, the kid returns — Guest 2007-07-02 04:40

"But the fact remains i have seen worse with xbox fanboys than ps3 fanboys"

ALL fanboys are the same. There are no good fanboys and bad fanboys, there are no fanboys better or worse than the others, since how they behave depends on what's happening at the time. How fanboys are perceived depends on your own personal bias (which you're clearly biased toward the PS3, so comments from PS3 fanboys go unnoticed, or you agree with them, like Datnizzle here).

So like I said, I KNOW Datnizzle, I KNOW he's a PS3 fanboys, and his attack on the 360 and it's gamers only proves my point (which would have been obvious to all except fanboys seeking to defend Datnizzle).

" all you did was bash im and said nothing on how is wrong or bring up facts or points"

I clearly said why I attacked him, read it again.

BTW, I'm not here to defend the 360, I don't own one so why should I defend it? If you want to go on about MS and the 360, go ahead, but at the same time, I'm not going to say nothing when I see one fanboy attacking someone else for being a fanboy and then acts like the fanboy himself in the rest of his post.

"Again im not a fanboy."

Again, yes you are, quit the denial. Attacks on 360 games and 360 gamers is fine by you, and this fact together with your defence of a known fanboy, shows you are a fanboy, whether you like it or not.

# To PSX part two — Guest 2007-07-02 04:43

I ment to say demo not racing games on that ok thanks.

# Reflection before continuing... — Guest 2007-07-02 04:54

Firstly, I shouldn't have told you to pi$$ off, but then, that's the result of being told I don't know what I'm talking about and that I'm ignorant for calling a known fanboy (i.e. Datnizzle) a fanboy. You also attack Gamer in a similar way.

If you don't want to be considered a fanboy yourself, don't side with them. Don't defend them just because they say SOME things you agree with or SOME things you would like to here, and don't ignore fanboy remarks like "The games on the 360 suck, the players on live are a$$holes", because to do so means you agree with it, and if you do, then yes you're a fanboy too.

Besides, I would have agreed with Datnizzle's post if a) he stopped after attacking R Kelly and didn't launch his own attack on 360 games and gamers, and b) if it came from someone other than Datnizzle himself.

Like I said, R Kelly deserved to be attacked, so no way would I defend him for his PS3 remarks, but at the same time, you should defend Datnizzle for his 360 remarks in responce.

# Oops, Freudian slip? :) — Guest 2007-07-02 05:00

"you should defend Datnizzle for his 360 remarks in responce."

Of course, that should have been "...you shouldn't defend Datnizzle for his 360 remarks in responce."

# Funny — Guest 2007-07-02 05:01

You call me childish for coming here and say im bored but then the next 25 posts are all reactions to a stupid little post i made??? That is the definition of bored fanboy if my little comment cut you guys so deeply that you had to remove your faces from phill harrisons a55 to come here and insult some that loves the ps3 but is pissed at sony... i piss on all you retards.

# LOL — Guest 2007-07-02 05:50

I will defend him cause he's right. Given if you read that link of mine thats reason alone. And if you given everything to that fact that xbox isnt innovative all they do copy sony, and worry about competition while wii says screw you both and goes about there merry way making fun games and the wii remote and pave the way to something great. Sony has done the same since both sony and nintendo has been around longer. What has MS done thats innovative, itseems to me there console is garbage and all they care about is competing with sony. While sony has also been innovative by creating the cell processor by IBM and implementing blu-ray and such. Everything is new and different compared to the ps2. And whats different about bxox, not much the size is better and the controller is good but the buttons seems to be similar to Sony, just adding XYAB to them with colors.

And MS arent leaders they are just in the game industry for the piece of the pie, nothign more. And if that wasnt bad enough they pay developers money to make gamers for the, while developers make games for nintendo and sony case they know there games will rock on there console's will there own free will no bribery here.

And whats even worse than that is paying 50 million for two exclusive parts on GTAIV, im sorry are you afraid MS thats GTAIV on the sony console will be better than yours that you have to pay for exclusives downloads. Im pretty sure they will make some exclusives for sony since GTA is an PS Original.

The fact is MS doesnt even use there own features there known for and best at. But they care more about competition wow, they have sunk a new low in my book. So thats why im siding woth Datnizzle cause unlike most he understand the problems of MS. Fanboy or not he is definitely the smarter fanboy. There is nothing with being fanboys actually since tehy are good and bad, bad sprout out garbage and dont even say anything good about the console, XBL is the only thing good for MS. And good are ppl who Aren't ignorant fools like your self, and gamer. He cold at least used some words like "i agree with you there" i mean ^^^ is just a magnet for ignorance. But i guess you wouldn't understand your probably younger than me so yea TTYl i have just wasted my time talking to someone who isnt worth it. I would rather spend my time posting to Mister common sense, And Shatterdome than you.

# Any game console — Guest 2007-07-02 06:04

I assume by all you mean only the 360 Elite and the PS3 can, since none of the others have 1080p output over HDMI.

# That link is just a fanboy rant — Guest 2007-07-02 06:39

Hmmm, I tried to calm things down a little in my last post, looks like you're not interested. Like all fanboys, you only capable of fighting. So be it.

"I will defend him cause he's right. Given if you read that link of mine thats reason alone."

That link (once corrected because QJ changes many of the characters to '+'), doesn't prove anything other than it's someone's opinion of MS. You could find similar rants about Sony, but who cares, it should be your OWN opinion that counts.

However, the fact that you still defend comments which says 360 games suck shows you are truly a fanboy. And I notice you continue with dumb fanboy comments of your own in that post, so why the denial earlier. Like I said, you're a coward Shealth, a spineless boy who, like all fanboys, is unable to face the truth, not even about yourself.

I'll skip your poinitless mindless little rant (ever heard of paragraphs?) and I'll pick up from the following...

"And good are ppl who Aren't ignorant fools like your self, and gamer."

Go look in the mirror kid.

"He cold at least used some words like "i agree with you there" i mean ^^^ is just a magnet for ignorance."

LOL! You REALLY are STUPID aren't you! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID, CAN'T YOU READ? He said "Agreed PSX" in the SUBJECT, and added "^^^" in the comment box. How is that any different from what you're suggesting? Seems you looked in the comment box and no further, and YOU'RE calling HIM ignorant? LOL!

"But i guess you wouldn't understand your probably younger than me"

Actually I'm older than most people here, so I'm sure I'm older than you kid.

"so yea TTYl i have just wasted my time talking to someone who isnt worth it."

And I've wasted my time posting talking to a moron, especially one with poor reading skills.

So see you later spineless fanboy in denial (I knew I was right the first time).

# err — Guest 2007-07-02 07:19

err.. guys.. this is just an article.. get a life.. wat's the point if either one console fails? not as if the world will come crashing down and kill your balls.. phucking fanboys..

# Hmm... — N3570R 2007-07-02 07:31

One thing I'm kinda bummed about with the PS3 is that it has all of this processing power... But only 512MB of memory.

# To PSX — Guest 2007-07-02 07:41

Im ignoring your post since it was nothing but an eye sore to read. So how old are you seriously. You claim to be older. Lots of ppl said that about me and they were 3 years younger. Your no different. I gave hard facts about the xbox you still have't said why there innovative so i take that as im right(as usual) I give facts, and if you look up what that gamer said it holds true to that. MS is a money grubbing company looking to make you pay 100s of stuuff you dont need. Or even not part of the system it self. Please dont think for once secodn your better than me again tell me whats great about ps3 or MS and maybe i will consider you as informative.

# LOL here is R-kelly again — Guest 2007-07-02 08:01

Why are you on here again, seriously have your post from earlier how Moronic you are. STFO of the ps3 forums, if you can't get passed that what your getting out of the ps3 is actually a steal and the lack of games which is not a problem in a day or so, than your not loyal to sony, your just a ignorant xbox fanboy who gets it kicks at pretending to to be a sony fan. The console doesnt determine how great a system will be in the end. Also has it even occured to you that they Dvs are complaining how hard it is to make games on there console when they said the same about the ps2. And look how great that turned out. Dvs like SE, Team Ninja and a few others actually claim this system isnt hard to work on. Its only lazy devs who says this. And besides Devs only feel good when they make a game to a console they put hard effort to make and watch it sell crazy. Lazy devs should not be apart part of the game industry.

And sony pisses on you as well, oh wait i forgot R-Kelly has already done this to you. Never come back to this forum again.

# whoa — Guest 2007-07-02 08:23

Are you on crack, crystal meth or some drug that we haven't heard about, Sony has 60GB internal hard-drive not 512, where in the h.e.l.l are you getting that from, unless your talking about the wii system.

I truly hope your kidding or its a typo cause if your not, im ashamed to even be reading your comment let alone post a response to it.

# To Stealth (my turn for a long post I guess) — Guest 2007-07-02 08:39

Wow so much has happened since I left this thread, but there's one thing that puzzles me Stealth.... What's your problem with my post?

Why is saying "Agreed PSX" a big problem for you and how does that make me ignorant? How is your version of ""i agree with you there" any different from what I've already said?

I noticed you avoided answering this question when PSX asked you in his post.

From everything I read so far, I continue to agree with PSX. He hasn't thrown any insults at Sony or the PS3 or MS or the 360, but you have, so has R Kelly and so has Datnizzle. So for me, it's quite obvious that PSX is by far the more mature gamer here.

The only reason you attacked PSX (and myself) is because you treated PSX's attack on Datnizzle as an attack on yourself (for obvious reasons). And yet again, despite all your continued attacks against MS and the 360, not once has PSX said anything against Sony or the PS3, and he hasn't even jumped to the defence of MS and the 360, which you seem desperate for him to do. So again, he has proved himself to be a far more mature and sensible gamer than yourself.

>" Please dont think for once secodn your better than me again tell me whats great about ps3 or MS and maybe i will consider you as informative."

He doesn't need to, it's plain for everyone to see that he is more mature and more intelligent than you and doesn't feel the need to say anything bad against Sony or MS, making him a TRUE gamer, unlike biased gamers like you, R Kelly, Datnizzle and other fanboys.

So go ahead, attack me again, but like PSX, I'm not going to get drawn into the stupid kids game of console wars which you are desperate to play.

# Agreed Gamer — Guest 2007-07-02 09:04

^^^

# mr. common sense you dumbass — Guest 2007-07-02 09:06

shut up. you are such a nerd. go get more pimples and jerk off in a corner.

# Did you see what I did there :D lol — Guest 2007-07-02 09:12

^^^

oh no, i did it again, i must really be ignorant for putting a comment in the subject. lol!

i dont know why you guys are wasting your time with stealth, since its obvious hes just a fanboy. what made me laugh is watching stealth trying over and over again to pull psx into a war between the 360 and ps3 and seeing him get more fustrated as psx wouldnt take the bait. lol! its so obvious and yet he thinks hes being smart. you guys are right, hes a kid, a dumb kid, so dont waste your time with him. lol! go talk to someone who matters and leave him with his fanboy fantasies.

# what? — Guest 2007-07-02 09:24

"Sony has 60GB internal hard-drive not 512"

ofgs, hes talking about RAM you fool, a hard-drive is not RAM, its completely different. the 360 and ps3 have 512MB of RAM each, go look it up. after this and your posts earlier, you're an embarrassment stealth, you really are.

# Uhh... — Shatterdome 2007-07-02 09:56

Well I am basing my opinion from articles on Anandtech and arstechnica of VERY in depth breakdowns of each part of the 360 + PS3 design. Not just their interpretation of the numbers given by each company, but they actually get in there and find out exactlly what is what and then with their expertise, deduce it's real world capabilities in gaming.

The general conclusion is that although PS3 has some more raw horsepower in the Cell, it's not the kind of processing used for games...also there are bottle necks in the system that even though the main bus transfer speed is higher then 360, they are not able to even fill the pipe 60%.

They agree that the more elegently designed 360 will run games better, and with all parts designed to work together, it CAN and does use the entirety of the bandwidth on it's system bus....

That's the thing, bottlenecks.....

One guy makes a good analogy of the PS3 being a drag racer and the 360 a high end sports car.....the drag racer has more horsepower and top speed in theory, but when put into pratical use, say on even a simple oval track, it will fail miserably, however the less powerful/speedy car that it's overall made better will succeed....

The Cell is a very specialised processor, this is what people need to realise....and its specialty is not gaming...

# Stealth — Shatterdome 2007-07-02 10:02

No wonder you think PS3 is all high and mighty....when something like this get's you confused....

Memory when talking about PC's and PC like devices is always RAM as that is in effect the devices "memory"

You are thinking of "Storage"

So my response above where I'm telling you to go read 12+ page technical breakdowns of the systems....ya, disregard that stealth because you won't even understand any of it and will be left in the dark forever mumbling "ps3 is the most powerful console on earth...." over and over....you say it enough you will beleive it...

Maybe go start first with some basic technical manuals, get your definitions of basic things down first, then you can maybe join in the discussion...

# Just because: — Guest 2007-07-02 13:04

a console has more power doesn't mean it will come out on top in the long run. Look at the last gen consoles, the xbox had more power then the PS2 or GC, but it didn't come out on top. Also the ps3 is set to be on the market for 8 years compared to the 3 years the Xbox 360 still has left.

The next xbox will have more power probably then the ps3, a blue ray or HD DVD drive depending on which one survives and wins the format wars.And will be cheaper then the ps3 was at launch, probably 400 dollars again. But even this advantage once released wont mean it will beat the consoles out at that point.

# Enough!!!!!! — Guest 2007-07-02 14:18

Enough my fellow ps3 friends and Xbox 360 brothers, we should all gather around and enjoy wat we have instead of barking at each over b/c of two items.... lets sit together drink sum tea and sing kumbye ya in front of a camp fire and laugh at the miserable nintendo wii.... they wish the had fanboys like u to defend them but they dont so y dont we stop, think, look back, and enjoy the beauty of nintend wii crumbling down like scums they r

# You're the dumbass — Guest 2007-07-02 17:43

You know, if the Cell "sucks so much" like you claim, it's odd that it's able to perform so well. I think IBM knows a helluva lot more about making processors than you do, so shut the hell up and stop acting like M$'s personal *****.

Oh, and by the way, the Cell is OCTO-CORE. YES. EIGHT CORES. I don't know where the hell you think you got this "single core" ***** from, but you're WRONG, so STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF YOU IMBECILE. Just because the cores aren't as general-purpose (i.e. good at nothing, mediocre at everything) as a normal CPU does not mean that they're not cores.

Idiot.

# Interesting — Guest 2007-07-02 18:47

"what made me laugh is watching stealth trying over and over again to pull psx into a war between the 360 and ps3 and seeing him get more fustrated as psx wouldnt take the bait."

Exactly right.

This is why I knew he was a kid, because all he wanted to do was argue about the consoles when the discussion was actually about fanboys, not consoles. I have nothing against any console, I just don't like fanboys, and yet he could not understand that.

He even boasts about a victory he THINKS he had over Shatterdome elsewhere on QJ, which is something no adult would feel the need to do. The fact that he relies on someone elses blog to make 'his' point (again console wars) and thinks it's proof rather than opinion, again shows his lack of maturity. He attacked Gamer for doing nothing wrong and to cap it all, he shows his complete lack of knowledge when he demonstrated that he doesn't even know the difference between RAM and HDD storage (elsewhere in this thread) and does so in a way where he thinks he's the one who's right.

So yes PS34ME, Shealth is a kid, he acts like one, thinks like one and is as naive as you could get. I have nothing against kids however, I've had some great discussions with kids online over the years, but Stealth is not a kid who is mature for his age and therefore can hold an intelligent discussion online. Instead, he has a lot of growing up to do. :|

# yes — Morbidly 2007-07-03 12:13

a common enemy, i think we can all put down our arrows for a brief moment to laugh at the gimmicky wiidiots, before we get back to what this post is all about and thats that the ps3 is the most poweful thing THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN!!!!

# lol PSX — Guest 2007-07-05 08:00

Whats your age

# ... — Guest 2007-07-06 09:58

What annoys me is people who say the 'PS3 sucks' instead of actually giving it a fair assessment.

Sony did not just make a Blu-Ray player with a simple console inside because the games industry is worth far more to sony than that.

Blu-Ray games of Blu-Ray proportions will be out for the PS3 in the future and it wont be just full of video. I have PS2 games that come on 2 DVD's so why not?

The Cell IS a very powerful processor and no, the single unit in the PS3 alone is not the only Cell running the hardware mentioned in the article above! It of course has many many Cells but they did choose Cells and if they chose other processors, then more would have been required and the cost would have been greater.

If both the 360 and PS3 were squeezed to capacity, the graphic quality would look better on the 360 but the content, diversity and scale would be better on PS3.

# I AM GAY — Mister Common Sense 2007-07-08 15:07

I AM GAY AN IM AN XBOT. PLZ SHOOT ME.

PS. PS3 RULES ALL XBOX SUX ASS

# 8th SPU is kept for the redundancy — Guest 2007-07-11 08:23

That means if any one of the 7 processors get sick than the 8th processor will automatically be activated and start working instead.....

# SHUT IT — Guest 2007-07-18 18:47

get your head our of your ass and admit that the PS3 is better than the 360...YOUR JUST MAD CUZ THE WAGES FROM YOUR MOMS JOB AS A HOOKER CANT PAY FOR A PS3 SO GO GET LAID, STOP ****ING YOUR MOM AND MOVE OUT OF HER BASEMENT YOU INBRED PIECE OF ****

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