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Total HD delayed to 2008 |
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It was earlier reported that Total HD, Warner Home Video's dual-format
disc which unites Blu-ray and HD-DVD in one two-sided medium will
launch late this year. However, Studio VP Dan Miron now says it will
probably come in 2008.He says that the company recognizes that there's a market for both formats and there definitely is shelf space for their dual-format SKU. Ultimately, it was decided that they'll come out with it "when it's right" and "when it makes sense."
"There is no expiration date on the viability of this concept, so weÂ’re not in a rush to do it," affirms Steve Nickerson, Warner's senior VP for Marketing.
The rationale behind the product, says Miron, is to try and avoid saturating the market with different formats that carry the same content. With Total HD, not only is it universally applicable, it's also one less SKU to sell for the company.
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They say they are waiting, well waiting jsut to make sure to drop the project because until then one media will have been more successful (I'm not a Sony fanboy, but I'm seeing BR prevail, to me it doesn't matter anyway, I still have and buy DVDs until that craze is over)
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As an example check the differences in the Audio of pretty much any release on both formats, BD gets HALF bandwidth!!! Second to that what about all the extras that are had by the HD-DVD owners in films such as: 300, Blood Diamond, Fast/Furious2 etc. yup all missing from BluRay.
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And stop dreaming u cheap ho', BD won, and in 2008, everyone will forget wtf this pile of ***** HDDVD was
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So while on your 'cheap Panasonic' system you might not hear any difference, those people with equipment to warrant HD do notice a huge difference between these audio mixes.
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...gets the Dolby Digital 5.1 surround (640kbps) treatment on Blu-ray, which in typical fashion is a slight downgrade from the HD DVD version which receives 1.5 Mbps. That's a real shame (and inexcusable, if you ask me)...
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Seems to me to make the most sense. How else would you explain the technology. The article link is right here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
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To your comment: " IF.... they decide to make the PS3 a game console....
you know, by releasing games?"
I guess you think the PS3 library I see in Blockbuster and Walmart and Best Buy and Circuit City exists only in the mind of a PS3. I guess you think that all multiplatform games are being released only on the 360? I guess you think the multiplatform title "The Darkness" released on 26th June was released only on the 360?
Talk about a childish fanboy! You try to sound adult, but are sounding more and more like an illiterate teenager everyday, who wasn't able to afford a PS3 (understandable , since it is expensive) and is really desperate to defend his/her purchase.
I've called you out on your illiterate, childish, and fanboyish comments several times, but always you fail to respond. Is it that you are afraid of answering rationally?
Waiting for your reply,
MTK
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Thanks for replying at last!
" I guess multiplatform games count, even though they are much worse on the PS3."
That would be your opinion (and that of tried-and-true XBox fanatics), but that is not necessarily true. Oblivion, for example, is way better on the PS3. Before you think that I'm just saying that because I have a PS3, let me state first that I have both a 360 (bought Mar 2006) and a PS3 (bought Feb 2007). I have the Collector's Edition of Oblivion for the 360 (bought it at release) and have the patch for the 360 version of Oblivion installed. I also rented the PS3 version of Oblivion, and I can state, based upon what I saw with my own eyes, that the PS3 version loaded way faster, had much greater draw distances and (with the right TV mode being set) looked much better overall than the patched (+ unpatched) 360 version. It also played smoother (in the 360 version, the Kvatch battle was a nightmare, with framerate dropping down to a slideshow). I don't know why the Splinter Cell port was crap, as I don't know enough about the technology involved to provide a logical estimate of what happened during the port. As for other multiplatform titles, I'm playing the PS3 version of "The Darkness" right now, and let me tell you, it beats anything I've seen so far on the PS3 and 360 (except maybe "Gears" in some parts). So I would hardly say that PS3 versions suck. That is highly biased, to a fanboy level.
"But why bother?"
Why? Well, not everybody prefers just the 360, you know. Have you ever heard of "To each his own"? I mean, there are people (like me, I guess :) ) who would like the best of both worlds and so have bought both consoles. And, well, whether a game is a 360-to-PS3 port or a PS3-to-360 port is decided by the developing studio, and not by the gamers or the fanboys. Also, PS3 also has several (what looks like superb at the moment) exclusives coming in July (Heavenly Sword, I think), August (Lair), September (Ratchet + Clank), and beyond. And if you say that only 360 exclusives are worth buying, I would call that incredibly blindly + irrationally prejudiced. Sure, the 360 has good exclusives coming, but so has the PS3. So I wouldn't go so far as to call the 360 the best choice for games. It is the best choice for games "at present", but who has seen the future? Especially with some of the PS3 exclusives coming out, I wouldn't disregard of the PS3 turning the tables.
"dual format players are the way to go for movies"
I agree, but that's too expensive, and given a choice, I would rather go with Blu-ray. My reason for this choice is simple: Given the nearly identical high level of video/audio quality offered by Blu-ray and HD-DVD, I would prefer the one with the more space. Sure, Blu-ray players are more expensive comparatively, but with the PS3 console, I got a Console and a Blu-ray player (believe me, the reason for my getting the PS3 WAS that it was offering both, a gaming machine and a next-gen-format player).
"PC is the way for internet, media, file transfers disc burning, etc"
Agreed. I think browsing the Net on a Console is silly and not truly necessary, but that's just my opinion and others' opinions may differ.
"The PS3 is good for nothing."
That is singularly the most useless, irrational, biased, illiterate and fanboyish argument that you've provided in this post so far. But hey, you are entitled to your opinion, and if that's what you think, and you are not willing to even consider anybody else's position, there is no use debating with you.
But since you've seen fit to giving your opinion, let me offer mine: The PS3 is technologically more advanced and offers far more to the Gamer as well as someone looking to get a Media Hub than the 360 ever can. Even so, I would say that I do not want any console to destroy the other's market completely, as a monopoly is bad for future innovation (MS has proven that in the past when it unethically won the browser wars. In fact, the advent of Fire
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"The PS3 is good for nothing."
That is singularly the most useless, irrational, biased, illiterate and fanboyish argument that you've provided in this post so far. But hey, you are entitled to your opinion, and if that's what you think, and you are not willing to even consider anybody else's position, there is no use debating with you.
But since you've seen fit to giving your opinion, let me offer mine: The PS3 is technologically more advanced and offers far more to the Gamer as well as someone looking to get a Media Hub than the 360 ever can. Even so, I would say that I do not want any console to destroy the other's market completely, as a monopoly is bad for future innovation (MS has proven that in the past when it unethically won the browser wars. In fact, the advent of Firefox was the only reason that Microsoft was forced to innovate Internet Explorer after 6 long years of stagnation).
So, in the end, if I were to pick a winner (based upon the black-or-white world you live in), I would pick the PS3 over the 360.
Anytime.
Regards,
MTK
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Common Sense may be the biggest MS fanboy around here, and I agree, sometimes it DOES seem as if he is being paid by Microsoft to put the PS3 down in front of potential PS3-buying public (although I don't think this is the case). Even so, he is entitled to his opinion, just as much as you are entitled to yours.
Anyway, wouldn't you rather prefer to be the calmer and saner voice of reason (offering sure reasons and irrefutable logic) rather than just be another PS3 fan?
No offense to you cdn, all I'm trying to say is, you (or other Sony fans) don't have to go down to Common Sense's level. Otherwise there will be no difference between him and PS3 fans.
This was not intended to offend you, but if you were, I apologize.
Regards,
MTK
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I guess you are right. Even so, all children do grow up sometimes.
Anyway, sometimes I wonder what's the sense in arguing over something so trivial as a next-gen gaming console or a next-gen media format, when there seem to be much more worrying things looming over the horizon?
I refer to the US administration's neocon policies and their use of the terrorism Trojan Horse (as far as I can see, based upon international news and not just the highly biased Fox and CNN networks, among others, this is just a ploy to keep the US populace reined in, and an argument to use abroad) to push their Orwellian policies in the US and to pursue their corporate-driven imperialistic agendas abroad, which have the potential to very well push the world to the brink of an apocalyptic scenario.
The 360 and PS3 won't seem so very important then, will they? :)
Regards,
MTK
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Referring to your question "You're not a real debator, are you?", the answer is no :) .
I'm just a Software Engineer working in a large Consultancy firm (not a Game Developer :) ).
And Thanks for the compliment.
Regards,
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Regarding your comment "Anyway, it sucks as a game console, which is what Playstation is supposed to be, and traditionally has always been. I'm not sure why sony had to mess with success, but it bit them in the ass."
I will say this about you: Your ability to blindly bash the PS3 in the face of all visible evidence (I mean I've played several games on the PS3 and the graphics for the non-ported games - other than Oblivion - are excellent). It seems as if you've also managed to successfully ignore all the good games that are coming out on the PS3 in the coming months.
Simultaneously, you've also managed to ignore everything that's bad about the 360 (all the technical issues that've been discussed ad nauseam on the Net), the 250 dollars extra (for the ability to be able to play on XBL on weekdays), the lack of an HDD (which will always cripple Developers creating games for the 360 - don't bother saying that many people have already bought an HDD: you know as well as I do that Developers have to code for the Least Common Denominator to be able to pander to the largest audience, in this case the HDD-devoid 360). And don't bother mentioning that the 250 dollars (in 5 years) for XBL is optional. The ability to play on XBL is something every single 360 fanboy like you keeps harping on, and so is something that HAS to be counted in the cost of the 360. So the cost of the 360 is 499 (Core model + 5 yr subscription to XBL). Not much cheaper than the PS3, is it? As for you, I remember you mentioning that you've bought an HDD. So, considering that you are an XBox fanboy, I would say you've probably spent a total of nearly 599 on your 360 to make it playable the way you want it to.
So let's see where we are:
360: A really good gaming machine, with lots of hidden costs and buggy hardware, sub-par DVD playback (don't bother denying it - DVD playback on the 360 is worse than even some of the cheaper DVD Players: if you tried it, you must have noticed) and several good games in its past, present and future.
PS3: A really good gaming machine, a true next-gen media player, with very few hidden costs (other than an HDMI cable), excellent DVD and Blu-ray playback, reliable hardware, also works as a true media hub, AND is a really good protein-folding machine and a few good games in its past, some really good games in its present and future.
In my book, that makes the PS3 a better bargain.
Your turn,
MTK
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I was 50/50 with both consoles until Metal Gear Solid was announced for the xbox 360. That was was a headshot to the ps3.
The next big bullet wound to the ps3 is the fact that the new GTA will have new DLC and expansion packs only on the xbox 360. The ps3 will not get them since microsoft bought them already.
I am glad I have both formats of HD, but I don't mind dvd games. Heck the xbox 360 has the better graphics than the ps3 in almost every multiplatform game.
I don't mean to bash it, but I am throwing my 2 cents out there since I own both consoles.
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The 2 consoles are so similar in graphics that it is hard to tell the difference unless you compare side by side. It's still hard even then.
If you have not bought one of the consoles yet go for the xbox 360. It is cheaper right now and has the most exclusive games. Why not go for the cheap one if they both look the same? :)
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And as i dont use it to play any HD movies i think that if they release this thing the war will be about the prices of the BD players vs the HD-DVD ones!!! I think thats kind of cool...
Even ps3 MIGHT become cheaper if this was the format used in movies. I don't like it right now but people who like it its a good format to support.
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I guess you each other envy a little of each others console or whatever
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http://www.metalgearsolid.org/show_features.php?id+1162
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To Mister Makes No Sense:
You sound more jealous and sad every day. I really feel bad for you. You tell us every day how bad that the PS3 is and how your XBOX 360, a godsend no less, is the greatest system in the world. If this were the case then wouldn't you play your 360 more often instead of hanging out here badmouthing what you don't have. If your console is so great why don't you go play with it.
At this point you have become less of a nuisance than you used to be and have become more of a sad, pathetic, and extremely jealous lout. Your transformation has been nothing short of amazing!
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They rush software to the market early and they did the same with the 360. There only concern was to beat Sony to the table with their (finished?) console in an attempt to flood the market with their cheaper console. That is why there is no HDMI, that is why the red ring of death problem is so well documented on the internet, and that is why I won't buy the console just because it is cheaper.
I could buy a Honda or a Hyundai too. I am not going to buy a Hyundai just because it's cheaper. You almost always get what you paid for and this is another prime example.
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the online service blows thank God is free. and still to this day their games do not even compare to the games on the 360. And what the F''uck MTK are you the Dr. phil gaming. You should come out on the Oprah winfrey show you F@g.
i think you just got owned by common.
360 for life.
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no games to try your precious bluetooth. i think you hase to see the truth and that no matter how many game the PEEs3 gets in the future it will always fall short. maybe for the peeS4 maybe...
just because it has bluray you PeeS3 fan boys think you have a winner. i think you got a weener because you still not having as much fun as i'm having with my 360.
i'll get a wii before a PeeS3.
So all the megnifently beautiful eloquent not to mention g@y word that MTK said don;t mena ***** if you're not having fun and have to go over you're friends house to play his 360.
peace
one...
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Everyone has an opinion but if you don't have the skills to let us know your opinion then nobody will care what you have to say.
I see that you didn't mention wi-fi. You don't really have an answer for that one do you? You also failed to mention the lack of an HDMI jack on the 360. I guess that one really struck a nerve with you. Apparently you can't respond with intelligence to that one either! You tell me that I don't have any games for my precious bluetooth. What world do you live on because bluetooth doesn't play games in this one. Bluetooth is for connectivity, you dote.
I didn't even mention BD and yet you do. The lack of that one on an XBOX 360 must really bother you because I didn't even bring it up. You did!
Go right ahead and buy a Wii. I really could care less because one more Wii in the world will not hurt me but having an immature lout that repeatedly refers to homosexuality is not someone that I want to call a fellow PS3 owner. Your childish rants and references to "happy" people is disgusting, childish, and without need. Your use of the "@" sign is proof that you are the same person from above. You can't even hide your identity effectively is there anything that you are good at?
I guarantee that my PS3 gets used more than your 360 when you take into account the time I spend streaming music to it, playing games, and watching BD movies on it. On top of that if your 360 is so much MORE fun to play WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Learn to speak English and spell then come back. Until then go enjoy your 360. Just don't leave it turned on for too long it may overheat.
This post sounds a little fanboyish, something I try to avoid unless talking to an XBOT, but you asked for it and are one! If you would just go play your 360 the whole world would be a better place. At least for those of us that enjoy sanity and listen to the voice of reason.
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So a technologically inferior system that will be fixed in "time" means that you will have to purchase ANOTHER 360...hhmmm sounds like a great you get deal there (sarcasm)
"I could care less about other peoples' problems because I think most of them result from poor ventilation and mistreatment. If you take care of it, system failure is pretty rare."
You just proved everything that EVERYONE has been saying about you for the last few months with this comment. There is well documented PROOF everywhere about the absolutely terrible engineering that went into that system, and you STILL (blindly) won't admit to it.
"XBOX live is much better in every way than PSN and is worth a yearly subscription fee which is about $0.14 a day. The communication, unified friends list, and speed is excellent. Far more games are online enabled and do not depend on the developer to support the server. I can go back and play a 5 year old game online if I want to."
Whether or not YOU feel it is better is not the point that is an opinion...what is fact is you STILL won't admit the 360 costs more to own to get the same experience of online play than the PS3. Plain and simple math
PS3 + $600 + Tax
360 + $400 + Tax + $250 Live
I even put the lowest price Non HDD model but I am sure people with true Common Sense can see how it really adds up with even more "not needed necessities" the 360 offers like wifi, chargers, HDD etc.
"The XBOX 360 has a superior GPU, along with unified memory architecture allowing it to use as much of the 512MB system memory it needs from the CPU."
It's so "superior" it breaks and has to be fixed in order to even work....
"Only Sony convinced you game consoles are supposed to be movie players anyway."
So why did MS rush out another "not needed necessity" with the HD-DVD if they didn't believe it was needed...oh wait they did say it wasn't needed and then STILL came out with one.
"I've only spent $400 on my 360 + a $60 cooling fan upgrade. It's unfair to count XBOX live costs because it's an upgrade over PSN."
You are amazing, when something is needed that would add to the cost of the PS3 it's okay to add it but when the same applies to the 360 it doesn't? Definition + Hypocrite
"The only thing one could possibly find wrong with the XBOX is the hardware failure issues, and like I said, it's temporary."
Yep...about 2 years and counting "temporary". What a great way to treat it's customers by selling them faulty hardware and saying "It is the best system available"....
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