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The DVD war will be decided by gamers

Posted Oct 15, 2006 at 5:08PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360, Wii Tags: gaming accessories, Microsoft, Sony
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The format wars will be ended by gamersOver at The Brownsville Herald, Kevin Garcia's written an interesting article on how the war of the DVD formats will end. According to him, the end of the battles between Microsoft's HD-DVD and Sony's Blu-ray will be ushered in by the hands of gamers like ourselves.

Historically speaking, consumers have always been the ones with the final say on who lives and dies in the Darwinian process of technological advancement. Before the advent of the disc format wars, battles in the home entertainment industry occurred between the VHS and Betamax tape formats. While the Betamax had better quality playback, the VHS could store more on each tape.

Consumers chose quantity over quality that time, but you never know how future wars in the format industry turn out.

In this case, the war is a little different because of the timetable involved. If it were simply a matter of quantity over quality, Blu-ray would, hypothetically, win out because it can store a lot more data than the HD-DVD. One thing going for HD-DVD, however, is that it's already more ingrained in the public consciousness, since it's seen more exposure than the Blu-ray due to the Xbox 360's release a year ago. The players for each will also be important, as the Xbox 360, while reportedly less powerful, is still cheaper than the upcoming PlayStation 3.

The wild card for this event, however, will be Nintendo's Wii, since it's adopted neither format. This means that while the format wars will be decided by two consoles, there are three hardware types gunning for the top spot in the console wars instead.

The only good thing is that we, the gamers, will have the greatest say on which format will gain supremacy, because we're the ones who will eventually choose the hardware that supports one format over the other. The question now is, which one will you choose, and why?



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# Just a notedekarguy 2006-10-15 18:13
While the Xbox 360 will be able to play HD-DVDs (eventually through an add-on) nobody really knows which will be cheaper 360HD or PS3



My guess is they will cost the same, heh

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# duhGuest 2006-10-15 19:10
i could have told you that... lol! and the fact that 360 took off hd-dvd for games, only hurt hd-dvd... if i was toshiba i would have forced them to use it for games...

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# hmmGuest 2006-10-15 20:21
i choose neither, cuz my dvd player works just fine!

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# BothGuest 2006-10-15 20:34
Both will win, with both formats we win!



Fony need Blu-Ray to win, but I believe Fony need to learn a lesson and sdtop lying.



As a bonus it's already been proven that HD-DVD offers better image quality over Blu-Ray and considering the players are cheaper aswell as the fact that Fony have a habbit to produce faulty optical drives I see a win for HD-DVD even though I want both formats to offer goods.

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# It all the sameGuest 2006-10-15 21:02
You'll never know

With Blu-ray there more game play and plus no one can tell the difference between HD-DvD and Blu-Ray. Games are making more then movies now a days.



So there both even

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# wowGuest 2006-10-16 00:18
its a fact that hd-dvd has better quality huh?.... obviosly you listen to your little brother when he talks about tech.... my advice to you is dont listen to him.... as he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about....... they both have the same quality as of now... the reason why blu-ray didnt have supreme quality at first is because with the codec they were using the 25 gig stroage space wasnt enough so the quality was downgraded to fit it on a single layer disc... but seeing as now we have dual layer 50 gig disks...... the quality of a blu-ray movie is the same if not better then that of hd-dvd....(notice im not bashing either ps3 or 360)

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# ...Guest 2006-10-16 00:19
Here we go again, first they said it will be decided by the porn industry, oh but now it is the gamers, lol.

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# This is like DVD + / -Guest 2006-10-16 00:32
It hard to have format war these day. The tech is not that much different. I see dual players the winner; like in the DVD + / - war! Why may you ask because I don't want half a HD movie collection. One hot movie is going to blueray , one hot movie going to HD DVD... As a smart consumer what am I going to buy a hybrid machine for all the great hd movies. Of course I myself is like most of a the usa still don't have an HD tv yet (working on it) so the really doesn't matter. Here my question if 1080p is going to be the true HD why can I only find 3 models?

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# HD-DVDGuest 2006-10-16 00:33
360 won't be able to play games off of the HD-DVD addon. Its more of just an addon to watch movies in HD-DVD. Big mistake. If the 360 came stock with a HD-DVD player, and sold for the same price, HD-DVD would win the media storage wars. Toobad sony actually made one correct decision for once.

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# erm...Guest 2006-10-16 03:00
As JJ said the 360 wont play games on HD DVD!!! SO that renders this artical useless.



Also the public have never decided which format to choose. It's all down to marketing. Sony buggered up Betamax despite being clearly better. Longer tape times would have followed.



Mini Disc was mis-marketed as a playback format when the huge recording/editing benefits should have been pushed.



DVD-A and SACD was just a mess so no-one went with any of them.



Same with BR and HD DVD. It's a mess now and it will be a mess for a long time. Consumers cant choose the format cos all the films are on different formats. If your two fave films are on two formats what the hell do you do? Stay away is what they'll do.



PS3 will help BR no-end but Hollywood should have put a stop to this mess. They did with DVD when different formats were competing then. Also Sony and Toshiba should sorted it too. There may be dual formats rumoured, but last I heard Sony and Toshiba have forbbiden those, so who knows. Even if we do get dual format players, having two formats that basically do the same thing is insane.



Games and gamers will choose the format my arse!!!

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# About time...ezduplication 2006-10-16 03:09
As a duplicator we projected this last month on our own blog. Since then Sony has had nothing but recalls and delays. Quality vs quantity will be the question. Along with the unreasonable pricing of the disc's, the continual effort to block "any" if all possible copying efforts, burn-speed is still primative.



Only gamers and game makers show any sign or reason why the battle even has to take place. Consumers are getting smarter. No body is running out an getting the lastest, greatest anymore, except the beloved gamer....

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# 1080p and dual formatNOSFERATU 2006-10-16 04:33
You can only find 3 models because 1080p is new to the industry. Over the next year most highend HDTVs will have 1080p.



And about the dual format players.... that is what I will be waiting for.

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# those basterdsdeanspeed 2006-10-16 04:40
I'm not buy either of them until the war is over.

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# I have a HDTV...Guest 2006-10-16 05:01
but don't feel the need to go out and buy either of these players! I have a 360 and therefore don't want a PS3 (as the same games are eventually going to be released on both minus the small percentage of exclusives), so bluray is out of the question. I don't want the HD-DVD add on either!



I am perfectly happy with DVD and don't want to have to buy all my DVD's again in the newer format! Also, the upscalers are pretty lame so I don't think i'll even bother gettin a DVD player with that built in either!



I imagine alot of people feel the same way! They are trying to create a market that no one wants or needs!

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# Both Still NewCHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2006-10-16 05:21
Just wait for a real test to be done.

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# DVD Wins!Guest 2006-10-16 07:35
I'm sticking with good ole' DVD's. This whole "this movie on Bluray / this one will go on HD-DVD" is bull.



THE LEEP BETWEEN DVD's and BR/HD-DVD's isn't even big enough to call it a leep.

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# Brownsville HeraldGuest 2006-10-16 08:02
so im wondering how you got the article from a little place known from brownsville, Tx??..just wondering cause im from there!..

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# Brownsville HeraldGuest 2006-10-16 08:04
so im wondering how you got the article from a little place known from brownsville, Tx??..just wondering cause im from there!..

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# LoLGuest 2006-10-16 08:34
who knows maybe sony with have a HD-DVD add on...LoL

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# the new formatsVietone 2006-10-16 09:24
The leap between DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-ray is significant.



If you dont have a TV to compare them then dont even try and sound like you know what they look like.



I for one own a LCD 20" Computer monitor and downloaded several movies in 720p and 1080i flavors and they look amazingly better then DVD.



But where it truly shines is on my 100" projector screen. You definitly see where DVD fails to deliver in terms of quality. I watched LOTR ROTK on DVD. Then I watched the 1080i downloaded version which was over 14GB and it looked amazing. You get to see soo many details you never saw before and it was that much more enjoyable.



Blu-ray is gonna win the battle when the PS3 is widespread. Just like how the PS2 helped DVD, it will do the same with Blu-ray. HD-DVD and Blu-ray cost the same, yet blu-ray delivers more space. Its also much harder to copy. So thats why movie camps like Blu-ray, to protect their property. Thats why the porn industry backs blu-ray as well.

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#    Guest 2006-10-16 11:29
Quality comes with a price, i prefer quality that may last long than an HD DVD that will be obsolete sooner



Go for it Blue ray !!

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# Neither format will winGuest 2006-10-16 12:02
Unfortunately for both companies, neither format will eventually "win". By the time consumers make a choice and a true format is determined to be the standard, Digital Distribution will already have started to get more and more mainstream for movies (and HD movies) as well as On Demand services and much higher capacity DVR (which will become commonplace).

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# Ermnightshade15 2006-10-16 13:57
The 360 may of been around $200 more for a HD-DVD drive that wasnt even commercialized yet... Not a big mistake, practical. The amount of people who use HD-TVs arnt too high, I am the ONLY person out of all of my friends (Cept my uncle) who DOESNT have a HDTV. If you checked QJ earlier, a company "CLAIMED" they can shrink game file sizes ~70% i believe. So why go next gen storage mediums when DVD works just fine? Less $$ usage. You have to remember when the 360 was released, now things have changed quite a bit, But DVD will still be on top for quite some time now.

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# >>ERM correctionnightshade15 2006-10-16 13:59
"I am the ONLY person out of all of my friends (Cept my uncle) who DOESNT have a HDTV"

I am the only person out of my friends who DO have a HDTV.

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# wowGuest 2006-10-16 15:39
only 3 modles?.... i can name 5 modles off the top of my head... i work at cicuit city and sell tv's......... and to everyone that says, you cant tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p is a fool........ and a fanboy.... no one releases technoligy that is useless or has no advantages........ and 1080p is much more smoother, and crisp then 1080i......... you wont notice if you just walk by and say yea ok...... but if you work there like me and see the tv's every damn day you will see the difference and it is a clear big diffference......... just like if your sitting home everyday playing your games in 1080p you will notice it....

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# hmmpo0 2006-10-16 23:52
I think alot of people forget that just because someone buys a PS3 doesnt mean they will buy blu ray discs.



The fact is they didnt have an option, the blu ray player was intergrated. If your going to do a whole, who is going to win, argument you have to look at the number of people who bought the PS3 just for the blu ray against the number of HD DVD units and not the millions of gamers who bought the PS3 for the games side of things.

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# Noooo...Guest 2006-10-17 04:52
Vietone:

"The leap between DVD and HD-DVD/Blu-ray is significant.



If you dont have a TV to compare them then dont even try and sound like you know what they look like.



I for one own a LCD 20" Computer monitor and downloaded several movies in 720p and 1080i flavors and they look amazingly better then DVD."





It really isn't that amazing! I have a HDTV and I have Sky HD. The only reason I have Sky HD is because I got a stupidly good deal where I only paid £100 for the box and nothing else, not even the subscription. So I know what HD images look like compared to SD.



The leap is NOT so amazing that I want to go out and buy all of my 300+ DVD collection again on a higher res format. I'm not even that fussed about buying new DVD's on either HD DVD or Blu Ray! I don't care! Don't get me wrong, I love my films, but honestly don't think the leap is very significant!



Eventually, (i'm talkin years time) I might come round to the idea, but at the minute I am perfectly happy with what I have.

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# HmmmGuest 2006-10-17 05:07
In terms of HD DVD vs. Blu Ray, I think HD DVD will win if they market it right!



...You can play HD DVD's on standard definition DVD players!



Obviously, they won't be in HD, but this means you can play the films in pretty much any household whether they have a HDTV or not! So for people reluctant to make the transition, this is perfect!



Most households have more than one DVD player in them now, and it is going to cost alot to replace each one! Now if you had a player that could play all of your old DVD's and HD-DVD's, as well as older DVD players can can play the HD-DVD's (but not on high def), it is by far the more sensible format to choose!



Blu Ray will most likely be another format flop (which Sony so far, has had a good streek in).

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# wrongGuest 2006-10-18 01:15
wrong the p0rn world will decided the same people that decided vhs and the other format i forget u will see

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# betamaxmbslrm 2006-10-18 09:19
I thin the format you are talking about is betamax. And yeah, the p0rn world does decide what format to use, as it has done in the past. And, from what I've heard, they have pledged to support BD.



BD FTW!!!

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