Paramount, Dreamworks go over the fence to HD DVD |
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And so the glass ceiling breaks. Just when everybody thought that Blu-Ray has finally won over the battle, a bomb drops in the form of two of biggest producers and distributors of filmed entertainment, Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation. The two major outfits have announced today that they will be supporting the HD DVD format - exclusively.From their press release circulating the internet, they revealed that the decision "resulted from an extensive evaluation of current market offerings, which confirmed the clear benefits of HD DVD, particularly its market-ready technology and lower manufacturing costs." Titles like "Blades of Glory", "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third" will be debuting in your home entertainment centers very soon via HD DVD.
Chairman and CEO of Paramount Pictures, Brad Grey, expounds on their decision:
The combination of Paramount and DreamWorks Animation brings a critical mass of current box office hits to consumers with a line-up of live action and animated films that are perfect for HD DVD... Part of our vision is to aggressively extend our movies beyond the theater, and deliver the quality and features that appeal to our audience. I believe HD DVD is not only the affordable high quality choice for consumers, but also the smart choice for Paramount.
The only exception to this whole exclusivity deal would be those films directed by Steven Spielberg. The renowned director's works are not exclusive to either the HD DVD or Blu-ray. Expect Paramount to send out new release day and dates, and catalog titles for your HD DVD viewing pleasure in the coming days.
It looks like the fight isn't over, then. Bring it on! (It's already been buhrought!)
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Umm, this is good seeing as how I love when Sony gets shot down. "Blu ray has already won"...right.....just like Betamax and UMD :p.
anyway though, why is this in the 360 section? If anything this should be in the Ps3 section as its a mandatory blu ray player, and 360 owners have a choice. You need a media.qj.net or something.
i was starting to think that hd dvd was going to die... looks like not for now. Sony is more expensive, i think that's why they might lose...
All major studios are backing Blu Ray except Universal, and now Paramount decide to go HD-DVD? Something seems odd, it's like they want this war to carry on as it means more money spent on films over all. It's unfair that studios are being exclusive, this is films we're talking about not petty games. Unless all companies support one or go Multi, HD is going to be in Trouble.
wow, history really does repeat itself. Back in the day (i know most of you are too young to remember, but) betamax actually had most of the studios. But after a while they started losing them due to the high production costs of bm compared to vhs. And of course, once the adult film industry realized they could sell more using vhs over betamax, they made the switch and cause the whole deck of cards to come tumbling down for betamax.
this is almost the exact same situation. if we see more studios hop over to HD, Bluray could be in some serious trouble in the near future.
im not supporting hddvd or bluray since dvds are cheaper than both and im not THAT big of a movie fan. but considering almost all of sonys formats have failed, im pretty sure this one will be no different. they just need to stop trying to push new formats for all their products and just concentrate on today.
looks like no HD Transformers for PS3 people...
vhs cheaper than beta
xD, SD, MMC, cheaper than those pro duo
umd well, i cant compare nothing to that but its expensive
if one format win, their dvd sale decline as time pass.
moving over to another format when that format seems to have won is to prolong dvd sales.
a move to hd-dvd means dvd can survive that much longer like from its suppose period.
don't you see?!?! there was a 360 robot on transformers but no ps3 one!!!!!
lol
Why do people do this. Why go against whats inevitable. All its doing is keeping both formats expensive by keeping this little war going. No super mass producing untill this crap is over.
well that might be true but if this war keep going on like this the whole "HD-Disc" generation will be skipped and it might just jump straight to digital distribution
If this was true they would just stop releases movies in HD formats.
Anyway, corporate greed + every business. The purpose of every business is to make money.
blame sony for this dvd was jointly developed by toshiba and sony and hd-dvd was going to as well but sony got greedy they saw they could use ps3 to possibly win against toshiba with their version of blue laser technology blu-ray
Can anyone else find a reliable source for this information? It just doesn't seem logical to go with the losing format 3:1, and even worse worldwide...
Oh well, pity I wanted Shrek 3, but at least my sanity has been saved from Shia LeBeouf's dreadfull 'acting' in Transformers - Thanks Blu-Ray!
did suck... no sweat off my back.
So stupid, I mean if Blu-ray wins the war then the costs will lower of course. They should've just sticked to Blu-ray and nothing would've gone wrong!
Look at the source.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=170476
Nothing related to this at all. Nice job Mabie, you just made everyone think you're retarted. You get paid to do this and can't even check links? Wow.
Suck on that shiiiitttt sony!!! I will never win!! NEVA!!!!! AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Wouldn't it be funny if the HD-DVD promotion group would come out and say HD-DVD takes the victory, kinda like the blu ray association did with blu ray?
Even though technically I have a blu ray player now there's no movies I would pay $25-$35 for and the blockbastard video by my house doesn't stock any yet.
But like I said before, I don't care too much about the format war, I have HD satellite with recorder.
i haven't posted on any news not on the PS3 section for months now but i do read all the articles... i felt like posting on this one cause this news just saddens me and not because i have a PS3... i'm a huge movie buff, i barely watch local or cable tv and just watch my collection of movies which is quite big, i watch movies over and over and over... i've got two walk-in closets just for my movie collection.. and this news just prolongs the resolution to these media war... i would gladly buy an HDDVD player if it wins, no problem about that...
i just want one of the formats to die and since Blu Ray has the lead now i wanted it to go for HDDVDs throat already!!!!
and i quote:
"None of the participants in this deal are willing to openly disclose just how much money was exchanged, but the L.A. Weekly is reporting it was in the neighborhood of $50 million in "promotional considerations" for Paramount and $100 million for DreamWorks. Is anyone else just disgusted by Microsoft's naked, shameless financial influence in this thing? That Hollywood is a greedy place should be obvious to all by now, if it wasn't already. The HD-DVD format can't win any other way than for Microsoft to PAY studios off to stay exclusive."
You make it sound like no other businesses open there wallet to push their product. Sony does the same thing with it's products. Plus the payment made is small considering how much these companies stand to gain for HD movies down the track. Personally I like the format war (damn 'm gonna get flamed for that, lol) because it's forcing prices down quicker. Even if there was one format the players and movies would still be crap anyway. Too expensive. If you want us to use your DRM infested crap atleast make it the same price as DVD, else piss off.
I dont want Bluray to win because of the ps3, I just want to move on to a high def format already and since blueray is in the significant lead it makes sense to go in that direction. Anyone interested in sending a message should look at this link and participate
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t+13878
The console war is one thing I think is good because it brings out the best but a format war only hurts us. We are the consumers and we really do have a collective voice and should use it. on another note I would truly be dissapointed if microsoft had a hand in this. extending this format war hurts their own install base as well. Im not saying sony is innocent of all things but Microsoft has been proven to steal things in the past, begining with windows.
Even if there was one format the players and movies SALES would still be crap anyway.
LMAO SONY GETTING RAPED NOW
it is an industry fact that Microsoft would benefit if the format war isn't resolved soon... the longer it goes the longer the standard will be set... they are paving their way for movie downloads which they are pushing.
Why would Paramount and Dreamworks go with the losing side????
I can see your point Quixand, but would that not be a threat towards microsoft as well since sony is headed in that direction as well?
but i read somewhere (in a couple of articles) that Microsoft wants to delay the format wars as long as possible to cement the full transition to downloads... having a new standard media format will hinder that... saying even that the primary reason why Microsoft backed HDDVD is to delay the format war and that's it... that the gain they will get from hindering a new standard media format will be greater than if either format wins even if it's the HDDVD.
and among all the players in this format war, primarily Toshiba and Sony, it is only Microsoft who would benefit from the delay due to mentioned reasons... the other two companies has a lot riding on this that's why they want to win this war so even if Sony is heading in the direction that Microsoft has already taken (downloads) they can ill afford to lose out to HDDVD.
i'm actually trying to look for the link for the article on this... i'll put it on here when i find one.
if the components of hd-dvd are lower priced than the bluray ones at this time, imagine how much lower wil it be in the future. I mean, you can get a hd-dvd player for 200 bucks, there is even a 100 dollar player planned but the cheapest blu-ray player costs 400-450 bucks. if they both can handle a 1080p picture... do you really care about 15 gig extra?
This is great news for HD DVD after being outsold by Blu Ray 2:1 all year. With potential exclusives such as Transformers and Shrek the Third, HD may close the gap over the holiday season.
I believe the deciding factor in the format 'war' will be when one of the current exclusive supporters goes neutral. If Fox and/or Disney go neutral it will be a massive blow for Blu Ray, if Universal goes neutral it will be almost over for HD DVD.
and your point is?
Blu-ray HD DVD
Columbia Pictures(1), MGM (1,3)Yes No
Disney Yes No
Dreamworks (4) No Yes
HBO Yes Yes
First Look Studios No Yes
Fox (3) Yes No
Image Entertainment Yes Yes
Lionsgate Yes No
Magnolia Pictures Yes Yes
New Line Cinema Yes Yes
Paramount (2) No Yes
Porn Studios (7) Yes Yes
Studio Canal Yes Yes
Universal Studios (5) No Yes
Warner Bros. (6) Yes Yes
Weinstein Company/Dimension No Yes
for pasting a table on a QJ post.
The amount of bluray players compared to hd-dvd is like 5 to 1. Going with HD-DVD is a waste of time. So now HD-DVD has 3 companies and Bluray has like 40.
Lol
Did you read the stuff coming from Blu Ray in the Ps3 section, even though they lost 2 major film studios, they other content coming to Blu Ray and the current lead just makes it seem even stupider for Para and Dreamworks to go to HD DVD side.
if I would be paramount/dreamworks i would do it like this.
Get 50 to 100 mill from M$ or Toshiba or whoever paid it. Make a big announcement and some advertiesement (rough costs of about 10 mill). And after 2-3 months, I would declare HD DVD as failed and jump back to BD.
They never made an easy 40 mill like that before...
This whole format war is stupid. (I just read that Fox and MGM just re-affirmed their backing of Blu-ray.)
If you look at the specs of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD, they are highly similar. If you're trying to determine which of the formats is better based on just specs, then Blu-ray edges out HD-DVD. And if the difference in manufacturing costs is minimal, then why not go with Blu-ray?
I also agree with Quixand. Microsoft seems to want to phase out the sale of physical media (for each content that you purchase). However, I think most consumers still prefer something they can hold on to, if not, have the ability to make a back up copy.
Another thing I don't understand is why they are trying to force a new format right now. It's too early in my opinion. Its true that a new format is needed if you want to store "next-gen" content on a physical media, but when you look at it, its the sale of music and movies, not games, that push a new format.
Yes, movies also have "next-gen", with the appearance of 1080p and the like, but how many of you are satisfied with DVD quality? Sure, High Definition looks pretty damn sweet, but I think most of you will agree with me when I say that most consumers are ok with regular DVD's.
I, personally, was hoping that companies would wait for even more promising formats like HVD (Holographic Versatile Disc) to be completed and come down in price. With promised capacities into the Terabyte range and transfer rates of 1 gigabit/sec (125 megabyte/sec), that just can't be beat. (Although I would be deathly afraid to lose, or break a disc with that much info on it.)
As for this war, I believe Sony went the right route in including the Blu-ray drive in the PS3. Once the sales of PS3 pick up (and I have no doubt that it will), HD-DVD should watch out, because a steady flow of PS3's with Blu-ray moving into households would spell trouble for them.
As for this war, I believe Sony went the right route in including the Blu-ray drive in the PS3. Once the sales of PS3 pick up (and I have no doubt that it will)
The PS3 has almost exactly the same sales figures as the 360. With the difference, PS3 has competition and the 360 had none.
I think there are 3 main reasons HD movie players aren't taking off.
1. Prices are still too high for players and movies.
2. The format war has many people on the fence and many movies aren't available in both formats.
3. DVD just came out around 7 years ago and many people aren't ready to upgrade yet. VHS was around for over 20 years before DVD.
As for me I don't care too much either. If a movie I really like comes out I may buy it, but I don't buy many movies anyway. I like DVDs priced $5-$10 myself.
stupidity, why jump over from a large well maintained high capacity cruise ship to a sinking yacht?
bluray prices (production and retail will) be lower once support comes pouring in. these idiot companies are the ones to blame for slow price reductions.
heck why choose format, it is always wiser to support both because your company will profit whichever format the consumer chooses.
and to these companies, i think your market analysts are paid under the table, here in japan there is almost non-existent support for HD-DVD, each and every store in narita (and mostly all over japan) has Bluray layers and movies.
HD-DVD is better, cheaper, faster. And the 360 is a better gaming machine that's easier to program for and its user base is bigger. I wish I didn't buy the PS3.
You're totally lying. It's the reverse, exact opposite of what you said. Blugay is not selling more players at all. Read the news for once!
bluray discs are usually found cheaper than HD-DVDs. even without the DVD/HD-DVD combo discs.
Ur rite about that. Sonys proved very unpopular with their move to seperate from Toshiba. (C'mon Bluray! U can do it!)
im gna look out for more infor later on
Ur a failure as a person
Why are so many PS3 owners posting on a news section that some is about some big film companies are going to HDDVD ? what possible difference does it make to you have you got shares in some film player or something? go out and work for charity or something as you make no sense whatsoever posting here on this news section about a media format ....
"blockbastard"
LOL. Nice play on words, if not too imaginative. I have a Blockbuster MoviePass. The only reason I have that is because I do see a large number of movies per month and would like to pay a constant amount for that rather than something that varies. Also, with Online renting (like Blockbuster Online or Netflix), you might not get the movies exactly when you need them, like say Friday or Saturday.
By the way, the nearest Blockbuster that keeps Blu-rays is nearly 45 minutes away, and I don't want to go that far for a movie, however hi-def it might be. I do buy Blu-rays though (have to keep my purchases within reason though, what with a kid on the way :)), but I shop around (online and in-stores) and usually am able to get all my Blu-rays from between 20-25 dollars, tax included.
Derdude you and your 360 figures LOL, go look at the chart the Wii and the 360 are close on around 11 million a piece(Before 360 price cuts) but the PS3 is a lowly 3 .4 million worldwide (AFTER their price cuts).....
"I like DVDs priced $5-$10 myself."
That's the price range I wish for as well - almost never happens though. And I like movies (and TV shows like Monk, Simpsons, Futurama, 24, etc) a bit too much to hold off until they fall THAT much in price.
How did this get started about the console wars when this is about the format wars, and fanboy stuff aside, it obvious that Blu Ray is better than HD DVD.
The weird fact is that Paramount has earned more money from their Blu-ray releases than their HD-DVD releases
On the other hand, it may be said (with just as much merit) that 360 (and HD-DVD supporters) posters are just as viral on any non-360 (or non-HD-DVD) related news and articles.
I won't say that I'm head over heels for HD-DVD just because I own a 360. As a matter of fact, but the fact is that when you really look at it, neither Sony nor Microsoft are about to back out of studio support. Think about it. How much money does Microsoft make to have nearly every PC manufacturer support XP or Vista. It's a big circle effect. Microsoft tells PC makers to build its computers for Windows and they'll make sure that 2nd and 3rd party software makers support Windows OS which means they must buy one of their PC's.
It's the same with the format wars. Sony has a lot hedging on Blu-Ray. After all, if you developed a new media format and decided to put it into EVERY game console you made, you'd want it to win too, wouldn't you? I'd have to be a complete fool to believe that Sony isn't paying studios or giving them incentives to back Blu-Ray. Hell, I would. Plus, Sony has an extra measure of clout that Microsoft doesn't have. Microsoft doesnt own any film studios, whereas Sony has Sony Pictures, Columbia and Tri-Star. Already Sony has a 3 studio lead.
It truly is all about money. Everyone's trying to prove that their technology is best but at the moment, I do not see the consumer benefitting from it. If you like movies, why should you be forced to pick sides? You're the one in the stores paying for it.
As far as disc superiority, Blu-Ray holds more, but it costs less to make an HD-DVD. So there's the profit margin issue again.
My advice? Keep dvd's for now and use an upconverting processor on a good HD monitor/TV with 5.1 surround and let Sony and Microsoft sweat it out without making any profits. When these companies realize the futility of denying the consumer a quality unified format (Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, I really don't care which...) they'll straighten up very quickly or lose the hundreds of millions they've invested in digital media's biggest argument.
blu-ray discs are much cheaper than hd-dvd if you'll work out gigabytes' per 1 $
as are the consoles, but i have a ps3 so i win hehehehehehe