Umm, this is good seeing as how I love when Sony gets shot down. "Blu ray has already won"...right.....just like Betamax and UMD :p.



anyway though, why is this in the 360 section? If anything this should be in the Ps3 section as its a mandatory blu ray player, and 360 owners have a choice. You need a media.qj.net or something.

All major studios are backing Blu Ray except Universal, and now Paramount decide to go HD-DVD? Something seems odd, it's like they want this war to carry on as it means more money spent on films over all. It's unfair that studios are being exclusive, this is films we're talking about not petty games. Unless all companies support one or go Multi, HD is going to be in Trouble.

if one format win, their dvd sale decline as time pass.

moving over to another format when that format seems to have won is to prolong dvd sales.

a move to hd-dvd means dvd can survive that much longer like from its suppose period.

Why do people do this. Why go against whats inevitable. All its doing is keeping both formats expensive by keeping this little war going. No super mass producing untill this crap is over.

If this was true they would just stop releases movies in HD formats.



Anyway, corporate greed + every business. The purpose of every business is to make money.

Can anyone else find a reliable source for this information? It just doesn't seem logical to go with the losing format 3:1, and even worse worldwide...

did suck... no sweat off my back.

Look at the source.



http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=170476



Nothing related to this at all. Nice job Mabie, you just made everyone think you're retarted. You get paid to do this and can't even check links? Wow.

You make it sound like no other businesses open there wallet to push their product. Sony does the same thing with it's products. Plus the payment made is small considering how much these companies stand to gain for HD movies down the track. Personally I like the format war (damn 'm gonna get flamed for that, lol) because it's forcing prices down quicker. Even if there was one format the players and movies would still be crap anyway. Too expensive. If you want us to use your DRM infested crap atleast make it the same price as DVD, else piss off.

Even if there was one format the players and movies SALES would still be crap anyway.

I can see your point Quixand, but would that not be a threat towards microsoft as well since sony is headed in that direction as well?

if the components of hd-dvd are lower priced than the bluray ones at this time, imagine how much lower wil it be in the future. I mean, you can get a hd-dvd player for 200 bucks, there is even a 100 dollar player planned but the cheapest blu-ray player costs 400-450 bucks. if they both can handle a 1080p picture... do you really care about 15 gig extra?

and your point is?

Did you read the stuff coming from Blu Ray in the Ps3 section, even though they lost 2 major film studios, they other content coming to Blu Ray and the current lead just makes it seem even stupider for Para and Dreamworks to go to HD DVD side.

This whole format war is stupid. (I just read that Fox and MGM just re-affirmed their backing of Blu-ray.)



If you look at the specs of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD, they are highly similar. If you're trying to determine which of the formats is better based on just specs, then Blu-ray edges out HD-DVD. And if the difference in manufacturing costs is minimal, then why not go with Blu-ray?



I also agree with Quixand. Microsoft seems to want to phase out the sale of physical media (for each content that you purchase). However, I think most consumers still prefer something they can hold on to, if not, have the ability to make a back up copy.



Another thing I don't understand is why they are trying to force a new format right now. It's too early in my opinion. Its true that a new format is needed if you want to store "next-gen" content on a physical media, but when you look at it, its the sale of music and movies, not games, that push a new format.



Yes, movies also have "next-gen", with the appearance of 1080p and the like, but how many of you are satisfied with DVD quality? Sure, High Definition looks pretty damn sweet, but I think most of you will agree with me when I say that most consumers are ok with regular DVD's.



I, personally, was hoping that companies would wait for even more promising formats like HVD (Holographic Versatile Disc) to be completed and come down in price. With promised capacities into the Terabyte range and transfer rates of 1 gigabit/sec (125 megabyte/sec), that just can't be beat. (Although I would be deathly afraid to lose, or break a disc with that much info on it.)



As for this war, I believe Sony went the right route in including the Blu-ray drive in the PS3. Once the sales of PS3 pick up (and I have no doubt that it will), HD-DVD should watch out, because a steady flow of PS3's with Blu-ray moving into households would spell trouble for them.

stupidity, why jump over from a large well maintained high capacity cruise ship to a sinking yacht?

bluray prices (production and retail will) be lower once support comes pouring in. these idiot companies are the ones to blame for slow price reductions.

heck why choose format, it is always wiser to support both because your company will profit whichever format the consumer chooses.

and to these companies, i think your market analysts are paid under the table, here in japan there is almost non-existent support for HD-DVD, each and every store in narita (and mostly all over japan) has Bluray layers and movies.

You're totally lying. It's the reverse, exact opposite of what you said. Blugay is not selling more players at all. Read the news for once!

"blockbastard"



LOL. Nice play on words, if not too imaginative. I have a Blockbuster MoviePass. The only reason I have that is because I do see a large number of movies per month and would like to pay a constant amount for that rather than something that varies. Also, with Online renting (like Blockbuster Online or Netflix), you might not get the movies exactly when you need them, like say Friday or Saturday.



By the way, the nearest Blockbuster that keeps Blu-rays is nearly 45 minutes away, and I don't want to go that far for a movie, however hi-def it might be. I do buy Blu-rays though (have to keep my purchases within reason though, what with a kid on the way :)), but I shop around (online and in-stores) and usually am able to get all my Blu-rays from between 20-25 dollars, tax included.

"I like DVDs priced $5-$10 myself."

That's the price range I wish for as well - almost never happens though. And I like movies (and TV shows like Monk, Simpsons, Futurama, 24, etc) a bit too much to hold off until they fall THAT much in price.

I won't say that I'm head over heels for HD-DVD just because I own a 360. As a matter of fact, but the fact is that when you really look at it, neither Sony nor Microsoft are about to back out of studio support. Think about it. How much money does Microsoft make to have nearly every PC manufacturer support XP or Vista. It's a big circle effect. Microsoft tells PC makers to build its computers for Windows and they'll make sure that 2nd and 3rd party software makers support Windows OS which means they must buy one of their PC's.



It's the same with the format wars. Sony has a lot hedging on Blu-Ray. After all, if you developed a new media format and decided to put it into EVERY game console you made, you'd want it to win too, wouldn't you? I'd have to be a complete fool to believe that Sony isn't paying studios or giving them incentives to back Blu-Ray. Hell, I would. Plus, Sony has an extra measure of clout that Microsoft doesn't have. Microsoft doesnt own any film studios, whereas Sony has Sony Pictures, Columbia and Tri-Star. Already Sony has a 3 studio lead.



It truly is all about money. Everyone's trying to prove that their technology is best but at the moment, I do not see the consumer benefitting from it. If you like movies, why should you be forced to pick sides? You're the one in the stores paying for it.



As far as disc superiority, Blu-Ray holds more, but it costs less to make an HD-DVD. So there's the profit margin issue again.



My advice? Keep dvd's for now and use an upconverting processor on a good HD monitor/TV with 5.1 surround and let Sony and Microsoft sweat it out without making any profits. When these companies realize the futility of denying the consumer a quality unified format (Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, I really don't care which...) they'll straighten up very quickly or lose the hundreds of millions they've invested in digital media's biggest argument.

as are the consoles, but i have a ps3 so i win hehehehehehe