Each side claims that they Win.Which should we take for granted????Its getting funny.



p.S Zomg FIRST!!

This means nothing because think about it. If I'm a non-gamer and I want a Blu-ray player, I'd buy the Ps3 because I get a cheap blu-ray player and other stuff with it. Why would I buy a blu-ray player with nothing extra for the same price or more?



This is like saying "Microsoft is selling more MP3 players than Apple if you don't count the iPod".

Lol I just noticed they are NOT counting the PS3 in those stats...Quite a way to make an impression and a FIXED statistic.Hiding the tested group in the small letters....



So in the same logic its safe to suggest that Linux is the most used operating system in the world...([TinyLetters\] We are not counting ms products[/TinyLetters]

Still saying the same ol crap. Face it HD-DVD got pwnd. U can't NOT count ps3 as a bluray, it being marketed for bluray amongst other things. They just bitter.

HD-DVD already CONFESSED that they purposely left out the PS3 when reporting the same garbage in the US!!!!



As soon as they added the PS3 to their figures they realized they were losing miserably!!!!



"stand-alone HD-DVD players are outselling Sony's Blu-ray players"



DUH!!!



Now add the PS3 to the equation and what do we find?



"Blu-ray discs are still outselling HD-DVDs"



Why? Because there are WAY MORE Blu-ray players then HD-DVD players.



At least they added the truth this time:



"The numbers included all current HD-DVD players stacked up against players outside of the Sony PlayStation 3 console"



HD-DVD is going downhill fast!

HD-DVD's are getting depressing

I wonder what happens when everyone finally drops the formats

And when I say everyone i actually mean the only 2 companies still using it

against the 20 or so blu ray companies (excluding the adult entertainment industry)

People are going to be using these as frisbies just like the AOL cd's

here in norway, every music/dvd/games store have a small HD movie section, and you can see alot more BR flims than HDDVDs. just today i saw like 25 BR films compared to 2 HDDVD film covers at the bottom corner...

personally i think theyre far too expensive :( costing twice as much as a dvd and almost all of em doesnt even have extras like they do on DVDs

Hi,



Even though this race is not over yet, I do agree that the future does not look particularly bright for HD-DVDs.



Just one example: Here in Chicago, IL, where I live, my local Walmart has both Blu-Rays and HD-DVDs. The number of HD-DVDs has been constant at around 12 for the past several weeks, while the number of Blu-rays has been steadily increasing (currently it's 25 movies). Both formats started around roughly the same number, however the Blu-ray section has been increasing in shelf-size, while HD-DVD has been about constant.



I've noticed that Circuit City also seems to be favouring Blu-ray movies, TV series and musical programs over HD-DVDs, in the way they are placed and while getting new movies as well, while Best Buy seems to be getting all movies available on both formats yet.



Regards,

MTK

Hi AoxomamoxoA,



A touch of FUD there? When I bought my PS3, I didn't buy it just because it was a next-gen console. The fact that I was getting a next-gen format HD Player in addition to a next-gen Console (not including all the other goodies, like Wi-Fi, the Card slots, HDMI, etc) was one of the primary reasons that I bought a PS3 (and it isn't as if this is all I have - I have a 360 as well, so forget the bias or fanboy angle if you are going to use that to reply).



And you like to say Sony doesn't have any games: that's not strictly true, you know. All multiplatform games are not being released ONLY on the 360, they are being released on the PS3 as well. I see several games when I go to my local Walmart or Best Buy. Sure not all of them may be superlative games, but then not all the games on the 360 are world-class games either. The fact remains that if you want to play only on the PS3, you are not starved of choice.



And since Blu-ray movies are at the most 5 (or maximum 10) dollars more than a DVD, for myself, I would rather get a Blu-ray movie than a DVD. Hell, sometimes Walmart even sells them for less than maximum on the day they are released (as I'm sure you've noticed for DVDs if you are from the US).



Bottomline, the PS3 is not part of a conspiracy to make the Blu-ray format win. I suspect that is just some FUD on your part. I know nobody likes to think they might be wrong, but in the past you've come up with some balanced arguments as well (even though you are biased towards the 360). That's why I'm telling you (whether you want to listen or not is up to you) that your motives for berating Sony fanatics may not be as pure as you think.



Then again, I might be wrong :). I leave the interpretation up to you.



Regards,

MTK

they say the players sell 3-1 against blu ray , BUT they do not count ps3 bluray player nd most people who want a bluray player buys a ps3 so more bluray players are sold

It's a different story in the UK. you can't say the whole of europe from a few countrys.

In case you didn't figure it out by my name alone, I've had a sex change... well... most of one. I'm hoping to get the ol' twig an berries lopped of here real soon but until then, I'll just keep chugging semen and raggin' on the PS3 that I'm hella jealous of. Though some day I hope to also get a console change... after my broke (pole taking)ass saves up enough cash. Peace Y'all.

ONLY when you calculate attach rates. when you count standalones....PS3s dont exist.



simple as that

Don't forget those free DVD's you get with "The Mail on Sunday"

Thats just silly... why not exclude all blu-ray players that are black while youre at it? That should get you to 10 to 1.

My players are outselling the competition 3-1..



My tie ratio is 6.0 versus the competitions 1.2..



Simple math tell us I should be outselling the competition almost 15 to 1..



Everyone knows nobody buys movies for the PS3..



So how come they are beating me 3-1 in movie sales??

HD-DVD owners won't throw out their machines for Blu-Ray, they'll purchase a Blu-Ray player to playthe many movie that they can't get in their format and HD-DVD will fade away... just like DVD vs. DIVX players.