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Flash storage to win over HD-DVD and Blu-ray?

Posted Jan 14, 2007 at 7:24PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Bill Gates, Flash Memory, gaming accessories
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Optical mediaHere's even more from Bill Gates on the console war. Apparently, he thinks that in the end HD-DVD and Blu-ray may not even "count" since they represent the last generation of optical media.

In an interview over at The Daily Princetonian, he said: "For us it's not the physical format. Understand that this is the last physical format there will ever be. Everything's going to be streamed directly or on a hard disk. So, in this way, it's even unclear how much this one counts."

Writer Theo Valich, thinks that while many other people have overlooked that statement made by Bill Gates, he believes that Bill is pretty much on target.

He predicts that the technology that will win the optical standards war isn't even an optical standard. He believes that flash memory, with its falling prices and its ever increasing capacity will win in the end. He also adds that the trend today is that consumers are willing to sacrifice quality for mobility.

Of course Bill Gates doesn't miss the opportunity in the Princetonian to decry the Blu-ray format, but you can't really blame him for that. It's sorta his job.

It's not the physical format that we have the issue with, it's that the protection scheme on Blu is very anti-consumer. If [the Blu-ray group] would fix that one thing, you know, that'd be fine.


Well guys, what do you think? Blu-ray, HD-DVD, some hybrid format, or flash storage?

Via DailyPrincetonian



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# well..Guest 2007-01-14 20:47
The pr0n industry choose HD-DVD, so thats gonna "win". Because frankly almost everyone watches pr0n sometime, and HD is just amazing with its quality, hence pr0n + HD = luxury pr0n. ppl wont be able to resist! *lol*



Also that HD-DVD uses a much more modern and frankly just simply BETTER compression technique than Bluray, the HD-DVD has better quality, but smaller size. But however you look at it a full length movie in superb HD resolution will ALWAYS fit on an HD-DVD, the only thing that the Bluray can bring is more deleted scenes and *****. And frankly, i for one care more about the actual movie than watching some more 400x300 crappy deleted scene cutout..

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# Getting a little ahead of himself...Guest 2007-01-14 20:49
Yeah, I doubt he really knows what he's talking about; I mean a blu-ray disc cost's very little to make. How long till a small, cheap portable 25GB, 50GB+ capacity flash media comes along? (hint: not soon enough to affect blu-ray or HD-DVD)

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# uh... no...Guest 2007-01-14 20:58
The only reason porn helped VHS was because it was basically the only easy way you could get porn videos back then. Now you can get porn on VHS, DVD, and on the internet. All easier and cheaper to get than on HD-DVD. I'm not saying having porn won't help HD-DVD, but it won't help it nearly enough as it helped VHS. And it definetly doesn't decide a winner... yet...



Also, blu-ray is capable of the same compression as blu-ray, and it does use the same compression in some cases. The blu-ray assosiation lets movie makers chose between using the VC-1 compression HD-DVD uses (it cost's them more money to use it because of licencing) or just mpeg-4 or mepg-2. These are one of the reasons why blu-ray has more support than HD-DVD. And the point of having more space is have HD deleted scenes and extras (not 400x 300)

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# solutionGuest 2007-01-14 21:03
lets just stop making movies, then our problem would be solved! :)

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# no p0rn?Guest 2007-01-14 21:21
Hmm, is everybody sure that there will be no p0rn on BluRay?

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# Flash based media is years awayVietone 2007-01-14 21:32
For the cost of 1 50GB Blu-ray Disk, you cant even come close to the capacity with flash media.



In 5 years maybe, but even then, its not practical.

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# one more thingSeanRoss 2007-01-14 23:11
"In an interview over at The Daily Princetonian, he said: "For us it's not the physical format. Understand that this is the last physical format there will ever be. Everything's going to be streamed directly or on a hard disk. So, in this way, it's even unclear how much this one counts"



HD-DVD/BluRay is going to be prevalent at one point and time I believe because of the "streamed directly or on a hard disk." part of that quote. I don't think we are going to have DVD based Hard Drives forever right?



Sure they have that new Paper Harddrive format that, that one guy is developing and those Holographic formats being worked on but for the here, now, and very near future, something is going to pull ahead eventually

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# Flash mediaGuest 2007-01-14 23:43
I actually agree with bill gates on this one.. Discs, wether it be blu-ray, HD-DVD, dvd, whatever, are getting old. I can see in the future a sort of a sim card type portable hard drive. and id rather that then stupid ass discs..

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# FARTGuest 2007-01-15 00:21
nobody is really interested in watching the ***** of men ejaculating in 1920x1080

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# stop and thinkGuest 2007-01-15 03:02
how long did it take DVD to become the format everyone buys? quite a few years...



while i don't see flash storage/streaming as being the standard distro formats for atleast 10 yrs, he is correct. this will be the last optical media format.



flash storage is faster and more durable than optical media by default. the problems of size and price will become non-issues over time.

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# BATZGuest 2007-01-15 04:36
well and after that we can throw away all our CD, DVDs and Blu Rays away

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# lolGuest 2007-01-15 06:26
Yeah, Flash Media FTW!!!! Now all I need is for them to release a 2.0 TB SD card for under $100 =)

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# ...Guest 2007-01-15 09:36
well traditional media is already being overtaken in the broadcast industry with the vast majority of high def stations using panasonic's p2 cards (4-16gb arrays of 4 flash memory units in a pcmcia card). flash memory will replace optical media in the home soon. holographic discs will be around for backup, mass storage, etc.



then again what happens in the broadcast industry oftens matters little to the home entertainment industry seeing how up until now we all used beta lol. so who knows...

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# never graduated kindergarden?Guest 2007-01-15 12:00
Are you kidding me? LmaO the market size of the porn industry is no where NEAR that of every other type of movie. When is the last time you seen a porno gross over 500mil? People watch porn to jerk off, not because its full of award winning titles. Even people who buy porn watch more movies than they do porn (and for those who dont, pretty *****ing pathetic). As someone else said, the reason vhs won was because it was the only way to get porn back in the day.

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# Decades awayGuest 2007-01-15 12:30
The day we see movies streaming (stored online, no physical drive needed) and/or downloaded onto flash drives as mainstream is so far off, I will likely be dead before it happens (if it ever does).



You see, I have conducted much research into what people want as far as a medium and more than 70% (on average) want a physical medium to watch/play games on and the rest were mixed between streaming and downloading it all to one physical device drive.



Sure, this will change, but the thing is, by the time 1TB of flash memory is affordable (under 100) we will have had breakthroughs in HDD space and discs such as the holographic storing 300TB's of information or more, for less. So what would be the point? None, besides portability of mass storage the size of your thumb. And don't forget as quality goes up, so will required disk space.



The keyword here is portable, and a dumb thing for Mr. Gates to be saying. People don't want less quality and more portability, otherwise who would give a ***** about DVD? Its all about quality. Thats as *****ing dumb as Lucas saying that all the big movies in the near future will be indie, and big budget will die out.



But without big budget, how are you going to pull off the expensive special effects? You can't, the whole idea of technology expanding creativity in films would have gone down the drain. The two biggest loony bins in the world (so far), lucas and gates.



What people want is a high quality format to display on their 50 inch HiRes screens (if and when they get one), and not something that was compressed for a portable media player, that looks like absolute ***** (worse than VHS) when put on a 50inch HiRes screen. As well as an easy way to take their purchase, and shrink it down to fit on a portable. Not pay for both separately, for the same *****ing price each.

In the end its all about the corporate telling us what we want, but then it stings them in the ass when we dont buy into it. Then again there are the millions of dip*****s who support iTunes and its *****ed up DRM (any DRM for that matter) by buying it because its curently the best thing out there. Which is not true (one of the only smart things gates ever said, "buy the CD, DRM sucks"), there are better ways .... get off your lazy asses and buy the dvd/cd in store, or online for christ sake!



This way you can do whatever you want with it, you purchased it, just don't be a fucwad by duplicating and selling it. Its of much higher quality and with all the free ware easy to use dumbass versions of software out there either built into an OS or available elsewhere, there is no reason to purchase music and movies online. it is just ridiculous.

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# sure, right, whateverGuest 2007-01-15 13:54
sinc mr billy hasn't made a product that makes any money since office, i dont put much stock in anything he says about the future. look at ms's earning statments besides windows and office every single thing else loses money.... . he's the last person i'd follow stock tips on.

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# its almost overGuest 2007-01-16 14:00
porn did chose hd dvd since bluray decide to not have porn on their blurays. A huge advantage for hd dvd. This format war might end sooner than we thought it might. Who knows no one can predict what will happen.

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# Kinda wackGuest 2007-01-17 05:29
i think blue ray will take the cake, due to its space... i would love to pack i few dvd's into one of those, make my collection alot smaller.

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# HVDGuest 2007-01-17 16:48
Neither will win. HVDs will win. HVD = Holographic Versatile Disk. Multiple Terrabytes on one disk.

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