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Blu-ray Not Launching This Summer?

Posted May 26, 2006 at 3:27PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: CES, gaming accessories
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Pioneer BDP_HD!Apparently, two behemoth companies are planning on delaying the release of their respective Blu-ray products. The two companies? Pioneer and Panasonic. The new launch date? After the launch of the Sony PS3.

This tidbit was exposed during the annual High End Trade Fair in Munich, Germany. As Pioneer showed off their Blu-ray disc player, tagged as the BDP-HD1 (left pic), which they announced during the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, some Pioneer officials said that they are looking at November 2006 as a possible launch date. When in November? After the PS3 launch. The people over at Panasonic also said the same thing about their Blu-ray innovation, the DMP-BD10 (right pic).

Panasonic Blu-ray playerThere are other vague reports saying that the Sony BDP-S1 would be arrive by mid-August 2006 and that Sony has started replicating Blu-ray discs in the U.S. Whether the delays over at Pioneer and Panasonic has a connection with the Sony Blu-ray discs-replicating affair, is something that we can only speculate about.

As for the price tags of the said Blu-ray products, the Sony variant will go for roughly USD$1,000 ($999.99 to be exact), the Pioneer one has a reported price tag of USD$1,800, and the Panasonic Blu-ray player will sell for roughly USD$1,500. And how much is the PS3 again?



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# Yeah Phirst Post!iNCREDiPiNOY 2006-05-26 18:19
Who need Blu-Ray Player for ONE Grand if PS3 will be selling HALF of Grand of Standalone BRD Player? People can buy 2 PS3s for the price of 1 BRD Player! Especially for Anti-PS3 will possibly buy an Xbox 360 and a Wii for the price of 1 PS3. Then again, if they buy all 3 consoles (PS3-Xbox 360-Wii), this will be the price for 1 BRD Player! There are 3 possible ways of buying for the price of one. Personally, I rather buy 2 PS3s for the price of 1 BRD Player, so I can play the Games and the other for Movies.

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# Ok...Alastair 2006-05-26 19:02
If all this $1500 player can do is PLAY Blu-Ray then I think that is something the PS3 has going for it.

But is it just me or does the red button on the remote look like a record?

I know PS3 can't do that...

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# yes number 2, it is a record buttonGuest 2006-05-26 19:44
But is it just me or does the red button on the remote look like a record?



...yes, even one of the players has 1 terabyte of recordable hard drive space...

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# Guest 2006-05-26 20:15
I personally bought ps2 because not only did it play games it played dvd's as well. For the price at the time it was a great deal. Same with the PS3. The fact that its a high end gaming console and it plays Blu-ray will push people to buy one instead of a stand alone player.

Alot of people are complaing about the price of PS3. When you look at how much just a stand alone player is I dont see why people still continue to *****. I think its a great deal all things considered.

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# No 2Guest 2006-05-26 20:17
I know PS3 can't do that...



No one knows. Wait for the launch.

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# limitedGuest 2006-05-26 23:26
I no the PS3 is a cheap blu-ray player but chances are that its going to be limited like the PS2 DVD player is.



Wait and see

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# I'm glad..Guest 2006-05-27 02:13
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks this. Most people I talk to have no idea about bluray and very little about the PS3. I have been trying to explain to them that 600 is not alot. Its the most powerful console ever and a bluray player! And then I explain to them that the 360 only uses DVD 9s, and then I show them some of the games like MGS 4, and they all start to think more about what console to get. I have a lot of xbox fan boy at my school and most are not happy with their 360. And some of them that were addicted to Halo 1 and 2 didn't even get a 360.

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# Actually PS3 will have linux and allow homebrew so anything is possibleGuest 2006-05-27 03:09
You can install your own media player in the future so it doesn't matter if it comes with a bad player (I thought the PS2 one was ok)



Oh and the system has firmware upgrades like the PSP. Meaning better software every year.

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# The HD will helphush404 2006-05-27 03:40
With the built in Hard Drive it'll be easy for sony to add additional functionality to the PS3 through updates. I hated the DVD sw upgrade for my PS2! It chewed up 3mb of my memcard.

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# Bluray unwantedGuest 2006-05-27 04:01
The general public dont see the need for bluray.

Its not the same as what happened with dvds and the ps2. (ie vhs tapes were crap quality, and dvd was an already an established standard)



Its not exactly needed for games at the moment either.

That is to say the switch to dvd was because games were coming on 4 cds with the playstation.

Currently no console games even use the full 8.5gigs of a dual layer dvd.

Even the extremely large and great looking game Oblivion only uses about 5 gigs of a single dvd.

If the go over 8.5gigs you can always use another disc



The idea of a cheap Bluray player (or any high definition video player) is daft being its whole point is quality, and consoles arent know for having the best video playback quality.



Im also betting the price of a Bluray player at $1000 or so dollars, its artificially high, they must be making at least 500 or so dollars profit on each unit.

Only videophiles currently are willing to spend a premium on HD video and television, current the general public couldnt give a hoot.

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# .Guest 2006-05-27 04:34
I dont really want a bluray player i just want a console Id prefer it if they just made a console first then a blu ray add on later so i wouldnt have to pay so much. I cant realy see that many people wanting a blu ray player that much yet.

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# bad ideaTomb 2006-05-27 05:50
they should release it as soon as possible so more people get a chance to see it and know about it and talk to other people so more and more people know something better is there.



(#10 and mostly everybody) sure games dont use that much memory at the minute and they have brilliant graphics like you said BUT you never see games that have a MASSIVE level or playing area. just think about GTA with more memory to make a game 2, 3, 4 or 5 times the size that san andreas is! and they could even be bigger than that! sure the graphics wont be a huge step away from current-gen graphics but the gaming will last longer with more to do and discover!

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# 6lansingone 2006-05-27 06:23
remember PS3 has somthing PS2 never had..frimwares thay can update the blu-ray player later on as stand alone players start getting more fetures

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# To #12Guest 2006-05-27 06:50
GTA:SA is about 17 square miles in size.

Theres a new game comming out for the xbox360 thats 390 square miles. Thats over 20 times larger than San Andreas, it is very much possible to get a large game world that looks good out of a single DVD9

More info about that game is here http://www.xboxyde.com/news_3000_11626_2_en.html



I do however agree with you that if Sony want to get this format used they need to release it now and for cheaper than $1000.

Their main competition HD-DVD has been out in the use since mid april and current the player sell for about $500-700

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# blu ray this, blu ray that...Guest 2006-05-27 10:11
OK. from what i know, the blu ray can hold more than the hd-dvd? correct? Sooooo....

anyone ever wonder how much the ps3 games will be??

I can just imagine Sony charging 80 to 100 dollars for games...CAN YOU?!!



do the math...



more storage means more content, more content means more programmers working their asses off..

which leads to more money being demanded...which means more money to pay for the games....

I wanna see how sony pulls this one off...(chuckling)

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# Guest 2006-05-27 11:46
I don't mind the prices, as long as the games are *****ing good. I can see myself getting a Blu-Ray burner, but as for actual movies..I'm quite fine with DVD.

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# blurayGuest 2006-05-27 13:09
yeah buying a ps3 at launch just for bluray doesnt make sense. how many stores will have bluray discs? and they will cost more... and plus you probably could only watch them in your living room because your buddy doesnt have one.





and i could just imagine R* trying to fill up like 50gb of space for a console that wont make up that much of the market... it would be 10x bigger and that means about 5x the cost of production.

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# get it straightGuest 2006-05-27 16:30
people need to quit being like "PS3 is worth it because it has blu ray" that's only relevant if someone was expecting to buy a blu ray player anyway.



say there was a $100,000 rare vase, someone would sell it to you for $5000, sure its 95% cheaper than it should be, but the bottom line is that you are paying $5,000 for a vase that is worthless to you.



thats just to demonstrate the point, just because the blu ray is cheap doesn't mean its worthwhile, blu ray won't look any different than DVD unless you have an amazing 1080P tv, which I doubt 95% of the people even buying a ps3 will have. For the next few years, DVD will be better than blu ray because of accessability, lack of DRM, and price per disc

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# Thank you BGSSThorlord 2006-05-27 16:55
absolutely correct.



sony putting BD in the PS3 is sony's way at making more money.



i like my consoles with no strings attached.

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# LOLGuest 2006-05-27 19:11
Quote:

people need to quit being like "PS3 is worth it because it has blu ray" that's only relevant if someone was expecting to buy a blu ray player anyway.



say there was a $100,000 rare vase, someone would sell it to you for $5000, sure its 95% cheaper than it should be, but the bottom line is that you are paying $5,000 for a vase that is worthless to you.



thats just to demonstrate the point, just because the blu ray is cheap doesn't mean its worthwhile, blu ray won't look any different than DVD unless you have an amazing 1080P tv, which I doubt 95% of the people even buying a ps3 will have. For the next few years, DVD will be better than blu ray because of accessability, lack of DRM, and price per disc



Dude no one is saying it is worth it because of Blu Ray, if you haven't noticed it is people like you who keep saying it is not worth it because of Blu Ray so shut up. PS3 is worth it for many diffren't reasons.

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# B I GUltraDSA 2006-05-28 04:06
Whats up with the size of these players? This is supposed to be the future of HD entertainment and for a grand you get something bigger than an old school VCR and ugly vintage emo looking.

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# do you know what it takes to play these hd videos?comedy 2006-05-28 04:41
these things are necessarily expensive, they have a lot of stuff in them, cpu, ram, hdd (sometimes)... they are considerably powerful computers. the point in selling ps3 with blu ray is that sony can get the hardware out there (which they sell at a loss) in order taht people can start buying the software (on which they make a profit). it's quite simple, from sony's viewpoint.



for the consumer, ok, right now games aren't quite filling dvd-9s but there could be so much on there which isn't already. there are loads of games whose extras are just rubbish... with so much space to spare the bluray discs can feature all sorts.



it's about the FUTURE, game developers will prefer to work with more space than less. the various features of ps3 are either well placed in today's household, wifi, pvr... etc. or they're more forward looking bits like bluray.





yeah 600 dollars is expensive, but i don't shop at iceland, and that's dirt cheap... you know why? they sell crap. you get what you pay for, if you're unwilling to pay then go for the inferior systems or just whinge some more.

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# before...Vecha 2006-05-28 05:00
I'd say the ps3 is a better buy instead of a standalone player I'd want to wait and see how "well" the ps3 can playback blu-ray...if its anything like the dvd player in the ps2, xbox, or 360...then I won't be buying a ps3 for movies..(not saying the ps3 is *****ty...but I'm going to have my hopes up for games not...movies...)

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# Guest 2006-05-28 05:33
Competing movie formats was always a stupidass idea. The only things that are going to be re-released are going to be *****ty new movies, *****ty new tv shows, and classics ruined by choppy "remastering". An assload of money for that? I'm sure the games will look *****ing amazing, though.

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# kids, PS3 is not for you.Guest 2006-05-28 05:40
vecha: with CELL and RSX plus the firm upgrades in future PS3 is one very fine BD player even though you the BD rom speed is 2x. However, you only need 1.5 to for movie play back.



people, don't get PS3 if your wallet is not deep enough kids, there is alway x2 on the shelf for you to get.



And which idiot said you need 1080p TV to see the difference? PS3 is definitely not for you since you don't even know what you are buying.



beside there will be 50g space for gaming(and they are making 4 layers as well).



and please, don't ever try to prove the "more space is better" theory wrong.

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# Guest 2006-05-28 05:47
Rofl, not making the same mistake twice. All of Sony's consoles + PSP have ***** games with very few exceptions. Only now it's ***** games with 30 free GB.

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# sony has it under controlGuest 2006-05-28 11:02
sony isn't worried about the blu ray not being a success they have it in the bag. if they were so worried that the release of blu ray wouldn't be a good idea they wouldn't of made it. I know that sounds crazy but its true!!!

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# to #10Guest 2006-05-29 06:44
blueray has won the format war, all you need to do is look at the movie industry, they decide what you buy! Also who ever wrote that PS3 games wiill be expensive if SONY uses Blueray is smoking crack, people said the same things about DVD.

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# move industryGuest 2006-05-29 17:40
"blueray has won the format war, all you need to do is look at the movie industry, they decide what you buy! "



the movie industry looks pretty much split. so that's no help. I think most will support both till there is a winner, they are not dumb...

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